Article 1631 of misc.activism.progressive:From: pioneer.arc.nasa.gov!cscott@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Charles Scott ACF)Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressiveSubject: Aids Plan?Message-ID: <1991Dec5.000845.15614@pencil.cs.missouri.edu>Date: 5 Dec 91 00:08:45 GMTSender: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)Followup-To: alt.activism.dOrganization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035Lines: 69Approved: map@pencil.cs.missouri.eduThis is transcribed from a hearing in 1969 for thefiscal year of 1970 between Congressman Sikes, Floridaand Dr MacArthur, micro-biologist.For reference, see: HEARINGS before a SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS FIRST SESSIONThe topic is Syn thetic Biological Agents There are two things about the biological agent field I would liketo mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecularbiology is a field that is advancing very rapidly, and eminent biologistsbelieve tha t within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturallyexist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired. Mr. Sikes. Are we doing any work in that field? Dr. MacArthur. We are not. Mr. Sikes. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest? Dr. MacArthur. Certainly not lack of interest. Mr. Sikes. Would you provide for our records information on whatwould be required, what the advantages of such a pr ogram would be,the time and the cost involved? Dr. MacArthur. We will be very happy to. (The information follows:) The dramatic progress being made in the field of molecular biology led us toinvestigate the relevance of this field of science to biological warfare. A small group of experts considered this matter and provided the following obser-vations: 1. All biological agents up to the present time are representatives of naturallyoccurring disease, and are thus known by scientists throu ghout the world. Theyare easily available to qualified scientists for research, either for offensive ordefensive purposes. 2. Within the next 5 to 10 years, it would probably be possible to make a newinfective microorganism which could differ in c ertain important aspects fromany known disease-causing organisius. Most important of these is that it mightbe refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which wedepend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease. 3. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completedapproximately 5 years at a total cost of $10 million. 4. It would be very difficult to establish such a program. Molecular biologyis a relatively new science. There are not many highly competent scientists in thefield, almost all are in university laboratories, and they are generally adequatelysupported from sources other than DOD. However, it was considered possibleto initiate an adequate program through the National Academy of Sciences-National Research Council (NAS-NRC). The matter was discussed with the NAS-NRC, and tentative plans were madeto initiate the program. However, decreasing funds in CB, growing criticismof the CB program, and our reluctance to in volve the NAS-NRC, in such a con-troversial endeavor have led us to postpone it for the past 2 years. It is highly controversial issue, and there are many who believe suchresearch should not be undertaken lest it lead to yet another method of massiv ekilling of large populations. On the other hand, without the sure scientificknowledge that such a weapon is possible, and an understanding of the ways itcould be done, there is little that can be done to devise defensive measures.Should an enemy de velop it here is little doubt that this is an important areaof potential military technological inferiority in which there is no adequateresearch program.