On October 8, 1995, in the town of Tver, Russia, Zolotov was murdered in his own home. No connection between the crime and his UFO work was reported.
CNI News thanks Mr. Valery Uvarov of the International Information Center for UFO Investigation (IICUFI), headquartered in St. Petersburg, Russia, for providing us with the following interview, which was conducted with Aleksei Zolotov just a few days before his death.
According to Mr. Uvarov, Aleksei Vasilievich Zolotov was Candidate of Physics-Mathematical Science, Head Research Assistant of the Scientific Research Institute of Geophysics, a leading investigator of the Tunguska phenomenon since 1959, director of a scientific research laboratory in the Tver State University, and "one of the oldest champions of ufology, a man without comparison whose name is connected with an entire era in the development of ufology in Russia."
This is the first in a planned series of CNI News reports on both current and historical UFO events in Russia, made possible by Valery Uvarov and IICUFI. Mr. Uvarov credits Lozanna Elwood for assisting in the English translation of this text. Mr. Uvarov can be reached by email at firstname.lastname@example.org.]
Valery Uvarov: Do UFOs exist, in your opinion?
Aleksei Zolotov: Yes, in my opinion they do exist. We know about the existence of several thousand people who saw a UFO in flight. Around a thousand saw how the objects [landed] themselves on the earth; and around three hundred people saw aliens or had contact with them. From my own inventory, I've seen UFOs in flight three times and was in three different places where objects had landed. And one time I myself saw a humanoid -- living, just like you. It's true, we didn't speak, only our glances met. But I see his face even to this day.
VU: Describe it.
AZ: It happened in 1933. I was only about seven years old then. The humanoid looked very interesting. In front of me stood a person [who looked] around eighty years old. Medium build, around 5 or 6 feet high and, what surprised me was that his entire face was marked with wrinkles. His head was one and a half times bigger than a normal man's head. Accordingly, his features were also more prominent. I especially noticed that his ears were bigger and had a somewhat different structure than what people usually had. They were wider and (in reference to the upper part) sharper. He had an impassive and penetrating gaze. When our eyes met, I realized that he wasn't a man. We looked at each other for ten seconds, and then I ran away. When I returned, he wasn't there. It seemed to me then, that he wasn't wearing clothes. And what really surprised me [was that] on his body, which was the same color as a man's body, there wasn't a single wrinkle. A lot later, when I started to research the problem of UFOs, I discovered that they use over-alls from fabric without wrinkles, and which fully covers the entire body.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I had the impression that he gave me some kind of program. I don't know exactly, it just seems that way to me. In any case, maybe it isn't by chance that I've spent half of my life studying these incomprehensible, anomalous occurrences, starting in 1959 with the Tunguska case and up until now, continually occupying myself with these questions.
VU: In your eyes, what exactly is a UFO?
AZ: It's not a simple thing to answer this question, because when they refer to UFOs, different people have different occurrences in mind. Several are seeing anomalous occurrences which exist in nature. Incomprehensible illuminations and other appearances, including ball lightening, they interpret as an anomalous occurrence. That's one side. A different portion of people, and scientists, perceive UFOs more concretely, as Unidentified Flying Objects, having a determined form, structure, high speed of flight and other unusual technical parameters -- objects which carry out landings on Earth, and having done some kind of work, fly away. Personally, I understand UFOs in this sense. Namely, I have seen them in flight and have investigated the landing spots of these objects. If you understand UFOs from precisely this viewpoint, then they certainly exist. There needs to be enough material, not only of an observational character, [but] also of empirical and practical nature, which can be studied in laboratories. In a lot of institutes in Russia, they are studying samples taken from landing sites, including in our laboratory.
VU: In your opinion, between earthlings and Them, does there exist some kind of original interaction? Why are they here?
AZ: It's a question from the field of cosmic psychology, if it can be so expressed. It's out of the framework of usual human psychology. In the given case, we have to answer the question for Them, why are They here. We're only able to put forward an assumption. So, there isn't an exact, scientifically-proven opinion on this question.
First, it's important to note the following. Originating from the infinity of the Universe, it follows that intelligent worlds exist, not only on the Earth, but in other places in the Universe. And from the infinity of life in the Universe in time, it follows that civilizations don't originate in different areas of the Universe simultaneously. One civilization has just come into being while another is approaching the highest point of its development, ending this phase of its existence. And so different civilizations find themselves in different levels of development. There are civilizations which are on a lower level of development than our Earth. There are civilizations which are found on a higher degree of development, and so they fly to us -- not we to them, but they come to us. Consequently, they are on a higher level than us.
Furthering this viewpoint, it's necessary to reason that They don't interfere in our affairs. Because if they interfered, then there wouldn't be the natural development of the civilization of mankind. Only at critical moments when civilization on Earth was or will be on the brink of destruction, then, maybe, they will interfere, in order to preserve civilization. Only in this case will They interfere.
It looks as if They possess another energy than earthlings, if they achieved a higher level of development. But what would the introduction of their energy mean for humanity? Each introduction of new energy is a leap in the development of civilization. Take the application of steam, for example -- it's a leap. The application of electricity is a leap; nuclear energy is a leap. Each new type of energy is a leap in development. So if They give us a new type of energy, then that is a leap. That, then, is straight interference -- very serious interference at that. And maybe we are not mature enough for it. We are still very aggressive, we war with each other. Can you guess what the introduction of this new type of energy might bring? Mankind has always used new scientific achievements for military purposes. Therefore, They are not able to interfere in our affairs right now. We still haven't matured to the level of transition [to] a new technology, a new energy, and that means to a new degree of development of civilization.
VU: Some people feel that the Earth is some kind of nursery, and earthlings are like "experimental rabbits" for extraterrestrial civilizations. What is your feeling about this?
AZ: I don't think this is true. Sometimes there's a comparison, saying that They study us like we study flies. But it's necessary to say that if they are at a higher degree of development, then this means not only on a technological level, but on a psychological, moral level. I think, being on their own level, They wouldn't allow themselves to treat people the way that people treat flies. If They have arrived, then it's not simply for that. Certainly they are studying us, but while they are studying us and the stages of our development, They are receiving the opportunity to predict the future, to get to know the mechanics of the pattern of the evolutionary process. I, personally, having met a humanoid, didn't feel any humiliation. It was the other way around -- he gave me something.
VU: What do you think will give mankind the first step [toward] recognition of the existence of an outer world which sends UFOs? How might this recognition be useful for the development of mankind?
AZ: If we agree that They are on a higher level, then, certainly, contact with them might be of enormous use to people. It's clear that They possess a different kind of energy, which we still don't know about. However, the introduction of this energy might produce great changes in the development of mankind for the better. If they wanted to bring us harm, they would have brought it long ago. They have observed us for a thousand years. Anomalous phenomena have displayed themselves throughout the entire period of the existence of the civilization of mankind. Even in the Bible there is a description of an observation of this kind of object, [in] the famous testimonies of the prophet Ezekiel. It describes a UFO so exactly that everyone will recognize it.
VU: [How do you think] mankind will begin its own ascent? Will it be like a transmission of some kind of technology from the Cosmic Intellect, or will mankind have to continue its own clumsy, experiential path of development?
AZ: Looking through the history of the interrelations of mankind and UFOs over a period of the last thousand years, ...if They consider the need to interfere, then They will do it. From this there might be the greatest usefulness -- if only a transmission [of] technology for the preservation of the ozone layer. Today, it's a question of life or death for everything living on the Earth. But we have already discussed that it's out of the question in view of the aggressiveness of mankind's associations and the lowness of its moral level. Looking at the history of the development of our civilization, it's almost possible to say with confidence that we must find our own way out of our problems.
[This text appeared in CNI News on May 1, 1997.]
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