The following transcript was made from a broadcast over WBAI-FM 99.5 in New York City on September 20, 1991: 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 If you want to call or write to Paul DeRienzo or Samori Marksman, I think they would be interested in hearing your comments about this expos`e. PART I * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [Bill Hamilton is the chief executive officer of the Inslaw Corporation (a software company) and the developer of its PROMIS software package.] BILL HAMILTON: Danny [Casolaro] was found dead in West Virginia. He had conversations with three confidants -- three separate conversations which I found out about later. And he told each of these three confidants the same thing; that he had just then returned from West Virginia where he had met with a source and that he now knew everything that had happened to the PROMIS software and to Inslaw, but that he had to go back for one final meeting to pick up the last piece of evidence. And he was quite euphoric about his breakthrough. And he said to each of these people that Bill and Nancy Hamilton (My wife is named Nancy -- works here with me.) were going to be quite excited. One of the confidants said: "I've had fifty telephone hours talking to Danny." (This is someone who lives on the West Coast.) "During the past year I've spent about fifty hours speaking to him on the phone. Normally, he plays chess with me. Monday night, he was like the cat who had swallowed the canary. He knew he had broken this thing! So, if he was murdered -- and I believe he clearly was -- he was murdered because he had found out too much. The other thing I should mention to you is that, in the final three or four weeks of his life, several different people with backgrounds in U.S. covert intelligence operations, who I talk to on a regular basis, and who Danny also talked to on a regular basis, directly told me that they had told Danny that his life was in jeopardy because he was having such success in breaking this corruption open. And they told me that some specific inquiries that Danny was making could get him killed. And the West Virginia authorities have never shown any interest in finding that kind of thing out from people like me and others who knew professionally what Danny was doing. So, to rule a suicide without examining this kind of information, is a ruling which does not deserve to be taken seriously. PAUL DeRIENZO: Can you give me some idea of those very specific things that Danny Casolaro was inquiring about? BILL HAMILTON: Danny was planning to go to a particular facility in the Washington, D.C. area, owned by the United States Government, a facility with connections to one or more of the people who run "the Octopus". I think you can assume it's a covert intelligence facility, from the way that it's presented. And just going to this facility, I was warned, could get him killed. The other thing that he was doing was making inquiries, over the telephone, to the Syndicate in Los Angeles. And those inquiries had rattled the cages of some people out there. And there was some concern that they might respond to the rattling by killing Danny. The claim that I have heard from some sources is that someone with mob responsibilities (I guess you'd call it) -- some person in the mob -- is a member of the leadership of "the Octopus." And it's someone from the Los Angeles mob. And Danny was onto it. PAUL DeRIENZO: Are you familiar with any of the research that was done by the Christic Institute in Washington, D.C. concerning the Iran-Contra scandal? BILL HAMILTON: Yes. I have read it. PAUL DeRIENZO: To your knowledge, are there any parallels there? Are some of those same people involved, to your knowledge? BILL HAMILTON: Yes. Danny's belief about who was running "the Octopus" -- about seven or eight people -- some of them are people who the Christic Institute identified: Theodore Shackley, Thomas Clines .... Danny also had people like George Pender, John P. Nichols, E. Howard Hunt [JD: Hunt was one of the people named in Nixon's burglary of the Democratic Party headquarters in the Watergate office building.], the former Director of the CIA Richard Helms, Ray Cline. Those are the people that Danny had identified as the people running "the Octopus." PAUL DeRIENZO: Anything you'd like to add to this? BILL HAMILTON: I think it's important that reporters try to get to the bottom of this because Danny was investigating corruption in the U.S. Department of Justice itself. It makes problematical any possibility that there could be a Federal investigation, unless there's an independent counsel appointed. So, the press and the Congress are really the only hopes that we have to try to prove whether Danny was murdered or not. PAUL DeRIENZO: I know that you won your suit and that there were some appeals by the government. Has that been completed yet -- the legal proceedings? BILL HAMILTON: No. The government appealed from the bankruptcy court to the U.S. District Court. The U.S. District Court, in November, 1989, affirmed the bankruptcy court saying that the evidence was sufficient to support the findings (quote) "under any standard of review." (closed quotes). Then the Justice Department appealed again to the United States Court of Appeals this time. And a three- judge panel in May said, on a narrow jurisdictional ruling, that we won the case in the wrong federal court. We should have tried it in a different federal court. We are currently seeking certiorari from the U.S. Supreme Court because we think that the U.S. Court of Apppeals jurisdictional ruling was in error. But when the U.S. Court of Appeals made its jurisdictional ruling, it left undisturbed the findings of the bankruptcy court that had already been upheld by the district court: that the Justice Department stole six million dollars worth of our software through "trickery, fraud and deceit", and then tried covertly to drive Inslaw out of business. PAUL DeRIENZO: Have you received any settlement on that? BILL HAMILTON: I've never received a penny! And the forty-two largest United States Attorneys' offices are still running their caseloads with software that two federal courts said was deliberately stolen by the U.S. Department of Justice headquarters in Washington. PAUL DeRIENZO: And that was Bill Hamilton, the chair of Inslaw, a software producing company in Washington, D.C. that has been battling the United States Government since the early 1980's and whose case led to another window into the workings of the secret team, "the Octopus", and the death of Danny Casolaro. ROBERT KNIGHT: This is UNDERCURRENTS. You've just heard Bill Hamilton, a man at the center of a pattern of deception, corruption and implications that are so tremendous that it's difficult to even encompass them all. This is WBAI, New York. before continuing, it is essential that you call this radio station. Because now, as Bill Hamilton says, the issue has been joined. What can you expect from the Federal Government if, indeed, it is involved in such a wide-ranging conspiracy? Well, we know that what we're going to do is continue to pursue this and bring you the kind of information you've been listening to for a solid half-hour this morning here on UNDERCURRENTS. (212)279-3400 is the number to call. If you want to have an independent reportorial investigative arm, support us now and let us know that this is important to you. Let me just try and delineate some of the implications of this. A reporter gets close to the story. A reporter ends up dead. A reporter looks into something that is so big that it involves a global conspiracy. Let's just take one little aspect of that: the case-tracking abilities of this software. You remember, during this interview that Paul DeRienzo produced, that Bill Hamilton said that copies of that software ended up in places like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and around the world. In countries .... PAUL DeRIENZO: Iraq, as well, in 1987. As a matter of fact, Richard Secord, according to an Iranian arms dealer who is now in jail, made the sales pitch. ROBERT KNIGHT: Let's recall who Richard Secord is. The former commander of the air wing in Vietnam. In it's program, Dang Pao (?), the ambiance out of which was shipped a crippling incapacitation of heroine into the United States. He ends up involved with Southern Air during the Iran-Contra period, and those airplanes are used for shipping arms out of this country, and are used, according to various reports that you've heard here and elsewhere, for shipping cocaine into the United States. ROBERT KNIGHT: Well, there is another kind of product that is just as powerful and just as deadly to the indigenous community. One application -- just very broadly speaking as a former systems analyst myself -- is that tracking software can easily be modified, in terms of the attributes of description, so that instead of federal cases in the United States, it can be used to track the activities and to keep a centralized log of the repression of individuals -- of citizens within a country. Think about Saudi Arabia; a slave state that did not officially change its laws regarding slavery; the indentured servitude of migrant workers who come into that country and become, effectively, the property of the ownership class, and cannot leave without an exit visa. They belong to somebody else. Imagine the applications of software like this! Imagine what happens to people who don't get their hands stamped at elections in El Salvador, because not to vote for the pre-selected rightwing candidates during the mid-1980's was considered by that U.S.-backed military government as tantamount to treason. Area code (212) 279-3400. We're talking about subtle material here, but that which can have an utterly profound effect on the state of human rights around the world. Something that illegally and mysteriously and -- through the operations of the National Security Council members, Robert McFarlane, the "secret team", Richard Secord, and Ed Messe, Ronald Reagan and cronies -- something that starts turning up around U.S.-linked repressive governments around the world. And Iraq is included among them. 279-3400, area code (212)... If we are revealing to you new dimensions of the operations of your government ... This is not a federal investigation. This is an UNDERCURRENTS investigation. This is a WBAI investigation. And we're obviously operating at the threshold of danger. I say that, not to aggrandize the efforts of the people at this particular place, but there is the matter of the death of Danny Casolaro, implying the importance that people NOT know that this is going on. 279-3400 ... If you want to defy, you can defy with your money. You can defy with your tax-deductible donations to WBAI, and let us know that we need to do this. Let us know that YOU need to know this. We are trying to move the consciousness of this city, this country, and this world beyond the spy syndrome where only Robert Gates has a need to know. We're saying that YOU have a need to know. I remember, as news director, reporting on how, during the elections in El Salvador, the Israelis WERE INVOLVED in tracking individuals vis-a-vis voting. Were they using this software? We're going to find out! But it's essential that you help us. Let's look at the astonishing implications of this use of stolen tracking software to keep track of individuals in repressive governments, linked with the United States around the world, using software that was stolen from a company that refused to roll over to Ed Meese and cronies [JD: i.e. Ronald Reagan]. PAUL DeRIENZO: I can't wait until I can tell people, over-the-air, the address of that facility in Washington, D.C. where anybody who goes to it is threatened with death. Maybe we could all go down there. The following transcript was made from a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network affiliate WBAI-FM 99.5 in New York City on September 20, 1991. WBAI can afford to reveal this scandal because WBAI is not under the dictatorship of big business owners and sponsors who forbid these revelations in the mass media. WBAI is financed with donations from listeners like me who realize that you get what you pay for. For instance, General Electric, the owner of NBC, gets what it pays for in terms of public delusion. PAUL DeRIENZO: The next aspect of this case is the connection to BCCI, the Bank of Credit Commerce International. It turns out that BCCI was laundering monies that were raised through the illegal sales of this software. You know, it's very interesting because everybody is screaming: "Well how could BCCI be operating without the regulators doing anything about it when obviously there were flags going up and there was evidence going back seven, eight years that BCCI was involved in drug-running and in laundering of drug money, and in various nefarious schemes?" Well, the reason that the regulators and the Congressional hearings don't seem to want to touch upon is that, very possibly and probably, BCCI had direct ties to the Justice Department and to the regulators who were supposed to be watching the store. In fact, the reason that BCCI was not investigated and not prosecuted a lot earlier for its activities was because it was providing necessary services -- a full service bank. ROBERT KNIGHT: 279-3400, area code (212) .... We need you to say: "Go ahead. Go further. Take us into the realms of the esoteric knowledge of a deadly conspiracy." We are in a position to create so many headaches -- to bring around so much that has gone around. We're going to make so much trouble! The people who do these things have tools and techniques and dirty business beyond your imagining. To help UNDERCURRENTS directly, contact us at 130 West 25th St., New York, NY 10001. PAUL DeRIENZO: Well, what's there to say except: Is this the beginning of death squads in America? Are journalists fair play now for people who are afraid of the light of day shining into the events of the world -- shining into what happens in the distant corners of this country, out of sight of the majority of the people who don't realize that their tax money and their representatives are involved in all kinds of nefarious illegal schemings that cause so much pain and destruction? It's a sad story, and one that WBAI and other progressive journalists are going to stick to, and won't be intimidated and scared away from because of the death of Danny Casolaro. ANDREW PHILLIPS: From our sister station in California, compliments of Pamela Burton at the Pacifica Archives, just today we received an interview conducted by a colleague of mine .... His name is Ian Masters. And he did an interview at KPFK, Los Angeles .... PAUL DeRIENZO: Well, this is an interview with Michael Reconosciutto. He is in the Pierce County Jail in Tacoma, Washington where he was arrested for allegedly running the largest methamphetamine laboratory in United States history -- ever busted in United States history. However, he says he was set up; that his factory was not involved in drug manufacturing, and that he, in fact, was being punished for appearing before the Jack Brooks Committee to give testimony of the involvement of intelligence agencies in the Inslaw matter. Reconosciutto is a computer expert. He claims to have been an employee of the Wackenhut Corporation, to have worked on the Capazon Indian Reservation and to have actually rewritten and improved the Inslaw PROMIS software after it was stolen for export to intelligence agencies in Iraq, Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Canada, and a number of other countries -- eighty-eight countries in all, according to Inslaw CEO Bill Hamilton. And Reconosciutto gave this interview from jail. He has information about things that only someone who is close to these events would know. This is a fellow who, two or three weeks after he gave testimony to the Brooks Commitee, was arrested on these charges ... ANDREW PHILLIPS: Texas Congressman Jack Brooks' Judiciary Committee has been looking into the affair for the last two years, but only issued subpoenas last July. Brooks is believed to have interviewed Edwin Meese, former Attorney General under Reagan and his friends. According to the Hamiltons -- we're going to hear from Bill Hamilton later on -- the files of the Justice Department chief litigating attorney on this case have disappeared. IAN MASTERS: He has a background in U.S. Intelligence: you've always got to be skeptical of that claim, but he certainly does appear to have knowledge of government contracts and activities. He feels that he's being framed by Earl W. Brian and Peter Veidnix. They set him up on a drug charge because he wouldn't cooperate with them. Veidnix apparently warned him against cooperating with the House Judiciary Committee on the Inslaw investigation. Now, the reason I'm going to talk, in a moment, to Reconosciutto is that he is the individual who allegedly altered this Inslaw software to give it this extra capability, to make it lucrative and able to generate all this money and all these sales. IAN MASTERS: So let's now go to Michael Reconosciutto in jail in Tacoma, Washington. [JD: The dotted gaps below indicate some words that I must have missed in dubbing this tape. I'll listen to the original tape and then I'll insert those words in a follow-up to this installment.] MICHAEL RECONOSCIUTTO: ... and this package worked. OK? I mean it really and truly worked. And when I got my first copies of it and ran it up, I was dumbfounded. I have a statistical exercising package where I can put computer software and/or hardware, and/or hardware/software systems through their paces. And I can determine at which point it will become unreliable .... .... was going to go after information technology and bio-technology. And here again, you have to realize that we were on the threshold of a whole new era with bio-technology and with information technology. Earl Brian had some backing, and he was going to buy out some well placed start-up companies that already had a running start, and then he was going to pump money and talent and the right connections into them, and make them go. And all of these grandiose plans were going along huckledy-buck all through 1982. And something went wrong! OK? The first thing that went wrong down in the Capazon was that the deputy tribal chairman, Fred Alvarez and a couple of his friends were murdered. They managed to sidestep that issue, as if it had never happened. And then my ex-associate, Paul Marosca was found murdered. I was the one who found him. And Nichols and others tried to keep me away from our condominium office in San Francisco. It was suspicious to me. And after almost fourteen days of not seeing Paul -- and then a day after he missed a critical meeting that there's no way he would have missed -- that's when I went looking for him. And Nichols tried to get me down to the desert on an emergency basis to work on some project so that I'd be otherwise occupied. And I said that I'd be down there as soon as I found out what happened to Paul. And he was really pushy and really stressed out. When he came across to me on this, it made me even more suspicious. And other people that I talked to tried to dissuade me, and it was just not normal, the amount of pressure and emphasis they were putting on this situation. I knew in my gut there was something wrong. Paul was dead! He'd been slowly strangled to death. IAN MASTERS: But why? Why are they killing people who are working for them? MICHAEL RECONOSCIUTTO: Well let me explain. Alvarez was present at all the meetings, and he was gung-ho behind Nichols (Dr. John P. Nichols), and everything that was going on there. OK? We were all red-blooded Americans, and we believed in the things that were going on! The way things were shaping up with the Reagan Election Committee and the things that were being orchestrated made us all concerned. And Alvarez wrote a detailed letter to Ronald Reagan expressing his concern. All the details of the October Surprise hostage issue were outlined in that letter. I mean, IN SPECIFICS. IAN MASTERS: How did he have this information? MICHAEL RECONOSCIUTTO: Well, Senator Abourezk was the tribal advisor. And we had connections in Saudi Arabia, and we had connections in Iran. And we were using those connections to try to get through to the religious regime to put pressure on the group that had the hostages -- to get them released. We were trying to resolve that question. You've got to understand that Bill Casey was the outside corporate counsel for Wackenhut at that time. IAN MASTERS: And Wackenhut was in a joint venture with the Capazon Indians. MICHAEL RECONOSCIUTTO: That's correct. And William Casey was their [Wackenhut's] outside counsel. Now, Stansfield Turner, the Carter C.I.A. Director WAS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF WACKENHUT! Do you know that Frank Carlucci [JD: former secretary of defense] is on the board of directors of Wackenhut? Shall I keep going?? You know, their favorite song at board meetings, after the "Star Spangled Banner", is "Hail, Hail, The Gang's All Here". IAN MASTERS: But tell me how this led up to Ronald Reagan. What was the date of this letter saying .... MICHAEL RECONOSCIUTTO: I can't remember exactly. I'd have to go back to my notes and stuff. But we've got copies of it and we've got copies of Ronald Reagan's response. Have you seen any of this? IAN MASTERS: No. Of course not. MICHAEL RECONOSCIUTTO: OK. It's been spread out to reporters. And I will get a hold of ... IAN MASTERS: I'd like to get hold of it. But tell me now: what specifics do you have on how this October Surprise thing was orchestrated? MICHAEL RECONOSCIUTTO: OK. But let me finish. I'm building up to a point here. It's quite complicated and I'm just about there. Robert Jason, who is the group vice president of Wackenhut, has an interesting history. Robert Jason was vice president of International Telegraph and Telephone. You know -- ITT. During the Allende situation in Chile, he was the C.I.A. station boss as well as vice president of ITT for Chilean operations. And his deputy station boss was Dino Pianzio. And John Philip Nichols was working under Dino John Pianzio at that time. Jason goes from ITT to Wackenhut. During the Carter Administration, Robert E. Jason is Commissioner of U.S. Customs for the entire Carter Administration. As Commissioner of Customs, he has some interesting projects directly out of his office. One of them was Fat Albert, the drug interdiction surveillance balloons. Are you familiar with that technology? IAN MASTERS: Yes. -- the big balloons with radar and other sensors that were doing the aerial surveillance for drug smugglers flying in, to try to avoid radar. A very major project! Two-thirds of the companies that were vendors supporting that project were wholly owned by Earl W. Brian. The contracting officer handling all of those companies was Peter Veidnix, out of the BUREAU OF CUSTOMS! OK? And this was a very large procurement. And Veidnix' job, as contracting officer, was to deal with industry. And he was the point of contact for the vendors in industry to deal with the Government agency. It was his job to communicate and fraternize with the companies that the Government was involved with. That's a normal part of his job description. Now for him to say, in affidavits, denying that he's ever heard of Wackenhut, that he's ever heard of Earl Brian, and Earl Brian's denying that he's ever heard of Peter Veidnix is preposterous! IAN MASTERS: Well, you've personally had to work with both of them. MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: You see, but what I'm trying to do is establish, on an undisputed basis, collateral from me, or totally independent from me, the fact that these guys do not have a basis to deny knowing each other, or to deny knowing anything about Wackenhut. Here the chief operations officer from Wackenhut takes a leave of absence to go be Commissioner of Customs. And while Commissioner of Customs, he had routine contact -- he might as well still have been at his post at Wackenhut. Internal memoranda suport that. OK? Yet the guy who was Veidnix' boss, and wearing two hats, while running a Government agency -- which is not proper to begin with -- But for Veidnix to deny he's ever heard of Wackenhut is a bunch of baloney. Wackenhut has a working relationship with the Customs Bureau that is second to none for a corporate entity to have with a Government agency. These guys are not talking reality. They're hiding behind a so-called wall of plausible deniability which, if you examine the facts, it is shown to be just that. Now, we get back to the Reservation, and we get back to this three-ring circus conducted by Dr. John Philip Nichols and covert operators, and arms dealers, and drug dealers, of every stripe and color coming to meetings over a four-year period on this Reservation. That's what you had. PROMIS was just one of many acts in this three-ring circus. And the players were involved, not just in PROMIS, but in all the rest of it. So, the Hamiltons, and the scenario of them getting ripped off while in a formal contractual relationship with a Government agency, is only one of many stories. And I can pinpoint over a hundred companies that received the same kind of treatment, and were defrauded in the same way as Inslaw. And I've gotten over fifty of them together, and we're all networking, trying to bring this thing out into the light of day. IAN MASTERS: What about the idea that somehow the theft of PROMIS was a reward to Dr. Earl Brian for brokering the Iran hostage deal? MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: The ability to run with PROMIS from the inside, on a procurement track, was part of a benefit reward package to the Capazon position for what they did in helping the Election Committee. Part of that was the artillery shells. Part of that was security contracts for Wackenhut. Wackenhut has security jobs that traditionally the United States Marine Corps did. OK? Now, it's done on open bid to private companies, and Wackenhut consistently has gotten most of those jobs. And all our atomic weapons research and test sites are all guarded by Wackenhut personnel. In the Reagan Administration, the shift went abruptly from Marine Corps and military personnel to Wackenhut personnel. It was an UNPRECEDENTED move. And it's my position that this was part of the reward benefit package for cooperation and services rendered during the election situation. ANDREW PHILLIPS: We think this is one hell of a story. Just let me read briefly from the VILLAGE VOICE of this week [Sept. 18, 1991]: "Unlike the murky October Surprise scandal with the compromised Congressional investigations into Iran/Contra, the facts in the Inslaw case are quite clear. Emerging from a low-level bankruptcy court, they paint a virtually indisputable case of corporate theft." This is James Ridgeway writing in this week's VOICE, "an indisputable case of corporate theft, political corruption, and the very real possibility of international espionage. The issue goes straight to the White House and it involves officials at the highest levels of the Justice Department in what appears to be a deliberate campaign of intimidation, theft and corruption. By now, that ought to have led to a serious Congressional investigation. Unlike Iran/Contra, no one in this case has pleaded national security as a defense, though that is likely before it is over. In a sense, it is already too late for that. The facts are too well defined. If the opinions of two judges are correct, this case ought to result in criminal indictments of past and present Justice officials." (212) 279-3400: That's the number here at WBAI. PAUL DeRIENZO: Hopefully, people will keep calling through this interview -- as important as it is. ANDREW PHILLIPS: We urge you just as strongly as possible to support the radio station that's doing the work, supporting the journalists who are doing the work, and supporting ourselves -- each other -- as a community -- as a listener community. That's what it's about. We need each other. We are a listener-supported institution here at WBAI. We are a Pacifica station, and when you subscribe to WBAI, your dollar goes a very, very long way. PAUL DeRIENZO: This is Bill Hamilton, the developer of the PROMIS software, which was marketed by Inslaw and then stolen, according to a bankruptcy court judge, from Inslaw. BILL HAMILTON: Inslaw has software that it manufactures for case management -- case tracking and workflow management in a professional office. One type of that software is called PROMIS and is for prosecution management information systems in public prosecution agencies. The U.S. Department of Justice contracted with Inslaw, in 1982, for ten million dollars, to install a 1970's version of PROMIS, that we had created, in the twenty largest U.S. Attorneys offices. In 1983, the Justice Department modified the contract to replace the 1970's version with a 1980's version. That meant that the Justice Department would have to pay Inslaw license fees because they had no right, under the contract, to the 1980's version. As soon as they took delivery of the 1980's version, however, the Justice Department reneged on the contractual promise to pay us the license fees, and instead, started to refuse to pay us the bills for the services we were performing. They withheld payments for two million dollars of services and drove us into Chapter Eleven bankruptcy. As soon as we went into Chapter Eleven bankruptcy, the Justice Department launched a covert effort to convert Inslaw from Chapter Eleven bankruptcy to Chapter Seven bankruptcy, which means complete liquidation. We sued the Department of Justice in Federal bankruptcy court, and after three weeks of trial, the court ruled that officials of the Justice Department "stole" forty-four copies of the 1980's version of PROMIS -- the proprietary version owned by Inslaw -- "through trickery, fraud and deceit", and then tried covertly to drive Inslaw out of business so that Inslaw could not seek legal redress in the courts. PAUL DeRIENZO Some of these reports said that copies of the software wound up in other places besides the Justice Department -- in other countries. BILL HAMILTON: We have been told, including by people who have been willing to give us sworn affidavits which we submitted in U.S. District Court this year (because they only came forward this year), that what we had been litigating was only the tip of the iceberg; that what they really had done with the software, in addition to not paying us for the copies that they put into the U.S. Attorneys offices, is they copied it and gave it to private sector friends of Ronald Reagan and Ed Meese, so that those friends could sell it to intelligence and law enforcement agencies of countries all over the world. Our software has been illegally sold to Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, France, Germany, Great Britain, Canada, South Korea, Japan. Supposedly, as many as eighty-eight countries were induced to purchase our software by people who had no right to sell it; who were, themselves, supported in their illegal efforts by the United States Government in the White House. PAUL DeRIENZO: Could you go into the story of the Hadron Corporation's coming forward to offer to buy, or in some way, to try and get that software from you at an early stage in this? BILL HAMILTON: The contracting officer at the Justice Department, Peter Veidnix whom, we have since learned, had a preexisting relationship with Hadron in that, before the Justice Department hired him as the contracting officer for the Government in the Inslaw contract, he had been Hadron's contracting officer. He had actually been the U.S. Customs Service contracting officer with Hadron for several contracts that Hadron had at the U.S. Customs Service. On April 11, 1983, Veidnix -- the guy we're talking about -- modified our contract, as I was describing to you, so that he could take delivery of the 1980's version of the software. Approximately one week later, the chairman of Hadron telephoned me and told me that they had in his company the political contacts with Edwin Meese and the White House that would enable Hadron to obtain the Federal Government's case-management software business, but that they needed to acquire title to the PROMIS software first. And for that reason, they were going to purchase our company. I told them I was not interested in selling Inslaw, and the chairman at the time, whose name was Dominick Liti, said: "We have ways of making you sell." In May of `83, Peter Veidnix -- the guy with the preexisting, although then unknown, relationship with Hadron -- started withholding the payments to Inslaw until he could drive us into Chapter Eleven bankruptcy. BILL HAMILTON: Lowell Jensen -- who was the elected District Attorney of Alameda County, California -- his office developed a case-tracking system called DALITE. And Jensen was quite interested in promoting that software for use among the fifty-eight county district attorneys' offices in California. In 1974, Inslaw defeated Jensen's proposal for the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office, and evidently, Jensen bore a grudge after that for having lost out to Inslaw in Los Angeles County which has the biggest district attorney's office in California. When Reagan was elected, Reagan appointed Jensen to head the Criminal Division in Washington, in the Justice Department. And then when Meese became Attorney General in `85, Meese elevated Jensen to his deputy, to become Deputy Attorney General. Jensen played a very important role -- the bankruptcy court found -- in allowing the misconduct against Inslaw to go on, and in declining to stop it, even though he was contacted repeatedly by lawyers on behalf of Inslaw and asked to intervene to stop the misconduct. He never did a thing to stop it! In our investigation, we have been told that Jensen not only did nothing to stop the misconduct, but that he was in charge, while heading the Criminal Division, of orchestrating the effort to drive Inslaw out of business, so that the Justice Department -- once Meese became Attorney General -- could award the PROMIS software business to Earl Brian and other friends of Reagan and Bush. PAUL DeRIENZO: Where does Mr. Casolaro come in? He was doing his own research, and he -- according to the newspaper accounts -- had developed a theory which he called "the Octopus". Are you aware of what Mr. Casolaro was working on at the time of his death? BILL HAMILTON: Yes. I spoke to Danny Casolaro on almost a daily basis for the year that he worked on this investigation. He started August of 1990. And every day, or certainly every other day, I spoke to him. And what Danny had concluded was that a relatively small group of people with backgrounds in U.S. covert intelligence operations, and with contacts high up in the political leadership of the United States Government, were making a lot of money in a number of scandals: BCCI, Iran/Contra, October Surprise, and Inslaw. And they would use the craft that they learned in foreign covert operations to help themselves to large profits through criminal activities; and that some of the proceeds from the illegal sales of our software were laundered through BCCI. PAUL DeRIENZO: In West Virginia they're still saying it was a suicide, but many of his friends and family seem to think it was, in fact, murder. He wasn't in the mood, or the kind of person to take his own life. ...... HARRY MARTIN [of The Napa Valley Sentinel, Napa, California]: You can see the same threads in the October Surprise. You can see the same threads in Iran/Contra. You can see the same threads in the looting of the Savings & Loans: the same type of people; the same type of operations. They all seem to be inteconnected. And Danny Casolaro's theory of an "Octopus" certainly parallels exactly what we have been working on for some time: that that is all interconnected. PAUL DeRIENZO: Now, you say here that the reason that Casolaro was in West Virginia when he was found dead was to meet with gentlemen by the names of Videnieks and Earl Brian. HARRY MARTIN [of The Napa Valley Sentinel, Napa, California]: You know, Videnieks is the man who is believed to have threatened Bill Hamilton, or tried to extort the company from him. And Earl Brian, of course -- there are many, many affidavits out which say he has actually been the one who is selling the software and has basically taken over the software program. PAUL DeRIENZO: Now just to recap -- Earl Brian is the former head of Financial News Network, the owner of the Infotech Corporation which owned the Hadron Corporation, of which the CEO of Hadron at the time called Bill Hamilton up, as president of Inslaw, and said: "We have ways of making you sell." When Inslaw refused to sell, they found that they were then forced into bankruptcy. HARRY MARTIN: Judge Basin ruled that the Federal Government owed Bill Hamilton about eight million dollars. And, of course, right after the judge basically ruled that, the prosecutor for the Justice Department, who was trying to prevent any payment going to Inslaw, replaced the judge on the bench. So the prosecutor in the Inslaw case, and who was against Hamilton and for Meese, ended up -- of course, it was Thornburg at the time -- ended up taking over the judge's job and the judge was not reappointed. PAUL DeRIENZO: How did you find out that Casolaro was going to meet Videnieks and Brian? HARRY MARTIN: Several reporters have networked and found certain notes that he had made certain calls to people. And we have some people now who had very, very close communication with Casolaro at all times. And, in fact, they were supplying him with some of the information. PAUL DeRIENZO: And so they were able to report to you who he was off to see? HARRY MARTIN: That's correct. We didn't take the report from one individual. We took it from several and they all coincided. In fact, we would like to know who was at the Hilton in West Virginia. Room 900 is one of the phone numbers that was in Casolaro's files. We have a whole list of the different phone numbers that Casolaro apparently had called just before he died. And these came from the various sources who were giving that information to Casolaro. PAUL DeRIENZO: And did he ever meet with Videnieks and Brian on that trip to West Virginia? HARRY MARTIN: No. He did not. Now, I understand that Michael Riconosciuto, who I indicated had given the deposition to the Brooks Committee, had an attorney in Philadelphia. And the attorney was verifying Riconosciuto's information on the Inslaw case. He was to meet with a person, and he was found shot to death in his car. And they considered that a suicide as well. PAUL DeRIENZO: Right. There have been a number of ..... HARRY MARTIN: It just goes on and on and on to various people. And, of course, we had the gentleman from the Financial Times in London who was trying to find Johnny Hughes -- who was the bagman to the assassination of the Indian leaders -- to talk to him about that whole tie-in. And, of course, he was found shot. And they said that was suicide as well. PAUL DeRIENZO: Right. That was in Guatemala. HARRY MARTIN: Right. And, of course, we have talked with the people who helped Johnny Hughes get out of the Cabazon Indian tribe reservation at the time that the murders had taken place. The security people had talked to us long ago on this. We did a whole series on the Cabazon before any of this was known. And now they're getting a lot more focus and it's becoming very interesting. PAUL DeRIENZO: What's the conection between Wackenhut and the Cabazon Indians? What is Wackenhut? HARRY MARTIN: Wackenhut is your RoboCop of the future. It has almost four hundred thousand employees. It has taken over the prisons in places like San Antonio and Terminal Island, and they are making a bid now to take over fire departments and police departments. You'll find it's almost like a private army. If you saw the movie: RoboCop, the corporation that was running that police department -- this is exactly what Wackenhut is becoming. In other words, it's taking over the functions of law enforcement on contract base. And they were formed by former FBI people. And some of the top CIA people went into that organization when they retired from their system. HARRY MARTIN [of the Napa Sentinel, Napa California]: Wackenhut was using the Cabazon Indian tribe because they felt that the Indian nation was independent, and therefore, they could manufacture and do whatever they needed to do at that base without violating any U.S. laws. PAUL DeRIENZO: Where is that located -- the Cabazon Reservation? HARRY MARTIN: It's in Indio [California], near Palm Springs. PAUL DeRIENZO: And is it a large tract? HARRY MARTIN: It's not a huge thing, but they have been able to convert it into gambling casinos and manufacturing plants and everything else. And of course, there has been a major upheaval among the Indians, trying to take back their tribe. PAUL DeRIENZO: How did Wackenhut get into this situation, in control of this tribe? HARRY MARTIN: Basically, Dr. Nichols -- who was associated with the assassination of Allende [JD: the assassination of the democratically elected President of Chile, circa 1976] and the attempted assassinations of Castro -- came in and said, "We're going to make money for you", built the casinos up and then brought Wackenhut in. And he has subsequently been sent to jail for attempted murders. The California Department of Justice has a file on him that shows Mafia ties and C.I.A. ties and everything else. It's EXTREMELY complex. I mean, it's hard to do [understand] in a few minutes when we've been doing it for a year. ANDREW PHILLIPS: This is WBAI in New York. We're in a membership drive. We're on a line to California with Harry Martin of the Napa Sentinel. PAUL DeRIENZO: It's just so amazing -- this story -- because it really started with a blurb in the New York Times that said a reporter looking into a case was found dead. And now we're talking about people who were involved in the so-called "Secret Team", the "Octopus", almost like a secret government within a government in the United States. And Mr. Nichols was one of those people who was mentioned earlier by Bill Hamilton as a leading member of the "Octopus". So you're saying that Mr. Nichols is the head of Wackenhut, or he's connected with Wackenhut? HARRY MARTIN: No. Basically, he was put in charge -- in other words, like chairman of the board, or something like that -- of the Cabazon Indians. But he has worked closely with them [Wackenhut] and his ties have been with them for years. And, as I say, you'll find in some publications and from his own boasts and other documents that he was instrumental in the assassination of Allende in Chile. So, in other words, he has been a worker in the company for a long time. ANDREW PHILLIPS: Just listening to this presentation, you're giving -- in such a matter-of-fact tone of voice -- the most incredible information which you say you've been covering now for many months. And, I suppose, we've been seeing little bits and pieces of .... HARRY MARTIN: You have to understand, I've lived with this for a long time and perhaps to me it's just commonplace. Now, for instance, the San Francisco Chronicle, just last week, began a series on the Cabazon Indians. And it's been a long time before they've done anything about it. And then they began to bring in all those areas: the Wackenhut [story], the manufacturing of the biochemical warfare agents, and so forth. So, they finally caught onto it. ..... I guess, on the East Coast, you're not hearing that much about it. But Bill Hamilton has been fighting this. His attorney, Elliot Richardson [JD: the former Attorney General of the United States], is very well known. And the courts ruled way back -- Judge Bason ruled that this whole thing was deceitful, theft. Not only that, but his opinion was originally upheld by another court. And now, it has been overturned. And how they overturned it wasn't to say that he was wrong in the decision that it was theft. What they ruled was that he didn't have the jurisdiction to make such a ruling. And Thornburgh has NOT cooperated AT ALL with the Brooks Committee. When Sam Nunn was doing his own committee [hearings] on Inslaw in the Senate, there was no cooperation to the point that they ended up having to, basically, drop the hearings. HARRY MARTIN: But one of the Senate investigators is on record as saying that he was told by members of the Justice Department that Inslaw [affair] is so dirty and so deep that it is much bigger and more explosive than Watergate. PAUL DeRIENZO: I see, from my investigations over the years -- I understand the type of organization that Wackenhut is. I've covered them in writing before and read stuff about them, and I know their connections to the C.I.A. It's interesting reading your article here about some of the capabilities of PROMIS, the software that was stolen from Inslaw. And that there's an updated version in the works that would allow the deduction of future or potential actions of a person being traced. HARRY MARTIN: It's really frightening to think what the computer age is going to do to individuality. PAUL DeRIENZO: Can you tell us a little bit about what this software does? It's worth a lot of money, on one hand. But, on the other hand, it seems that this software has a tremendous amount of power. HARRY MARTIN: It has power because, again, it was designed by Bill to trace and track everything. Consider the number of court cases and the number of witnesses, and the number of people in the witness protection program, and the number of criminals that exist in the United States. This was to be a nationwide system that could track all that. I mean, that's tremendous information. It's tremendous power. And it's quite an innovation. And, of course, it has been used by the Israelis and some of the others for tracking military. Now, we ran into a strange case ourselves. Back in the early `80's I was the publisher of several defense publications. And the Israelis came to us with a program to market to the different defense companies in the United States. It dealt with the complete military structure, and who's who and what's what. I mean, it even got down almost to the number of shoelaces: how many handguns -- everything. And the Israelis said that they couldn't market it. Later on, what we found out was the reason that they couldn't technically market it -- besides that it was Mossad information -- but it also dealt, probably, with the Inslaw software which they should not have had. You know, they didn't have the license to it. I found those military reports and I notified Bill Hamilton. I found them in a box in storage. I had forgotten all about them, and the letters that went with them. The fact is, if you see those reports, it tells you EVERY SINGLE ITEM of any military organization. I'm talking about: every vehicle, every handgun, every rifle. It gets into numbers and details. And that's what this software has this tremendous power to do. ANDREW PHILLIPS: Give us a sense of how valuable this is. What sort of dollar value do you put on this kind of software? HARRY MARTIN: Inslaw had a ten million dollar contract just to do the Justice Department. Mind you now, we're talking about intelligence agencies throughout the United States and many countries, and we're talking about even the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. So, if it's ten million dollars just for the U.S. Justice Department, what is it to military intelligence and to all these other organizations around the world? It's got to be mind-boggling. But remember -- it wasn't because of the particular dollar value of Inslaw as much as the "Eagle" project to replace all computers in the whole Justice System. But it required the Inslaw software program in it. That's where the value was -- in setting up all that hardware. And they needed to get the Inslaw in order to get the contract fulfilled. PAUL DeRIENZO: It's my understanding that there are a number of companies -- that were built up along the lines of the Wackenhut security group -- that, in fact, owe their beginnings to intelligence personnel who were purged in the `70's after the revelations of the involvement in Chile and with the involvement in the assassination attempts in Cuba, and the Bay of Pigs, etc. etc.; and that the Brooks Intelligence Committee led to a certain amount of light being shined on these activities, and a number of these people were retired early, and they went into the private security field. Also, these people, who went into the private security field, made an alliance with a number of wealthy rightwing individuals who collected private personal files, tracking liberals and potential trouble-makers to the numbers of thousands and tens of thousands of names. As a matter of fact, I did a story a few years ago on a case where the Los Angeles Police Department was told that they had to get rid of these files that they had been keeping from the 60's and 70's on radicals or whatever; liberals, really -- judges, etc. They lied and said they had destroyed this material, and then it was discovered in one of their officers' storage facility. And it was then discovered soon afterward that the contents of the files had been sent to an agency of the John Birch Society that specifically followed and created its own database on individuals. So, you can believe that there are out there private organizations, that are well funded, that keep track of people whom they feel that the C.I.A. and the F.B.I. have been scared away from following. HARRY MARTIN: Yes. For instance, Riconosciuto was shown, by a Congressional committee, a list from Wackenhut which is a complete (I don't know if you want to call it a hit list) dossier on various newspaper reporters throughout the country; for instance, on a newspaper reporter in Seattle who was successful in blocking two nuclear power plants from being built. And this is a complete dossier on all these reporters, as well. So they were tracking those things. And maybe this is where Danny and some of those names got on that list. I have not gotten a copy of the list yet. It is in Congressman Miller's [of California?] office from what I understand. We're trying to get the list because I think that would be a pretty shocking revelation for the national media to carry. As you know, sometimes the national media will not carry anything until someone like Danny Casolaro, a reporter, goes down. Then they'll write a story about it. But the main issue is lost. They're more concerned with the death of a reporter. PAUL DeRIENZO: How did this list become publicized? How did it get into the Congressman's hands? HARRY MARTIN: Well, apparently it was part of an investigation. I'm not sure if it's from the Brooks Committee. But apparently it's a list that was compiled on the behavior of different journalists. .... Basically, it has [identifies] people who have not gone along with the system of what they [the trackers] believe the system should be. PAUL DeRIENZO: But it seems that on the bottom of it, after all the complexity is stripped away, it's the same old story of following potential trouble-makers and liberals, investigators, etc., ad nauseum. ANDREW PHILLIPS: The question I want to ask is: Do you think the American people are ready to hear this? Because if we do hear this -- then what the HELL are we going to do about it? HARRY MARTIN [of the Napa Sentinel, Napa, California]: If you get any films -- you rent your films each night for your VCR -- those same themes are there. For instance, police brutality, or RoboCop is an example of the Wackenhut Corporation as far as the private companies taking over law enforcement duties. You get into movies in the C.I.A. [vein] showing that they're getting away with these things. You see, the public is constantly exposed to it, and they probably say: "Yeah, but what's it got to do with me?" ..... Right now, I think, as long as the economy is fair, and there's food on the table, and their individual lives are not threatened, they can accept scandal in government. That doesn't mean they like it or want it. But it's like: "Well, I'm powerless to do anything about it." And it's really the responsibility of the media to get that out. I think there's been a lot of fault in the main media for ignoring the "Inslaws" and ignoring the "October Surprises", and for ignoring a lot of these things. They don't have to agree with the program, but they can certainly start their own investigations and let their findings be revealed. You know, if the October Surprise didn't take place -- fine. Then these major media should come out and say: "The evidence doesn't show it. Or, here's what we proved, and we found this guy to be here instead of there." But they totally ignore it because the corporate board room is controlling the major media now, saying: "We don't want to bother with it!" And it's a shame. PAUL DeRIENZO: Mr. Martin -- one final question. When the law enforcement officials seemed to start -- whether in the Justice Department or the C.I.A. or the F.B.I. or at local levels -- start taking positions, political positions in support of certain factions that they feel comfortable with, politically; what does that mean for American democracy? Does our democracy .... HARRY MARTIN: We had a police chief here, for instance, endorsing candidates for the assembly, and even for district attorney. Now, the district attorney's office has got to be somewhat neutral from the police department. We fought those endorsements and got the district attorney thrown out of office. But basically, it means that when partisan politics creeps into the law enforcement field, then we are going to have some real problems because it means that the politicians are going to be able to dictate more and more, and they'll be beholding, also, to the support of the police departments, and therefore, they'll be less ready to correct bad situations like in Los Angeles with the King case. It's not good! It taints the system. PAUL DeRIENZO: This whole day's programming really started with a desire to look into a newspaper clip about a reporter who was killed, and it turned into one of the more interesting and deep stories that I've encountered in recent years. At least not since WBAI was involved in uncovering the Iran-Contra drug connection in which we discovered that cocaine was being shipped back [to the U.S.A.] in the same planes that were carrying arms down to the Contras. And you brought up the question of the Cabazon Indians and their being taken advantage of by these people who are now manufacturing what -- chemical warfare [agents]? HARRY MARTIN: Chemical warfare [agents] are being manufactured there [on the Cabazon Indian reservation] to be sent down to the Contras. So it means that that war down there was not just bullets. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The following excerpts are fragments selected from a lengthy article published in the VILLAGE VOICE, October 15, 1991. The article glances upon a great many diverse and fascinating facets of the story surrounding the violent death of an intrepid reporter named Danny Casolaro. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ THE LAST DAYS OF DANNY CASOLARO by James Ridgeway and Doug Vaughan MARTINSBURG, WEST VIRGINIA -- At about 12:30 in the afternoon of Saturday, August 10, a maid knocked on the door of room 517 at the Sheraton Martinsburg Inn, just off Interstate 81 on the outskirts of this old mill town. Nobody answered, so she used her passkey to open the door; though it had both a security bolt and a chain lock on the inside, neither one was attached. The bed didn't appear slept in, though it was turned down, and clothes had been laid out neatly at it's foot. Then the maid glanced into the bathroom. She saw a lot of blood on the tile floor and screamed. Another hotel maid came rushing in to help. When she peaked inside the bathroom, she saw a man's nude body lying in the blood-filled tub. There was blood not only on the tile floor but spattered up onto the wall above as well; she nearly fainted at the sight. One of the maids called the desk on the room phone and, after sending up a maintenance man, the desk immediately dialed 911. Within five minutes, three Martinsburg city police officers were threading their way past the horrified maids and maintenance man clustered in the hallway and into Room 517. A team of paramedics from the local fire department joined them a few minutes later. Squeezing into the tiny bathroom, they found a white male in his early forties with deep cuts on both wrists: three or four wounds on the right and seven or eight on the left, made with a sharp, bladed object. There was no other trauma to the body that would indicate any sort of struggle; there was a half-empty, corked bottle of red wine on the floor by the tub and a broken hotel glass beside it. When they lifted the body out, they found a single-edge razor blade -- the kind used to scrape windows or slice open packages -- at the bottom of the bloody water in the bath, along with an empty can of Milwaukee beer, a paper hotel glass coaster, and two white plastic garbage bags, the kind used in wastepaper baskets. On the desk in the bedroom the cops found an empty Mead composition notebook and a legal pad from which a single page had been removed. The page lay near a plastic Bic pen, and in its ink there was a note: To those who I love the most, Please forgive me for the worst possible thing I could have done. Most of all I'm sorry to my son. I know deep down inside that God will let me in. There were no other papers, folders, documents of any sort, nor any briefcase in the room, only the man's wallet, stuffed with credit cards. According to the driver's license, the man's name was J. Daniel Casolaro of Fairfax, Virginia. Although his death was tentatively ruled a suicide, back in Washington, D.C., his friends and family quickly protested that decision, and reports in the media were soon suggesting that Danny Casolaro had been murdered. For in this, the year of conspiracies, Danny Casolaro happened to be one of a small army of freelance journalists exploring the possibility that the powers of the national security state had been used to manipulate domestic politics. In particular, Casolaro was interested in what he called the "Octopus," a network of individuals and institutions that he believed had secretly masterminded a whole series of scandals, from the Iran-Contra affair and the S&L debacle to the BCCI collapse and the 1980 October Surprise deal. In the weeks before his death Casolaro had spoken frequently about threats on his life, and just before he left for Martinsburg he had told his brother, "If anything happens to me, don't believe it's an accident." Many of the friends and sources who spoke to him in the last days of his life recalled that he seemed euphoric and quite certain that he was on the brink of proving the existence of his Octopus; he did not sound like a candidate for suicide to them. More suspicious, before the family could be told of Casolaro's death or an autopsy performed, the body was embalmed by a local funeral home; early press reports added that the hotel room had been quickly cleaned, perhaps to obscure any trace of a crime. The wildest story even suggested that the undertaker was an employee of the C.I.A., hired to clean up after agency assassinations. Even at Casolaro's funeral, the family felt engulfed by mysteries. As his mother, brothers, sisters and close friends watched from beneath a canopy, a man in a tan raincoat and a beribboned black soldier in Army dress uniform walked up to the casket. the soldier laid a medal on the lid, saluted and both men quickly walked away. No one recognized either man; Danny had never served in or covered the military. The medal was buried with the coffin. ..... Riconosciuto told Hamilton that Ed Meese had taken PROMIS and allegedly given it to one of his cronies, Earl W. Brian, who served as Reagan's Secretary of Health while he was Governor of California, and later became head of United Press International. According to Riconosciuto, Brian then sold PROMIS to police forces -- including secret police -- around the world, from South Korea to Israel to Iraq. The same qualities that made PROMIS ideal for tracking criminals in the U.S. courts made it perfect for keeping tabs on terrorists or, needless to say, political dissidents. As Riconosciuto claimed to have adapted it, the software could then operate as a kind of computer network bug -- anything the security apparatus that used PROMIS knew, the U.S. could know, simply by linking up over the telephone. Almost at once, Hamilton says, he told Casolaro about Riconosciuto. Casolaro's phone records indicate he spent many hours in conversation with Riconosciuto, and Casolaro's friends say that for several months in late 1990, Casolaro talked of little else. The 44-year-old Riconosciuto is -- to put it mildly -- a colorful character, wilder than anything in "The Falcon and the Snowman". He was a gifted child: When he was just 10 years old, Michael wired his parents' neighborhood with a working private telephone system that undercut Ma Bell; in the eighth grade, he won a science fair with a model for a three-dimensional sonar system. By the time he was a teenager, he had won so many science fairs with exhibits of laser technology that he was invited to be a summer research assistant at Stanford's prestigious Cooper Vapor Laser Laboratory. Dr. Arthur Schalow, a Nobel laureate, remembers him even now. "You don't forget a 16-year-old youngster who shows up with his own argon laser," he told Casolaro. In 1973, Riconosciuto had been sentenced by a federal judge in Seattle to two years in prison for the manufacture of psychedelic drugs and jumping bail. At the time, his father testified that Michael was engaged in "underwater research" and had discussed "using electronic means to clean up pollutants in water." The narcotics agents who arrested the young Riconosciuto said they'd had him under surveillance off and on since 1968. Riconosciuto told Casolaro, as he had told numerous other reporters before him, that after his release he had become research director for a joint venture between Wackenhut, the Coral Gables [Florida] private security outfit, and the Cabazon Indian band of Indio, California, that was developing and manufacturing arms and other military materiel -- including night-vision goggles, machine guns, and biological and chemical weapons -- for export. Riconosciuto claimed that he had invented the fuel-air explosive; he also said that he had encountered a variety of famous people who dropped by the Cabazon reservation from time to time. For example, he claimed that he had met the Jackal, the famous assassin; talked on the phone with Admiral Bobby Inman of the C.I.A.; and even tape-recorded a secret meeting with William Casey at a Washington, D.C. country club (according to Riconosciuto, that tape was his insurance policy against getting bumped off by the big boys in the spook world). Riconosciuto went on to "reveal" that he was the man who had "pulled the plug" on the Nugan Hand Bank, the Australian bank with C.I.A. ties that collapsed in 1980; he also claimed to be an effective lobbyist on Capitol Hill, responsible for swinging five key votes to free up $100 million for the secret contra war against the Sandinistas. Once, after lunch with then F.B.I. Director William Webster, he had laid plans to launder spook money throuyh NASA. This was all a bit much for the Hamiltons to take in, but the computer company owners listened with fascination and deep suspicion to his tales involving PROMIS. In an affidavit presented in federal court, Riconosciuto told them that Casey -- who had been outside counsel to Wackenhut before joining the Reagan White House -- had hired him and Brian, as employees of Wackenhut, to carry out the October Surprise deal. Riconosciuto described how a Justice Department official had allegedly ordered him to modify PROMIS for use by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. He claimed that Meese had rewarded Brian for his assistance during the October Surprise by giving him the software outright, which he could then sell at a considerable profit around the world. (Brian has denied any connection to the Inslaw case.) Casolaro and the Hamiltons thought Riconosciuto's tale was largely wacko, but they found certain things he told them to be true -- particularly that the Wackenhut joint venture existed, and that the Mounties had apparently misappropriated PROMIS (the Canadian police have denied using PROMIS). They theorized that maybe Riconosciuto was using his contacts with the Hamiltons as leverage with other people who were threatening him: If his enemies didn't cooperate with Riconosciuto, then he would spill more and more secrets to Casolaro and the Hamiltons. In April 1991, SHORTLY AFTER giving his affidavit in the Inslaw case, Riconosciuto was arrested for the manufacture and sale of methamphetamines in Washington state. He has been in jail since then, often claiming to be a "political prisoner." ..... At 8:30 that evening, Olga returned to Casolaro's house to look for him. The phone rang. A man's voice said, "You son of a bitch. You're dead." ..... Martinsburg police detective Sergeant George Swartswood called Danny Casolaro's mother's house and told the family that Casolaro was dead, an apparent suicide. By the middle of that day, National Public Radio was broadcasting the first reports about Casolaro's mysterious death and "the Octopus." ..... This is how [Danny's brother] Tony Casolaro [a physician] remembers that day: "My mother first called about 9:30 on Monday morning. She called me within 20 minutes. When I spoke to [Swartswood], he said, `We found your brother at the Sheraton in Martinsburg. It looks like he committed suicide.' And I said, `Well how did he do it?' And he said, `We're not sure yet. We found some broken glass, and we found a razor, and his arms were cut.' I said, `You mean wrists?' And he said, `Yeah, wrists and arms.' I said, `Did you know he was a reporter working on a story?' He said, `No. What are you talking about?' I said, `He told me four weeks ago: if he got killed in an accident, not to believe it because he was threatened.' He said, `Oh.' I said, `Did you find any of his papers? He had all these papers with him.' He said, `I don't think we found any papers.' I said, `Are you going to do an autopsy?' He said, `No. I don't think so.'" "And then he sort of stepped back and said I ought to talk to the medical examiner. I said, `Who decided not to [conduct an autopsy]?' He said, `the corrner, Sandra Brining.' I didn't think of all the things I should have asked him at the time." After talking to Sandra Brining, Tony Casolaro finally got through to Dr. James Frost in the West Virginia Medical Examiner's office. Frost said he would conduct an autopsy on Wednesday. "I told him the whole method of death ..... even if he were going to commit suicide ..... I'm not going to say he never would. You never say that. Anybody could," Tony Casolaro contined. "But I said, if you look at the person, if you look at how enthusiastic he was, and if you look at the method of dying -- Danny didn't like needles. He was supposed to have a treadmill done about a year ago: he got there and they told him they wanted to do a stress Valium test, where they put a needle in his arm. He said, `Forget it.' and left. My partner was really mad at him. He said, `You're not going to put any needles in my arm.'" "And Frost said, `Well, you know, that is kind of curious. We'll go ahead and do the autopsy and we'll see.'" "[Then {later}] he said to me, `You know, he's been embalmed.' This was Monday afternoon. I said, `What? You're kidding. How did that happen?' He said, `I don't know.' I said, `Is that something that's standard?' He said, `No. It's quite atypical. It's against the law, in fact. Weren't you asked?' I said, `No.' [He said], `Well, then, I don't quite know. Maybe Ms. Brining authorized it. [Brining said she released the body to the funeral home because she regarded it as a suicide.] But really, they're supposed to notify the family first.' I said, `Well, I can guarantee you nobody asked us.' I said, `Doesn't that impede your autopsy?' `Well,' he said, `it makes it more difficult.' Those were his exact words." THE VILLAGE VOICE 36 Cooper Square New York, NY 10003 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The following transcript was made from a tape of a broadcast by WBAI-FM 99.5 in New York City on September 29, 1991. I missed the first few minutes of the interview, but the background of the story is thus: Fred Alvarez, the deputy tribal chief of the Cabazon Indian tribe, found out that the monetary proceeds from the Bingo Palace -- set up on his tribe's reservation presumably to reward the tribe for permitting the Wackenhut Security Corporation to use the reservation for weapons and biochemical warfare development -- were being laundered and used to finance the Contras in Nicaragua. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: .... and looked at the books he [Alvarez] realized that the Indians were receiving no money, and in fact, the money was being fairly evenly split between [members of] a partnership called the Bingo Palace Inc. As a result of his investigation, there was anger and outrage by the Nichols family and by those Indians on the reservation who supported them. Fred experienced death threats. He experienced sabotage to his motorcycle. He experienced terrorism, and finally he gave a series of interviews to the Desert Sun which was a newspaper in the general area. And at the time, he said, "As I give you these interviews, I'm a dead man." Shortly thereafter, he and two other men, who just happened to be in his home at the time, were executed. There was evidence that Fred had been tortured. And they were shot, execution style. Now, there was no autopsy done or [investigation] allowed of the scene. Shortly after that, the house that the murders took place in was razed to the ground. Linda Streeter Dukic, who is Fred Alvarez's sister, and his parents, Phyllis and Leroy Alvarez, succeeded in reopening the investigation briefly. In 1985, Gov. Dukemejian of California ordered the attorney general's office to look into it. But something happened at that time that was very strange because just shortly after they reopened the investigation, they immediately closed it. We now know that there was a key suspect in the contract murders of those three individuals. But no indictment was brought down. In fact, it's my belief that a cover-up took place at the state level. PAUL DeRIENZO: Do you know the name of the person who was the suspect? VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: Well, I have a three-page letter, that was written June 26, 1991, that names the suspect. And I'll quote from the letter. You can imagine our shock when the investigators from the attorney general's office informed us that the boyfriend was, in fact, John Paul Nichols Jr., the key suspect. PAUL DeRIENZO: That's the son of John P. Nichols, who at one time was the administrator of the Cabazon Indian reservation. VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: Yes, and who still holds tremendous power there. Just recently -- I think, in order to justify the distribution of funds -- the senior Mr. Nichols has been named counselor to the Indians down there on the Cabazon reservation. PAUL DeRIENZO: Tell us a little bit about the Cabazon Indians. Where is this reservation located? VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: The reservation is located near Indio, California, which is just outside of Palm Springs. And the reservation itself is a reservation of large acreage. It has some seventeen hundred acres in the desert. It has the usual water and mineral rights on the reservation. But the membership of the tribe itself is very low: twenty-four members at the time that the Nichols took over around 1978. And there were some changes in Indian land law that took place at the Congressional level in 1978 that allowed white managers to come in over the tribes and manage the affairs of the reservations -- to actually broker the assets of the reservations, and to enter into contracts with other entities. As part of the senior Mr. Nichols management of the Indian reservation, numerous joint ventures were entered into between the Nichols family, operating for the Cabazons, and the Wackenhut Security Corporation out of Coral Gables, Florida. The Wackenhut Security Corporation has heavy C.I.A. ties and ties directly to the White House. [JD:] On October 22, 1991, Robert Knight, the host of UNDERCURRENTS, conducted an interview, which was broadcast over WBAI-FM (99.5) in New York City, with the Nixon Administration's U.S. Attorney General, Elliot Richardson. Richardson will always be remembered in history as the man who, when ordered by Nixon to fire Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox -- which was a reprehensible attempt to hinder justice and misuse presidential powers -- refused to fire Cox and, instead, resigned in protest. Well, ironically, Elliot Richardson is now the legal representative of the Inslaw Software Company. And in this interview, he said that Attorney General Thornburgh never even answered his letter requesting a special investigation, headed by an independent special prosecutor with no ties of any sort to Administration circles. Richardson went on to say that two particularly suspicious details in the Casolaro murder, among others, make it more likely that Casolaro was murdered than that he committed suicide: 1) Casolaro's briefcase was missing when his body was discovered, despite the fact that he always guarded that briefcase with his life. 2) His body was embalmed illegally, before an autopsy could be conducted. This story ought to be brought to the attention of the American people. Save the installments of this ongoing series. Mail them to conscientious citizens whom you might know. Or find them in the Yellow Pages of your telephone directory under "clergy", "senior citizens", and "associations". Urge them to support the appeal of Elliot Richardson in demanding that their Congressperson call for a special investigation headed by special prosecutor to delve into this sinister web of treachery that now undermines the supposed democratic society which is in our care and which will be passed on to our children's generation. John DiNardo PAUL DeRIENZO: Describe some of the projects that were entertained on the Cabazon reservation. Now, I hear that there was, besides the bingo parlors, off-track betting, a housing project called Indian Village Housing that was going to bring in luxury housing for whites on reservation land, and the construction, also, of a toxic waste dump, a power plant that, because of the status of the reservaton, would not be covered by E.P.A. regulations. VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: There was all of that and much more. There were arms produced and manufactured, and proposed through a company called the Cabazon Arms Corporation which, again, was Wackenhut and the Cabazon Security Corporation. And that arms corporation had demonstrations of night-vision goggles, and chemical warfare weapons, and machine guns during the time that these items would be necessary to supply to the Contras. Many of the people who were instrumental in, and operatives in, the Iran/Contra [conspiracy] appeared on a range just outside of the reservation to view the weapons in the early 1980's. They also had a Cabazon Trading Company which dealt largely with tobacco and coffee imports. They had a Cabazon Gas & Oil Corporation that dealt with research connected directly to Hercules Research Corporation in Hercules, California, which was partially owned by Michael Riconosciuto. Michael Riconosciuto is a C.I.A. operative who was trying to leave "the company" [the C.I.A.'s nickname], and who has given a declaration [affidavit] in the Inslaw bankruptcy. PAUL DeRIENZO: We played a tape of an interview, that was done at a Pacifica station in Los Angeles, with Michael Riconosciuto who is now in jail. And we spoke with Harry Martin earlier a bit about Michael Riconosciuto. He was involved with the Inslaw case in that he gave testimony shortly before he was arrested that he was involved in rewriting this software for intelligence purposes on the Cabazon reservation, and that he was also involved in selling this software to various intelligence agencies around the world -- this software that belongs to the Inslaw Company which Inslaw and bankruptcy judges maintain was taken illegally from Inslaw by the Justice Department. VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: Yes. In fact, I think the words were, "stolen by trickery, fraud and deceit" from Inslaw Corporation. That's the PROMIS software. And it's obstensibly in use, as we speak, within the United States Justice Department, but also in the intelligence communities of Canada, Austria, Australia, India, Iraq, Iran and parts of Saudi Arabia. PAUL DeRIENZO: Now, what is the connection between the Inslaw case, the Cabazon tribe, and Mr. Riconosciuto? VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: The declaration that Michael Riconosciuto presented, in the Inslaw case on March 21, 1991, was absolutely devastating because he alleged that Dr. Earl Brian, who owns UPI and FNN News Network, actually took the software through an operative by the name of Peter Videnieks who was the government auditor for the Inslaw contract with the Justice Department. Mr. Videnieks obtained the software, gave it to Dr. Earl Brian, and Dr. Earl Brian presented it to Michael Riconosciuto with instructions that it be altered or adapted for use by the Canadian and other intelligence communities. Michael complied and did as he was told and he did, in fact, alter that software. And he named the locations where the work took place in the declaration of March 21st. But in addition to that, he also went into great detail about the threats that had been made against him by Peter Videnieks who was the Justice Department employee. And, in effect, what Mr. Videnieks told Michael Riconosciuto, according to the declaration, was that he would be subject to prosecution in a case that had yet to be announced by the Justice Department -- a case involving a Mr. Robert Ferrante and Consolidated Savings & Loan of Southern California -- if he continued to cooperate with the Inslaw people in testifying before Jack Brooks' House Judiciary Committee. PAUL DeRIENZO: And he was, in fact, arrested. VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: Eight days later. He was arrested and he was held on one count of conspiracy to distribute metaamphetamines. He is being held at Pearce County Jail in the state of Washington. VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: Earl Brian was detailed at length by a reporter for the Financial Post by the name of Eric Reguly on August 19, 1991. Now, Mr. Reguly had received the same death threats as the slain reporter Danny Casolaro when he started looking into Mr. Earl Brian. And anyone who has researched Earl Brian's early life is left with many, many questions about everything from whether the man is truly a doctor -- he did not finish his internship at Stanford; he left a quarter short of [finishing] his internship at Stanford University -- to exactly what role he played in the Vietnam War that would result in all of the many medals which the United States Government claims he received in the two years he served there as a physician. Mr.Reguly's article was entitled: "Questions Grow as Big Daddy Watches His Empire Crumble". Big Daddy is the nickname for Dr. Earl Brian. And he had an extensive financial network, from a company called Biotech Capital Corporation -- where Mrs. Edwin Meese had invested -- to the Financial News Network where he was accused of cooking the books by his own auditors. In addition to that, this article goes into great detail about Dr. Earl Brian's links to the U.S. and Israeli intelligence communities. Many people have testified in the article that Dr. Earl Brian's nickname in the intelligence community was "Cash". And that would tie directly into what Michael Riconosciuto is alleging: that both he and Earl Brian, together, arranged for the transfer of forty million dollars for the "October Surprise" to retain the American hostages past the inauguration of Ronald Reagan. PAUL DeRIENZO: Could you just cite that article for us one more time? VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: Certainly; August 19, 1991, in the Financial Post, by Eric Reguly. Eric Reguly is the bureau chief for the Financial Post which is Canada's equivalent of the Financial Times. Now, anyone who has been following the story of the deaths that have occurred since Michael Riconosciuto began talking on March 21st, might be aware of the fact that one of Mr. Reguly's compatriots -- a man by the name of Anson Ng, who was a stringer for the Financial Times -- was executed in Guatemala as he began investigating the links between the Cabazon Indian reservation and the execution of Fred Alvarez, BCCI, and the Bank of America. PAUL DeRIENZO: We're speaking with Virginia McCollough, free-lance reporter, here on WBAI. We're in the middle of a pledge marathon, and we're discussing the Inslaw case and its connection to BCCI and "October Surprise", and a whole list of activities that seem to be so intertwined and folding back in all different directions as to make one believe that the theory of an "Octopus" was true -- that maybe Danny Casolaro was getting close to something when he was killed looking for the last link in the chain, the conspiracy, which he called the "Octopus". It's just about 2:30 here in New York. And we need some volunteers to come and help us answer phones for our pledge marathon. How does this tie in? I've heard it said that these people who were being named as involved in the "October Surprise", the situation on the Cabazon reservation, the Iran-Contra affair (and how that relates to this conspiracy that seems to be developing with a lot of connections) these are not the real C.I.A. These are people who seem to be working on the outside of the C.I.A. itself -- people who seem to be associates of Edwin Meese, associates of Ronald Reagan -- people who seem to be using their positions that they had, being associates of people in power, to enrich themselves. Is this, in fact, the case? Or are there any connections to what we would call the real C.I.A.? VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: Well, it's my understanding, from talking to a lot of the people who have come forward to me lately, that there is a war within the C.I.A. itself. There are two warring factions. There is a faction they call "B.B.", the Bush Boys, and a faction of (I guess you could identify them as a faction of) old world C.I.A. intelligence men. Those men usually come under the heading of the Naval Intelligence Group. And the Naval Intelligence Group is of the opinion that the C.I.A. has been prostituted by the Bush Boys for personal benefit and for directing the political philosophy of the United States under both Reagan and Bush. There have been several mysterious plane crashes, that, as you might be aware, have had many C.I.A. operatives on them. The most famous of them, of course, was the Lockerbie [Scotland], [Pan Am] 103 crash. And this war seems to have gone on for quite some time. VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: And this war [within the C.I.A.] seems to have gone on for quite some time, possibly as far back as the early Reagan years. Maybe as far back as the Nixon years. Certainly, Michael Riconosciuto's family and the family of friends -- the W. Patrick Moriarty group -- were long-time exparte kitchen cabinet members of the Nixon Administration. When Michael was first arrested on March 28th, I had been in touch with Bill Hamilton at this time, since November when Bill first started hearing from Michael. And Bill had phoned me (Bill Hamilton is the owner of Inslaw) and asked me if I knew or was aware of Michael Riconosciuto. And I had been because here in California in 1984 and 1985 there had been a scandal where the "safe and sane" fireworks king, W. Patrick Moriarty, had been arrested and put in jail for bribing government officials from the Governor on down to the Speaker of the House, Willie Brown. And at that time, we did research into Mr. Moriarty and his "safe and sane" fireworks kingdom which was Red Devil Fireworks and Pyrotronics, and was also connected to the Bank of Irvine. And we found out that his long-time personal friend and operative was a man named Marshall Riconosciuto. We also found out that when we wanted to investigate Marshall's son Michael, we came up against a stone wall. There was no available information other than we could determine; that he was a child prodigy and was an expert in both explosives and in computer hardware and software. It seemed as though he had no previous life. And after I started talking to Michael after he was jailed in April -- on a fairly regular basis, sometimes two or three times a day -- the information, that he has given me and had FAXed to me from third parties, checks out. And I believe that he is exactly what he says he is. He's a C.I.A. operative who wants to leave "the Company" and go home to Momma and the kids. And the Government is going to make sure he doesn't do that. PAUL DeRIENZO: The idea of an "Octopus" or a "Secret Team", on the one had, it matches. On the other hand, the Federal Emergency Management Agency's approach .... If we remember, back in 1987 it came out that Oliver North, in his role as organizer of "the Enterprise", which was doing the Iran-Contra drugs for arms pipeline, had also made some contacts with the Federal Emergency Management Agency [FEMA] in the sense of dealing with [American citizens] opponents of U.S. foreign policy toward Central America in the case of a war between the United States and Nicaragua. And it came out that there were actually plans on file to sweep people up -- sweep activists up -- in case of a war in Central America. Although you haven't mentioned anything that directly connects what we're saying to that, it seems to tie in with the enforcement arm of .... you mention companies like Wackenhut, for example, that have a long history of involvement in keeping files on people, and in tracking dissidents. The Inslaw PROMIS software itself had that purpose. VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: Had that purpose, and more important, had the full capability of doing it. It is the Cadillac of software systems, if you will use that term, as far as tying directly into the Cabazon with the Federal Emergency Management Agency's plan to arrest, jail and hold in detention camps political dissidents of all kinds. Harry Martin has done an interesting article that appeared in his paper on the 24th [of September]. And I draw your audience's attention to the Napa Sentinel which is Harry Martin's paper. It seems to be at the forefront of a lot of information about all of "the Octopus's" many tentacles. Harry did an article regarding Dr. Earl Brian and Edwin Meese, and the origin of the original mind control, behavior control systems that were used initially in California, and probably were the forerunners of the FEMA plan to jail political dissidents. And it goes so far as to surgically alter their behavior, or to alter their behavior through drugs. [JD: Such naziistic crimes against the sovereignty of the human individual are portrayed in Woody Allen's SLEEPER and in Stanley Kubrick's A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.] And in talking with Linda Dukic, who is Fred Alvarez's sister, she informs me that virtually every Indian in the Cabazon Indian tribe has been sent, at one time or another, to various hospitals for treatment of "drug" or "alcohol" addiction. VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: I find that particularly interesting because Dr. Paul Nichols is now an advisor to the Indians. And within the last ten days there was a white gentleman who had been a longtime employee of the Bingo Palace, there on the Cabazon reservation, and who refused to go to Dr. Nichols for treatment. As a consequence, he was fired from the Bingo Palace. The Nichols family, acting in total disregard for the Indians' (with whom this white gentleman was sharing a home) wishes, placed eviction notices on the doors of all of the "Cabazon dissidents". That's what they call the Indians who want the Nichols family out of control of that reservation. The Nichols family can be traced in the old hardback edition of "INSIDE JOB" by Stephen Pizzo and Mary Fricker. And in that book, which traces the history of the failing Savings & Loans (It's considered a bible of what has happened with the Savings & Loans.) ... in that book, Dr. Nichols identifies himself as a C.I.A operative involved in the assassination of [democratically elected President of Chile] Allende and the attempted assassination of [Cuban President] Castro. PAUL DeRIENZO: So he has a long history in intelligence matters as an operative in the intelligence community. VRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: A very long history. And if I were an American taxpayer, which I am, I would be very outraged at the amount of grants that the Nichols family, with known Mob connections, is able to obtain and go through. Then, when the grant money runs out, they simply bankrupt the DBA, the company they're doing business as on the Cabazon reservation. In that manner, they burn the creditors, and they go on to a new DBA and obtain more grant money. PAUL DeRIENZO: Where is this investigation heading? Will there ever be actual indictments and jailings of the people involved in some of these criminal activities? Or does the fact that the Government in the Justice Department was the entity that was cited for having stolen the PROMIS software "through trickery, fraud and deceit" in the first place preempt any attempt at getting justice regarding this matter? VIRGINIA McCOLLOUGH: Well, I think what has to happen is exactly what Danny Casolaro intended to happen. And that is to understandably tie all of these events together because they are, in fact, all linked [together]. And only under those conditions -- and if our Congress and our Senators regain their intestinal fortitude to do their job (and I don't mean just make themselves pay raises, but actually monitor what's going on within the judiciary and within the executive branches of government, as they are supposed to to maintain our balance of power), maybe then the citizens can rely upon obtaining some answers. It seems that when only a Congressman or a Senator is directly attacked is that Senator or Congressman able to pursue, for whatever reason, a proper investigation of what's going on. I'll give you an example. We have a Congressman by the name of George Miller here in California. He's out of the Martinez area. And the Wackenhut Corporation has been maintaining secret files on reporters around the United States. They call them "damage-control lists". And they maintain secret files on various reporters whom they feel are getting too close to the truth, and they seek to install some form of "damage control" against those reporters. That was never investigated. But just a couple of weeks ago, George Miller found that the Wackenhut Security Corporation had a file on Congressman George Miller because of his involvement in trying to maintain some environmental controls over the Alaska Pipeline Service Corporation. And now, finally, the House Interior & Insular Affairs Committee, last Wednesday, voted unanimously to subpoena the documents and testimony from that pipeline service company and the Wackenhut Security Corporation. PAUL DeRIENZO: Thank you very much Virginia McCollough, joining us from California, for that incredibly enlightening view into the inner workings of the Central Intelligence Agency and its various spin-offs, and the types of internal divisions that seem to be developing within the ruling class of the Government. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ .... nonlove is the unwillingness to extend one's self. .... if we seriously listen to this "God within us" ["conscience", if you will], we usually find ourselves being urged to take the more difficult path, the path of more effort rather than less. .... So original sin does exist; it is our laziness. .... Evil is laziness carried to its ultimate, extraordinary extreme. As I have defined it, love is the antithesis of laziness. Ordinary laziness is a passive failure to love. Some ordinarily lazy people may not lift a finger to extend themselves unless they are compelled to do so. Their being is a manifestation of nonlove; still, they are not evil. Truly evil people, on the other hand, actively, rather than passively avoid extending themselves. They will take any action in their power to protect their own laziness, to preserve the integrity of their sick self. .... they will actually destroy others in this cause. If necessary, they will even kill to escape the pain of their own spiritual growth. As the integrity of their sick self is threatened by the spiritual health of those around them, they will seek by all manner of means to crush and demolish the spiritual health that may exist near them. I define evil, then, as the exercise of political power -- that is, the imposition of one's will upon others by overt or covert coercion -- in order to avoid extending one's self for the purpose of nurturing spiritual growth. Ordinary laziness is nonlove. Evil is antilove. M. Scott Peck -- THE ROAD LESS TRAVELED -- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ SAMORI MARKSMAN: We go to our next guest, Harry Martin, who is the publisher of the Napa Sentinel [Napa, California] and who has been doing an extraordinary amount of investigatory work around the Inslaw affair. We will begin by welcoming Harry Martin back to WBAI. Good morning. Just to let you know that I'm in the studio with Paul DeRienzo. ..... [deleted some previously discussed information] HARRY MARTIN: The person who is awaiting criminal prosecution is Michael Riconosciuto, of course. But mind you, he was not arrested at the time he made the deposition. He gave a deposition to Congress, and he indicated to the committee that if he went ahead and testified -- as he did -- therefore, he would be subject to arrest within a short period of time. Within seven days he was arrested! But Ari Ben-Menashe is certainly not under any criminal arrest. He is a member of the Israeli Mossad [intelligence agency]. And the other people who have come forward and testified to these various things are not in jail. Michael Riconosciuto is a man who has signed an affidavit, and yes, he is in jail awaiting criminal charges of supposedly owning a methamphetamine lab in Pearce Conty, Washington. However, after he was arrested -- while I was on a Seattle radio show, I was on hold and the news came on -- there were three methamphetamine labs broken up in Pearce County, Washington, not associated with him whatsoever. And it would lead to the suspicion that perhaps they were all connected to one thing and had nothing to do with Michael, but they decided to hang one on him right after his testimony. PAUL DeRIENZO: Why don't you give us some background on who Ari Ben-Menashe is, because his name has come up on a number of different issues. HARRY MARTIN: His name has turned up on the October Surprise and everything else. He is a member of the Mossad and he apparently indicates that he is a witness to the exchange of the PROMIS software to the Iraqis in Santiago, Chile. Now there was also a British Air Force officer who was a witness to that thing, supposedly, and he was hung. And they declared that to be suicide. That was in Chile. Ben-Menashe has come forward on a lot of things, but you have to understand that the Israelis, at the present time, are also very irritated with the Bush Administration. And you cannot be sure how much information and disinformation is being passed around. PAUL DeRIENZO: How about Mr. Riconosciuto? We discussed the legal problems he got himself in after he spoke out. But what is his history? HARRY MARTIN: He's a very brilliant computer scientist. He has worked inside the CIA for a long time. And nobody can deny this fact. Nobody is challenging that particular role. He was the man who had the access keys to almost any computer situation: monies, who's who and everything else. He's very dangerous in the aspect that he has all that knowledge of the key players in many, many things. And, of course, his affidavit stated that he converted the PROMIS software using the Cabazon Indian reservation, in Indio, California to do this. And Dr. Earl Brian was very much involved there. That place was also used for the manufacture of biological warfare and chemical warfare to be used by the Contras in Nicaragua. Testimony has come forward from many people that that whole Indian tribe and those people running it are shown by the California Department of Justice to have Mafia and CIA ties. This is a documented situation. But jurisdiction becomes a problem because it is an independent Indian nation. ..... PAUL DeRIENZO: We have reports that have come out in COMPUTERWORLD and other sources based on these statements made by Mr. Ben-Menashe and Mr. Riconosciuto that Robert McFarlane, who was the former National Security Advisor, was involved in giving the Israeli Government copies of this software. Bill Hamilton says that he found out, quite by accident, that Canada was using it widely; that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police were using it in their intelligence facilities. ..... Now, what was the role of the Indian reservation? HARRY MARTIN: Well, there are several Indian reservations that are being used by the Wackenhut Corporation and intelligence agencies to do things like manufacture equipment or ..... They can skip a lot of corners because these nations are technically independent. For instance, one reservation is in New Mexico, but it also goes across the Mexican border. Therefore, it becomes an open corridor where you don't use customs or anything because part of your properties are in one country and part is in another. And they have used these Indian tribes for everything from the manufacture of weapons to the software situation, opening up gambling casinos. And understand, a lot of the money involved in the savings and loan scandal came from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. The Bureau of Indian Affairs puts out money to be invested on short-term notices, and this is how a lot of the savings and loans that went down started up. And that's where a lot of their money came from. There could be a lot of inter-ties in there. It is so complex, and of course, Danny Casolaro referred to it as "the Octopus". You can understand why now, because it gets into .... You see, the trouble is, you can't isolate Inslaw by itself. Inslaw by itself is just a minor thing compared with the overall package. The total corruption that seems to have played around -- Iran/Contra gets involved, and the October Surprise gets involved. There are just so many players that keep coming across each other, and it's a really massive story. I don't know anybody who is going to get the whole picture. PAUL DeRIENZO: What I'm trying to get at are the connections that might lead to an investigation, or try to force an investigation into these things because it seems that when you have a reporter who is found dead under mysterious circumstances, by anybody's definition, it deserves being looked into further rather than a simple ruling that this was a suicide because ..... HARRY MARTIN: You have to understand now, Inslaw was sort of on the back burner of the public limelight. In other words, I'm getting letters now from your program last week in which people say they haven't heard too much about this thing on the East Coast. Originally, Inslaw was carried by the Washington Times, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and ourselves. And we're the only three newspapers in the whole nation giving any credence or concentration to it. PAUL DeRIENZO: Actually, Barron's also. HARRY MARTIN: The Sam Nunn Committee got nowhere because the Justice Department refused to turn over any records whatsoever. And Jack Brooks's Committee, which is in our Congress, has already had some hearings and some of the testimony is from Judge Bason and so forth. But again, the Justice Department is stonewalling it in refusing to give documentation up. And, of course, my question is: Who's in control, the Congress or the Justice Department? The thing is that the death of Danny Casolaro has opened this to the fact that you're seeing more and more questions asking: What is this Inslaw case? And that in itself is going to open up more questions into other things. See, if they open up the Inslaw case, it's just going to be the tip of the iceberg, and they may find a lot of other things involved and interconnected. Perhaps Danny's death is going to give more impetus to the Brooks Committee. It's certainly beginning to wake up the national media which really slept on this thing. These things take time. Look how long it took Watergate. And Iran/Contra really never got anywhere. SAMORI MARKSMAN: We want to let our listeners know that we are speaking with Harry Martin who is the publisher of the Napa Sentinel, and as you've been hearing, we're focusing on a rather intriguing story -- which involves some major players in the political affairs of this society -- but which isn't receiving the kind of attention that the issue deserves. We here at WBAI are attempting to do so today and we will continue to do so. ..... Paul, I want to ask Harry to go back to a point which he alluded to earlier. We had been talking about the breadth of this issue, that it's not simply the disappearance of Danny, that there are many others who have been killed in similarly mysterious circumstances, although some perhaps less mysteriously than others. Could you discuss that again for us, Harry Martin, and show what was a common thread linking these various deaths? HARRY MARTIN: Well, much of the common thread is Danny Casolaro himself. We have Standorf, who worked for a secret [government] communications division outside of Washington [D.C.]. He was funneling documents to Danny at all times, and he was found beaten to death in his car at National Airport in Washington. And of course, Danny indicated that his sources had [since] dried up. Apparently, they had set up a thing in the Hilton Hotel, in room 900, in which they had high-speed equipment, and they were duplicating everything as quickly as possible to get them back in [returned to] the files. Then of course, we have Mr. Ng who was in Guatemala. He worked for the Financial Times of London. He was working on this case, but he was also working on the Wackenhut Corporation and following a key witness to the murders of some Cabazon Indians. And he was found shot to death in Guatemala. And then, of course, Michael Riconosciuto's attorney -- Eiselman, I think it is. I don't have my notes in front of me -- from Philadelphia, was en route to pick up material proving that Riconosciuto was, in fact, telling the truth. And he was found shot to death. All these things, with the exception of Standorf, were written off as suicides. And Michael May, who we wrote of as being tied into that, and who had had communications with Casolaro .... and also, he was the man who supposedly filtered the forty million dollars to the Iranians as the down payment on the "October Surprise" -- we wrote about him on a Friday in June, and on a Wednesday in San Francisco he was found dead. They said it was a heart attack. Later on, the autopsy revealed that it was polypharmaceuticals that were in his system, and it was not a heart attack. Michael Riconosciuto's arrest, of course .... It would take me forever to explain them all, but that gives you a synopsis of some of the things that have happened to people associated with that particular case. PAUL DeRIENZO: Let's concentrate on one of the more outrageous of these murders. And that, besides Casolaro's death (many people, including Bill Hamilton call that a murder) .... HARRY MARTIN: We refer to them as deaths. We're not taking the total line yet that they were murders. PAUL DeRIENZO: There is conflict on these [deaths], but they are very suspicious. One actual murder that nobody will deny was that of Mr. Alvarez, the crusading member of the Cabazon Indians who opposed the .... HARRY MARTIN: Absolutely! And he was shot with two other people, execution style. Jimmy Hughes was a man who worked for Wackenhut and who was the bag-man to bring the money over [to pay for the contract murders of Fred Alvarez and company]. And he has testified to the Riverside County [California] District Attorney's office. He is now in hiding in Guatemala, of course. That's where Mr. Ng was down to see him. He also carried a lot of other information which was extremely damaging. We were able to talk to people who helped him escape, because he came up this way at first, and now he's down in Guatemala. The Indian situation itself is its own scandal. Then there's the Wackenhut Corporation, and you get into Inslaw .... Like I say, its just so wide you would need a massive computer just to do a chart. PAUL DeRIENZO: Can we focus now on Alvarez? Can you tell us that story? HARRY MARTIN: Alvarez was basically the head of the Cabazon Indians, and when Wackenhut and Dr. Brian and people came in to take over and create the gambling parlors and to convert the Inslaw software and to manufacture chemical warfare weapons and so forth, he protested. He wanted control of the Indian tribe back. And he was summarily executed. The money came from the people who were running that, according to the testimony of Jimmy Hughes, which is on file with the State of California in the Riverside County D.A.'s office. Incidentally now, after all these years they have finally reopened that case in Riverside because of the publicity associated with the Inslaw case. PAUL DeRIENZO: At first, there was a grand jury investigation and there were no indictments or suspects mentioned in that first investigation. HARRY MARTIN: And yet, Hughes testified to names, places, events, everything. PAUL DeRIENZO: Mr. John P. Nichols, who was at that time the head of the tribe and who now is an advisor to the Cabazon Indians, said that the death of Mr. Alvarez and two non-Indian companions, who were found shot to death with him, had nothing to do with what's going on in the Cabazon reservation. HARRY MARTIN: Yet, Jimmy Hughes has testified to the Riverside people that John Nichols is the one who gave him the money to deliver to the hit-man in Palm Springs. Also, Mr. John Nichols was later on convicted for murder-for-hire and his sons are now technically running the tribe. PAUL DeRIENZO: He was actually convicted rather than charged? I heard he was brought up on charges. But he was actually convicted of that? HARRY MARTIN: Absolutely. PAUL DeRIENZO: But Mr. Nichols seems to have a tremendous amount of support. From what I understand, he's getting a lot of support from liberal figures such as James Aboureszk, the former senator from South Dakota. HARRY MARTIN: You have to understand, Mr. Nichols, by his own boasting and through other publications, indicates that he was involved in the assassination of [democratically elected President of Chile, Salvador] Allende, and he was involved in the attempted assassination of [Cuban Premier Fidel] Castro. His links as a C.I.A. contractor -- his links with the Mafia are well documented with the State of California. Therefore, obviously he's going to get some support from groups that are probably within that channel. ..... SAMORI MARKSMAN: Harry Martin, we'd like to thank you very much for joining us again here on WBAI. Any closing points that you would like to make? HARRY MARTIN: Well, just that Danny's concept of an "Octopus" .... you can see exactly what he was talking about. The tentacles went everywhere, and he seemed to be on the verge of breaking a lot of that information. And then all of his records, everything disappeared. And he died. To say that a journalist would commit suicide when he's on the verge of breaking a big story is ludicrous because anybody knowing a journalist knows that once they are on a drive, neither food nor anything else matters but to get that story across. He was very close to it, and you don't cash in the chips on the verge of winning the jackpot. SAMORI MARKSMAN: So true. Harry Martin, publisher of the Napa [California] Sentinel, thank you very much for joining us here on WBAI, non-commercial, listener-sponsored Pacifica Radio at 99.5 FM in New York. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *