SUBJECT: NETWORKING TO INITATE GLOBAL TRANSFORMATION FILE: UFO725 PART - 1 A. Networking to initiate global transformation. B. The two currencies of this network will be coherency and urgency with respect to its vision and purpose. 1. Within an overarching unity there need be no limits on diversity. In this manner the network serves as a microcosm, manifesting the structure of the cosmos. C. Our ultimate purpose, as with the cosmos, is to promote the diversity and continuity of life and consciousness. However, the immediate objective will be to facilitate the discontinuity that is explicit in the notion of global transformation. D. This is an emergency network. It will generate sense of urgency and enthusiasm based on the vision of the imminent global transformation. To the extent of our own resources we will be an agent of the spiritual emergency. This is our human intitiative, to which the cosmos will respond. 1. Our interest in human governments and institutions is limited only to the necessities of transcending them. 2. In overcoming the obstacles to mundane communication we will be reopenning the doors to cosmic communication. Thus will we transcend the physical limits of our materialist perspective. 3. In order for us to fully develop in this physical realm, the other realms were hidden from us. In reaching the end of that history, the cosmic censorship is overturned. E. The comos comprises a great variety of energies that will be reemerging at this time. We humans will be realigning ourselves with those energies, individually and collectively. This process will involve both integration and disintegration. The network will be the mundane facilitator of the realignments. F. Transformation is overwhelming. Aspects of it will simply be frightening. Our fears will be contained only by our knowledge that each of us incarnates something of God. Historically the primary guarantee of our divine origin is to be found in the singular Christ event wherein the personal face of the cosmos shown most clearly. G. The determination for any of us to undertake a cosmic role requires the strongest of historical precedence. That is to be found in the new testament as the third and final aspect of divinity: the spirit of the truth. If history is coming to a close, and if we are to play a significant role in that closure, then we must invoke nothing less than that spirit. H. Amen PART - 2 A. Developing a proactive strategy by people concerned with global transformation. B. There are new age followers, there may be new age conspirators, and there are paranormal investigators. C. What is missing is an identifiable group with a positive global strategy for transformation. This is an attempt to fill that gap. D. There are many passive followers, be they new agers or members of various sects or cults who make no attempt to think critically or plan rationally. Thus do they become a temptation for manipulation by charlatans and conspirators. They certainly are operating on a small scale, and soon will, if not already, be operating on a global scale. E. The paranormal investigators as a group are open to critical and rational thought, and they often operate with a global perspective. But over the years their stance has become increasingly reactive rather than proactive. And thus they too are open to manipulation by the phenomena they attempt to study. F. There are some of us who feel that the mounting evidence produced by the investigators is more than sufficient for us to seize the initiative and develop a strategy around the concept of imminent global transformation. We might be wrong, we might be premature, but we can no longer afford the luxury of being passive observers. Some of us must stick our necks out, and act upon probable knowledge. We anticipate global manifestation and we rise to meet that occasion, rather than wait passively for the sky to fall on top of us. G. Part of our strategy will be to restructure the discussions with the skeptics, again by our taking the offensive, and not allowing them to control the debate. The question we must reasses is whether it is we who are making the extraordinary claims or they who are making the extraordinary denials. H. We cannot, in the name of an ill-defined concept of scientific objectivity, shy away from the basic metaphysical issues. We must develop an alternative cosmology to that of scientific materialism. If we continue to accept the premises and presuppositions of scientific materialism, we will never gain the upper hand. The only alternative is to take a decisive step away from materialism. I. These are only a few of the many issues to which we must attend. PART - 3 A. **** Len 1. I got your Jan 17 test msg OK. 2. I am interested in alternate science info. a) A few years back in my first networking phase, I had connected with several of the SF Bay Area fringe physics types, and I'm now trying to extend on those. b) Several physicists are involved in the consciousness research movement, doing theoretical work, using mathematics to model mental phenomena and the mind-matter bridge. c) Some of these also see mathematical connections to the idea of dimensional, "spiritual density," harmonic, -type global transformations that come from the gnostics via Gurdjieff, Don Elkins, Ashtar grps, 11:11, etc. d) Phil Schuman and Paul von Ward have interests and connections in alt. sci. e) Another aspect of alt. sci. comes from Tesla, but I do not know what if any are the theoretical foundations of this. I am aware of KeelyNet(Vanguard sciences), and Borderland sciences. My sister's friend in Montana is heavy into Borderland. f) Another interest in alt sci concerns brain wave research. I have been involved in this as a programmer for a neuroscience consultant for several years. He is doing some non-classified consulting to the cia. 1) Investigating idea of a quantum electronic device, such as a superconducting, macro-quantum, critical state substrate to serve as node between computers and both personal and cosmic mind sources. Something we could attach to our scalps and pc's to help us synchronize globally to cosmic consciousness, on a voluntary(?) basis. 2) I am only vaguely aware of some groups working on advanced biofeedback devices. 3) Don and I have been discussing l.a.'s mind-brain initiative w/ possible alien overtones. Ron and others are quite interested in this area. 4) By the way I have made extensive use of BRS (Dialog) data bases in this research. I can help search on specific topics of interest to others. 3. re: cage rattling a) about 2 months prior I had begun more active local netwking, but then a family crisis concerning my other sisters divorce was the proximate antecedent to me and my first sister experienceing psychotic episodes (altered states) for several days. It was the first time for either of us. I had to go to MT to help get her to a hospital where she was for three weeks before making a sudden recovery. There was a lot of synchronicity in this same period for me and some acquaintances. b) this experience was a motivator for the idea of a (spiritual) emergency, early warning netwk. on a global scale. PART - 4 A. Some notes on recent communications: B. w/ Ron 1. Wondering about my letter to Sen. Sarbanes, for him to request an investigation of crop circles by ron's group. I fax copy to Sarbanes ofc. 2. Interesting articles in Bill Moore's Focus newsletter. 3. Falling out btw. Moore and Cooper. Why does he mention old politics. 4. mentioned other person who is possible contact(ee) @ los alamos. 5. OK to include him in e-mailings via outside acquaintance. C. w/ Una Dawood, CCCS U.K. (crop circles) 1. recv'd prelim. version of ntwk protocol, has gotten pos. response from some others. 2. German magazine is sponsoring a 10,000 L# contest for the best human made crop circles. She will help out. 3. Friction about whether to include skeptical aricles in CCCS "Circular". Inclusive side came out on top. 4. She had to "fire" a volunteer who was exposed as having been involved in a UFO hoax. 5. Circles meeting at Glastonbury last Sept. turned spiritual. She will been on lookout for organized spiritual activity around the circles. D. w/ Bob Oechsler 1. wants to know why Ron is not returning call about being on his radio show. 2. Knows John Brandenberg and will provide his phone#. 3. Does not object to spiritual matters in connection with UFO's. Knows Dr. Barry Downing - "Angels and UFO's." 4. suggests his friend John Lear for network. 5. hopes to work w/ Ed Dames E. w/ Kurt Battenfeld - MD MUFON, Chesapeake Res. Grp. 1. JFK & MJ-12? 2. Thread on Prodigy re prediction of July 19 UFO activity involving U.S. and Brazil 3. 11:11 section on prodigy 4. Black budget advanced aircraft - Popular Science F. w/ Phil Schuman - physics and metaphysics, compuserve 1. Republication of Terrance McKenna book - "Invisible Landscape" - Harper-Collins. Re: cycles and end of history, etc. 2. Was asked for info on 11:11. I mentioned Ashtar type channeling groups and Jose Arguelles' "Earth Link" mag. He will look on the Well for more info. 3. Is interested in network. G. w/ Paul von Ward - D.C., New Sciences Foundation 1. Off for three weeks in India with Brian O'Leary. Will ask adepts about participating in crop circles formation project. This may also include Ed Dames of Psi Tech. 2. going to UK in spring and summer. H. w/ Bob Arnold - SETI 1. suggested Peter Sturroch - Stanford & Soc. for Sci. Explor. for inclusion in netwk. 2. discussed whether Russian SETI coord. Vladimir Sperlninski might talk about UFO's on visit to DC. Ron had seen notice to this effect, but B. Macabbee thought not. 3. Bob contributed to one of Don's threads on SETI protocol. I. *** Len, re: "cage rattling" 1. I feel out of materialism gradually over several years while studying metaphysics. 2. But did have a rattling last June. Be glad to compare notes. I mentioned this to Michael Drosnin, a free lance reporter/author and he said he had interviewed about 100 people w/ similar experiences. Wondered if I had contacted Dale Graff, a DIA psi person. His remarks recalled similar ones by Kit Green, a predecessor of Ron's and a student of Vallee. J. *** Don, all 47k of your 1st installment got through - so I don't know why you got the exceed limit warning from CIS? I am passing the Rainbow Decl along to Phil Schuman at his req. K. Rainbow declaration: 1. I like John's brash and direct style. 2. I agree with dualism and war in heaven scenario. 3. He does not allow for the possibility that different humans may choose different sides. 4. There is too much emphasis on the role of world gov't. 5. Sounds too much like projecting our own history onto the cosmos. 6. There is very little of the transcendental, metaphysical or spiritual. 7. Why have they waited till so recently to take us on, now that we have more weapons? 8. Where does this fit into the long history of contact? 9. The crescendo of human history, now nearing its climax is the central event, and the medium level entities are here to midwife and to exploit, but only we are the main protagonists in this drama. The predators circle at the hatching out. We are being reborn and we are going transcendental. The idea of building a new global defense system against ET's sounds like a way to keep the lid on our inevitable coming out. 10. The R.D. certainly qualifies as a major alternative scenario and merits continued discussion, in my opinion. PART - 5 Chip, I am posting this in the National Issues forum, paranormal section of Compuserve. Don and Len, Chip Denman is an active member of the D.C. area Skeptics. - Dan --------------------------------------------------------------- The Forces of Darkness? (If I were a skeptic I think I might be worried about this. (I actually am concerned, but for other reasons.)) In ten billion years of inorganic evolution of the universe followed by five billion years of organic evolution on Earth, we have come a long way toward reason and rationality out of the primordial fireball and the primordial ooze. It had been a long uphill battle, until it seemed that the mastery over the chaos of nature and the chaos of our own minds was almost in our grasp. And then in the last eye-blink of history, just as we are on the verge of the victory of total understanding, of the Theory of Everything, of global communication, and of artificial intelligence, it seems that the forces of darkness, irrationality, superstition, religion, and paranoia are bent on making a final stand: one last hurrah before banishment to the light of total rationality. Should not the rationalists be able to rest on the laurels of 15 billion years of the evolution of reason, and let this last gasp of mysticism blow itself out? Or should they be concerned that there is something more sinister at work here? Some secret conspiracy may be spreading rumors of mysterious and paranormal events, as a means of global mind manipulation and control. Could that force push us back into a permanent dark age? Just curious.... PART - 6 A. Don and Len, Just to keep you posted on my Compuserve efforts. If you have a chance to provide feedback, please do so. We must keep up the appearances of gung ho emergency networkers! -- Dan B. Max, I'm jumping into this thread a bit late. I have been in touch with some people at CCCS, mainly Una Dawood, crop watch coordinator, and Ralph Noyes. I have mentioned to them that an employee of one of our intel. services has been looking for an outside sponsor for an investigation of cc's. We have contacted a member of Congress and are awaiting a decision. Report would be classified, but interested parties would have secondary access. Not sure what their position might be. It should be time to start considering the purpose of the formations, as providing a global focus for communication with alien intelligence. Am attempting to participate in a global netwk for such purpose. An acquaintance is in India requesting adepts to join in the projection of formations. If they are human made, that hardly proves that they are not alien inspired. It would be hard to believe that such a conspiracy would not have occult connections. (see Dark Forces topic). If you are interested in netwk, please notify. -- Dan C. Hi Terry, I even forget if you are cat or mouse in this game, but no mind, never matter. I'd like to say I dissappeared on intel-op but that would be hyperbole. But I am beginning to participate in an "emergency" netwk. (see CC's). IMHO the real conspiracy is the reverse. We have been cut off from cosmic mind to focus for several millennia on developing ego consciousness a la existentialism. This spiritual quarantine has been difficult to maintain, however the inquisition was quite effective, but is beginning to lose its power. More mundane conspiracies such as JFK are minor blips on the screen of this cosmic one, but they do exploit each other, for lower and higher purposes. If any one conspiracy is unravelled, the whole thing will come apart, and that is beginning to happen. The CC's are either the last of the disinfo, or the first of the info. Same diff. -- Dan D. Malcolm, I'm trying remember how the world looked through skeptical eyes. They are afraid to ascribe conspiracy to the rising tide of mysticism, because that would lead them into the occult. Instead they must see it as a confederacy of dunces, a consolation of failed existentialists, a hang out for Ayn Rand drop outs. Its leadership is provided by a back-scratching network of greedy charlatans. There must, however, be a great deal of honor among thieves to explain, for instance, why some of the real charlatans making the crop circles in England have not come forward after D&D? The skeptics are constantly nitpicking, but they are very reluctant to present counter theories. So I am here to help them out. Let's get to the bottom of this silliness. ;,) -- Dan PART - 7 Don and Len, Here are two items of possible interest. I was told by a Sarbanes staffer, that the request was being forwarded to Langley. The possible partial release of any reports has not been worked out. Ron said he would primarily be using remote sensing. I presume sattelites, but did not ask about remote viewing! Len, I would be interested in your info on Orion. As for the Planetary citizens stuff, what about faxing it? Don, yesterday I was telling Len that I tend to find even the bizarre Dulce type stories credible, as long as one takes a sufficiently flexible attitude toward the relativity of all realities. These stories reflect back to the hollow earth ideas and and to ancient subterranian mythologies. Parallel dimensions can connect underground, just as well as in the sky. ------------------------------------------------------- Telephone Conversation with Ed Dames 12-3-91 11:15 to 12:10 A. This report is transcribed from some very rough notes. It is biased toward completeness rather than verbatim accuracy. I am merely reconstructing my general impression of the conversation. Only the greatest uncertainties are noted with question marks. B. Ed has retired for some years from Army-Pentagon (DIA?) intelligence work. He has gone commercial with his remote viewing work with PSI Tech. Six workers, 2 currently on sebatical for screwing up an assignment. Board of directors and a "technical" review board that includes scientists, philosophers and media types (e.g. BBC science editor). Ed refers to himself as a "simple Christian guy." He and Ron both wore the "weird hats" wrt their resp. agencies. C. Recent projects include viewing Iraqi military(nuclear) installations for UN team, and helping Russians with tracing unusual object photographed on Mars - Phobos probe. Proposal for crop circle RVing, and ahve done some already. Circles are done by angel types. D. In the past couple of weeks Ed has given several TV interviews for possible later broadcast, including one for "48 Hours." Would not mind my blabbing to others or on computer ntwrks, but avoid using the terms "angels" or "metaphysics" with any media types. Would anybody else out there mind - blabbing?? E. 60%(?) of their viewing work has involved UFO's. RV's of many UFO events are blocked by external agency, (cosmic censorship?). F. UFO type viewing encounters 2 types of entities: aliens and angels. Aliens are more physical with quasi-physical type craft. They are in trouble and need our resources, which they take, and if humans are involved they recieve mental impressions to confuse what is really going on. The angels are policing these alien activities. The angels technology is more concerned with the mental and transcendental or metaphysical domains. He suggests J Vallee's "Dimensions" for a handle on the angels. Ed seemed ammenable to the dualistic view of angels and aliens as presented in the "Ra Material." It is not clear to me whether it was angles or aliens that are manipulating human Cs wrt UFO contact? G. Ed uses the terms ground zero or ground truth to refer to a spot in SW US where much of their work is done. The angels led them to this spot, indicating that it would be a good place for contacting aliens, about 10 yrs(?) ago. Various forms of contact then occurred. High energy voltage - fire works, lights near a mesa, etc(?). Others cautioned danger wrt first contacts, but Ed damned the torpedoes - guardian angels(?). H. We discussed eschatological implications at some length. His group gets indications of unavoidable bad stuff in the next couple(?) of decades. Deleterious climate changes, storms adversely effecting agriculture. He also foresees a quasi-public contact w/ UFO's near the ground zero site, w/in 1.5 yr. It would be an ongoing contact, of a prophetic sort with both A&A's involved. His review comm. will work out possible coverage. He is not so concerned about a global spiritual emergency, as about the physical(meteorological?) emergencies. I. Ingo Swann, his early mentor, is coming out with a book related to eschatology. J. He referred to the recent meeting that Maccabee attended, American Optical, Sandia, McGarrity. He said Sandia or Los Alamos might be best for a joint CC project w/ Ron. But no one at Pentagon. The informal Pentgon/Industry UFO group had reached a dead end about two years ago. Too much infighting, etc. K. I volunteered to help out particularly with eschat. concerns and Ed suggested there might be work wrt the review comm. L. Several times I asked him about resistance to his contacts and he expressed very little concern. ----------------------------------------------------------------- December 20, 1991 The Honorable Paul Sarbanes G. H. Fallon Building Baltimore, MD Dear Senator Sarbanes, Since last summer I have joined with many others who are closely watching the "crop circle" phenomenon which has resulted in thousands of strange and beautiful formations mysteriously appearing in crop fields around the world including in the United States, and primarily in England. The main attention given to the phenomenon by the media in this country was last fall in connection with the hoax claims of two English gents. However, those claims have worn very thin in the subsequent months. All observers agree that whether or not this phenomenon is a humanly perpetrated hoax, it has no precedent in terms of its magnitude or complexity. Many observers are of the opinion that these mysterious formations are the harbingers of greater things to come, and that they should be watched very closely, lest we humans miss an opportunity to learn more about our selves, the cosmos and our role in whatever may transpire. Among the many investigators from around the world are numerous independent scientists who have performed tests in the fields as well as upon crop and soil samples in their laboratories, and analyzed attendant artefacts. Despite much progress, the general conclusion is that there will be no simple answers to this enigma. In this regard, it has come to my attention that our Central Intelligence Agency has become aware of the "crop circle" phenomenon and has an interest in conducting its own investigation into this matter. Considering the nature and the possible ramifications of this phenomenon, I feel that their expertise in many different areas of investigation would be a unique and invaluable resource to bring to this affair. Furthermore, it would be very auspicious for our Government to able to work alongside the many private citizens groups in attempting to come to grips with a mystery that seems to fall outside the purview of normal science. There have been too many rumors of the public and private organizations working at cross purposes on such matters. Despite the great advances in public awareness and acceptance of these types of phenomena over the last few decades, I would expect that even this small step will be taken with caution. I have been told that a single request from a member of the United States Congress to the Central Intelligence Agency for a briefing or a report on the crop circle phenomenon would be sufficient for them to put into motion such an investigation. Sincerely, Dan T. Smith ----------------------------------------------------------------- PART - 8 Further notes for your comments... A. As once again the rumors of imminent global manifestation begin to circulate, we must ask ourselves whether we are rising to the occasion. Have we done everything humanly possible to prepare ourselves for the cosmic connection? Are we going to be the passive recipients, or can we be active initiators? What do we have to say for ourselves? B. The cosmos has given us ample opportunity, ample warning to get our house in order. But there has not yet been a concerted effort to meet the challenge. For the most part, our efforts have been individual and sporadic. C. Collectively we have enough information to persuade any rational human that there are cosmic intelligences which have been in contact with us. On top of that, there is very persuasive evidence to wit those intelligences are preparing to engage us in a global dialog, as soon as possible, and whether we want to participate or not. D. The hand is writing on our wall, and knocking on our door. Are we going to wait for the door to be broken down, or can we open it from the inside? E. What are the available resources that have not been mustered? 1. Individuals have significant pieces of information that have not been adequately circulated to those who have an interest. 2. We have not made a concerted effort to decide upon a minimal conceptual framework which can adequately account for the great bulk of the paranormal data. a) Our framework, can and should speak to probability. We will not have absolute knowledge until doomsday. Every human action ever taken or not taken has done so on the basis of partial knowledge. This will be no exception. 3. The next step is to confront some responsible skeptics and mainstream scientists with the outlines of our information and our conceptual framework. This would be our final reality check. 4. Then beginning at a specified time we push the information and concepts out to the public by every means at our collective disposal, which by now are considerable. 5. Then we will have kept our part of the cosmic bargain. It will then be up to the other side to acknowledge and confirm or ammend our understanding of what is and what will be. PART - 9 A. Further thoughts on conversations with Don and Len 1-20, 1-21, 1-23 B. Confronting polarities. 1. Our job is not to judge, but to define and discern. Our job is to function as a pivot point in a cosmic realignment. 2. A major aspect of global transformation may be separation. That is probably the most frightening aspect of the future. In the Western tradition we have been inculcated with the idea of good and evil. We cannot understand why a loving God would allow so much evil and injustice. The only answer is heaven and hell. That is how we understand eschatological separation. OK, already, so what is the twist? 3. IMHO what we think of as the bad guys, have mostly finished their work here, and now have one major imperative, that is to try to remove themselves from the scene in one piece. (Is this a variation on the rapture? (see below)). But to depart without the physical destruction of themselves and ourselves, will require the use of technology, a lot of which they will either take with them, or will no longer be useful afterwards. This can occur only with the cooperation of the rest of us. It is a risky process for both sides. They could use their technology and our trust to attempt a last minute takeover of the entire planet. 4. In any case, a low tech, non-regimented planet can probably support only a few hundred million of us for an extended period. That leaves a few billion of us unaccounted for. There will have to be attrition, after the separation, and the job of those of us remaining will be to ameliorate the suffering. Survivalism may be another approach to the situation, but that would be a short term, selfish solution. Besides, Darwinian selection, applies to the jungle, and not to the new earth. 5. If either the separation or the atttrition is mishandled, then we run the risk of holocaust, and having our collective siritual remains entangled in a metaphysical "knot of fear" which could reputably require an eon to disentangle. Now that sounds like your basic Hell. C. If the separation is being prepared, the preparations likely focus in places like Dulce. Those places would be foci of the negative conspiracy. Those of us who would facilitate the non-violent realignment, must confront the polarities. Places like Stonehenge on one hand and Dulce on the other must be allowed to manifest and coexist for a time. Those energies must be balanced for the separation to be non-violent. 1. We already have several leads into the netherworld of Dulce. I don't think we can avoid dealing with them if we are to function as a microcosm. Moore, Lear, and the Los Alamos people are our only existing leads. Any others? D. One slight problem here is that in the Biblical view it is supposed to be the good guys that get raptured in the UFO's. So who is going to help me out of this apparent contradiction? E. Many other issues came up in our converesations, but I tend to focus on the most difficult ones first, then, someday we can look forward to the easy problems. PART - 10 A. Notes on conversations with Don and Len B. (To summarize the last set of notes.) Perhaps the most controversial sub-topic of global transformation is the question of polarity and separation. This raises the issue of good and evil forces, and what will be their eschatological resolution. 1. As a group we avoid taking positions. But we do have to agree generally as to what topics we consider to be important, and we have to be informed about the leading opinions on these topics. Individually we can, of course, say what we please and attempt to proselytize, as long as it does not become too disruptive of the network. C. Indians and chiefs. The network will need a lot of indians to obtain, process, and disseminate information, and to be available for public access. And the network will primarily be composed of these volunteer worker, activists. These indians will need to develop working relations with various chiefs. The chiefs would be the individuals who continue to function primarily outside of the network, using their own private sponsors and constituencies. While maintaining its delicate internal balance, the network should also maintain a balance in its relations with the various chiefs, attempting to avoid becoming too cozy with any particular faction of these outsiders. D. Money. It is not intended that the network become a legal or financial entity. However, the network may seek to channel contributions to individual workers. Any such funds must be publicly aknowledged, and the sources of those funds must be kept diverse and in balance. E. Name. May be useful to avoid tags. F. People to be contacted about network. LPB: David Jones, Don Showen, Wendelle Stevens DTS: Bill Moore, Brandenberg, Ed Dames, Scott Jones, Paul von Ward, Jim Greenan DA: John Komar, Michael Corbin, Rbt. Trevellyan G. Relation to other networks. 1. We can serve as a bridge between networks that are not communicating. 2. We make use of existing electronic networks for our communications, in preferrence to creating our own. 3. We try to recruit individuals for liason with particular networks. H. Don has 200M of files on Amiga 800K disks. How could we make those files more accessible to the rest of us? Need somebody to run a semi-private BBS? I. Need some means for scanning paper documents. Don Showen has a scanner. J. Other discussions 1. Goings on in Florida, in relation to gov't liasons. 2. Scientology keeps showing up. What role are they playing? 3. Interesting meeting in Albuquerque. 4. Planetary citizens coming (part way) out of the closet. Planetary passport - don't leave home without it! 5. Maitreya. 6. If the network succeeds, which part of the cosmic conspiracy will we be identified with? 7. Clear channels? Phoenix - Hataan, Geo. Greene 8. NASA and SETI, Don continues to rattle some cages. 9. Dr. Harding on the ufology circuit discussing emergency abridgements to the Bill of Rights. 10. Deep ecology movement may be manipulated by world gov't types. PART - 11 A. Conversations with Ed Dames and Bill Moore 1-24-92 B. Preamble: Frauds, Hoaxes and Speculation 1. Let everyone know that we are in the business of disseminating speculation and we do not pass judgement upon the information or disinformation that we recieve. Caveat Emptor! 2. However, be also advised that in dealing with the paranormal the currency of the realm is shadows. What you believe is what you see, sometimes. And shadows can bite, and can transform everyone's lives. 3. Every major paranormal manifestation, with the possible exception of Fatima, is open to doubt. However, the entire tapestry of the paranormal both fraudulent and not is of one piece. Treasures are often found in a heap of manure. Ed Walters and Billy Meier may be on the make, but what they point to is probably more important to our future than 2,000 ICBM's, or all the information contained in the Encyclopedia Britannica. 4. If there were not any questions, then we would all have to be true believers. We would not have the fun of shooting rumors over the electronic grapevine, and you would not have the fun of trashing them. As long as the cat stays away the mice will continue to play. 5. As Jaques (me jaques, you dumb) Vallee likes to remind us, we are participating in the making of myth. We must play the alchemists if our children are to become the chemists. We must use our intuition to see beyond the pall of the ordinary. The most fraudulent and bizarre may trigger a glimmer of understanding. (Consider the fraud of the one hand that claps.) The right spark in the right place will be the eschaton of the ordinary. 6. Reading our transmissions may be hazardous to your sanity. Not reading them may be hazardous to your spirit. 7. Amen. C. Ed Dames 1. Ed and his group do remote viewing for fun and profit. Much of their work relates directly or indirectly to the activity of UFO's. 2. One of their customers is an aero-space company that may be benefitting from the input of alien technology. 3. He believes that there is a Mars connection with many of the UFO forays. He hopes to further investigate that connection. 4. Autopsy was performed on the seven cows mutilated at Valdez by an acquaintance at Los Alamos. Cause of mutilation - natural. Cause of death - electrocution. RV'ing indicated lightning-like event, but apparently triggered by UFO reentry. 5. He is expecting a publicizable contact within a couple of years. Further in the future will be cataclysmic meteorological events. 6. He agrees strongly with the JVallee thesis. Much of the close encounter accounts are the result of brain-wave entrainment(TLE?), and are screens for other things. This also interferes with the RV'ing of them. 7. The craft seen in the upper atmosphere, are usually just witnessed in transit, generally time travelling to our past. Tachyon xmitters are involved in their navigation. 8. Does not give much credence to other rumors of serious gov't involvement in alien liaison. D. Bill Moore 1. Has investigated Dulce w/o turning up anything other than some cattle mutilations. Also interviewed Indians there. 2. Will be investigating the Holloman AF Base landing of the '60's. 3. Internal rumors of Nazi's using advanced flying disks, were probably meant for morale boosting. 4. Giving very little credence to Mars artefacts, Phobos photos, Billy Meier, etc. However, Moore is quite sympathetic with Meier's cosmology. 5. He has a book "Extraterrestrial Report" by Segal and Butterfield publ. in the 70's, as a lampoon, that was the source of the phony NYTimes story about the rogue asteroid. 6. He did not withhold opinions on his "colleagues." 7. On the plus side he puts Friedman, Maccabbee, Vallee. 8. A real event: Socorro. 9. Continuing interest in gnostic literature. Two Gods. Good and evil should be seen as love and fear. 10. May be a small faction in gov't that is privy to alien intelligence, but they are also controlled by it. There may be technology xfer. 11. Most recent impression of imminent events started last fall. The impression may be the result of psychic experience of his and a colleague. ********************************************** * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * **********************************************