From: rkrouse@netcom.com (Robert K. Rouse) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: The Jackie Gleason Story (1/2) Message-ID: Date: 21 Jul 93 03:55:11 GMT Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) (From: UFO Universe Summer 1993) Jackie Gleason & The Little "Men From Mars" by Timothy Green Beckley Way back in the mid-1960s, I got a letter in the mail from Jackie Gleason Productions, Hollywood, Florida, ordering a copy of a mimeographed booklet I had put together relating to UFOs. This, to me, was confirmation of what I had heard rumors about for a long time ... that "the Great One' " was personally involved in researching UFOs. Supposedlyand I've since found out that this is true-Gleason had one of where the tale gets a bit wilder. A story circulated by Gleason's ex-wife, Beverly, has Jackie actually viewing the bodies of several aliens who died when their craft crashed in the Southwest. T'he story was carried originally in the National Enquirer, and though Beverly Gleason later confirmed it to members of the press who were able to track her down, independent confirination of Gleason's supposed experience could-for the longest time-not be certified. Now with the striking revelations of a young man who knew Gleason personally, it can safely be said that such an event did take place. Larry Warren was an Airman First Class stationed at Bentwaters Air Force Base in England (a NATO installation staffed mainly by US. servicemen) when an incredible series of events took place over Christmas week of 1980. A UFO was picked up on radar and subsequently catne down just outside the perimeter of the base in a dense forest. On the first of several nights of confrontation with the Unknown, three security police ventured into the area across an eerie-looking object hovering just above the ground. One of the MPs was mesmerized by the UFO and was unable to move for nearly an hour. While in this mental state, he received some sort of telepathic message that the craft would return. For the next few nights, up to 80 US. servicemen, British bobbies, as well as civilians from some nearby farms, witnessed an historic event. According to Larry Warrenwho stood w where the tale gets a bit wilder. A story circulated by Gleason's ex-wife, Beverly, has Jackie actually viewing the bodies of several aliens who died when their craft crashed in the Southwest. T'he story was carried originally in the National Enquirer, and though Beverly Gleason later confirmed it to members of the press who were able to track her down, independent confirination of Gleason's supposed experience could-for the longest time-not be certified. Now with the striking revelations of a young man who knew Gleason personally, it can safely be said that such an event did take place. Larry Warren was an Airman First Class stationed at Bentwaters Air Force Base in England (a NATO installation staffed mainly by US. servicemen) when an incredible series of events took place over Christmas week of 1980. A UFO was picked up on radar and subsequently catne down just outside the perimeter of the base in a dense forest. On the first of several nights of confrontation with the Unknown, three security police ventured into the area across an eerie-looking object hovering just above the ground. One of the MPs was mesmerized by the UFO and was unable to move for nearly an hour. While in this mental state, he received some sort of telepathic message that the craft would return. For the next few nights, up to 80 US. servicemen, British bobbies, as well as civilians from some nearby farms, witnessed an historic event. According to Larry Warrenwho stood within feet of this craft from another world-three occupants came out of the ship and actually communicated with a high ranking member of the U.S. Air Force. This close encounter at Bentwaters has become the subject of several books (see From Out Of The Blue, Jenny Randles, Inner Light Publications) and has been given wide publicity on CNN, Home Box Office and more recently "Unsolved Mysteries." Warren has, in a sense, become somewhat of a celebrity himself as he remains in the public eye, willing to talk about what he observed. "Jackie Gleason was interested in hearing my story first hand," Warren offers as a means of explaining how he met the famous comic in May, 1986. "At the time I was living in Con- necticut and both CNN and HBO had run pieces on the Bent- waters case. Through mutual friends who knew members of his family, I was told that Gleason would like to talk with me privately in his home in Westchester County, and so the meet- ing was set for a Saturday when we would both have some time to relax' " After being formally introduced, the two men ventured into Gleason's recreation room complete with pool table and full- size bar. ,There were hundreds of UFO books all over the place," Warren explains, "but Jackie was quick to tell me that this was only a tiny portion of his entire collection, which was housed in his home in Florida.' For the rest of the day, UFO researcher and UFO witness exchanged information. "Gleason seemed to be very well in- formed on the subject," Larry says, "as he knew the smallest detail about most cases and showed me copies of the book Clear intent that had just been published, as well as a copy of Sky Crash, a British book about Bentwaters that was pub- lished, actually, before all the details of this case were made public. I remember Gleason telling me about his own sight- ings of several discs in Florida and how he thought there were undersea UFOs bases out in the Bermuda Triangle." But it wasn't till after Warren had downed a few beers and Gleason had had a number of drinks-"his favorite Rob Roys"-that conversation really got down to brass tacks. "At some point, Gleason turned to me and said, "I want to tell you something very amazing that will probably come out some day anyway. We've got em!' 'Got what, I wanted to know?' 'Aliens!' Gleason sputtered, catching his breath." According to Warren, Jackie proceeded to tell him the intriguing set of circumstances that led him to the stunning con- clusion that extraterrestrials have arrived on our cosmic shores. "It was back when Nixon was in office that something truly amazing happened to me," Gleason explained. "We were close golfing buddies and had been out on the golf course all day when somewhere around the 15th hole, the subject of UFOs came up. Not many people know this," Gleason told Warren, "but the President shares my interest in this matter and has a large collection of books in his home on UFOs just like I do. For some reason, however, he never really took me into his confidence about what he personally knew to be true... one of the reasons being that he was usually sur- rounded by so many aids and advisers." Later that night, matters changed radically, when Richard Nixon showed up at Gleason's house around midnight. "He was all alone for a change. There were no secret service agents with him or anyone else. I said, 'Mr. President, what are you doing here?' and he said he wanted to take me some- place and show me something." Gleason got into the President's private car and they sped off into the darkness-their destination being Homestead Air Force Base. "I remember we got to the gate and this young MP came up to the car to look to see inside and his jaw seemed to drop a foot when he saw who was behind the wheel. He just sort o pointed and we headed off." Warren says that later Gleason found out that the secret ser- vice was going absolutely crazy trying to find out where Nixon was. "We drove to the very far end of the base in a segregated area," Gleason went on, "finally stopping near a well guarded building. The security police saw us coming and just sort of moved back as we passed them and entered the structure. "There were a number of labs we passed through first be- fore we entered a section where Nixon pointed out what he said was the wreckage from a flying saucer, enclosed in sev- eral large cases." Gleason noted his initial reaction was that this was all a joke brought on by their earlier conversation on the golf course. But it wasn't! as Gleason soon learned. "Next, we went into an inner chamber and there were six or eight of what looked like glass-topped Coke freezers. Inside them were the mangled remains of what I took to be children. Then-upon closer examination-I saw that some of the other figures looked quite old. Most of them were terribly mangled as if they had been in an accident." According to Larry Warren's testimony (regarding his lengthy conversati UFOs and space visitors. He said he even drank more heavily than usual until he could regain some of his composure and come back down to everyday reality." Larry Warren is convinced that Gleason wasn't lying to him. "You could tell that he was very sincere-he took the whole affair very seriously, and I could tell that he wanted to get the matter off his chest, and this was why he was telling me all of this." And as far as Larry Warren was concerned, the Great One's personal testimony only added extra credibility to his own first hand experience with aliens while he was in the service. "Jackie felt just like I do that the government needs t 'come clean,' and tell us all it knows about space visitors. It time they stopped lying to the public and release all the evi dence they have. When they do, then we'll all be able to see the same things the late Jackie Gleason did!" Hopeorget whether he said they had three or four fin- gers on each hand, but they definitely were not human...of this he was most certain!" For three weeks following his trip with Nixon to Home- stead Air Force Base, the world famous entertainer couldn't sleep and couldn't eat. "Jackie told me that he was very trau- matized by all of this. He just couldn't understand why our government wouldn't tell the public all they knew about UFOs and space visitors. He said he even drank more heavily than usual until he could regain some of his composure and come back down to everyday reality." Larry Warren is convinced that Gleason wasn't lying to him. "You could tell that he was very sincere-he took the whole affair very seriously, and I could tell that he wanted to get the matter off his chest, and this was why he was telling me all of this." And as far as Larry Warren was concerned, the Great One's personal testimony only added extra credibility to his own first hand experience with aliens while he was in the service. "Jackie felt just like I do that the government needs t 'come clean,' and tell us all it knows about space visitors. It time they stopped lying to the public and release all the evi dence they have. When they do, then we'll all be able to see the same things the late Jackie Gleason did!" Hopefully this day may arrive soon. -- ============================================================ "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" Author unknown ============================================================ Robert K. Rouse rkrouse@netcom.com ============================================================ From jim.mcnelly@gcbb.granite.mn.org (Jim Mcnelly) Wed Jul 21 14:48:00 1993 Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: The Jackie Gleason Story Date: 21 Jul 93 18:48:00 GMT Organization: Granite City BBS 612-654-8372 hst 656-0678 v.32bis =========================================================================== @SUBJECT:The Jackie Gleason Story Newsgroup: alt.alien.visitors Organization: Granite Cities More about: R>Jackie Gleason & The Little "Men From Mars" Before he died, I saw Jackie Gleason on the Tonight Show talking with Spiffy Johnny about all sorts of things, but what grabbed my attention was Gleason admitting that he was an avid reader of _The Urantia Book_, which is reportedly written by a commission claiming to be representing the Universe Government. I'm fairly new to this conference. Are there any Urantia Book readers out there? Jim~~~