US Intelligence Officer Talks On UFO's

File: UFO339

The following transcript you are about to read is an actual word for word record of the talk that was given at a quest UFO conference in Leeds on sept 9th 1992 the man who gave the talk was a Mr Bob Dean who was involved with UFO's in his army career in the intelligence network. this is his talk.

I am delighted to be here ,I feel that in a sense I am coming home,I will explain that to you in a sense thats true. My family was forced to flee England just a few years ago,because of a political matter that they got involved in. It seems that an ancestor of mine signed the Kings death warrant and when the restoration took place,at the end of your civil war,they had to flee for their lives and that's how my family ended up living in the new world! Im glad to be home ,its delightful,I love England and I've always felt that this was partly my homeland I want to thank you all for the warm welcome you've given me here.

To the gentleman in the audience from the United States National Security Agency from Menworth Hill,who is here, I also extend my greetings,its always nice to see these chaps. They are good people.they are simply doing a job and I've never been to a UFO conference yet ,where there wasn't someone from the NSA or the Defense Intelligence Agency,so I always try to extend a greeting.

How can I begin to tell you how I got into this field,its kind of strange. For most of my adult life I was a professional soldier,I spent 27 years in the US Army, and most of those were spent in the infantry. A big chunk of those years were in "Special Operations","Special Forces", I was doing all kinds of things and looking back,I look upon it as a mispent youth quite honestly, I was always a hard nosed pragmatic soldier. I was curious about the UFO phenomena,it intrigued me,I was frankly a curious sceptic, which is a good place to begin from anywhere I think. I remained a sceptic until I had the opportunity to be assigned to the Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers europe in 1963.

At that time I was pleased to have a "cosmic"top-secret clearance which was and still is,the highest security level for NATO. When I was assigned to SHAPE HEADQUARTERS in 1963, I ended up being assigned to the operations division and my place of work was a place called SHOC ; (SUPREME HEADQUARTERS OPERATION CENTER).I learned at that time that a study was underway ,this study was classified "cosmic top secret" and it was a British Air Marshal by the name of Sir Thomas Pike,who I understand is on of your world war two hero's (Air Vice Marshall T.G.PIKE) Sir Thomas was at that time the Deputy Supreme Allied Commander of Europe and he worked directly with and under my boss, General Lynham Lemnitzer, who was known as SACEUR ( Supreme Allied Commander Europe).

Apparently this is what had been happening in the 50"s and early 60"s.........

Large numbers of metallic circular objects of enormous size, flying at extremely high altitudes, at high rate of speed,had been sighted over europe,repeatedly coming from the Soviet zone or over the Warsaw Pact area,circling over France,Germany,turning north and disappearing off radar over the north sea.This was not once or twice, but six,seven.or eight times. These "fly overs" very nearly triggered world war three, between us and the Soviets several times! For a long time the Soviets thought these objects belonged to us,we thought they belonged to the Soviets. As you know we were eyeball to eyeball in those years,the cold war was very cold,but it had a chance of being very hot! very soon. We almost started shooting at each other several times. The Air Marshall had been frustrated,because he had been trying repeatedly to get information from London and Washington on these objects. What are they,who are they,where are they from and what are they doing? Sir Thomas Pike was unable to get anything out of Washington or London and we were to find out later that the reason he could not get any information,was that everything that Washington and London sent to us at SHAPE HQ in Paris,France went directly to Moscow and to the KGB.The reason that this was happening was that there was an enormous spy ring at that time in Paris and for those of you may have read LEON URYSES book "Topaz", that book deals in a fictional way with the actual situation that took place in paris at that time.

When the Allies,the Americans ,British and French finally broke that spy ring there were a number of French Ministers who committed suicide,a number of Generals were murdered,they were finding bodies out in the woods outside of Paris for weeks after that. Several people were tossed out of high buildings and if you ever get the chance to see the movie on television,by all means do so,because it is based on a serial of true events. Thats why we were not getting information from London and Washington on this matter,so the Air Marshal decided to initiate his own "in house investigations which took place in 1961.

The investigation was given the title "An Assessment "its subtitle was "an evaluation of possible military threat to allied forces in europe". This study took 3 years and it involved the top people,in their fields,in their world.They came to England,to Cambridge and Oxford and got some of the finest historians some of the best people,they went to the top universities in France and Germany. This study was one of the most thorough and complete analysis that I have ever seen and must tell you honestly and very bluntly it changed my life!

After I had been exposed to it,after I had read the report,and after I read the conclusions of this report things were never the same.it turned my life around and I think once I share with you some of the conclusions of this study,you will understand what I am talking about.The study itself was approx. one and a half inches thick,it was supported by ten separate annexes,documents that were about 8" thick altogether and it was a classified "cosmic top secret".

I will give you a little run down on some of the annexes that were in the study. I must at this point share something with you for those of you that are retired "military" in the audience,I want you to understand something. I am violating my national security oath today and I am not doing it lightly I am doing it intentionally after a great series of thoughts about this matter because in the twenty seven years that I was active, I thought of myself as a loyal,cold warrior. I respected my service,I respected my country and I do not lightly violate my national security oath. but the cold war is over and I for one cannot see any further reason or further justification for your government and for mine and for all the other governments in the world, that are keeping the lid on this thing to keep it from you. I am convinced that you have a need to know and a right to know because you British tax payers and the American tax payers are paying the bills for this thing. We have a right to be let in on this,because your country and mine are both democracies. so I want you to understand,those retired military here,that I am not violating the oath lightly,I am doing it intentionally for a specific purpose. In my view the subject that we are discussing this afternoon,is the major issue of our time and I hope that after I'm finished in a little while,that you will agree with me that it is indeed ,the major issue of our time. I will just run down the list of annexes that supported this study:-

Radar and Electromagnetic effects

Optical and Light Analysis

Photographic and Holographic Analysis

Historical Research

Metallurgical and Technical Analysis

Atmospheric Physics

Biological Analysis of Autopsies

(In the report were the complete coverage of the crash and retrieval of an object in northern Germany in 1962 where twelve small bodies were retrived.) I have saved my last 3 annexes to the last because of in my view they are probably among the most important.

There was a very thorough and thick annex on:- Psychological studies & Pychological Impact. There was a annex on Sociological effects and the implications,last but not least and in my view probably one of the most important was:- the Theological implications and impact. They had gone to Tubiga university in Germany and got some of the top theologians in the country to study this issue and the conclusions were, (this is the thing that changed my life and I hope you will bare with me , mindboggling and breathtaking in my view),the first was:- The planet earth is and has been the subject of extensive massive and very thorough detailed survey by several extraterrestrial civilizations.

These civilizations have demonstrated an extremely advanced technology,possibly hundreds or even thousands of years beyond ours. The conclusions included that there seems to be a process or a plan of some kind unfolding and that they who are conducting this survey have demonstrated that a development of some kind of program was under way. Evidence indicates that this program has been going on for a very long time,possibly hundreds or even thousands of years. The study concluded that there did not appear to be a major military threat involved. If they were malevolent or hostile,there was absolutely nothing we could do! I have no need to tell you I'm sure that when this thing was published and fifteen copies were produced,"cosmic TOP Secret", only fifteen were ever made,it had an impact on the military leaders at shape HQS that was pretty impressive.

At the time ,there was an American 4 star General attached to Shape,who's title was the"AIR DEPUTY" to General Nemintzer.This was General Robert Lee and I have a great regard and a lot of respect for General Lee,he was a professional airman,he had served all through the war he was highly decorated ,highly respected.General Lee was a good friend of a General by the name of General Curtis Lee-May,he used to be the commander of our Strategic Air Command (SAC). When the implications of this study hit General Lee,his aid "told me that the old man sat there with a cup of coffee and his blouse (tunic) open and his hat on the table and he was looking through the conclusions of this thing. He said MY GOD,! Do you realize what this means,everything we have ever done everything we have ever accomplished,all that we"ve got,our weaponry,our machinery,our planes our missiles,our nuclear weapons.... It all means......Nothing!