[CNI News has received a very large number of provocative stories from anonymous sources claiming direct knowledge of UFO/alien events through former affiliation with the military or intelligence community. Given that such stories are inherently unverifiable, CNI News usually ignores them, even if they "sound true." Nonetheless, from time to time we receive an item impressive enough in its detail and literacy to warrant an exception to our general rule. The following is such an item. CNI NEWS MAKES NO CLAIM THAT THIS STORY IS TRUE, nor can we identify its original source. However, we invite any reader who can corroborate any part of this story to send information directly to news editor Michael Lindemann (ISCNIMikeL). CNI News thanks Wanda Sudrala for sending this item.
Following our first publication of this article, we learned from a reader that it had circulated on the internet at least since June 13, 1987 -- the date on a file copy that reader had previously downloaded.]
I am fifty years of age and an engineer that has worked in the private sector, as well as with the American government. From 1975 to 1980, I was involved with several investigations having to do with E.T. material. Even though the project was very well covered, I am still very much surprised that Project Pluto and results have not surfaced yet. There was no question that the government was in full control.
[Editor's Note: Project Pluto and a possibly related Project Pounce were briefly referenced in a. report first posted to the internet by William Cooper in December, 1988. At that time, Cooper said that Project Pluto was "established to evaluate all UFO/IAC informqation pertaining to space technology. This project is ongoing. PLUTO is the proword for POUNCE." Concerning Pounce, Cooper said: "This project was formed to recover all downed/crashed craft and aliens. This project provided cover stories/operations to mask true endeavor when necessary. Covers which have been used: crashed experimental aircraft, construction, mining, etc. This project has been successful. This project is ongoing." (Howe, "An Alien Harvest," p. 184) If the following story is considered true, then the author is evidently unaware that at least Cooper's information about Project Pluto is available.]
For security purposes, Project Pluto had five levels. Those who investigated one level had nothing to do with the next, and would only turn in the results of data of these findings to the next level, then go on to another area. No one that I knew ever had the results of two levels at the same time.
There was only one very rare exception to the rule which took place in 1975, and was in fact my very first assignment with the project. I was employed by a non-government firm that of course was directly involved with the government, and probably fronted for them on the projects.
Several others and myself were rushed to a rather remote place in upstate Pennsylvania. We were informed that everything was top secret, and had to remain that way. We were even housed in a hotel close by, and security people were assigned to us. Some type of aircraft had crashed in this area, and the government felt that it would be easier and faster to do all of their investigation right here rather than to move the remains of the wreck, and whatever evidence the soil may contain.
The wreck site was rather difficult to get to. However, we turned it into a construction site, clearing the area, and building two small and one very large metal pre-fab buildings over and around the wreck. Heavy equipment, materials, and workers were flown in and out on a daily basis.
We were moved from the hotel to some mobile homes that were brought in for us and many more top level people who joined us. I might add that the local people who still lived some distance from the site were led to believe that a large private corporation was preparing to build an electrical power supply for the area. But it was off limits to everyone in the area.
We were some of the first ones on the scene other than lots of security people. The wreck had already been covered by very large canvas blankets, and large nets were tented overhead to protect the site from any possible air traffic. I did manage to get a very good look at the wreck on several occasions. My first thoughts were that it may have been an experimental aircraft of our government, or perhaps [another] government. It was later suggested to us that it was a new type of aircraft of a foreign government, and it was a super hush hush project. That aircraft was nothing like I have ever seen or probably ever will again.
The crash site was also something quite different. The disturbed soil was about a hundred feet in diameter, although the craft was much larger in length. I only saw what appeared to be about two-thirds of the rear end and even that was about ten feet below the surface. When it crashed on about a 30 degree angle, it pushed all the earth back away from the craft itsel -- almost as if the hole were made first, and then something half the size was put in place. My best thought on this rather strange hole is that some kind of magnetic field had pushed all the earth away from the craft at impact.
It was reasonable to assume that I was looking down at the rear end of the aircraft, yet there was nothing to indicate that it had any kind of engine as we know it. Not even one little opening. I don't really like to use the term cigar, but since I could not see the front part, it certainly appeared to have once been shaped like a large cigar. That's by best description. If it was a craft from a foreign government, then we are in big trouble.
Incidently, there was only a very small reading of radio waves [does the author mean radiation? - ed] in the area. The area was quite safe. There was on the other hand a great deal of free magnetic energy in that area. It was very difficult using our instruments. It was very difficult just to establish the correct time. Every wrist watch was a different time.
I actually held one small portion of the wreck in my hand. The piece was a material that I really can't identify. It may have been torn from the front of the craft when it crashed. A few of us compared thoughts as to what it might be, but no one was really certain. None of us had ever seen anything like it before.
It was about one square foot and about an inch thick. It weighed almost nothing, and one had the feeling that it may blow away if you let go of it and the wind increased. It was the same color and texture as the large portion, so it was safe to assume that it was part of the shell of the craft. It weighed nowhere near enough to be any metal that we had ever seen. It even weighed less than any plastic that I had seen of a similar size. I tried to scratch it with a pocket knife, and even cut away a small piece of the edge, but the knife did nothing to it. The surface was clear as glass, and stronger than anything we had seen before. It was like trying to scratch the surface of glass with a feather. Of course, we had to turn it in to the security people.
After the site was secure, the first groups that included myself were taken away. There was a very thorough strip search prior to us being given jumpsuits and put into a truck for the transportation to a waiting plane. We were taken to another area and debriefed before we were allowed to return to our normal way of life.
About three months later, a few of us returned to the site to remove the buildings, fill up the hole, and generally put the area back into the same shape as it may have been prior to the crash. We went through the same type of security search and debriefing as we had done the first time. Whatever was left of the craft had been removed and sent to an unknown destination.
Almost one year [later] to the day, I was sent to another crash site. Everything was a repeat of the first time, except that there were six of us. Four of us were part of the first crash site, and the other two were new. This time the aircraft was buried so deep into the lower side of a hill that we could not get a good look at it.
The security arrangements were just about the same, and we constructed similar buildings around it. It was very close to a rerun of the first crash site. Only this time we were told, "as a matter of fact it was a top secret experimental aircraft that had crashed." I managed to see the rear end of the craft. It appeared to be the same type as the first.
[Again] the code name of the project was Pluto. Incidently, that was in upstate New York, in 1976. I do not know if there were any "people" or life forms aboard.
In 1978, I was again sent to a crash site. We arrived the day after the security people. This time the aircraft landed in a lake in upstate Pennsylvania. We went through the same motions, and several buildings on the edge of the lake to house the craft, once it was removed from the water. Lots of Navy equipment was flown in, and there were divers everywhere. The same magnetic field was present as in the first two incidents.
There was no aircraft.
I spent three weeks there in the event that the buildings had to be adjusted. It seems that the divers had located the exact spot that the aircraft had rested on the bottom, but it was gone. There was lots of evidence on the beach that something very large had crashed into the lake, causing the water of the lake to splash ashore, over thirty feet, and what was normally a rather clean lake, was suddenly a very large mudhole. After three weeks, I left and was subjected to the same type of security as the first two times.
I didn't have to return to dismantle the pre-fab buildings. I would think that it was done by others very soon thereafter. There were some thoughts at first that the craft may have been buried under the bottom of the lake, but by this time, we knew enough about the craft to know if that were the case. It was not -- it just vanished. Perhaps it was not damaged and managed to fly away. That may sound silly, but I believe that it is a reasonable conclusion.
There was some damage to the immediate area. Six large electrical transformers, and some other equipment were burned out and had to be replaced by the electric company. The government took the electrical equipment and had it flown somewhere else.
In 1979, I was sent to the shores of southern Texas. The same type of situation -- all the evidence led us to believe that whatever it was, it landed in the water and flew away.
I understand that over twenty men actually saw it go into the water, but the days that followed bore no fruit. The Navy divers had a good deal of evidence that something had made a very large recent gash on the bottom in about seventy feet of water. The very same magnetic field was present, and everything electrical in the immediate area was burned out.
By the end of 1979, I was sent back to the very same lake in northern Pennsylvania. It was a duplicate incident as the first time we were there. It had landed in the lake and was gone. The same electrical items were again destroyed, and the same magnetic field was evident.
I really have no physical evidence to prove one way or another the identification of the aircraft. I can only examine what I have experienced and wonder! My opinion is another story.
I don't really believe that the aircraft belongs to our government or any other government on this earth. From 1975 to present, we would certainly have seen some kind of revolutionary change in our aircraft.
To date, I still have not seen any material to even slightly match the very first piece of physical evidence that I had examined. That alone would have made a fantastic change in the material we use today. No corporation or government could keep that kind of material quality under cover for over twelve years, if they had invented it.
[Note: the reference to "twelve years" might indicate that this statement was first composed in the late 1980s.]
After twelve years we probably don't even know what it is, or how to make it. I am positive that at the very least, they have two of the aircraft hidden somewhere, and probably have learned very little from them, other than they exist. However, the company that I was associated with has made some gigantic leaps forward in electromagnetic forces. Perhaps they did learn something from it after all.
If we wish to assume that these aircraft are not from this earth, and are from way out there in space, then my goodness, the planet must be full of visitors. The air traffic alone must be fantastic. It seems to me that whoever they are, they have found it easier to land in the water rather than on our dry earth.
I have never really had any feelings one way or another about E.T.'s. I had elected to deal with hard evidence only -- that was prior to 1975. For those few years afterwards, I could not help but interject some opinions into my brain. As I would rather deal with hard evidence only, I am forced to put all of this on a scale, and take a good hard look at the tilting of the scales. There is far too much here to ignore. I must confess that I had somewhat leaned towards the experimental aircraft story. But as the years passed, it became evident that was only a cover story. Too much time has passed and our aircraft are pretty much the same.
There is no doubt in my mind that we as well as others are constantly experimenting with new aircraft. However, at this late date, I am reasonably certain that those crash sites were not made by anything that we are familiar with. Then again, I still kind of reserve that possibility. As you can see, I have many mixed feelings about it. In addition, I have no way of knowing if I had been on every crash site that occurred. There may have been many more during that period and many more since then.
I really don't know if anyone had ever been removed from the two wrecks that I had personally seen. Perhaps they were only mechanical flights. Perhaps the medical people were only there -- just in case -- and/or to test the wreck for any form of unknown bacteria prior to removing it. Their being present is not really evidence that a life form was found. It could go either way.
On a personal level, I have no fear of meeting or contacting such a being. In fact, the very first time I saw the craft, the thought had entered my mind. I would think that I would be more afraid of picking up some unknown form of bacteria than I would be of the life form itself.
What I fear more than any visitor is that some farmer is going to get them with a shot gun and do more damage than we can or want to handle. Also, some cowboy policeman trying to shoot his first spaceman. Because of that I should think that our government would try to educate us as to the proper way to handle any such situation. That little bit of awareness and education may save our planet from destruction. If there is clear evidence that we are being visited by intelligent life forms, then the heads of government are by far crazier than I had imagined by trying to keep it a secret
Because of that I am trying to share whatever information and evidence I have, which is in fact all first hand data. There are many items that I have not included in this article, only because this could turn into forty or fifty pages. At some time in the future, I will take my time and write every detail that I can remember.
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