N.B. A bulletin appeared from WA0PTV saying all Brits were gullible if they believed the UFO shot down in the Gulf War report. Below are two opinions about the issue which came up in reply to the criticism.
Shot down UFO's
Only a stupid person would try and suggest that Earthlings are capable of conquering Space Travel to other Planets etc. Therefore we should always have an open mind on the so called visitations until we are given real evidence one way or the other.
One thing that puzzles me about the reported 2 UFOs shot down during the Gulf War. I was under the impression that we had TV Reporters on board at least one of the ships that has been reported as being 'buzzed'. Now was this reporter subject to a D Notice or banned from reporting such an incident ? What happened to the Video that was obviously made by the Camera Crew if such an event took place. ?
Denis G0KIU @ GB7BAD
UFO versus Cruise Missile
Either someone does not know his Cruise Missile from his ELBOW or the whole thing is a joke.
To WA0PTV - If no joke maybe the UFO was a RPV from one of the ships or some local observer. Possibly control was lost and it had to be disposed of before it caused problems.
Alan G1JHY @ GB7GLO
Now its 2 UFOs shot down ?
I tend to agree with Dennis - but 2 UFOs shot down ? I suppose they were both piloted by Elvis Presley........................
Seriously, IF such incidents took place (which I now doubt), and a D notice was in place then the video would simply not be available to the general public. I find it staggering that anyone can believe that any race that was capable of deep space travel would be vulnerable to any of our rather crude weapons systems.
One device destroyed I could accept as a very unfortunate possibility, but two devices ? No something does not quite compute. Unless of course such devices are being used to test mankinds weapons systems.
Oh well such mysteries are sent to try us I 'spose
G4NLA @ GB7BAD
G1HAWs UFO Bull
I maintain an open mind on UFO sightings etc.... BUT -
.1 I think it highly unlikely that a TOMMAHAWK cruise missile was used to down the aircraft. Tommahawk is NOT a surface to air missile, and does not (as far as I am aware) have the appropriate target seeking hardware for this kind of engagement. Tommahawk is guided to ground based targets under enemy radar cover by on board computer guidance systems. I suppose it would be possible to have enough ordinance aboard to create a concussive explosion near to the target - but even getting near would prove a bit tricky.
.2 ALL those ships depleted there reserves of SA (Surface to Air) ordnance ? That really does seem most unlikely.....
.3 I would guess that a 'real' UFO would have appropriate air-air armament technology to dismiss anything we could chuck at them. I would also expect such a 'surveylance' craft (as intimated by the 'buzzing' of ships), to clear off as soon as we appeared a bit nervous of their presence.
.4 I suppose that it is possible that the 'UFO' was an unmanned robot, so it was disposable. Perhaps 'they' were testing our weapons systems !.
So the USA is going to recover the debris - well we won't hear anything about their findings in any event !
Anyway, I maintain an open - if slightly sceptical mind on this subject. Bet is was an oversized albatross or something !.
G4NLA @ GB7BAD
G1HAW's UFO BULL
I was intrigued by the recent bull about a UFO being shot down during the Gulf War. According to this report all ships in the area had expended all their conventional SA munitions against this target before shooting it down with a Tomahawk Cruise Missile!
No matter whether you believe in UFO's or not, I really fail to see how a Tomahawk Cruise Missile could shoot one down. Since these missiles are pre-programmed, terrain-following low altitude devices, designed to penetrate below enemy radar cover and deliver a warhead against a ground target, how can it possibly acquire, track and penetrate anything airborne. Since UFOs are reputed to be exceptionally fast and maneuverable, multi-altitude and apparently immune to all air-air and surface-air munitions one can only assume that the breakthrough in weapons technology exhibited by the field modification of a cruise missile will result in extreme riches being bestowed upon the weapons technician/engineer responsible.
I look forward to hearing the other side of the story, perhaps it can be found in a BULL on board an AMSAT BBS? [Wonder how they feel about AX25?]
Malcolm G8RWN @ GB7WRG
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