From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Area 51/ S-4
Date: 27 Sep 93 17:28:38 GMT


In article <6666.2CA13F7D@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker) writes:
>As most of you reading this message know, the geographical area known in UFO 
>circles as <Area 51> and the even more elusive S-4 or S/4 or site four, 
>are some of the most heavily secure areas in the U.S., or perhaps even
>the world.
>
>In 1984 the United States Air Force made a patently illegal land grab around 
>the area known as Area 51. Grabbing about 89,000 acre's, the Air Force was 
>later asked in a series of public hearings just who authorized this seizure. 
>The spokesperson replied "I can tell you who authorized this, but I can 
>not tell you in these open hearings." Well the rest is history. Well almost.
>
>George Knapp, the former television journalist with KLAS TV in Las Vegas 
>recently told me that another such grab in now in progress. Reports have been 
>flowing into Knapp from very reliable sources stating that another grab is in 
>the offing. Tired of all the UFO buffs haunting the area with telescopes, 
>cameras, camcorders, AND PUBLICITY, the boys in blue plan to close off all 
>remaining points where the secret site can be viewed.


I just returned from this area, and I purchased an updated Area 51 Viewers Guide.
The author, Glenn Campbell, describes a new hill top that over looks the
Groom Lake complex, and names it "Freedom Ridge" or some such, and tells us
how to get there.

He describes survey markers that definately give the impression that another
land grab in the name of "National Security" is in the making. A small 
organization has mobilized to fight another land grab, claiming the first
one was unconstitutional, and did nothing to enhance Groom Lake Base security,
since there are still two known locations on public lands that can overlook
the base.

The emphasis is that Groom Lake is gearing up for even more covert, black
projects and they want the public to stay the hell out of there back yard.

It was really funny, camping within a mile of the "No Trespassing" signs
at A51. We were under survalence the entire evening and morning. New 
white Jeep Cherokee vehicles were running up and down the road, with 
Rayban dudes inside. Cameras are very verbotten in this area, I did not
attempt to photograph these people. 

However, the Blackhawk that bussed us in the morning did get his picture
taken...

It was the first time I was ever approached by a helicopter at low altitude
(30 feet) and from out of the dawn sun. It was like Apocolypse Now or 
some similar scenario. The chopper went over White Sides, looking for campers
(a moutain on public land that allows one to view Groom Lake), then he went 
south to the Groom Road, then turned West, and approached us from the East.
So he is in the Sun, and as he approaches us, we are blinded by the sun...
Very impressive and quite intimidating. I did not wish to loose my camera
to the Sheriff, so I only took his picture after he had zoomed over us.

Joe at the Little Al Le Inn, states that this has been a quiet summer
at A51, and nobody has brought him in new pictures for some time.

I saw two interesting lights there:

1) a Bright yellow/orange glow from the South as I approached the A51
warning signs. This is not the Pappoose Lake area, but the Test Range
to the south. I assume these were flares, as described int he viewers
manual. 

2) Old Faithfull - seen every Thurs. at 4:45 am, this is a light that
decends into Papoose Lake area. It is far south of Groom Lake, but on
the same N-S axis. This was definately too far south-west of my position
to by anything other than the Papoose Lake facility. 

The viewer guide sez it's most likely a jet that brings in workers
from Las Vegas. I would concure it looked like slow steady incoming
flight pattern of a Jet, but I saw now strobe, it must have been
behind the landing lights.

It was interesting to see the bus Lazar describes go past in the morning.
Blue, with blacked out windows...

Just before it entered the Groom Complex area, a Cherokee went by on a 
gravel road at about 80 mph! I have never seen people drive so fast on
dirt in my life. They should get a ticket, that is a public road with
a posted limit of 35.

Jeff-