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As a further note:  Under paragraph (3E), it mentions that there are buildings 
with "five-sided with a dome," ParaNet has seen photographic evidence of such 
buildings.  These buildings are not buildings as one would think of them, but 
what appear to be wilderness observation platforms.  The Dulce Report denies 
any of these buildings appeared in their investigation.

                        THE DULCE REPORT
                          NUMBER 920527

                          MAY 27, 1992

              A Field Investigation and Evaluation

                    A PHOENIX PROJECT REPORT
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                        The Dulce Report


   In recent years, volumes of information have circulated within
the  UFO research community regarding the alleged presence  of  a
joint U.S.\Alien base in the area of Dulce, New Mexico.

 In  an attempt to either prove or disprove the information,  the
Phoenix  Project  has completed an intense investigation  of  the
Dulce area. Our investigation encompassed the following:

 1.  A detailed physical search of the Archuleta Mesa by  vehicle
and on foot.

 2. The physical exploration of a large area surrounding the Town
of Dulce.

 3.  Interviews with local citizens, native American  Indians  of
the  Jicarilla  Apache Indian Reservation and Rio  Arriba  County
Sheriff and highway maintenance personnel.

 4.  A  search of County building and  construction  permits  and
records, and interviews to determine if any large scale  civilian
or  government  construction projects ever occurred in  the  area
from 1930 to the present.

 5.  A  comprehensive  aerial survey  and  airborne  magnetometer
survey  of the Archuleta Mesa, the Town of Dulce,  the  Archuleta
Mesa, and surrounding areas.



                           An Overview

                            Re: Dulce

 The  Town of Dulce, is located in northern New Mexico  near  the
southern border of Colorado. Dulce is located eighty-three  miles
northeast  of  Farmington, New Mexico on U.S. Route 64.  See  Map
Exhibit 1.

 It has a population of 1,648 and is nestled in a valley. Just to
the  north and overlooking the town is the large Archuleta  Mesa.
The  town  is at an altitude of 6,825 feet above sea  level.  The
main  income producing activity in the area is  cattle  ranching.
The  business and service activities are typical of those  needed
in a community of this size. There are no military or  industrial
activities, large or small, in the area. See Photo Exhibits 4 and
5.

 In  order  to  present the results of our  investigation  it  is
necessary  to refer to items of information, widely available  to
UFO  researchers, concerning the Dulce, U.S.\Alien base.  In  the
following, we will quote from those items of information. We will
attempt  to identify the source whenever possible. This  will  be
followed by our findings.


                        The Investigation

1) Source Information Excerpts: Dulce Papers.Txt Author Unknown

 ...A  joint  US/EBE facility exists beneath the  Archuleta  Mesa
near the town of DULCE NEW MEXICO. (1A) This facility has been in
existence in one form or another since 1948.

 (1B)   ...The   facility  proper  is   located   one   kilometer
underground.

 (1C) The base is approximately 2.5 miles northwest of Dulce, and
almost overlooks the town.

 (1D)  There is a paved government road 36 feet wide  going  into
the area.

 * * *

 Findings  of Phoenix Project Investigation (PHX)  regarding  the
foregoing:

 (PHX-1A)  No substantiating County records confirm  this.  Local
residents have no memory of any government installation, civilian
or military ever having existed in this area.

 (PHX-1B)  Same  as  1A.  There is no record  or  memory  of  any
underground heavy construction, excavation, or mining activity in
the area.

 (PHX-1C) See Map Exhibit 3.

 (PHX-1D)  See Map Exhibits 2 and 3, and Photo Exhibits 6 and  7.
The  road  in question is Indian Reservation Road # J-2.  It  has
never  been labeled a "government" road. This road is not  paved,
as  described  in the source material. It is a narrow,  two  lane
dirt  road (barely twenty (20) feet wide that is completely  open
for public use.

 * * *
 2) Source Information Excerpts: 1988 Krill2.Txt

 ...During  the  occupation of the Greys, they  have  established
quite  a  number  of  underground  bases  all  over  the   world,
especially in the United States. (2A) One such base (among others
in  the same state) is under Archuleta Mesa, which is  about  2.5
miles northwest of Dulce, New Mexico.

 The  foregoing  extract is from a transcript of  a  conversation
between Jim McCampbell and Dr. Paul Bennewitz on July 13, 1984.

 * * *

                            Findings:

 (PHX-2A)   This  refers  to  the  previously  mentioned   Indian
Reservation Road # J-2. The road at this point is at the base  of
the Archuleta Mesa. See Map Exhibit 3 and Photo Exhibit 7.

 * * *

3) Source Information Excerpts: 1988 Krill2.Txt

 (3A) ...Bennewitz reports he was able to determine the  location
of  the  underground facility: a  kilometer  underground  beneath
Archuleta  Mesa on the Jicarilla Apache Indian  Reservation  near
Dulce,  New  Mexico  (since 1976, one of the areas  of  the  U.S.
hardest hit by mutilations). (3B) Bennewitz' information is  that
this  installation  is operated jointly as part  of  an  on-going
program of cooperation between the U.S. government and the EBEs.


 Back  to the base under discussion. After Bennewitz briefed  Air
Force officials on what he had found, a trip to the area revealed
the following data:

 (3C)  The  base  is 2.5 miles northwest  of  Dulce,  and  almost
overlooks  the town. (3D) There is a level highway 36  feet  wide
going  into the area. It is a government road. (3E) One  can  see
telemetry trailers and buildings that are five-sided with a dome.
Next to the domes, a black limousine was noted -- a CIA  vehicle.
(3F) These limos will run you off the road if you try to get into
the  area. (3G) To the north there is a launch site.  (3H)  There
are  two wrecked ships there; they are 36 feet long  with  wings,
and one can see oxygen and hydrogen tanks. The ships that we  got
out  of  the  trade are atomic-powered  with  plutonium  pellets.
Refueling  of the plutonium is accomplished at Los  Alamos.  (3I)
The base has been there since 1948.

 Some of the disks are piloted by the NSA. (3J) The base is 4,000
feet long (3K) and helicopters are going in and out of there  all
the  time. When it became known that Bennewitz was familiar  with
this,  the  mutilations  in  the  area  stopped.  (3L)  In  1979,
something happened and the base was temporarily closed. There was
an  argument  over weapons and our people were  chased  out.  The
aliens killed 66 of our people, and 44 got away.

 One  of  the people who in fact got away was a  CIA  agent  who,
before leaving, made some notes, photos, and videotapes, and went
into  hiding.  He has been in hiding ever since,  and  every  six
months  he  contacts each of five people he left  copies  of  the
material  with.  His  instructions were that if  he  missed  four
successive contacts, the people could do whatever they want  with
the  material  and  was  received  in  December,  1987,  by  many
researchers.  The  "Dulce Papers" were composed of 25  black  and
white  photos, a videotape with no dialogue and a set  of  papers
that   included  technical  information  regarding  the   jointly
occupied   (U.S.-Alien)  facility  one  kilometer   beneath   the
Archuleta  Mesa near Dulce, New Mexico. (3M) The  facility  still
exists and is currently operational.

 * * *

Findings:

 (PHX-3A) Refer to (PHX-1A & 1B.

 (PHX-3B)  Refer to (PHX-1A & 1B). There are no records,  nor  is
there any physical evidence to substantiate this allegation.

 (PHX-3C)   The  elevation  at  the  location  described,   where
Reservation Road J-2 crosses the Navajo River, is not high enough
to  overlook the Town of Dulce. The road is not level and  it  is
not 36-feet wide. See Map Exhibit 2.

 (PHX-3D)  See (PHX-1D). The road is not level and it is not  36-
feet  wide.  It is a narrow dirt road that climbs,  slowly,  with
many curves, around the base of Archuleta Mesa. See Photo Exhibit
7.

 (PHX-3E)  Local residents and County highway  maintenance  crews
have  no  memory  of  any  such  trailers,  buildings,  domes  or
limousines in this area. Physical investigation reveals there  is
no area where such structures ever existed.

 (PHX-3F) The Rio Arriba County Sheriff's Office has no record of
any reports, ever, having been filed by motorists forced off  the
road  by "any" type vehicle. As mentioned previously, this  is  a
Reservation  Road used by the Indians, ranchers and  the  general
public.  If  any  occurrences,  such  as  those  described   ever
occurred, it would have been the "talk-of-the-town." No residents
interviewed, remember any such events.

 (PHX-3G)  Physical investigation, on foot, failed to reveal  any
evidence of a "launch" site at the location described.

 (PHX-3H)  There  are no physical indications of  any  kind,  and
there  are no cleared areas of sufficient size to  provide  space
for  two  crashed ships or the oxygen and fuel  tanks  described.
This  includes  both sides of the road, all the  way  around  the
mesa. See Map Exhibit 3.

 (PHX-3I) There are no indications of any such facilities. No one
remembers  any  such facilities. Such facilities  are  not  there
today.

 (PHX-3J)  A complete examination of the area and the top of  the
mesa show no evidence of any 4000 foot long cleared area. If such
ever existed, scars in the landscape would still be present.  See
Map Exhibit 3.

 (PHX-3K)  Physical examination does not reveal past  or  present
helicopter landing pads anywhere in the area. Local residents  do
not  remember any extensive helicopter activity, of any kind,  in
the area.

 (PHX-3L)  There  is no record or local memory  of  any  military
presence,  garrison, or troop movements, past or present, in  the
Dulce area. Since there is only one major highway into and out of
Dulce,  the presence of any military truck convoys or  ambulances
would  not  have gone unoticed by the local  residents.  And,  as
mentioned  previously, there has never been any major  helicopter
activity that could have brought in airborne troops.


 (PHX-3M)  Contrary to the statements in the Krill2  information,
there is no physical indication of any installation in the  Dulce
area or in, around or underneath the Archuleta Mesa. Both  ground
and  aerial  surveys  do  not  indicate  any  suspicious  terrain
features.

 An airborne magnetometer survey of the described areas reveal no
unusual underground features that could be interpreted as a large
underground base. If an underground base was located 1-KM beneath
the  Archuleta  Mesa,  and it was 3-KM wide  by  8-KM  long,  its
presence  would be revealed by the magnetometer. Any  underground
facility  of the size described would be easily detected even  if
it was buried 5-KM below the mesa. It would be more than obvious.
It  would  "shout" its presence. The Magnetometer  Contour  Chart
indicates   no  hidden  underground  facility  or   any   unusual
excavations or caverns. See Exhibit-9.

 * * *

4)  Source  Information  Excerpts:  PROJECT  BETA  BY  DR.   PAUL
BENNEWITZ

 (4A)...numerous  road blocks extend northward.  (4B)  Maintained
road some thirty feet wide and servicing facilities, tanks,  etc.
There  is also an apparent foundation for another helo  pad______
(4C)  human  housing,  and another black  limousine  with  tracks
leading to it west of the road.

 ...The  total  alien  basing area  apparently  contains  several
cultures, (all under the designation 'unity') (4D) and is  approx
3km  wide by 8km long and is located in the middle of nowhere  on
the Jicarilla Indian Reservation west of Dulce, NM.

 ...Based  on  the number of ships presently in  this  area,  the
total alien population is estimated to be at least 2,000 and most
likely more.

 ----- Logistical plans -----

 ...initial   logistics  would  indicate  a   plan   sequentially
implemented   as  follows:  This  plan  does  not   include   all
requirements  and preparatory safety measures to be  employed  by
the  ground force; however, if Air Force Intelligence desires  to
pursue the approaches suggested in this report, each  significant
requirement will be discussed in depth.

 (4E)  The attack must be directed almost entirely on the  ground
since   vehicle  ignition  problems  will  be  encountered.   All
electrical  and  electronic equipment must  be  'hardened'  using
specific  techniques  perfected  prior  to  implementation.  This
information has been checked by interaction and eavesdropping  on
their  communication  channels _______as far  as  weaknesses  are
concerned. The program would be instigated in phases:

 (4F)
   1) The first procedure would be to close the gates of the  dam
above  the  Navajo River. This dam could be held closed  for  the
duration.  Internal  to the one cave, there is a  small  dam  for
water storage. Its capacity is small.

 (4G)  There is also a discharge outlet downstream that could  be
closed, causing waste water to back up into the caves. The  water
is vacuum pumped apparently by some electrostatic means from  the
river. (4H) There is a water intake and dam upstream that can  be
totally cut off and the water re-routed to Chama, New Mexico.

 * * *

Findings:

 (PHX-4A) There are no roadblocks on any roads in the Dulce Area.
See  Photo  Exhibit 7, of Reservation Road # J-2.  There  are  no
roadblocks  present. According to County Maintenance  Crews,  the
only time Road J-2 was blocked was years ago when it was "washed-
out" by heavy rains in the area.

 (PHX-4B)  Reservation Road # J-2, 2.5 miles northwest of  Dulce,
is  a  narrow,  winding,  dirt  road.  It  does  not  match   the
description in the source information.

 (PHX-4C)  No  such facilities exist. No one ever  remembers  the
existence of any such facilities.

 (PHX-4D)  Investigations  on  foot, by vehicle,  and  by  aerial
survey, show no evidence of secret entrances to any facility or a
base as large as the one described in the source information.

 (PHX-4E)  An Electro-Magnetic "spectrum sweep" of the  Archuleta
Mesa  and the Town of Dulce, revealed no unusual  electromagnetic
disturbances.  The  entire area was surveyed by a  "Total  Field"
Magnetometer. No unusual magnetic disturbances were recorded.

 (PHX-4F) There are no records of any "Dams" on the Navajo  River
anywhere near the Dulce area or north of the Archuleta Mesa.  The
"Dam" described in the source information does not exist.

 (PHX-4G) An "on-foot" survey of the Navajo River did not  reveal
the existence of any "discharge outlets" downstream. There is  no
evidence  of any caves. The Indians interviewed did not  know  of
any   caves,  along  the  river,  as  described  in  the   source
information.


 (PHX-4H)  There  is no "water intake" or "dam" upstream  on  the
Navajo  River.  The  lack  of  any  "dams"  can  be  verified  by
consulting any topographical or aeronautical charts of the  area.
Re-routing the Navajo River, by damming it, to Chama, New Mexico,
as described by Bennewitz, would be a miraculous feat. Chama, New
Mexico  is  at  an elevation of 8,025 feet above  sea  level,  as
indicated  by Aeronautical Chart # 45 dated July 25,  1991.  Also
noted,  on  this same chart, is the elevation of Dulce  as  6,800
feet above sea level. It would be a natural impossibility to have
the  water of the Navajo River re-routed to Chama, as  the  water
would  have  flow  up-hill  over  the  Continental  Divide   that
separates  the  two towns. The mountainous  terrain  ranges  from
9,025 to 9,916 feet above sea level with no obvious gravitational
advantages  between the two towns. Such an effort  would  require
the  installation  on a monster pipeline and pumping  station  to
accomplish  this.  No such pipeline or pumping station  has  ever
been built in this area.

 * * * 5) Source Information Excerpt Thisisit.Txt Wm. C. Cooper

 ...The  alien  underground  base is located  beneath  an  indian
reservation near the small town of Dulce, New Mexico...

 * * *

Findings:

 All of the previous "Findings" apply to this source information.

 * * *

CONCLUSIONS:

 Information  from  many sources regarding the  existence  of  an
alleged U.S.\Alien Base at Dulce, New Mexico, does not agree with
the  facts  obtained  by the investigation  carried  out  by  The
Phoenix Project. It would appear that the information  describing
this   alleged  U.S./Alien  Base  and  the  numerous   facilities
associated  with  it,  is entirely  false.  This  would  indicate
deliberate  disinformation supplied to UFO investigators and  all
those   interested   in  UFO  research.  It   seems   that   this
disinformation  is  designed to mis-lead and  mis-direct  serious
researchers away from the truth. It seems incredible that serious
UFO  researchers and the UFO Movement, in general,  could  accept
the  information  regarding a large U.S.\Alien Base  near  Dulce,
without making a detailed and complete investigation.
   The facts revealed by the Phoenix Project investigation do not
support the presence of a joint U.S.\Alien base near Dulce -- and
it is not in, around, or under the Archuleta Mesa. Perhaps  there
is  a  such  a  base  somewhere  else  on  the  Jicarilla  Indian
Reservation,  but  if  that is true, it seems  strange  that  the
Apaches,  the  local residents and the proper  local  authorities
have  no  knowledge  of its presence or that  such  a  base  ever
existed.

 From  a  practical  stand-point,  a base as  large  as  the  one
described  in  the information supplied by  the  sources  quoted,
along  with  a staff of 2000 aliens and their  human  co-workers,
would need to meet certain logistical requirements. Any  sizeable
joint  U.S.\Alien base, located anywhere, would need to meet  the
same requirements.

 1. The presence of a large, highly technical, human work-force.

 2.  Support  facilities  for  such  a  human  work-force,  i.e.,
housing, medical, recreational, service and shopping, and service
support facilities.

 3. There would obviously be work-shifts with workers coming  and
going  at certain hours. None of this activity could  be  totally
concealed.  This activity would be recognized by other people  in
the area.

 4.  Such  a base would require operating  supplies  which  would
require  incoming  freight shipments.  Delivering  such  supplies
would require delivery trucks or some form of air transport. Such
activity,  on a regular basis, would not go un-noticed  by  local
residents.

 5.  If such a base existed, above ground or  underground,  there
would need to be security guards, fenced or controlled areas  and
regular   perimeter  patrols.  A  relationship  with  local   law
enforcement  officials  would be required. The presence  of  such
security forces and patrols would not go un-noticed by  residents
in the area.

 6.  Local authorities, i.e., city, county, and law  enforcement,
would know if such a base or facility existed in their area.

 Please  note.  None  of the foregoing criteria  exist,  or  have
existed,  in  or  around the Town of Dulce  or  anywhere  on  the
Jicarilla  Apache  Indian Reservation. Nor do they exist  in  any
other  "remote  areas" where there are suspected  U.S.  or  joint
U.S\Alien  bases.  Thus, one can only conclude  that  such  bases
cannot remain "hidden" in remote areas. Someone will always  know
or  remember  that something strange is going-on  in  any  remote
area.

 Where then, should one look for such bases? The answer should be
obvious.   Such  bases  must  meet  the   requirements   outlined
previously.  They are located in known areas which meet  all  the
logistical  requirements. There are any number of  government  or
military  installations  in  New Mexico  that  easily  meet  such
requirements. However, gaining entry to such facilities, to prove
that such a base exists, would prove difficult if not  impossible
to  any  civilian  researcher  without  the  proper  credentials,
security clearances and a "need-to-know."

 The following pages contain the maps, photographs and scientific
exhibits associated with this Report.


Signed,


The Phoenix Project

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Below is a seven part message concerning an alleged discovery of an alien base
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THE K-2 REPORT: The Discovery of a Secret Alien Base In  Northern
California. Report Number 920627. May 27, 1992.

The "Phoenix Project Reports" Are Published By ADVENT  PUBLISHING
COMPANY P.O. Box 3748 Carson City, NV 89702

Entire Contents Copyright (c) 1992 by The Phoenix Project

Permission  to quote is granted provided the Phoenix  Project  is
acknowledged  as  the source and the Report Title  and  Date  are
included in any quotes.

Reproduction  of any Phoenix Project Report or Logo, in any  form
or by any means, is not permissible without written authorization
from the publisher

WHAT IS THE PHOENIX PROJECT?

 The   Phoenix   Project  is  a   private,   civilian,   research
organization   formed  in  1952  to  investigate  and   correlate
information  concerning  Unidentified Flying Objects  (UFOs)  and
Extra-Terrestrial (ET) activities. It has no affiliation with the
United  States Government or any of its agencies. Because of  the
nature of its work the Phoenix Project does not seek publicity.

 Staff  members are former military personnel who have  all  been
associated  with intelligence activities, and have  knowledge  of
covert government operations concerning UFO's. Their knowledge of
the  specialized  field of  "intelligence  correlation,"  provide
unique insights into various subject matter.

 From  time-to-time  and  in the  public  interest,  the  Phoenix
Project will publish research reports regarding certain subjects.
A   list  of  reports  is  available  from  our  publisher.   All
correspondence should be addressed to:

The  Phoenix Project C/O Advent Publishing Company P.O. Box  3748
Carson City, NV 89702

IMPORTANT NOTE

The  name  "Phoenix"  is used by many  different  publishers  and
organizations  as  a  part  of the name  used  in  their  various
publications.

To  avoid any false association with or confusion that  might  be
caused  by  a  similar name, all  publications  of  the  "Phoenix
Project"  bear the Project's Logo (a registered  trade-mark)  and
are  published  exclusively  by Advent  Publishing  Company.  The
"Phoenix  Project" is not affiliated with any other  publication,
publisher, organization or group.

In particular, there is no affiliation with a publisher known  as
America West, of Carson City, Nevada, any of its publications, or
the individuals known as George and Desiree Green, of  Tehachapi,
California.

INTRODUCTION TO THE K-2 REPORT

SPECIAL NOTE:

 June 27, 1992

 The  original  "K-2  Special Report," dated July  28,  1989  and
included  in  this document, was  classified  "confidential"  for
circulation within the Phoenix Project only. It was not  released
for public distribution. There are compelling reasons for  making
it public at this time, and to update this information. Note  the
following:

 1)  In  the  last decade, there has been  a  growing  number  of
reports  of  hostile activity by alien beings,  directed  against
humanity.

 2)  Various  Departments  and  Agencies  of  the  United  States
Government have increased their activity on two different levels.

 One:  They  have  stepped-up  the level  of  their  covert  dis-
information  campaign  --  a campaign  aimed  at  disrupting  the
civilian  UFO  movement.  This  is  evidenced  by  an  increasing
quantity    of   dis-information   supplied    to    individuals,
organizations  and the public. It is an onoing program to  create
wide-spread  confusion throughout the UFO movement,  to  splinter
organizations,  and to discredit any investigators who  get  near
the  truth.  Many researchers are  spinning-their-wheels  chasing
down, deliberately planted, false leads. The tactics employed are
aimed  at diverting attention away from critical areas where  the
truth would be revealed.

 Trained operatives have infiltrated the UFO movement, poising as
sincere and trusted investigators while others adopt the roles of
professional skeptics and debunkers. By covering and  controlling
both sides-of-theence, they insure that the truth remains hidden.

 Two: This duplicity extends to their relations with the  aliens.
On  one  hand  they  continue the charade  of  working  with  and
assisting the aliens -- to obtain the advanced alien  technology,
while  they  secretly develop operations and weapons  systems  to
counter the threat the aliens represent.


 The aliens have indulged in the same duplicity. Saying one thing
to   the  super-powers,  to  create  an  appetite  for   superior
technology,  while  carrying  out  their  own  covert  activities
against humanity. They have created wellidden bases of their own.
Bases that allow them to continue their covert operations without
government interference or scrutiny. Bases unknown to the various
world governments.

 It  would  be  untrue to say that the  U.S.  Government  doesn't
suspect  the existence of hidden alien bases. However,  to  date,
they have had shown little success in locating them.

 It  is  not the intention or purpose of the Phoenix  Project  to
judge   the  government's  actions  or  the  actions   of   those
responsible and involved in the UFO coverup activity. Our efforts
are  not part of a vindictive crusade against the government.  In
our  opinion,  the  public  has a right to  know  the  facts  and
information revealed by our investigations. If this proves to  be
an  embarrassment  to  those  responsible  for  concealing   such
information, they have only themselves to blame.

 Our  efforts  may  help  wiser  heads  in  the  government   and
elsewhere,  to realize that the aliens have hidden objectives  of
their own. Objectives they have not made known to the  government
and  humanity.  Wiser  heads may also  realize  that  Washington,
Langley  and Fort Meade do not have exclusive possession of  that
called  "intelligence"  or intelligence data. Perhaps  they  will
finally recognize that "others" are able to obtain, correlate and
evaluate  important information on their own. A  rational  person
might  realize  the  value and importance  of  cooperation  with,
rather  than  antagonism  against, others  who  possess  valuable
information.

 The  objective  of  the Phoenix Project in  making  this  report
public is to accomplish the following:

 1) To reveal to the U.S. Government, civilian UFO  investigators
and  the  public, the existence and location of  a  hidden  alien
base.  It will also become known that the aliens have  used,  and
are  continuing  to  use, without  their  knowledge  or  consent,
personnel of the U.S. Forest Service to help conceal the presence
of this base. Details concerning this are included in the updated
information supplement in the Exhibit Section of this report.

 2) Revealing the location of this base will render it useless to
the  aliens.  This  will severely impact  part  of  their  covert
activity against humanity.

 3) To reveal one aspect of the alien threat to the public.

HOW THE INVESTIGATION BEGAN AND THE ALIEN BASE WAS DISCOVERED

 The  Phoenix  Project investigation into this  matter  began  in
early  June  of  1989. Our Staff Member # 2,  then,  overheard  a
strange short-wave radio transmission that aroused his  interest.
Every  night,  for  two weeks, he  monitored  this  unique  radio
transmission.  Then, using radio direction-finding equipment,  he
was  able  to  locate the source of the  transmission.  By  using
triangulation  techniques he found the signal was coming from  an
area some forty miles northeast of his location.

 On  June 10, 1989, he recorded the strange  radio  transmission.
The  broadcast  signal lasted nearly an hour. The  recording  was
sent  to  the Project's Headquarters for  further  analysis.  Our
analysis  of the recording caused the Project to launch  a  major
investigation  into  this matter. As a side  project,  our  Staff
decided  to  "test"  the current  degree  of  government  secrecy
regarding UFO research. We created a test.

THE TEST

 Our  staff  contacted Dr. Peter Sturrock  at  Stanford  Research
Institute  in Palo Alto, California. Dr. Sturrock enjoys a  quiet
reputation of being a "concerned" and reliable UFO Researcher. We
requested  that  he conduct a further study and analysis  of  the
recording. Dr. Sturrock was very interested and cooperative -- at
first.  However,  very quickly, his attitude  changed.  Within  a
week, and acting very reserved and guarded, he phoned us  stating
he couldn't have anything further to do with this matter and that
Stanford  Research  could not analyze the recording.  No  further
explanation  was offered. He suggested we take the  recording  to
Dr. James Harder at NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View,
California. We thanked Dr. Sturrock for his initial interest  and
expressed  our  regrets that he was unable to pursue  the  matter
further.  In the next day's mail, we received the  recording  and
our analysis notes from Dr. Sturrock.

 A  courier  delivered  the recording to NASA's  Dr.  Harder,  in
person, the following day. A week later we called to ask how  the
analysis  was progressing. Dr. Harder was not available  when  we
phoned,  but his secretary could not recall having  received  any
recording  from us. Therefore, there was nothing to  analyze  and
they  were  unable  to  assist  us  further.  The  tone  of   the
conversation was abrupt and had the ring of an obvious dismissal.

 Fortunately,  the  "lost"  recording  was a  copy  and  not  the
original.  It  was becoming very obvious that  Dr.  Sturrock  and
Stanford  Research, and that Dr. Harder and NASA, were not  going
to  reveal what their analysis of the recording revealed.  Again,
the  official  research community had failed our "test."  It  was
time to move on.



 Meanwhile,  the  Project's  Staff  decided  to  investigate  the
location   thought  to  be  the  source  of  the  strange   radio
transmission.

 On  June  15,  1989,  a  Phoenix  Project  Survey  Team  made  a
preliminary  investigation to locate the site and origin  of  the
mysterious  radio  transmission.  The  site  was  located  and  a
preliminary investigation was completed.

 A  second  site  survey  and  more  detailed  investigation  was
conducted  on  June 28, 1989. The results of this  second  survey
prompted   the  need  for  an  in-depth  scientific  survey   and
investigation of the site.

 On July 19, 1989, the third survey was launched. A well-equipped
science  and  investigative team arrived at the K-2  Site  for  a
three-day effort. For security reasons, at the time, the  Phoenix
Project  assigned  the code name "K-2" to the site area  and  the
investigative  effort. The results of all three site surveys  and
the  results  of the investigation, were compiled  the  following
week.   The  following  report  reveals  the  details   of   that
investigation.

Date of original report: July 28, 1989

 Revised for updated information: June 22, 1992

K-2 -- A SPECIAL REPORT

A SUMMARY OF FINDINGS

GENERAL DESCRIPTION

 K-2 is the Phoenix Project code name for a specific geographical
site   in  Northern  California.  It  has  been  determined,   by
investigation,  that  this site is the location of  a  previously
unknown  and undiscovered extra-terrestrial (alien)  installation
and base of operations.

 To  date,  the  U.S. Government  and  its  various  intelligence
agencies  has  given  no indication that they are  aware  of  the
existence  of  the  K-2 Alien Base or its location.  It  is  also
unknown  to  the general public and to leading  UFO  researchers.
This report is the first time its existence has been revealed.

 Alien spacecraft seen arriving and departing from this base, and
the  small, grey, alien creatures seen at this location, lead  to
the  inescapable conclusion that this base was built by,  and  is
operated  by, an alien race from the star system  Zeta  Reticuli.
This race, known in covert government and select public  circles,
and to UFO researchers, has been named the Greys.

CONCEALMENT FEATURES

 The site of this secret alien base is within the Plumas National
Forest. The base is well-concealed and hidden underground, inside
a  "land-mark" mountain -ilot Peak, in northern California.  This
site  is  located  in Plumas County, on  a  remote  and  isolated
stretch of county road between the towns of La Porte and  Quincy.
See Exhibit 1.

 The  site  is isolated and cut-off from general  access,  except
from the air or the use of snowmobiles, or ski's, 6 months of the
year  because  of heavy snow conditions. A well  constructed  and
permanent  "fire"  lookout tower on top of Pilot Peak  (K-2)  was
suddenly abandoned several years ago. Discussions with local U.S.
Forest Rangers, indicate there are no intentions of ever  manning
or  re-activating  the fire lookout station.  Budgetary  problems
were  not a factor. The explanation given, was that  the  lookout
was  obsolete.  Fire  spotting,  these  days,  according  to  the
rangers, is better accomplished by patrolling aircraft.

 This explanation, (in 1989) seems suspect and insubstantial,  at
best.  Evidence to support these claims are provided by the  fact
that   other  fire  lookout  stations,  in  nearby   areas,   are
operational  and manned throughout the peak summer  fire  season.
Why is the K-2 fire lookout an exception?

 An  outstanding "air approach corridor," provides  incoming  and
outgoing alien spacecraft with exceptional concealment. The  "air
corridor"  leading to and from this hidden base is, somehow,  not
covered  by  either  military or civilian radar  or  air  traffic
control.  This has been verified by examination  of  aeronautical
charts  of  the area. Terrain features, also,  provide  excellent
concealment from visual observation. See Exhibit 2.

TERRAIN FEATURES OF THE SITE:

 The main area of the Alien base is a "U" shaped bowl cradled  at
the northern end and at the foot of Pilot Peak and its associated
mountain  ridges. The site is protected on three sides by 400  to
600  foot mountain ridges. Two, level terrain, landing zones  200
to 300 feet in diameter are present. Well concealed and  expertly
camouflaged entrances to the Alien base are located near each  of
the landing zones. See Exhibit 3.

 High  mountains and deep valleys, leading to and from  the  open
mouth  of  the "U" shaped site, provides a 20 mile  approach  and
departure corridor that is secure from ground-based radar,  civil
or  military.  The deep valley and canyons  also  prevent  visual
observation  of  low-flying spacecraft. Visual  observation  from
high-flying  military or civilian jet traffic is not  likely,  as
the site is not on or near an established air traffic route.  See
Exhibit 17.



LANDING SITE EVIDENCE

 There  are  some physical indications present  at  both  landing
sites,  Landing Zone 1 and 2 (indentations in the  ground,  large
circular  areas of flattened native grass, and small  amounts  of
residual radio-active radiation). Most striking, however, is  the
fact  that  there  is  an unusual absence  of  animal  or  rodent
presence.  There are no animals; animal tracks, rodents,  snakes,
ground  squirrels or chipmunks present in or around  the  landing
sites.  However, these creatures are present everywhere  else  in
the  area.  Birds, also present elsewhere, seem to  avoid  flying
over  or  through the landing areas.  Insect  life,  particularly
flying  insects -- deer flies, common flies and  mosquitoes,  are
present  everywhere. Other researchers have established the  fact
that  the lack of animal or rodent presence in UFO landing  areas
is significant.

AREA NEAR CONCEALED BASE

 To  the casual observer visiting the K-2 site, everything  would
appear quite normal. The area seems peaceful and serene. However,
in  the  general  area  of  the  concealed  Alien  base,  to   an
experienced observer, it suggests and entirely different picture.
The  area is too tranquil and perfect, both in appearance and  in
the  general atmosphere of the place. The term "picture  perfect"
is  appropriate.  This  setting  is  completely  unrealistic  and
paradoxical when compared with other areas a mere half-mile away.

SURVEY PARTY OBSERVATIONS

 On  three  occasions  (in 1989)  trained  investigators  of  the
Phoenix Project have visited and investigated the K-2 site.  They
have   all  experienced  and  observed  unusual   phenomena   and
conditions in the area.

 1)  An uncanny stillness (the absence of normal  sounds)  during
the day. This was even more evident during the hours of darkness.
No  animal sounds. No owls hooting. No birds chirping.  No  cries
from coyotes. The absence of these normal sounds in the area  was
unsettling.  This phenomenon has been observed on every visit  to
this site.

 2) All the investigators experienced independent and  unprompted
feelings   of  being  observed  by  unseen  watchers.  This   was
particularly evident on the first visit to the site. Each  member
of  the survey party, independently, and with no solicitation  or
prompting from each other, reported, afterwards, strong  feelings
of being watched and frequently they turned around to look behind
them.  However, no unseen watchers were discovered. This  left  a
strong impression on the survey party.

 3) On the first survey there were observations of unusual  cloud
behavior. Clouds that formed out of nowhere. Clouds that appeared
and disappeared with sudden quickness. Thick, angry looking, grey
clouds  that billowed up in ominous manner, with a "boiling"  and
rolling  end-over-end motion, that quickly enveloped  the  entire
site  area. Survey party members wondered if the atmosphere  was,
somehow,  being controlled. All of this activity was confined  to
the  K-2 site area. A half-mile away, in any direction,  the  sky
was clear.

 4)  Observations  on the first and second visits  to  the  site,
revealed that an earthen dike (erected to maintain a 6 foot water
level  in a large pond near the concealed secret base)  had  very
recently,  been  deliberately  breached over a  ten  foot  width,
dropping  the pond's water level to a 6 inch depth. Shovel  marks
were  evident  in the breach area. The lack of  erosion,  on  the
sides of the breached area, indicated its recent nature.

 However,  on  the  third visit this  breach  had  been  expertly
repaired.  There were heavy equipment tracks (a  bulldozer's)  in
and  around the dike. Earth, dug from a nearby hill, was used  to
repair  the  dike. Forest Rangers, who patrol  the  area  several
times  each  day, when questioned about this, were at a  loss  to
explain  the  repairs.  No one using  heavy  equipment  had  been
observed  in the area. According to the Rangers, the pond is  not
used  for any known purpose -- yet it's there.  Someone  recently
breached it to lower the water level. Then, someone, unknown  and
unobserved, repaired it. See Exhibit 15.

 Why  the pond with no known purpose or function? Why breach  it?
Why  repair  it?  Why wasn't the use of heavy  equipment  or  the
repairs,  noticed by the patrolling Rangers? It should be  stated
that  the Rangers are very observant and notice everything  going
on  in  their area, as our questions revealed. Why is  K-2,  this
Alien base, seemingly, exempt?

 5) The county road between the towns of La Porte and Quincy is a
rough, poorly maintained, dirt road for some 30 miles. Rough dirt
roads  are  prevalent  throughout  the  area  for  miles  in  all
directions. There are no towns, settlements, fishing areas,  camp
grounds,  or anything else of significance, anywhere in the  area
near Pilot Peak (K-2). This site is out in the middle of nowhere.
Yet  --  the  county  road for 2-1/2 miles  either  side  of  the
entrance  to the K-2 site, is a modern, well  maintained,  black-
topped,  2 lane highway. Before and after this 5 mile stretch  of
modern  road, it is again a dirt road. Why? No one questioned  by
our  investigators had any explanation. And, more  curiously,  no
one seemed the least bit curious about it. Why? Refer to Exhibits
1 and 3.



 6) There is a rough, hard-packed, dirt road leading to K-2  from
the  town  of  La Porte. It is a narrow 2 lane road.  It  is  not
frequently  traveled.  On  the  third  visit  to  the  K-2  site,
extraordinary logging activity, by "two" major logging companies,
were  evident.  Only the trees within 20 feet on either  side  of
this  dirt  road  are  being cut and  hauled  to  sawmills.  When
questioned,  the  loggers  were  uncommunicative  regarding  this
activity.  However,  there is every reason to believe,  from  the
nature  of this activity, that this road is going to  be  widened
and improved. Possibly, even black-topped.

 One must remember that this road is an obscure county road  that
is infrequently used. It provides a secondary connection  between
the  two towns of La Porte and Quincy, some thirty  miles  apart.
Why the activity to widen and improve it? Why improve a road that
is hardly used by the general public?

 It must be remembered that all these secondary county roads  are
totally  impassible, because of heavy snow, for 6 months  of  the
year. No efforts are made during the winter to keep them open and
clear.  In fact, just outside of La Porte there is a heavy  metal
gate  that  is used to block the road during the  winter  months.
Why, then, all this activity? What purpose is being served?

METHODS USED TO DETERMINE THE PRESENCE, LOCATION AND SIZE OF  THE
ALIEN BASE

 Since the only way to conceal a large installation is to bury it
underground,  or  in the depths of an ocean, out of  sight,  only
certain types of sophisticated scientific instruments can  reveal
the underground presence of such an installation. Foremost  among
these  instruments,  is that known as a  portable  "total  field"
magnetometer.  This  instrument is widely  used  by  professional
geologists  to  detect  the  presence  of  valuable   underground
minerals,   oil,  and  water  deposits.  It  is  also   used   by
sophisticated  archaeologists  to detect the remains  of  ancient
buried   cities,  caverns  and  other  valuable  sites  of   past
civilizations.

 A  magnetometer is a precision instrument that  measures  minute
changes  or  deviations in the Earth's magnetic  field  within  a
given  area.  All  geological  features:  mountains,  lava  beds,
rivers, streams and lakes, plains, meadows and plateaus, and even
grains of sand, eventually, over thousands of years, align  their
molecular magnetic structure with the prevailing direction of the
Earth's magnetic field. Earthquakes, volcanoes and geological up-
thrusts,  and their resultant forces, in creating all  geological
formations, cause deviations in an area's basic magnetic pattern.
Underground  geological features such as: upthrust  dikes,  sheer
planes,  faults, mineral deposits, caverns, caves, tombs,  rivers
and lakes, etc., and other anomalies, leave their  characteristic
and recognizable magnetic signatures.

 In  a  like manner, any underground  excavations,  tunneling  or
shafts, create a deviation from the normal patterns prevalent  in
a given area. Such underground construction activity disturbs the
local  magnetic field in the area. This disturbance is caused  by
the material excavated or otherwise moved. The magnetometer  can,
by noting the strength of such deviations and disturbances,  then
determine  the  location, shape, size and depth  of  such  buried
features and anomalies.

 Sophisticated computer programs can then analyze the information
reported by this instrument and create statistical data,  charts,
plots and maps, which portray the underground features of an area
in  amazing detail. The magnetometer, in a sense, is  similar  to
having a form of powerful x-ray vision that is capable of looking
deep within the earth.

 For three days starting on July 19, 1989, a portable total-field
magnetometer was used by the Phoenix Project's scientific  survey
team to conduct a magnetic mapping of highly suspect areas of the
K-2 site.

 The  presence of our survey teams aroused intense  curiosity  on
the part of the U.S. Forest Service and their Rangers. The  first
day,  several  different Rangers questioned  us  intensely.  They
asked us who we were, what we were doing, how long we would be in
the  area,  where we came from, etc. We  had  prepared  plausible
answers  to  such questions in advance of being  questioned.  Our
answers  seemed to satisfy their initial curiosity. However,  the
second  and  third day of our presence on the site,  brought  the
Rangers  out  in  force.  Hardly an  hour  would  pass  before  a
different  Ranger or pair of Rangers would appear and  start  the
questions  all  over again. They seemed determined  to  find  out
exactly  who we were, why we were there, what we were doing,  and
why we were doing it, etc. Some of the Rangers stayed a while and
became interested in the scientific equipment and its  operation.
To  satisfy  them, we let them assist us in taking  some  of  the
magnetometer  readings. But, continuously, they tried to pump  us
for  additional  information.  Each time we gave  them  the  same
answers and eventually they would leave. The on-going visits  and
questions eventually became a game that was amusing. However,  we
couldn't help but wonder what was driving their curiosity and why
they continued the constant barrage of questions. See Exhibit 21.


 This  magnetic survey revealed the presence of a large  metallic
or metal constructed chamber of enormous size, thought to be  the
main alien installation or base, and other metal-lined  chambers.
In  addition,  various metalined tunnels and fused  natural  rock
passages   and   tunnels,  connecting  various   areas   of   the
installation, and providing means to enter and exit the base were
detected.

 Subsequent  computer analysis, of the data obtained,  created  a
highly-detailed magnetic contour map of part of this installation
(the  bulk  of  the  main installation lies  under  an  area  not
surveyed  on this occasion, but "linking" evidence indicates  its
direction and location) along with various tunnels, passages  and
entrances.  Exhibits  4,  5,  6, 7, 8, 9,  and  10  include  this
scientific information.

CONCLUSION (July 1989)

 It  is  the  opinion of the members  of  the  Phoenix  Project's
investigators  and  scientific  survey  teams,  based  on   their
personal  on-site  observations and in-depth study of  the  Pilot
Peak  (K-2)  site,  the  facts  revealed,  interviews  with  USFS
Rangers,  and  scientific analysis, that a  hidden,  underground,
major operational base of alien beings has been discovered.  This
investigation  and  survey were conducted by  highly-trained  and
credible  individuals  who  uncovered  --  incredible  facts.   A
complete  magnetic  survey of adjacent areas,  several  acres  in
extent, would reveal the true dimensions of this installation and
additional  valuable details, and is to be recommended.  However,
the  financial  cost of such an extensive survey  is  beyond  the
resources available to this group of investigators.

INFORMATION UPDATE

Date:  August 16, 1989 From: Staff # 1 Subject: Activity  Reports
concerning K-2

Comment from Staff # 1: Date: August 10, 1989, Time: 2215 PDT.

 At  2215  PDT, I received a phone call from Staff #  2  who  was
stationed forty miles southwest of K-2. In an excited manner,  he
described sighting a large glowing object that had, only  minutes
before, passed very near his observation point. He supplied a few
details. Knowing, from experience that the Phoenix Project phones
are being monitored by various government intelligence  agencies,
I  cut the conversation short and requested that  he  investigate
the  K-2  Site the next day and send me the complete  details  by
courier.  I received the following information from Staff # 2  on
August 14, 1989.

* * *

Report # 1: By Staff # 2: Date: August 10, 1989, Time: 2212  PDT.
Location: Approximately 40 miles southwest of K-2.

 A brightly glowing object was observed from my location. It  was
approximately 30-40 feet in diameter, moving slowly from south to
north at 500 feet above the tree-tops.

 When  first sighted, the object was approaching from  the  South
and slowing down. When opposite my observation point, it  stopped
in  mid-air  and hovered. The object was glowing  with  a  bright
white  light, as it approached. When it stopped and hovered,  the
color changed to a bright blue light.

 It  remained  stopped  for approximately  15  seconds,  then  it
changed back to a bright white color, as it started moving slowly
(10-15 mph) toward the North in the direction of K-2.

 Observations:  The object lit up the area, quite well,  when  it
was  glowing with the white light. No sound was produced  by  the
object.  Normal  animal  and  insect sounds,  in  my  area,  were
silenced.  A  light breeze, present before the  object  appeared,
disappeared.  Everything  became very still, as  the  object  was
approaching and while it was hovering.

 The  Moon  was still below the horizon. The sky  was  clear  and
dark, with stars clearly visible.

 A  "scanner" radio, I was monitoring, picked up severe noise  30
seconds  before, during, and while the object moved away from  my
location.

I did not experience any electrical effects (tingling or  prickly
sensations) during the sighting.

 The  sighting  lasted approximately 45 seconds.  There  was  not
enough time to get a camera and take pictures.

 Within  10  minutes, after the object left the area,  eight  Air
Force   jet  fighters  (F-4s,  judging  from  their   sound   and
appearance) and moving very fast, went overhead traveling in  the
same  direction  the  object had taken -owards  the  North.  Four
minutes  later, the fighters returned, heading south. I  presumed
the  object had been spotted by their radar. Their  quick  return
would indicate they lost radar contact with the object.



* * *

Report  # 3 By Staff # 2: Date: August 11, 1989, Time:  1500  PDT
Location: K-2

 Following the events of the night before, I made a quick trip to
check out the K-2 area.

 Observation:  There  was  a "burned" or  scorched  area  on  the
ground,  30  feet  in  diameter, at the  LZ-1  (landing  zone  1)
apparently, where an object had landed. In the rush to get there,
I  forgot  to take my camera. No pictures  were  obtained.  After
further  checking out the area, I left. I decided to  return  the
next day with a camera to get pictures of the burn marks.

* * *

Report  # 4 By Staff # 2: Date: August 12, 1989, Time:  1300  PDT
Location: K-2

 Observation:  Another  quick trip to K-2 -- this time  with  the
camera.

 "This  second trip -- brought a surprise. The burned round  mark
on  the  ground  wasn't there (the one I  had  observed  the  day
before.  The 30 foot diameter burned area). It looks like  "they"
(the  Greys)  had  removed everything that would  show  they  had
landed  there. I did some digging, but there was nothing to  show
for  it. They had replaced the ground (the burned area) with  new
soil, including the dead grass that covers the ground. They  seem
to know we are on to them, and are making it difficult for us  to
prove anything. From now on, the camera goes with me everywhere."
See Exhibits 19 and 20.

Memo August 12, 1989 From Staff # 1 To: Staff # 2

 Our contacts in the Air Force verify that on the night of August
10, 1989, at the time indicated in Report # 1 of that date,  that
eight  F-4's,  scrambled  from Beale AFB, CA. They  had  a  brief
radar-lock,  on  a "bogie" in the area described.  However,  they
lost the target, due to ground clutter when it suddenly descended
into  the mountainous terrain. They returned to the base  when  a
further sweep of the area proved fruitless.

 You're right, the AF had a blip on their radar, but lost it when
the ship dropped into that 20-mile approach corridor between  the
valleys and the radar dead zone.

* * *

Comments by Staff # 1 Date: 8/15/89, Time: 1300 PDT

 The events taking place, as described in the preceding  reports,
indicate  on-going activity at the K-2 site. This activity,  adds
weight  to  the conclusions and evidence gathered by  our  Survey
Team.  Those findings were included in the "K-2, Special  Report"
Dated  7/28/89. These recent events taking place at K-2  validate
our initial findings.

* * *

Comments by Staff # 1 Date: 8/29/89

 Observations of night-time activity at K-2, over the past month,
indicate  that  alien crafts are making supply runs at  two  week
intervals.  All of our attempts, on site, to photograph or  video
tape  their  arrival, unloading and departures have  failed.  The
aliens seem to detect our presence even though we have made every
effort to remain concealed. On two occasions, from our  concealed
location,  we have observed one of their craft making  a  landing
approach. The craft suddenly veers off, about two miles from  the
base,  and  quickly  leaves  the area.  For  both  practical  and
economic  reasons  we cannot continue this surveillance.  In  our
opinion,  we  have validated the existence of the  base  and  the
alien activity associated with this site.

* * * ADDENDUM:

6/23/92 ADDITIONAL CONCLUSION

 Previously, we mentioned the extreme curiosity exhibited by U.S.
Forest Rangers, and their barrage of questions while we conducted
the  scientific  survey of K-2 in July of 1989.  The  reason  for
their  conduct and questions became known in August of  1989  and
during  the course of subsequent investigations at K-2. Refer  to
Exhibit 21.

 As a result of the public disclosure of the Alien Base  revealed
in  this report, it will prove most interesting to  observe  what
action  is taken by any unit of the U.S. Government to deal  with
this  situation. It is doubtful they will allow an Alien Base  to
operate right under their noses.

 This  would  be an excellent occasion for the public,  in  large
numbers,  to  camp  out at the K-2 site,  use  their  home  video
cameras  to  record  what activity occurs and  whether  they  are
ordered to leave the area.

 Also, without a doubt, it is not difficult to predict a scenario
in  which well-paid and learned government experts will  proclaim
that no alien base exists at K-2. In the interim, nobody would be
surprised,  would they (??), if the area was suddenly fenced  off
by a double perimeter chain-link fence and patrolled by  security
guards.  The  public may even be denied any access to  the  area.
Now, what would that suggest to you?

 It's  something of a Catch-22 situation for the government.  Any
action  taken  to suppress the alien base will  be  revealed  and
noticed by the public, and any inction, hoping people will forget
it,  allows the aliens to continue their operations. It's  a  bad
situation  for the aliens, as well. All the publicity and  people
hanging  around the area will disrupt their activities.  Somehow,
the  term  "poetic  justice" seems  correct  in  this  situation.
Perhaps you'll agree.

K-2 DATA EXHIBIT PACKAGE

LIST OF EXHIBITS

 Exhibit 1: Quincy - La Porte Area Map.

 Exhibit  2:  Aeronautical Chart of K-2 Area  detailing  Military
Operation  Areas (MOA's) Boundaries, Radar coverage and  approach
corridors.

 Exhibit 3: Expanded Topographic Map of K-2 Site.

 Exhibit 4: Text - Detailed Magnetometer Data of K-2, Section 3.

 Exhibit  5:  K2Q3S3  (Quad 3, Section 3)  Magnetic  Field  Stats
indicating  section line numbers, line stations and  magnetometer
readings.

 Exhibits  6 A,B,C,D: K2Q3S3 Top View. Detailed Magnetic  Profile
Charts of Section 3 survey lines.

 Exhibit  7:  K2Q3S3  High-Resolution  Magnetic  Contour  Map  of
Section 3, Quad 3, indicating major underground features.

 Exhibit  7A: Text - Describing the hidden underground  parts  of
the  Alien  base,  in  the area surveyed,  and  revealed  by  the
Magnetometer Data.

 Exhibit 8: Text - K2SCARP Magnetic Data (Section 3) Re-Survey of
lines 30, 40, and 50, for expanded details of Item A, line 40.

 Exhibit  9: K2SCARP Top View, Magnetic Profile of Lines  30,  40
and 50.

 Exhibit  10:  K2SCARP  Magnetic  Contour  Map  showing  expanded
features of Item A on Lines 30, 40, and 50.

 Exhibit  11:  Photo - of a section of the  modern  blackop  road
fronting the entrance to the K-2 Site.

 Exhibit  12:  Photo  - K-2 Site entrance  road  and  portion  of
Landing Zone 1 (LZ-1).

 Exhibit 13: Photo - LZ-1 and the Alien Base.

 Exhibit 14: Photo - South end of Alien Base and LZ-2.

 Exhibit 15: Photo - The mysterious Dike and Pond.

 Exhibit  16: Photo - The Rock Scarp detailed on Line 40  of  the
magnetometer data.

 Exhibit 17: Photo - Medium view of the overall K-2 Site, landing
areas and the Alien base.

 Exhibit 18: Photo - Long View of K-2 showing the hidden approach
corridors to the site.

 Exhibit 19: Photo - Landing Zone 1 (LZ-1).

 Exhibit 20: Photo - Landing Zone 1 (LZ-1) showing landing marks.

 Exhibit 21: Text - Describing latest finding regarding K-2.

 All  of the exhibits listed in this report are contained in  the
printed  K-2  Report available from the  publisher.  All  printed
versions  of  the  Phoenix Project Special  Reports  contain  the
exhibits  referenced in the reports text. Send a  self-addressed,
stamped  envelope  to Advent Publishing Company, P.O.  Box  3748,
Carson City, Nevada 89702, for a list of Phoenix Project  Special
Reports.

SPECIAL NOTE:

 Very  recently,  the  Phoenix Project  conducted  an  undercover
investigation of the U.S. Forest Service Headquarters at  Quincy,
California.   That  investigation  has  revealed  startling   new
information. A Special "K-2 Supplemental Report," will be  issued
in  the  near  future. It will reveal this  new  information  and
contain exhibits of the evidence obtained.

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From: rodb@slugo.corp.sgi.com (Rod Beckwith)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Dulce Report - Conclusion
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Michael,

Didn't the Bill Moore get tangled up in this situation? Didn't this whole
episode cause Paul Bennewitz to have a nervous breakdown? Do you have any
further documentation on this aspect of the investigation? I for one would
like to find out where some (if not all) of the disinformation came
from.Are there any other investigations "The Phoenix Project is working on
? 

Thanks,

Rod

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From mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew) Mon Jul  6 21:12:06 1992
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From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Dulce Report - Conclusion
Message-ID: <Jul.6.21.12.05.1992.3983@dropout.rutgers.edu>
Date: 7 Jul 92 01:12:06 GMT
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	rodb@slugo.corp.sgi.com (Rod Beckwith) writes:
	Didn't the Bill Moore get tangled up in this situation? Didn't
	this whole episode cause Paul Bennewitz to have a nervous
	breakdown?

... at least one version of this tale appears in Howard Blum's "Out
There" (Simon and Schuster, NY, 1990).  I too would be interested in
comments about how correct it is.  The way its written, Blum talked
to Moore himself...

Charles

From: vjmurphy@carina.unm.edu (Phred T. Platypus)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: k-2 phoenix report (Phoenix Foundation Info!)
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In article <1992Jul7.042327.28387@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> wilbur@starfish.cps.msu.edu (Brick Wilbur) writes:
>Remember, this k-2 report could also be disinformation.
>Maybe there really is a base at DULCE, and now *they* are having us believe that
>this organization called the Phoenix Foundation (or whatever) has uncovered the
>real base in California.
>Anyone know about this Phoenix place?  OR the validity of either reports?
>

   All I know is that the Phoenix Foundation has a resourceful agent
by the name of MacGyver.  And if he's on their side...I'd be careful.

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 to drive you nuts." -- Harlan Ellison    _\_/       Vincent J. Murphy

From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Dulce Report - Conclusion
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 > Dear Michael:
 > I read all of the information that you posted and appreciated your work
 > and the work of the The Phoenix Report but I don't believe it.  It
 > doesn't
 > add up to me and I won't explain why. Your may be right and I'm wrong.
 > I hope I am wrong in this case.
 > That's all folks.
 > John Winston.

First, that was not my work, nor did I have anything to do with it.  Someone 
uploaded that material to ParaNet and I simply reposted it with permission.  I 
have found numerous problems with it myself and, although I do not necessarily 
believe that something is happening at Dulce, I think that the Phoenix 
material is just more disinformation.

Mike

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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Dulce Report - Conclusion
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 > Didn't the Bill Moore get tangled up in this situation? Didn't this
 > whole
 > episode cause Paul Bennewitz to have a nervous breakdown? Do you have
 > any
 > further documentation on this aspect of the investigation? I for one
 > would
 > like to find out where some (if not all) of the disinformation came
 > from.Are there any other investigations "The Phoenix Project is working
 > on
 > ?

Yes.  Paul Bennewitz did have some psychological problems as a result of the 
disinformation that Moore and his friends were feeding Paul, but the Dulce 
thing has never been proven, although that was the subject of the information 
that they were giving to Paul as part of the disinformation.  In that event, I 
would be suspicious as to the validity of anything being located at Dulce.  It 
is true that there have been UFO sightings at Dulce and there have been cattle 
mutilations, but that doesn't prove the existence of an underground base.

Mike

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From: Robert_Sutton@kcbbs.gen.nz (Robert Sutton)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: K2 Report - Part 3
Message-ID: <39534.190928216@kcbbs.gen.nz>
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sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer) 07 Jul 92 22:35:26 types--
>So to jump to the conclusion that space aliens are involved just because 
>you heard something strange on the shortwave is well perhaps a tad 
>premature

That's about the 1st thing I wondered when I read the post.no more was 
seen about any characteristics of the transmissions.No frequencies given 
or if others had heard & or were told of them or indeed if they were 
directly related to Pilot peak.
As for the aptly named Pilot Peak who has climbed the area.What about 
historic records & radio monitoring?.

On radio monitoring those number stations are an interesting rebuttal 
to the 3 man leak posit.
Or does Sheaffer have the good oil on who is responsible for these efforts 
& where.

BTW-WHo is Larry Eckert?.

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From: jcitro3@odin.unomaha.edu (Joe Citro III)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: K2 Report/washed Up
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I've never heard of the Pheonix Foundation (Mcgyver excluded).  I do know
that F-4's were never stationed at Beal (Spell) AFB.  The F-4's could 
possibly have came from Castle AFB which is in central California.  I question
the credibility of the supposed Air Force personel who verified that the 
F-4's came from Beal.  However, the report was a good read :)

Joseph A. Citro III at UNO
jcitro3@odin.unomaha.edu
(WHO WILL PROBABLY NEVER COME UP WITH A SIGNATURE)

From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: K2 And The Phoenix Project
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 * Forwarded from "Ask UFO Magazine"
 * Originally from David Brune
 * Originally dated 07-06-92 16:11

All,

As section leader of a UFO area on CompuServe, when we read the K2 report
from the Phoenix project we did not quite know how to take it.  Was this
another attempt at disinformation, a way to make a few bucks by getting you
to buy their printed paper, or was it for real.  So we decided to find out.

A few members of my section got together and over this 4th of July holiday
weekend decided to check things out.  What they found you may find
interesting.  This was in no way a complete check of the Phoenix groups
claims, but interesting nonetheless.  We are planning further expeditions to
the K2 area in the near future and I will keep all advises as to what we find, 
since it is of importance to us all.

If you have any questions of comments about this report, please forward them
to me, and if you have CompuServe access may I suggest checking out the New
Age Forum and the UFOlogy/Contacts section.

David Brune [70671,2063 CIS]

*****************************************************************************

David,

Well, I made it back from Pilot Mountain!  What a beautiful area.  It is remote 
and would be a good spot to try and conceal something but I saw no evidence to 
support the claims of the Phoenix report.  Keep in mind that I was there for 
only a short time (1 1/2 days) and I did not have the actual K2 report with 
maps and descriptions of where EXACTLY the LZs, base, and entrances were 
suppose to be.  When I do get the report I will more than likely make another 
trip out there just to satisfy my curiousity and keep this thing from growing 
into something it probably isn't.

I arrived in Quincy on Saturday at about 5:30am.  I then proceeded into the
Plumas Nat'l Forest via the Quincy-La Porte Road.  For the next five hours I
just drove around the dirt roads checking things out.  There is road
construction in progress complete with earth movers, bulldozers, graters, and
dump trucks.  It was a holiday so no constuction was going ons.  The existing
dirt roads were eroded, and narrow in places so, IMHO, the construction was not 
suspect.  This area skirts the Feather River and some of its off-shoots which 
is popular amoung trout fisherman.  That may be one reason the roads are being 
repaired.  Also, it appeared that logging was prevelant in the area.  Since so 
much logging in various areas thoughout CA has been restricted I can see 
logging interests putting in $$ to access areas where they are allowed to 
harvest, which is what I think is happening.

The roads are poorly marked and thus confusing to get around on.  I looked for 
most of that morning around the Pilot Peak area for the access road leading up 
to the lookout station but could not find it.  It is probably a four wheel 
drive type road and thus not evident to the passer by, which I'm sure I did 
several times.  The tower placement on top of the mtn. is perfect. It's up 
above everything and looks to offer a good view.  I decided to hike up there.

The Pacific Crest Trail passes through the area and skirts along the side of 
Pilot Peak.  The trail head is well marked at PP's base so I took it.  The 
trail was easy to follow and I took it up to the ridge where I cut off to get 
to the lookout station. The last few hundred yards were VERY steep and strewn 
with loose flagstone and gravel.  On my approach I could hear voices (kids) and 
then see some young people in the tower.  They had left by the time I got to 
the tower.  It took three hours to get there and the view alone was worth it. 
The station is abandoned and from markings in the cement appears to have been 
constucted in 1976.  It is very well built and offers an EXCELLENT view, 360 
degrees, of the surrounding area.  I can't imagine a better way to watch the 
area then in that tower.  Once up there I could see a dirt road coming up the 
mtn and stopping about 100 yards down slope.  The last part up to the tower is 
'feet only.'  I seriously considered going down the road to find where it cuts 
off from the main road below but daylight was running out. I poked around a bit 
more, took some pictures and headed back down to the trail I had come up on.

When I got back I ate and by then it was dark so I drove out to a vista point
and watched the area for whatever.  During the night I drove to different
points of view...and saw nothing unusual. The next morning I slept a bit then
hiked around PP area a bit more.

>From my cursory examination of the area I could not support the fantastic
claims made by The Phoenix Group.  However, I did not have a magnetometer,
geiger counter, or any other sofisticated equipment.  All I could do was
observe the area through an average persons eyes.  I did that and saw nothing
except a beautifully remote area.

The one odd thing I did see was at the Ranger Station in Quincy.  As I entered 
the parking lot there's a sign showing visitors where to park, employees 
parking, and one that reads "F.S. Heliport NASA."  I drove ....

over to the entrance to the "heliport" which had an open gate and a sign that
read--"No Trespassing  $500 and/or 6 months  Air Operations Restricted Area."
I could not see beyond the gate because of the forest and slope of the hill.  I 
wasn't sure if they enforced this notice but didn't want to find out right
then.  Why would NASA have a heliport way out there?  That I don't know and
couldn't find anyone to ask.

I've been too long winded already...I will get the K2 Report, find specific
locations to search and look things over again.  Any suggestions that would
enhance my efforts would be appreciated.

                                                 --Jason

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From: davoli@natinst.com (Russell J. Davoli)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: K2 Report - Part 3
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In article <139011.2A568762@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>, ParaNet.Information.Service@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (sm) writes:
> 
>  * Forwarded from "ParaNet UFO Echo"
>  * Originally from ParaNet(sm) Information Service
>  * Originally dated 07-04-92 22:09
> 
> <<..Continued from previous message>>
>
> ...
> 
>  The  site  is isolated and cut-off from general  access,  except
> from the air or the use of snowmobiles, or ski's, 6 months of the
> year  because  of heavy snow conditions. A well  constructed  and
> permanent  "fire"  lookout tower on top of Pilot Peak  (K-2)  was
> suddenly abandoned several years ago. Discussions with local U.S.
> Forest Rangers, indicate there are no intentions of ever  manning
> or  re-activating  the fire lookout station.  Budgetary  problems
> were  not a factor. The explanation given, was that  the  lookout
> was  obsolete.  Fire  spotting,  these  days,  according  to  the
> rangers, is better accomplished by patrolling aircraft.
> 
>  This explanation, (in 1989) seems suspect and insubstantial,  at
> best.  Evidence to support these claims are provided by the  fact
> that   other  fire  lookout  stations,  in  nearby   areas,   are
> operational  and manned throughout the peak summer  fire  season.
> Why is the K-2 fire lookout an exception?

I've read or heard a couple of pieces in the mainstream news lately concerning
the fire lookout towers and how these are now being rented out to people
who want to vacation in a remote spot with a great view.  According to the
reports, many of these towers were "suddenly abandoned" a few years ago for
the reason stated above.  Plus, the Forest Service or whoever owns the towers
can make a few bucks to help their budgets out this way.  The official
explanation doesn't seem the least bit suspect to me, unless you're convinced
that this bit of news is a further attempt at spreading misinformation.

Maybe you folks who really want to get to bottom of things can rent that tower
out and make your own observations.  Unless you make it known that you're
going there just to watch for the aliens, no one is going to know any better,
right?

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Subject: Rating on Dulce Report and K2 Report
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 * Forwarded from "ParaNet UFO Echo"
 * Originally from ParaNet(sm) Information Service
 * Originally dated 07-12-92 22:01

Recently we published two reports generated by the Phoenix Project, a group in
Carson City, Nevada.  These two documents allege that members of this group 
investigated reports of underground alien bases in Dulce, New Mexico, and an 
underground alien base located in the Plumas National Forest in Northern 
California.

Because of the following findings/reasons, ParaNet has assigned a high level of 
probability that the material contained in the documents is disinformation and 
is inaccurate.

The reasons are as follows:

1)  The Phoenix Project is unknown to the general UFO research community.  No 
where in any of the materials are the principals of the organization 
identified.  As is the case with any materials where substantive findings are 
reported, it demonstrates a strong lack of credibility when the names and 
addresses of the investigators are not provided.

2)  Due to an investigation that has been ongoing, we have found that the 
material on Dulce is inaccurate.  It is interesting that the Dulce report 
denies that anything exists at Dulce.  Although we have found no information to 
the contrary, we feel that the report from the Phoenix Project is inaccurate as 
to location of buildings and other factors.  There are things down there which 
are unusual.

3)  The K2 material is too ambiguous and does not provide enough reliable data 
bits to launch an investigation into the claims.  It appears that although the 
report is written with some literary license, the findings are presented in a 
very unscientific fashion.

ParaNet will provide a complete report of its investigation into the various 
other claims contained in the reports as soon as the information is available. 
We have written to the Phoenix Project requesting further information.

In the meantime, we urge caution in the use of this material.

Michael Corbin
Director
ParaNet Information Services

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 * Forwarded from "ParaNet UFO Echo"
 * Originally from ParaNet(sm) Information Service
 * Originally dated 07-26-92 23:56

Over the last few days we have been posting information supplied by the Phoenix
Project of Carson City, Nevada.  This information has been strongly disclaimed 
by ParaNet pending the results of our investigation to determine the validity 
of the Phoenix Project and its officers.

While the investigation is still ongoing, we have found some highly disturbing 
things relating to credibility of the group.  This information will be reported 
as soon as the investigation is completed.  This should be in the next few 
days.

Until this investigation is complete and the findings published, ParaNet wishes 
to urge everyone not to send any money to the group.

Michael Corbin
Director

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Subject: Report on Phoenix Project
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A  few  weeks  ago, ParaNet received on-line  copies  of  several
documents  which  purported  to come from  a  previously  unknown
organization  called  "The  Phoenix  Project".  The  project   is
described  in  the documents as a  "private,  civilian,  research
organization"  which  was  "formed in  1952  to  investigate  and
correlate information" concerning UFOs and ETs. According to  the
information contained in the documents, for a small price one can
receive  printed copies of the project's reports,  complete  with
maps,  magnetometer  readings,  and a host  of  other  supporting
charts  and diagrams which serve to make the whole endeavor  look
scientific and legitimate.

The  documents  we  received  were  formulated  as  investigative
reports  on  two  of the hottest and  most  controversial  issues
within  the UFO research community: the underground  alien  bases
which  are said to exist at numerous locations around the  United
States, and the cluster of alleged UFO-related projects sometimes
referred   to  collectively  as  "Operation   Majestic   Twelve".
Specifically, the material consisted of three separate documents:

(1)  "The  Ultimate Secret", originally dated 4 August  1989  and
revised  most  recently 5 May 1992, purporting to  lay  bare  the
inner workings of the government's secret UFO projects, including
the  recovery of alien technology and bodies from  crashed  UFOs,
the  exploitation  of this technology by a number  of  code-named
government  projects,  and the involvement of NASA  and  the  SDI
program in preparing for conflict with alien invaders;

(2) "The Dulce Report", dated 27 May 1992, describing an  on-site
investigation of the Dulce and Archuleta Mesa area in New Mexico,
which  purportedly proved beyond any doubt that there is  nothing
there  of  any  interest to UFO  researchers  despite  persistent
reports to the contrary; and

(3)  "The K-2 Report", originally dated 28 July 1989 and  revised
27  June  1992,  which purports to document the  discovery  of  a
genuine  "secret  alien base" in the Pilot Peak  area  of  Plumas
County, California.

ParaNet  quickly  reviewed  this material and posted  it  in  its
entirety  for  our  subscribers,  pursuant  to  the   permissions
attached  to  the  material by the publisher. We  also  posted  a
preliminary  evaluation  which  warned that  the  material  might
contain   inaccuracies   or   deliberate   disinformation.   This
evaluation was based on a number of factors:

(1)  much  of  the information in  "The  Ultimate  Secret"  about
Operation  Majestic  Twelve and associated  projects  is  clearly
related to, and probably derived from, earlier material which has
been   dismissed  as  worthless  by  almost  all  reputable   UFO
researchers;

(2) much of the information in "The Dulce Report" about Dulce and
the  Archuleta Mesa contradicts information already  provided  to
ParaNet by other capable investigators;

(3) some of the information in "The K-2 Report" is  intrinsically
implausible  (although, admittedly, not impossible), such as  the
claim  that a seasoned military intelligence  operative  "forgot"
his  camera when rushing to document a UFO landing site, or  that
by the next day that same landing site had been re-sodded by  the
aliens to obliterate all the evidence.

ParaNet  received the three documents as uploads from a Mr.  Jack
L. Mathias of Carson City, Nevada, who represented himself as the
sole public spokesman for the Project. But the reports themselves
name  neither the authors of the documents nor the principals  of
the  Phoenix Project. Instead, they cryptically state  that  they
are  the  work of "former military personnel who  have  all  been
associated  with intelligence activities, and have  knowledge  of
covert  government operations concerning UFO's". Given the  sorry
history of anonymous documents and "former" government agents  in
the  UFO  community, ParaNet felt it necessary to start  its  own
investigation  in an effort to determine just who was behind  the
Phoenix Project and what their motives might be.

First  we  sent  a letter to the post office box  listed  in  the
documents,  asking for further information about the  group;  but
the  letter was not answered. We corresponded by electronic  mail
with  Mr.  Mathias, who represents himself as an  agent  for  the
group,  but  he  refused to provide any  of  the  information  we
requested. So much for the direct approach.

Each document formally states that the Phoenix Project logo is  a
registered  trademark (presumably in the state of  Nevada,  since
that  is where their mailing address is located), so we  tried  a
query to the Nevada trademark office in Carson City. That  office
informed us that the state of Nevada has no record of any current
trademarks  under the "Phoenix Project" name. They did  say  that
articles  of  incorporation  were filed under  the  name  of  the
Phoenix  Project on 25 August 1988 by a Mr. Thomas Naylor of  Las
Vegas, Nevada. However, the corporation failed to file the  names
and  addresses  of  its officers by 1 July 1989  as  required  by
Nevada law, as a result of which the incorporation was revoked by
the Nevada Secretary of State. And so we reached another apparent
dead  end,  except for one bit of trivia uncovered by  a  ParaNet
investigator in Las Vegas: An attorney named Thomas C. Naylor had
recently moved into an office building at 2810 West Charleston in
Las Vegas.

Next we contacted the U.S. Postal Service in Carson City,  Nevada
to determine the box holder for the Phoenix Project's  publisher,
Advent  Publishing  Company.  We  were  told  that  the  box  was
registered  to a Richard T. Miller, whose address was given as  a
mobile-home park in Carson City. Following this, we contacted the
Clerk and Recorder's office in Carson City, and determined that a
Richard  Miller is listed with them as the legal owner of  Advent
Publishing.  However, the telephone number they gave us  for  Mr.
Miller has been disconnected, and directory assistance was unable
to provide a new one. Another brick wall.

To  this  point,  all attempts to verify  the  Phoenix  Project's
legitimacy  using conventional methods had proved futile,  so  we
decided  to  try  a  different  approach.  The  Phoenix   Project
explicitly and emphatically disclaims affiliation with any  other
groups  using the name "Phoenix". And just to make sure  everyone
gets  the  message, each document states at  the  beginning  that
"[i]n particular, there is no affiliation with a publisher  known
as  America  West, any of its publications,  or  the  individuals
known  as George and Desiree Green". Unfortunately,  ParaNet  has
uncovered  evidence  that these disclaimers may  be  intended  to
conceal rather than to illuminate.

America West, it turns out, is the publisher of a magazine called
the   Phoenix  Liberator,  which  carries  large  quantities   of
channelled material alleged to originate with an entity from  the
Pleiades known as "Hatonn". The Phoenix Liberator has come  under
fire recently from some in the UFO community as anti-Semitic  and
neo-fascist. (See, for example, "Hatonn's World: A Neo-Nazi  ET?"
by Don Ecker in the July/August 1992 issue of UFO Magazine.)  But
"Hatonn"  and his defenders vehemently deny the charge,  and  the
whole affair has been widely and rather nastily trumpeted both on
the net and in print.

It  seems  that until recently America West  Publishers  and  the
Phoenix Liberator were operated out of Tehachapi, California. But
a  few days ago one of ParaNet's subscribers uploaded a  response
from "Hatonn" to Don Ecker, which he said he had pulled down from
the  Phoenix Liberator BBS; and with it he posted a  new  address
for  the Liberator. That address was all too familiar: 2810  West
Charleston  Boulevard, Las Vegas, Nevada--the same  building,  it
seems,  where  an attorney named Thomas Naylor also has  his  new
office.

And then another strange coincidence: A posting coming across the
Internet  stated  that  before "Hatonn"  channelled  through  his
current  host,  he  used to convey his  messages  through  a  Mr.
Richard  Miller, who started an organization which was  known  as
the  Solar  Cross and which was apparently a  forerunner  of  the
Phoenix  Liberator. Is this the same Richard Miller who owns  the
Phoenix Project's publisher, Advent Publishing Company?

We do not yet know if the Thomas Naylor who tried to  incorporate
the  Phoenix  Project is the same Thomas  Naylor  who  apparently
shares  2810 West Charleston with the new offices of the  Phoenix
Liberator.  We  do not yet know if the Richard  Miller  who  owns
Advent Publishing is the same Richard Miller who reportedly  once
channelled "Hatonn". In short, we do not yet know if the  Phoenix
Project  is truly an independent organization, or merely  another
incarnation of America West Publishers and the Phoenix Liberator.
But  the coincidences are certainly striking and suggestive.  And
in  light of this we again urge extreme caution in  dealing  with
the  Phoenix  Project material, until such time as  a  definitive
assessment of the Project's motives and reliability can be made.

ParaNet  will  keep you advised of our findings  as  they  become
available. If you have any information about the Phoenix Project,
especially  regarding its possible relationship with the  Phoenix
Liberator  or America West Publishers, please send it to  Michael
Corbin  by  Internet mail to mcorbin@paranet.org; by  Fidonet  to
1:104/422;  by U.S. Mail to P.O. Box 172, Wheat Ridge, CO  80034-
0172; or by phone at 303-431-8796.

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From: gvb@TEFS1.acd.com (Gregg Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: K-2 Radio Transmission
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Date: 7 Aug 92 14:14:49 GMT
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In article <1992Aug6.155726.2040@ryn.mro4.dec.com> randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug5.172556.14834@acd4.acd.com>, gvb@TEFS1.acd.com (Gregg Brown) writes...
>>I have just received the K-2 Radio Transmission recording. Its on a 60 
>>Gregg.
>
>How about a summary? Anything worth hearing?
>
>-Tom R.randolph@est.enet.dec.com


(click,click,click,click,click,click,thum-thump) at 1 cps for approx 12 min.

click/thump fades to:

(wwwwwoooooooowwwwwwwwwoooooooowwwwwwww) at about 1 cps

with a 

...oooooowwwwwwtinklewwwwwooooo...     about every 6 seconds (varies)

for about 30 minutes. wowowowow starts getting faster and faster (up to
about 5-10 wowow's a second) At that point the inherent tone of the wowow's
drops from about 500 hertz to 300 herts. The wowow's inherent pitch pick right
back up but volume is somewhat subdued. You then start (only way I could 
describe) hearing "whalelike" sounds in the backgound. The wowowow's are 
still present and start slowing back down to their original 1 cps speed.
Relative predominence of wowow and whale's song alternate for short period
of time. Tinkles are still present and have never faded but vary in their
frequency of appearance. This sequence goes for about 12 min. and then at
the last part of side two there is a definit "edit splice". What is 
put on the tape to the end is the wowowowow at 1 cps with the
oooowwwwwtinklewwwwoooo's in it. This goes on for another 4 or 5 minutes.

What is it you ask? Well, I find it very enjoyable to listen to. Makes me
very relaxed. Helps my tension headaches. From what I know of radio,
the click/thum-thump stuff could be over the horizon radar or an ionospheric
sounder. I wish they had flipped on the BFO during reception for a little
while, I could have determined either. The reciever was kept on AM the
entire time. Its kinda eerie to listen too. Especially the later parts.

Anyone else heard this tape? Help me be more accurate in my descriptions 
if you can. Its hard to explain wowow's and clickthum-thump's in a message.
 
Gregg.

From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Observations at Pilot Peak
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 * Forwarded from "ParaNet UFO Echo"
 * Originally from Michael Corbin
 * Originally dated 24 Aug 92   0:43:51

Our special thanks to John Pickens, who conducted an independent investigation
of the Phoenix Project's claims of an underground alien base in Northern 
California.  As you will read, John's report clearly shows that the K2 report 
is definitely questionable.


 * Forwarded from John Pickens, 205/300
 * Originally to Michael Corbin
 * Originally dated 23 Aug 92 21:46:55

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REFLECTIONS ON THE K2 REPORT & OBSERVATIONS AT PILOT PEAK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Having read the Phoenix Project's K2 report and having visited the
Pilot Peak area I offer some of my impressions and observations.

Animal Sounds:  The K2 Report suggests there is curious lack of
animal sounds and indicated there is an unnatural quiet in the
area.

Having spent 2 nights in the immediate area in question I can say
there was nothing I observed, either by night or by day, to support
this contention.  The level of animal sounds was consistent with
what I have heard in other forested areas.


Animal Life:  The K2 report makes much of the fact that there was
an absence of animal life in the area (this additionally supported
by the claim of lack of animal sounds).  In particular the report
comments on the apparent absence of squirrels, chipmunks, rodents,
owls and birds flying over the area.

On my first night at the Pilot Peak area I spent the night at a
spot over looking the location of the "landing zones."  I had an
unobstructed view of the area.  I was there while the Moon was
still below the eastern horizon and I used a high-powered spotlight
to illuminate the area.  I saw no less than two (possibly three)
deer - one of which was very close by, if not on, one of the
"landing zones."  Throughout the night, owls could be heard
hooting.  During the day birds could be seen flitting about the
meadow that contained the "landing zones" and both squirrels and
chipmunks were easily seen.  At the very top of Pilot Peak there is
a lookout station which I explored.  There I found two exhausted
boxes of D-Con rodent killer and rodent droppings in the first and
second floors of the station - clearly evidence of rodents.
Another variety of rodent - bats - were seen in no small numbers
around the Pilot Peak area.

I will comment on the K2 report itself concerning their claim of
absence of animal life and animal sounds.  I found it a curious
contradiction that one of their observers (and I do not recall how
they identified him/her, it was perhaps Contact #2, but it was the
one who forgot their camera and had to come back the next day to
make photographs) indicated that there was a sighting of a UFO and
once it came into view all the animal noises ceased.  I have to
ask - if there was a curious and noteworthy lack of animal sounds
how could they cease?


Landing Zones:  Having seen the purported "landing zones"
personally, and in some cases having walked over them, I have to
say there seems to be a more prosaic explanation.  There was an
abundance of deer tracks throughout the area.  It is not
unreasonable to assume these are places where deer have rested.  I
found it odd that in the midst of the flattened grass there was, in
some instances, a variety of tall weed that was still standing,
unbent, in the area of flattened grass.  In addition, the "landing
zones" exhibited none of the swirling patterns associated with UFO
"nests" or the more recent crop circles.  Very low strangeness
index and certainly subject to more "Earthly" explanation than
landed craft.  I also found other, smaller, areas of flattened
grass which looked exactly like the purported "landing zones" but
which could clearly be discounted as such.


There are two other factors which weigh heavily against these areas
being "landing zones" which I will address next.


Camping Area:  Far from being the desolate area one might imagine
from reading the K2 report there is a camping area immediately
adjacent to the "landing zones."  To the southwest, and just behind
a moderately dense stand of trees, this camping area did not remain
unoccupied during the time of my visit.  On the first night there
were three carloads of people camping and on the second night there
was one family there.  The area of the "landing zones" is easily
seen from this camping area and access to the "landing zones" from
the camping area is immediate.  It is not the sort of area one
would choose if one wanted any sort of privacy.  In addition, the
area of the "landing zones" is clearly seen from the road which
passes nearby and the view from the road is unobstructed, save for
two small trees, for over a quarter mile of travel.


The Road:  The report mentions a road which passes the K2 site.
This is not the unused and long-forgotten road one would envision
from reading the K2 report.  Quite the contrary.  During the day
logging trucks, pick-up trucks, residents of the La Porte & Quincy
areas and campers travel this road.  While it will never resemble
rush hour, I was somewhat surprised at the number of vehicles
traveling that road as I thought we were well off the beaten track.

At night the traffic is much less active.  The first night there
was no traffic from 9 PM until 4:15 AM the next morning.  The
second night there was traffic on and off throughout the night.
Again, the meadow with the "landing zones" is clearly and
unmistakably visible from the road.


Forest Service:  The K2 report alludes to the Forest Service
personnel being mind-controlled minions of the Greys and says they
were questioned about their reasons for being there.  The report
paints a picture of the Forest Service watching their every move
and questioning their every action.  I found quite the opposite to
be the case.  Not once did the Forest Service exhibit the slightest
interest in what I was doing - even when I passed a Forest Service
truck on the mine road (a dirt road that leads right to the base of
the summit of Pilot Peak).  The only reaction I received from the
Forest Service was a smile and a wave as they drove past in their
trucks.

My observations cover a brief period of time - from the evening of
Wednesday, August 19 to the morning of Friday, August 21.  My
comments and observations can be verified and confirmed by Mr. Ed
Stuart who accompanied me to Pilot Peak.

As Ed has asked, "If the facts we CAN verify are false then are the
facts we CAN'T verify false?"  To which I must reply, not
necessarily, but they are certainly called into question.

Other lines of inquiry come to mind.  IS the corridor from the west
to Pilot Peak actually RADAR blind as put forth by the Phoenix
Project K2 report?  I'm sure any ATC person from the area can
answer that easily enough.

I also think a discussion with Forest Service personnel is in
order.  Are they aware that some of their members are being
presented as unwitting allies of the Greys?  Did they have occasion
to question the activities of a group of people investigating the
Pilot Peak area?  Has there ever been a female member of their
team, and if so, who was she?  And if so, what does she think of
the seduction for information scenario as described by the K2
report?

I think I'm ready to go ask some questions.

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From: ParaNet.Information.Service@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (ParaNet Information Service)
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Subject: Richard T. Miller/Phoenix Project
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 * Forwarded from "ParaNet UFO Echo"
 * Originally from ParaNet Information Service
 * Originally dated 08-20-92 13:12

Below is a response that came through Jack Mathias, allegedly written by
Richard T. Miller, explaining his relationship to George Green's Phoenix 
Liberator and the Phoenix Project.  Please note that this Richard Miller is the 
Richard Miller who was associated with George Green, and *may* still be, 
however according to his admission, he is no longer affilated with Green.

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>From  scicom!ncar!compuserve.com!72730.3636
From: 72730.3636@CompuServe.COM (Jack L Mathias)
To:   ">INTERNET:Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.fidonet.org"
<Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.fidonet.org>
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:51:01 EDT

August 12, 1992

To:  Mr. Michael Corbin
    ParaNet Information Service

From:  Advent Publishing Company and
      Richard T. Miller

A message from you, made public on many BBS's and pertaining mainly
to the Phoenix Project, was brought to my attention.  In that
message you mention my name, the name of my company, and try to
create an impression that I am involved in some type of activity
and have relationships with others that is questionable.

You state in your message: "based on striking and suggestive
circumstances," that there is a possible connection between myself,
Advent Publishing Company, and another publisher - known as America
West and one of their publications "The Phoenix Liberator."  You
fail to clearly label your statements, or your presumptions, as
"pure" speculation.  I find your technique of using such
speculation, and the end-result of that usage - guilt by
implication - very offensive.

The statement I refer to is - whether I am, or my company is,
another incarnation of America West and their people. The answer is
an emphatic - no.

Let me set the record straight.  I am a semi-retired electronic and
radio and television broadcast engineer.  I am also the sole owner
of Advent Publishing Company.  This Company is registered as a sole
proprietorship, in Carson County, State of Nevada. I operate this
business to occupy my spare time and to supplement my retirement
income.  Neither myself, or my Company has any connection with
America West Publishing, their publication the "Phoenix Liberator,"
or any of their numerous publications.  I do not know them, and I
have never had any dealings with them.

It should be perfectly clear and very obvious from what I've
stated, that I find the activities of America West and the content
of the "Phoenix Liberator" thoroughly disgusting.  And that, Mr.
Corbin, is the overwhelming reason for my use of a strong
disclaimer, disavowing any relationship or affiliation with the
above named organization, its publications, and their known
principals.

You also raise the question as to whether I am the same Richard
Miller who, many years ago, communicated with an individual known
as Hatonn and started an organization known as the Solar Cross.

My answer may startle you.  Yes I am, and yes I did.  However, I
have not been active in such activities for many years. I am
answering this question only because of your attempt to make an
onerous association between myself and America West, and the
"Phoenix Liberator."  An association that doesn't exist.

I can state, however, without reservation, that the "Phoenix
Liberator" is fraudulently using the name Hatonn and claiming he is
the source of their information.  They have used the name of a
respected Being as a "drawing card" to entice the innocent and lend
a degree of credibility to the rubbish they publish.

I am not the only one who might feel this way.  In closing let me
quote a paragraph in a message sent to Jack Mathias by Don Allen,
regarding America West and the "Phoenix Liberator," on Fido_UFO:

"Jack - Received your message and here is something to mull over.
Just remember that people who claim to channel "Higher Entities"
should be judged not only on their words, but also by their actions
and ethics.  I have read a considerable amount of "Hatonn's"
material and it does not leave me feeling edified, uplifted or
enlightened.  It is very condemnatory.  It is, I submit, not of the
Light.  These aren't the words of a "Christed being"...they are
Cooperish rantings from quick buck con artists and most likely the
"entity" that Dharma" is "channelling" (If "Hatonn" exists at all)
is most definitely some lower/dark astral being.  By their fruits
ye shall know them."

RTM

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From: ParaNet.Information.Service@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (ParaNet Information Service)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Our Response to Phoenix Project
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 * Forwarded from "ParaNet UFO Echo"
 * Originally from ParaNet Information Service
 * Originally dated 08-20-92 13:23

On 6 August 1992, ParaNet Information Service posted a preliminary
statement on our investigation into an organization known as the
Phoenix Project, which had recently released "investigative reports"
entitled "The Dulce Report", "The K-2 Report", and "The Ultimate
Secret".  In our statement we pointed out some apparent problems with
all three Phoenix Project reports, as well as some suspicious aspects
of the Project's organization itself.  In our conclusion, we issued a
warning not to take the Phoenix Project reports at face value, pending
further investigation.

On 10 August 1992, Jack Mathias of the Phoenix Project responded in a
long, rambling message posted to a number of bulletin boards and news
groups.  Unfortunately, rather than dealing with the substantive issues
raised in our previous postings regarding the project and its
publications, Mr. Mathias's statement consisted mostly of ad-hominem
attacks impugning the motives, integrity, and competence of ParaNet's
officers and investigators.  Here is some typical language excerpted
from the Phoenix Project statement:

  " ... you blew it ..."
  " ... a snap judgement without examining the evidence ..."
  " ... your spontaneous and instant negative reaction ..."
  " ... your attitude problem ..."
  " ... you abused your position of trust and responsibility ..."
  " ... inexcusable ... a new record for prejudice ..."
  " ... you've just won the Golden Fleece Award ..."
  " ... outstanding ineptness ..."
  " ... amateur sleuthing ..."
  " ... self-centered ..."
  " ... lacking any real expertise ..."
  " ... seated upon your starry throne ..."
  " ... elected yourself to be the final arbiter of the truth ..."
  " ... Judge, Jury, and Executioner ..."
  " ... Kangaroo Court Proceeding of your own fashioning ..."
  " ... arm-chair expertise ..."
  " ... laughable ..."

Following paragraph after paragraph of this kind of personal invective,
Mr. Mathias then suggests that:

PP> In our opinion, the public deserves the truth regarding the real
PP> story of UFO's, government involvement and the Alien threat.  That
PP> should be our objective. ...  Perhaps you'll agree that, that
PP> objective is more productive than entertaining the public via the
PP> BBS links with a side-show of petty squabbles and bickering
PP> between individuals and organizations.

This is a noble sentiment, and one which we at ParaNet wholeheartedly
agree with.  Hopefully in the future the Phoenix Project's
representatives will take some of their own advice and try to keep the
rhetoric down to a more civilized level.

Having said that, let's look at the actual issues raised by this latest
salvo from the Phoenix Project, and see how they stack up.

PP> Let us review the facts.  You reacted by issuing a public warning
PP> to the members of ParaNet, which was also widely distributed via
PP> other BBS's nation-wide. That warning contained language which
PP> implied the information, and the source, were highly suspect.
PP> Thus, single-handedly, you created a strong impression throughout
PP> the UFO community, that our information was false.  Many sincere
PP> people, trusting your qualifications, accepted your warning.

True.

PP> You took it upon yourself to make a snap judgement
PP> without examining the evidence.

False.  We did not arrive at our conclusion single-handedly or
instantaneously.  Our analysis and the resulting warning were the
products of considerable discussion among ParaNet's researchers and
subscribers.  They were also labeled as tentative, pending further
investigation.

PP> In your message, you mention that you wrote to the Phoenix Project,
PP> after the fact and your preliminary judgement, requesting further
PP> information.  You made the same comment in other BBS messages.  You
PP> state that we did not respond to your request.  You also imply, by
PP> insinuation, that this is a mark against us and a further
PP> indication that we are suspect.  ... To date we have
PP> not received your letter of inquiry.  Apparently, of all the mail
PP> we receive, your letter is the only one that has gone astray.  We
PP> can only conclude that is was either lost in the mail or you didn't
PP> mail it.  Did it ever occur to you to mail us a second request,
PP> when you did not receive a response to your first inquiry?

The letter was followed up with electronic mail to the Project's
spokesman, Jack Mathias.  The request for information was repeated
through that channel.  The request was refused.

PP> But, this was not the end of your attitude problem regarding the
PP> Phoenix Project.  You did the same thing, again, issuing warnings,
PP> etc., with our release of the K-2 and the Ultimate Secret Reports.
PP> And, again, you had not seen or examined the supporting documents
PP> at the time you issued those warnings to ParaNet and the public.

We have already stated our reasons for suspecting the "K-2" and
"Ultimate Secret" reports.  As with the "Dulce" report, our suspicions
went to the core of the entire concept and execution of both reports;
consequently, it seemed unlikely that the "supporting documents" would
make much difference.  Our judgement in this matter was borne out when
we received the "supporting documents" from another source.  We were
not impressed.

PP> Would we be out of line in concluding that your mind was
PP> already made-up?

Yes, that would be out of line, since our minds were not and in fact
are not yet entirely made up.  Our warnings were tentative, and in our
view totally justified.  So far we have not been provided with any
evidence to the contrary.  If such evidence is provided, we will not
only change our minds but say so publicly.

PP> Fortunately, for the UFO Movement, other
PP> investigators and researchers don't share your opinion.

That's not the feedback we've been getting.

PP> You state in your initial message that "much of the information in
PP> the Dulce Report about Dulce and the Archuleta Mesa contradicts
PP> information already provided to ParaNet by other capable
PP> investigators."  What information?  Who provided it?  How did you
PP> determine its validity?

Our information consists of the testimony of ParaNet investigators and
others who have been in Dulce and on the Mesa.  Their experiences were
very different from what you describe, and it is difficult to reconcile
your claims with the findings of our own people.

PP> We formally request access to that
PP> information.  We'd like to examine it ourselves.  Can we obtain
PP> copies of "that" information?

Our investigation continues, and the information will be made public
when it is complete  At that time we will be glad to provide you with a
complimentary copy of our report.

PP> Now, let us get to the main thrust of your message - your
PP> investigation to reveal the personnel of the Phoenix Project.
PP>
PP> [several paragraphs of meaningless abuse deleted]
>
PP> What, if anything, is the Phoenix Project guilty of?  Is it the
PP> fact that we dared to question and investigate two of the sacred
PP> cows of UFO-dom namely the ones you mentioned, i.e., "underground
PP> alien bases, and the cluster of government projects referred to
PP> collectively as Operation Majestic Twelve?"

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No.  ParaNet has long questioned both of those sacred cows.  To this
point we have seen no acceptable proof for the existence of any
underground alien base near Dulce, nor have we seen adequate proof for
the existence of "Operation Majestic Twelve".  We have publicly stated
as much on many occasions.

PP> According to our sources within the intelligence community, the
PP> Dulce Scam, perpetrated by the disinformation specialists of MAJI,
PP> better known to you as Majestic Twelve with help from the CIA and
PP> NSA, is considered one of their most brilliant success stories.

But, of course, these "sources" cannot be named, and all we have to go
on is your word that they even exist.  And, unfortunately, you are
making a concerted effort to keep anyone from knowing who *you* are,
either.  Anonymous stories relayed by anonymous story tellers.  Sorry,
but that's not "evidence".

PP> We sent in experienced investigators, not amateurs, to check out
PP> the alleged Dulce Base.  Those people knew what to look for, how to
PP> look for it, how to get answers, and are not easily mislead.

We have no evidence for this except your say-so.

PP> If you do not agree with our findings, get off your posterior, go
PP> to Dulce, and check it out for yourself.

We have.

PP> In fact, we invite
PP> anybody to do the same thing.  We're sure you'll find exactly what
PP> we did ...

We didn't.

PP> You imply that you're good at asking questions -- how are you at
PP> answering them?  We have a few questions ... Would you mind sharing
PP> with all of us, everyone on the BBS's and the public, what hard
PP> evidence you have that, without question, supports the presence and
PP> validity of the Dulce Base.

Would you mind sharing what hard evidence you have that we ever said
anything of the kind?  We have never said anything in support of the
presence of a secret alien base at Dulce.  In point of fact, we
consider it extremely unlikely that any such base exists--at Dulce or
anywhere else.  That's one of the reasons we have so much trouble with
your "K-2" report, which purports to document the existence of just
such a base in California.

PP> Unless you have irrefutable
PP> evidence to present, made available for public scrutiny and
PP> evaluation, which invalidates the findings of the Phoenix Project
PP> regarding Dulce, K-2, or the Ultimate Secret, or our future
PP> reports, back off.  Either put-up or shut-up.  In other words, get
PP> off our back.

All right, challenge accepted.  Let's start with this statement from
your "Ultimate Secret" report:

PP> According to eye-witness testimony, the CIA
PP> agent in charge of this covert operation, wearing the
PP> uniform of an AF Colonel, was William C. Cooper. ...
PP> This witness testifies that this is the
PP> same William C. Cooper, who has been prominent since 1988
PP> in the civilian UFO movement.

Is this "William C. Cooper" supposed to be the famous Bill Cooper we
have all come to know so well?  Apparently so.  Unfortunately, in his
own published documents Bill Cooper gives his full name as "Milton
William Cooper", not "William C. Cooper".  Either Cooper doesn't know
his own name, or the Phoenix Project's "eye witness" doesn't know what
he's talking about.

And while we're on the subject of Bill Cooper, it is instructive to
compare some of the text of the Phoenix Project's "Ultimate Secret"
document with some of Bill Cooper's material on the same subject.
Cooper writes in his "Operation Majority--Final Release":

BC> [Project Grudge] was financed by CIA confidential
BC> funds (nonappropriated)
BC> and money from the illicit drug trade ...
BC> The purpose of Project Grudge
BC> was to collect all scientific, technological, medical and
BC> intelligence information from UFO/IAC sightings and
BC> contacts with alien life forms.  This orderly file of
BC> collected information has been used to advance the United
BC> States Space Program.

Now look at the corresponding paragraph of the Phoenix Project's
"Ultimate Secret" report:

PP> Project Aquarius was funded by CIA confidential
PP> funds (non-appropriated) ...
PP> The purpose of Project Aquarius
PP> was to collect all scientific, technological, medical and
PP> intelligence information from UFO/IAC sightings and
PP> contacts with alien lifeforms. This orderly file of
PP> collected information has been used to advance the United
PP> States' Space Program and provided the data needed to
PP> develop present stealth technology.

You don't have to be an intelligence agent to see that these two
passages are virtually identical in both content and phrasing.  Since
Cooper's statement is dated 10 January 1989, more than half a year
before the "Ultimate Secret" report's "origination" date of 4 August
1989, we seem to be left with three possibilities:  (1) Cooper was
somehow privy to the Phoenix Project's investigative results even
before they were first put to paper; or, (2) the Phoenix Project
plagiarized Cooper's writings; or (3) the Phoenix Project's own
investigations drew on the same tainted and discredited sources as
Cooper apparently did in compiling his own materials.  Whichever one
you pick, it's not a pretty picture.

But it gets worse:

PP> The basic information revealing the existence of
PP> Operation Majestic-12, the crashed UFOs, alien beings,
PP> and their secret bases within the United States, was
PP> obtained through the Freedom of Information Act from the
PP> files of the CIA, NSA, FBI, State Department, the U.S.
PP> Air Force.

This is utter nonsense, as any perusal of published FOIA documents on
UFOs would quickly reveal.  FOIA requests have forced the government to
disgorge many hundreds of pages of UFO documents over the years, but
they provide little if any support for the existence of Operation
Majestic Twelve, crashed saucers, alien beings, or secret bases.  If
the Phoenix Project is relying on already published documents as their
source for this claim (e.g., "The UFO Cover-UP" by Lawrence Fawcett and
Barry Greenwood, or "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good), then clearly
they have not examined them very carefully.  On the other hand, if the
project really does have such explosive FOIA documents in its
possession, let's see them; their publication would do more to
establish the project's credibility than anything else it could
possibly do short of producing a live alien.

PP> PROJECT GRUDGE:  This project was originally
PP> established in 1953, by order of President Eisenhower and
PP> is under the control of the CIA, NSA, and MAJI.  Project
PP> Grudge went underground and another project, Project
PP> Sign, was established as a cover operation.   In 1960, the
PP> Project's name was changed from Project SIGN to Project
PP> Bluebook.

This is demonstrably and totally wrong.  Project Sign was established
first, in 1947, and it was under the control of the Air Force, not the
CIA.  The name was changed to Project Grudge in 1949, and to Blue Book
in 1952-- not 1960.  (For details, see "The Report on Unidentified
Flying Objects" by Edward J. Ruppelt, who headed the project from 1951
to 1953.)  The exact dates slide around a little bit depending on
whether you're talking about when the decision was made, when the order
was signed, or when the order became effective; but the differences are
on the order of months, not decades!  How could the Phoenix Project's
experienced intelligence agents make so many ludicrous errors in a
single paragraph?

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Subject: Phoenix Response - Conclusion
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<<..Continued from previous message>>

In fact, this whole business was such an embarrassing mess that the
Phoenix Project issued a "correction" document to try to straighten it
out.  But, ironically, the correction is also wrong--just less
obviously so.

We could go on, but I think you get the point.  The "Ultimate Secret"
report is, at best, a rehash of other people's garbage.  At worst, it
is a deliberate effort to confuse and disinform.

PP> We actively encourage other serious investigators to use the
PP> information we have provided as a basis for conducting their own
PP> inquiry and to carry-on our effort.  Can you, Mr. Corbin, or
PP> ParaNet, or Mufon, make the same claim.  Or, is it true that the
PP> results of critical investigations are held sacred by the elite
PP> leadership of these organizations, and are not shared with the
PP> member's of their organizations or the public?

We can't speak for other organizations, but in the case of ParaNet we
have always made our results public as soon as our investigations are
complete.

PP> In your message, you insinuate that because of our past military
PP> and intelligence backgrounds, our area of expertise so-to-speak,
PP> that the motives of the Phoenix Project are suspect.  You further
PP> insinuate that we are possibly government operatives attempting to
PP> send serious researchers off on a variety of wild goose chases.

Given the prior history of government disinformation in ufology, most
of it purveyed by active or former intelligence agents and their
victims, anyone who (1) purports to have a military intelligence
background, (2) refuses to divulge their identity, and (3) propagates
known disinformation as reliable intelligence (whether deliberately or
not) should expect his motives to be considered suspect until proven
otherwise.  It is extremely naive of you to think it would happen any
other way.

PP> If anyone needed assurance that the truth regarding UFO's will
PP> remain a deep, dark, secret -- they can rest secure in the
PP> knowledge that you, are on the job.  There are any number of
PP> government agencies who would welcome you with open arms.
PP> Expect some offers.

Sorry, none so far.  We'll let you know if we get any.

PP> We are sure that the honest and sincere members of ParaNet and
PP> other UFO investigative organizations (and there are many) must be
PP> seriously considering whether your qualifications, fitness and
PP> investigative ability warrant your continuance in a position of
PP> leadership within what used to be a respected research
PP> organization.

Exactly the opposite, actually.  Most of our people are grateful for
the warning, and are coming to the same conclusions as we did.

PP> Instead of making an honest attempt to validate or
PP> disprove our findings regarding the subjects mentioned -- missing
PP> the point completely, you chose to become obsessed with determining
PP> the identity of Phoenix Project personnel. For what reason?  Do you
PP> intend to judge the validity of the information based on the
PP> credentials of those providing it?  Some people would interpret
PP> that as putting the cart before the horse.

And some people would interpret it as a determination not to fall prey
to the same fate as far too many others in this field, who trusted
strangers too easily and ended up wasting years chasing wild geese--or
worse.

PP> Explain to us how or
PP> why the credentials of our investigators, or their identity, have
PP> any bearing on the validity of the information.  Either the
PP> information is true or it isn't.  It's as simple as that, or does
PP> that simple fact escape you.

The credentials of your investigators have a strong bearing on whether
or not it is even worth the trouble to examine your "information".
Anybody can sit down for a few hours at a word processor and cook up
reams of tittilating "information" about almost any subject under the
sun.  But unless there is good reason to think there might be something
to it, it's a fool's errand to try to chase it all down.

It's like this:  If ordinary claims come from an anonymous source, they
may be assigned some measure of trust simply because they accord with
everyday experience.  If extraordinary claims come from a reputable
source, they may be assigned some measure of trust simply because of
the proven track record of the person making the claims.  But when
extraordinary claims originate from an anonymous source, they generally
are given no credence at all, because there is simply no reason to
believe they are true.  Life is too short to chase every wild goose
that comes cackling along.  There must be *some* reason--either in the
plausibility of the claim or the authority of the claimant--to think
it's worth the trouble.  You have provided neither one.

PP> How can we, or others, be assured of your motives. One does
PP> not need a brilliant mind to envision a scenario where the
PP> information the Phoenix Project has released is discredited because
PP> of an act of character assignation.

Please explain what "character assignation" is, and then maybe we can
envision the scenario you have in mind.

PP> Suppose we asked these questions -- would you be prepared to
PP> respond to them?  Who are you?  What are your credentials?  Who are
PP> those holding positions of leadership in ParaNet?  What are their
PP> qualifications and credentials?  How do we know that you or ParaNet
PP> are not controlled by government operatives?  What qualifications
PP> are required to hold a position of leadership within ParaNet?

There has never been any secret about what ParaNet is or who it
consists of.  Lists of ParaNet nodes and their sysops have been posted
to the net on several occasions.  Anyone who wants to follow the
ParaNet BBS echoes can log in to a local ParaNet node, receive the echo
digests over the net, or download them from our FTP archives.  All
postings are signed with the user name and node ID of the originator.
All articles in Continuum, ParaNet's quarterly magazine, are signed by
the authors.  I'm sorry to disappoint you, but neither our personnel
nor our purposes are in any way secret or mysterious.

PP> We were unaware that anyone had ever attempted to create a
PP> corporation in Nevada calling itself the Phoenix Project.  Due to
PP> the nature of our work, and to protect the identity of our
PP> personnel it would be a foolish endeavor. We never made an attempt
PP> to incorporate our organization in any State.

The incorporation issue originally came up because we were trying to
track down your trademark registration.  We have been unable to find
any such registration, yet at the beginning of each of your reports you
explicitly state that "all publications of the "Phoenix Project" bear
the Project's Logo (a registered trade-mark)."  Is that a lie?  It
certainly seems that a trademark registration of the project logo would
be almost as much of a threat to "the identity of your personnel" as
incorporation would be.

PP> You suggest a possible link between our organization and America
PP> West.  Sorry about that, but you're dead wrong.  It has come to us
PP> from several sources that we're not on their list of favorite
PP> people.  We will take this opportunity to categorically deny that
PP> we have any affiliation with America West, their publication the
PP> "Phoenix Liberator," or any other publication they provide.
PP>
PP> Do not expect us to respond to the other coincidences,
PP> suppositions, insinuations or innuendoes contained in your message.

Why?  Perhaps because there are other "insinuations" that cannot be
truthfully denied?  As a matter of fact, we now have solid confirmation
of another one of our "insinuations"--i.e., the fact that the Richard
Miller who owns Advent Publishing is indeed the same Richard Miller who
used to channel "Hatonn".  That confirmation came from none other than
Mr. Miller himself.  So I guess we're not doing too badly.

In consideration of your explicit denials of any ties to America West,
and in view of the additional information provided privately by Mr.
Miller, we withdraw our previous suggestion of possible connections
between the Phoenix Project and the America West/Phoenix Liberator
operation.  As we stated before, those suggestions were tentative
pending further investigation, and further investigation has not
uncovered any additional evidence to support them.  Unfortunately, this
is the kind of burden that the Phoenix Project inevitably took on when
it chose to publicly portray itself as a clandestine organization.

PP> Since you brought up America West and The "Phoenix Liberator," why
PP> not turn your investigative abilities loose on their organization.
PP> Just suppose that Milton Cooper is, quietly, linked to their
PP> organization. That should intrigue you.

It does, if true.  We also find it intriguing that you are, apparently,
using Cooper's material without attributing it to him--thereby lending
it credibility when there is every indication that it is completely
bogus.

PP> Equally intriguing, is
PP> where their funding comes from - not the obvious subscription
PP> income - the covert funding.  Or, how about the busy and numerous,
PP> off premise, writers that prepare the volumes of "Hatonn" material,
PP> and their use of high-speed modems to provide the copy for each
PP> weekly issue of the "Phoenix Liberator" and the dozens of books
PP> they produce. In our supposition, we're talking about a big-time
PP> operation. You might also check out their printing facilities,
PP> distribution centers, and world-wide circulation.  Equally
PP> fascinating is their sudden rise, in a few short years, to the top
PP> of the New Age Movement.  You might even think to ask yourself, why
PP> the New Age Movement?  What possible connection is there with
PP> covert government UFO activities, or a New World Order, with the
PP> New Age Movement?  The answer to that might be revealed, if you dig
PP> deep enough, and discover high-speed modem links between their
PP> headquarters and certain organizations located at Langley and Ft.
PP> Meade.  Yes, if you really dig, you might uncover all kinds of
PP> interesting things about America West.

Thanks for the tip.

PP> As to your effort in trying to identify staff personnel of the
PP> Phoenix Project -- good luck.  However, we do have to admit that
PP> you may get lucky and hit on a couple of them.  However, since
PP> there are many, it is doubtful you will ever get beyond that point.

Our only interest in the personnel of the Phoenix Project is to
determine whether the Project has a hidden agenda, and whether it is
covertly linked to other organizations whose agendas are known.  That
interest was made necessary by the Project's clandestine nature and
consequent lack of public accountability.  You brought it on
yourselves, and your continuing hostility and evasiveness suggest that
we were not entirely mistaken in our suspicions.

Our investigation continues.  We'll let you know what we find out.

Michael Corbin
Director
ParaNet Information Service

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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Phoenix Project
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Date: 20 Nov 92 18:48:02 GMT
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 * Originally by Michael Corbin, 1:104/422
 * Originally to Michael Corbin, 1:104/428
 * Originally dated 20 Nov 1992, 11:48

This file was contributed by Don Kircher, a ParaNet subscriber.

Our thanks to Don for his investigation into the Phoenix Project.

Michael Corbin

                                           10/23/92


           Copyrighted Radio Transmissions from Aliens




                            Abstract
    K-2; the alleged alien base in the Plumas National Forest is
branded a hoax by default when the recorded radio transmission is
found to be a copy of a tape which was available in bookstores
across the country.


                            Key Words
Phoenix Project,K-2,Underground Base,Alien,Plumas National Forest
Pilot Point, PP report #920627, hoax




    From the moment I became aware of the Roswell case I have
maintained an ongoing interest in crashed ufos, direct contact,
and abductions. I tend to be more open to statements than some,
taking an innocent until proven guilty attitude, rather than the
more adversarial "show me" stance. ( I am not from Missouri ).
This means I listen to everything. I save everything. I cross
index everything. But I challenge very little. The jury remains
out until something is produced which can withstand the
scientific method, or is good enough to go before a courtroom
judge. The result is a very large "wait and see" file, and
occasionally a solidly closed case.

    My wait and see attitude combined with a healthy dose of dumb
luck has permitted me to move the K-2 report squarely from the
wait and see file into the closed section. Cross indexed under
HOAX.

    I have closely monitored the netmail concerning the K-2
report since the story first broke in June. Direct e mail
with the spokesman for the Phoenix Project and conversations with
other interested parties have consumed a sizeable portion of my
storage space. Yet I remained unwilling to send the Phoenix
Project the money it desired for an original copy of the reports.

    Conversations with David Brune led to an arrangement for him
to send me his copy of the K-2 report along with a copy of the
taped radio transmission which led the Phoenix Project to
investigate the K-2 site to begin with. I received the packet in
early October and was surprised to find the contents of the tape
familiar to me.

    It should be noted that the tape received from David is
labeled K-2 Radio Transmission Monaural (58:20) and was associated
with a descriptive paper noting its origin having been recorded
on June, 5, 1989 at 0200 PDT from shortwave frequency 16.222
Megahertz at Forbestown, California. A note  from the technical
data states that "Oscilloscope observation of the recorded signal
reveals the presence of pulsed digital information impressed on
the predominant analog audio signal components". It then goes on
to say that "This digital data may be encrypted".

    This description of the K-2 radio transmission is
inconsistent with my own findings. The actual contents of the K-2
tape are a monaural reproduction of a tape which I purchased
several years ago from a local bookstore. I am happy to say that
after some digging in my garage I was able to locate my STEREO
commercial production tape, and that it is still in good
condition. My own tape is labeled ASTRAL SOUNDS and was
copyrighted 1973 by The American Research Team. The tape was
distributed under license by POTENTIALS UNLIMITED, INC.
Potentials Unlimited marketed a wide variety of self help/self
hypnosis/subliminal message tapes in the late eighties. Their
products were available in the big chain bookstores such as
Waldons and B Daltons. The original intent of the ASTRAL SOUNDS
tape was to synchronized sound with brain wave frequencies for some
interesting effects during listening/meditation.

    Both tapes have been donated to Paranet for the listening
pleasure of serious researchers. If you have been considering
purchasing ANYTHING from the PHOENIX PROJECT. I strongly advise
you to reconsider.


Regards


Donald Kircher

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