To: Jym Fox Message #: 21872 From: Don Allen Submitted: 05 Jun 91 00:55:00 Subject: Cooper -Part 1 Status: Public Received: No Group: UFO (25) The following text is what started the "ball" rolling when Timmy Bennett posted to the Fido UFO a letter from Bill Cooper off of his CAJI BBS. It's being re-posted here in it's *entirety*, headers and all. YOU be the judge of Milton William Cooper :-) This is PART 1 of 5 parts: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Message #8941 - UFO Date : 20-May-90 20:47 From : T.S. Bennett To : All Subject : Cooper answers Corbin/Knapp OPEN LETTER by Bill Cooper- TO MIKE CORBIN, GEORGE KNAPP, BILL MOORE, AND JOHN LEAR. I have been expecting the government to launch an attack designed to discredit me for 2 years and I have publicly stated that I expected this to happen. It has finally happened and what a relief. The governments cannon only went ....POOF.... It seems that all the buzzards except Moore and Friedman have gathered in Las Vegas. How convenient can it be? Mike Corbin, the all mighty high dictator of Paranet, has just this week posted a crippled and weak attack leveled against me by himself and George Knapp, Lear's man in television and the only journalist alive who would go out on a limb to support the phony story of Bob Lazar. As usual Mike Corbin and George Knapp did not bother to do any checking whatsoever to see if their ranting and raving could hold any water. Of course that is the usual policy of paranet and it is expected. It is not the policy of journalists, however, and George Knapp should have checked with me. If he was afraid to call me he could have just called my board and checked the facts for himself. It is George Knapp who wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass and it is Lazar and Lear who are liars and frauds. The Lazar story was reported to CAJI by a source in Las Vegas who stated that "Lazar had been arrested". The source was a man named Cory, a close friend of John Lear. Did he do it to set me up? I posted it in the newsletter. I then asked a member of CAJI to check the story for me and report the "facts". This was done and the story in the newsletter was changed to read that "Lazar was accused" only a few hours later and that is the way the story has been posted ever since as you can see since it is still posted. The members of this board can attest to that. Another source verified the story and all 3 mentioned that Bob Lazar has been accused of running a drug lab. Since these 3 people stated that Lazar was accused of running a drug lab I included it in the story. Since they stand by their statement I stand by the story. I wish to make it known at this point that John Lear told me that Lazar had a speed lab somewhere. Since I knew he had a jet car I thought he mean't something to do with the car. I did not make the REAL connection with that statement until Cory and others phoned the story to me. Two other people have stated to me that Lear told them that Lazar had a drug lab. I knew about the prostitution involvement a long time ago when at Lear's home I witnessed Lear, drunk as a skunk, call Lazar and ask him to send a hooker over. Lear asked us if we wanted a hooker. I told him not no, but hell no. The others present also declined. About an hour later a hooker showed up and lear and the girl disappeared for a while and then they came back. I did not see what transpired between them. There were 4 other people present besides me. She bummed cigarettes off of everone and chain smoked them until there were no more left among us and then she pulled out her own pack. John Lear paid her a wad of money and she left. All of us present were angry and embarrassed by Lear's behavior. Lazar sent her over and we all heard Lear make the call. Lazar and Lear are the end of George Knapp's career unless Knapp gets wise real fast and I mean real fast. I'm not the only one ready to spill the beans on Lazar and Lear. Message #8942 - UFO Date : 20-May-90 20:48 From : T.S. Bennett To : All Subject : Cooper answers Corbin/Knapp contd. Replies : -> #8943 You had better believe that I would never post this story if there had not been 4 other witnesses. Lear and Knapp have left me no choice. I have many more tales to tell and will not hesitate if I am forced to do it. I told Lear a long time ago (June 1989 to be exact) that he was safe as long as he didn't try to get any wilder with his story or try to mess with me. At that time I believed that he was doing more good than harm even though I knew he was Condor and was CIA all the way. That same weekend I was forced to remove a loaded, cocked, 45 cal. automatic pistol from Lear's possession after he placed it against his temple and threatened suicide. I did it once in the morning when we were alone and again the same evening in front of 5 others who witnessed the event. John pretended to be despondent because he was to much of a coward to sign his name to the "INDICTMENT" that I sent to Congress. I was not afraid John would kill himself. I was afraid he would kill me or someone else during the course of his ACT and it was an act. A stupid act and nothing else. I was not fooled but I kept the pistol for several days and still have the round that I removed from the chamber. I will name the witnesses if it becomes necessary. In case you have not learned anything yet let me assure you that you had better not screw around with me unless you are willing to go all the way to the wall and beyond because I'm ready to die to get to the bottom of this and force the truth out of the government. The preponderance of government agents involved in this and the fact that everything that I saw, and only what I saw, leaked, makes me believe that the technology is real (saw a craft with my own eyes) but aliens may be a complete fantasy. Aliens may be needed to create a new world order. No more Soviet enemy? Here is a threat from outer space. I feel used. I am very angry. I saw exactly what I said and more. Not only that but they have taken great pains to make sure I could see the same documents again just recently. Either the information I saw is absolutely correct or the government (with the help of Moore, Lear, Doty, Lazar, Friedman, Shandera, etc.) has created the greatest hoax in history in order to bring down national boundarys and ring in a one world government. I have uncovered the fact that an inventor made a saucer that flew in the 50's without alien help. I still believe that the information I saw between 1970 and 1973 is correct but I am now open to the possibility that I may have been used. I assure you that I will not be used again. The truth WILL come out. Lear's involvement with George Green and the Phoenix Journals to try to discredit me is what his phone recording is all about. I told him in June 1989 not to try any funny business with me and that is what the call was all about. He tried to help the great con the Phoenix Journals discredit me and I told him as a result that "I would crucify him". I have done that by finally releasing the information that he is Condor and as Condor has been working very closely with Moore, Shandera, Friedman, Doty, and others. I will continue to crucify him at any and every opportunity. I will also crucify anyone else who stands up against truth on this battle field. Message #8943 - UFO Date : 20-May-90 20:49 From : T.S. Bennett To : All Subject : Cooper answers Corbin/Knapp contd. Replies : #8942 <--> #8944 Ask him to play the entire tape and not just part of it out of context and you will see that this is the truth. He probably won't do it but you can try anyway. I have stated on many occassions that this is a war and I will act accordingly. The Stacy Borland story was reported to me by many people who called me by phone. I confirmed the story through a Las Vegas Psychologist. I repeat I received many phone calls all telling the same story regarding Stacy Borland. Whether she was murdered on a Saturday or on a Wednesday the next day or three weeks later has nothing to do with the subject of the story. The subject of the story was that a rumor floats around Las Vegas that someone from the test site gives Borland some documents, she is killed, Grace takes her place and members report that he is writing their names on what appears to be government forms labeled CONFIDENTIAL. Try as you might to cover up the important facts but you won't succeed. It is my opinion that she was given documents and that your group or the people you work for killed her. I know that MAJESTY TWELVE (also known as MAJORITY TWELVE) has killed before and most probably will kill again. Moore and Lear work for them. George Knapp states in his letter to Corbin that John Grace was appointed to take over the contactee group. The members of the group who have called me expressed anger and concern that his assumption of the leadership was totally against the wishes of the members. In fact if the reports are correct some of the groups members have left the group over this issue. Just exactly who appointed Grace over the protest of the members? Is it a democratic group or a Nazi group? I understand from the many calls that I have received that the members are not happy with the situation and the group is splintered. Cory and Jeff are only 2 of the sources for this information but both are friends of Lear's. Are they telling me the truth or is Lear setting me up? I believe they have told the truth as they knew it in every case. George Knapp really screwed up when he implied that I accused John Grace of murder. That is an outright lie. George Knapp is a liar. I said no such thing anywhere in the story (he calls himself a journalist?). I reported what was told to me by many sources and all that is required of a journalist is 2 sources. I am not a journalist and I did a better job than both Mike Corbin and George Knapp have done so far. Here are the facts. William Moore is a self confessed agent. No one can deny that. Only fools listen to Moore now. HE CONFESSED. Do you hear that George? Are you a fool or do you work for them? George Knapp you knew that Moore was a self confessed agent and you still used him in your series and in your 2 hour special. Why? During the 2 hour special you presented Moore as a credible prominent researcher. You made no mention that Moore had doctored documents and had admitted it. No mention was made that Moore had engaged in lying and passing out disinformation to other researchers. No mention was made that Moore had confessed to being an agent for an intelligence agency. You did not mention that Moore spied on researchers and submitted reports to his controller. Message #8944 - UFO Date : 20-May-90 20:50 From : T.S. Bennett To : All Subject : Cooper answers Corbin/Knapp contd. Replies : #8943 <--> #8945 WHY? Thats about the worst kind of journalism. It's irresponsible and it sucks. It says a lot about George Knapp. Why did George Knapp, experienced and hardened journalist, promote the Lazar story when every rule of journalism says not to do it. Why did Knapp swallow it hook line and sinker when the only thing backing Lazar up was his name in a phone book? Why did Knapp do everything short of jumping off a cliff to get the public to believe Lazar, even say on the air that he, Knapp, believed Lazar? That is something that no good journalist would ever do and is guaranteed to fetch a failing grade in any journalism class. I'll tell you why. George wasn't out to do good journalism. George Knapp, in my opinion, was either taken in by Lear or he works with Lear, Moore, Lazar, Friedman, Doty, Shandera, etc. Which is it George? There is more to George Knapp than meets the eye. He has a vested interest in attacking me. If I am right it could cost him his job and I guarantee you that I am right about both Lazar and Lear. Lazar is a fake and Lear is Condor. If Lear is Condor then that makes fools of everyone. No one likes to be a fool but most UFOlogists are exactly that. I keep saying to DO RESEARCH, TO INVESTIGATE, but no one does it. They just sit around and call each other names. You had better remember that I was the Executive Director of a College that taught security and law enforcement courses. Many of my faculty members were sargeants and leutenants on the police force. My personal bodyguard was the head of that department. I was also a member of Naval Security and Intelligence. Both Lear and Doty were easy to identify. A scrambled voice can be unscrambled. Didn't know that did you. I not only knew it but did it. I also had a voice print analysis done. The voice is John Lear's. You all think a man photographed in shadow is invisible don't you. Well, he is not. Try body measurement proportion comparison. In other words take a picture of John Lear and in the same pose as Condor and with the same body angle. Its easy as it is the normal posture of john Lear. The picture does not have to be to the same scale. I have several of him sitting and talking in the exact same position and the same angle. Take as many body measurements as you can and then compare them to each other. The more measurements and the more comparisons you can make the more positive the identification will be. I was able to make 19 different measurements and many times as many comparisons. Then do the same on the man in the shadow. THE VOICE IS JOHN LEAR AND THE BODY MEASUREMENT PROPORTION COMPARISONS MATCHED PERFECTLY IN EVERY INSTANCE. It's really very easy. Anyone can master the technique. You will only have to fork out money for the voice print analysis. Most of you are to cheap to do it and George Knapp has a vested interest in AVOIDING IT AT ALL COSTS. I challenge George Knapp to stop taking Lear's word that he is not Condor and do some real investigative reporting. Lear insists that Condor is Bob Collins. Bob Collins physic is no where near Condor's but Lear fits perfectly. Get wise Knapp your whole life is on the line here. Do you work for Lear or what? Are you part of the awareness group too? Are you a traitor? Message #8945 - UFO Date : 20-May-90 20:51 From : T.S. Bennett To : All Subject : Cooper answers Corbin/Knapp contd. Replies : #8944 <- I have known that Lear is an agent ever since February of 1972 and I have confided that in not 1 or 2 people but in probably 12 or 13 people and maybe more than that over the last several years. I am sure that most of them will confirm it if the need arises. Bob Swan also knows it. In the "Secret Government" I stated that I saw Moore, Friedman, and Maccabee on a list of agents to be recruited ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHERS THAT I DID NOT NAME AND IT IS STATED IN THAT PAPER. I told Lear that I saw his name on the list several days before MUFON. My wife was present and heard the entire conversation. Lear wasn't able to look me in the eye. The people helping him get MUFON organized wondered why I was not at Lear's home helping them and that is why. Lear stayed far away from me the whole time and even kept aloof from everyone else also. He was terrified that I would reveal him along with Moore, Friedman, and Maccabee. Lear gave himself away when he and Grace wrote the Krill papers. He is just like Moore. He throws truth mixed with lies out and then laughs at the public. Lear knows all about O.H. Krlll, the real one, and he got caught by me. O.H. Krlll exposed Lear not me. Anyone and everyone who has worked with this information knows he blew it. He honestly thought that no one else knew the truth. I played him just like I played Moore and I caught him just like I caught Moore. Lear KNOWS EVERYTHING. It's an old trick and Strieber is using it now with his book MAJESTIC. Now if anyone comes out with anything from GRUDGE about Forestall or the Roswell crash you will all say he stole it from Strieber. Sorry boys but it won't work anymore. People are sick of lies, deception and traitors and we are all sick of you. Lear showed me a copy of a 2 inch thick book written by employees of the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory which is a very thorough parody of the "YELLOW BOOK". I pretended that I did not know what it was and Lear had a great time. I did recognize an old friend who works at Livermore Lab and it has turned out good for me. The friend is one who put together a ......... trip to the ........ of the ............. ............ of the ...... and I helped him prepare. Filling in the blanks would reveal his identity. I told Lear at the time that I knew one of the authors of the parody. The man owed me. Since his name was in the parody I knew that he had seen the real "YELLOW BOOK". That knowledge has been very useful. THIS CONCLUDES MY EXCERPT OF BILL COOPER'S ANSWER. IT SHOULD PROVIDE THE ANSWER TO MEALY MOUTHS WHO STAND IN THE CORNER AND TRY TO DISCREDIT PERSONS WITH HONEST OPINIONS. THERE ARE ALSO ENOUGFH FACTS CONTAINED IN THESE WORDS TO THOROUGHLY CHECK OUT THE SIMPS WHO ARE TRYING TO PULL THE WOOL OVER EVERYBODY'S EYES. CIAOU!!!!! T.S.