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**In the last several years, few have stirred the field of UFOlogy

like Milton William Cooper. Cooper, born May 6, 1943 is a balding

47 year old man, who has enthralled thousands with lurid tales of

dangerous UFOs and secret government treaties allowing the alien

menace to abduct and experiment on unwilling human victims in

exchange for advanced alien technology. Raining threats and

pronouncements over the UFO field like a continuously firing

shotgun, Cooper has recently leveled charges of government spookery

against almost every UFOlogist in the field, and in many cases

claimed to have seen the names on a list back in 1972 and 1973

while purportedly serving in Naval Intelligence in CINCPACFLT. 



Leveling charges at former friends and associates, Cooper has

charged various UFOlogists with illegal acts, moral turpitude and

charges of UFOlogists purveying disinformation that permeate the

field. Cooper, now with an agent to book speaking engagements at

any and every UFO event possible, is very fond of stating "don't

take my word for it, go out and check the information yourself".

UFO Magazine has, and the following is the result of our

investigation.   



Who is M. Wm. "Bill" Cooper, and where did he come from? Cooper's

first public appearence resulted when he uploaded a text on

Paranet, the international computer data service. The file alleges

a fantastic sighting of a UFO while Cooper was a crewmember of the

USS TIRU, a United States Naval Submarine, in 1966. According to

Cooper, the sighting took place while he was on duty as the port

lookout. Claiming that the sub's skipper immediatly classified the

incident, Cooper reported that when the submarine reached port, the

witnesses were debriefed by Naval Security. During this time frame,

John O. Lear, son of William "Bill" Lear of Lear Jet fame, had also

been undergoing Paranet scrutiny as a result of the release of his

hypothesis concerning an alien threat. Lear's document had been

released in December of 1987, and had created quite an uproar in

its own right. Lear alledged that the United States Government had

entered into a relationship with possible ET intelligence and in

exchange for super technology, gave carte blanche to the ETs to

conduct experiments and abductions on unsuspecting human beings.

Lear claimed that in addition, the ETs, with our governments

knowledge, were mutilating domestic animals such as cattle and

sheep, and in some cases even humans were the victims. Because much

of Lears information was a hypothesis, and little checkable

information was forthcoming, many of the Paranet members were

asking very hard questions, and then in a number of instances,

attacked Lears creditbility. Cooper allied himself with Lear when

he again visited the Paranet system with the claim that he had just

been terminated from his $75000.00 a year job as the Executive

Director of a School.   



In October of 1988, Cooper contacted this writer via Paranet with

the request of a favor. Telling me at that time that "this is

dangerous if anyone finds out", he asked me to accept the

electronic transfer of a file into my computer, to be sent to

Stanton Friedman with the information of who wanted Friedman to see

it. The document included information about MAJI, MJ-1, THE BLUE

TEAM, GRUDGE, and according to Cooper various other alledged secret

government projects dealing with the alien presence. Agreeing to

send the information to Friedman, (I never heard anymore about this

until later when Cooper was barred from Paranet because of claims

of feeding false and fraudulent information) I basically forgot

about this information until Cooper released additional files

claiming that this was the final release. There were several

"final" releases, for example in one Cooper claimed "MJ-12 is the

name of the secret control group... The JASON SOCIETY to sift

through all the facts, evidence, technology, lies and deception..."

and in another that "MJ-12 CANNOT BE USED AS A NAME FOR THE CONTROL

GROUP AS IT WOULD CAUSE CONFUSION IN MEANING, i.e. IS IT REFERING

TO MJ-12 THE PERSON OR MJ-12 THE GROUP..." By this time I was

becoming confused with the various "final releases". In another

release Cooper claimed that "Project Luna" was an alien base on the

far side of the Moon and it was observed by various Astronauts, but

then one more "final release" he stated that it was the code name

for an underground base in Nevada near Dulce, New Mexico.   



In the later releases are a number of names that were never

mentioned in earlier releases. Names such as JOSHUA, and O.H. KRLL,

or KRLLL, or CRLL, CRLLL, or even KRILL. This proves to be very

important as the later investigation will show, when it comes to

answering whether these claims will bear up under serious scrutiny.

Cooper later claimed that the reason the documents were "different"

was that he wanted to throw the government off his trail until

someone would verify that what he said was the truth, and that "it

does not matter who is wrong or right and who is wrong or if a

project name is in the wrong place. ... we must all band together

and expose it now."   



As time progressed Cooper severed all ties with other researchers

in the UFO field. Once a very close confident of John Lear, Cooper

has turned on Lear and has accused Lear of being an agent of the

Central Intelligence Agency. In months past, Cooper was a star

guest on the "Billy Goodman Happening" broadcast from KVEG in Las

Vegas. Another alledged former government employee, physicist

Robert "Bob" Lazar, appeared on the Goodman radio show, and Cooper

was lavish in his praise of Lazars willingness to come forward to

expose the cosmic secret. Now, Lazar like Lear is suffering Coopers

allegations of  being an intelligence disinformation purveyor.   



Cooper now is operating an electronic bulletin board service, the

CITIZEN'S AGENCY For JOINT INTELLIGENCE (CAJI). In the last two

electronic newsletters, Cooper has leveled charges against numerous

people in the UFO community. When anyone challenges him, Cooper

will once more blast the questioners as "agents of the secret

government." In the previous edition of his newsletter, Cooper

charged that Bob Lazar, the "self claimed physicist who worked on

saucers, was arrested today for participation in one of Las Vegas'

prostitution rings. He was also accused of running a drug lab which

manufactures methamphetamine." Additional charges included naming

Lear and Lazar as being a member of a "ring" of government agents

that "include the  greats of UFOlogy". Cooper named Bruce Maccabee,

Lear, Lazar, William Moore, Jaime Shandera, Stanton Friedman, and

other unnamed at that time. Cooper left the impression with that

document that the others would include whom ever questioned his

sources, information or allegations. Cooper also claimed that

Stacey Borland, who led a Las Vegas Contactee Group was murdered

after she sponsered a talk with Budd Hopkins, and also received a

document from a man who reportedly worked a "DREAMLAND". Also

claimed in the Cooper CAJI newsletter was that John Grace, a still

active duty Air Force NCO took over the contactee group, and when

the investigation was started, the list of the contactee group and

the sign in sheet from Hopkins talk was missing. Serious

allegations if true, so UFO immediately contacted George Knapp of

KLAS TV in Las Vegas. Hopkins was in Las Vegas weeks after Borland

and her brother were found dead. Borland's boyfriend was the

initial suspect, but was cleared quickly by the Las Vegas Police.

The search then centered on a 24 year old suspect, William Mitchell

Smith, also known as William "Bo" Stevens. No UFO involvement at

all was discovered by police. According to George Knapp in a now

public letter to Michael Corbin, director of Paranet "Bill Cooper

wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass.... a secret

organization is highly unlikely. Moore (Bill) and Lear can't stand

each other. Moore and Friedman have tried to contact Lazar thru me

on several occasions...." Then Knapp relayed "Some of the

individuals have provided me with proof of Cooper's dishonesty,

proof that will be made public in the near future". Knapp was true

to his word. In part 5 of the KLAS second UFO special just recently

run by Knapp's TV station, Knapp pointed out one such occurance

where serious questions about Coopers information were raised.

According to Cooper, in his purported viewing of a top secret

government document in 1972-1973- he viewed information about O.H.

Krill, which according to Cooper stood for "Original Hostage

Krill".   



The problem with Cooper's claim, however, comes from the two people

involved in the O.H. Krill document. The origin of the

controversial document has been known for some time in the UFO

field. Conceived by UFO researcher John Grace, who heads the Nevada

Aerial Research organization and uses the pseudonym "Val Valerian,"

the title was chosen as an inside joke, according to both Lear and

Grace. While being interviewed by UFO Magazine, Lear stated that he

heard Cooper tell a television interviewer that he (Cooper) had

seen the O.H. Krill document back in the early 70's. Lear turned

"beet red," he said, and motioned for Cooper to speak to him

privately.  Lear told Cooper, "Bill, O.H. Krill is a joke! John

Grace and I used "KRILL" from Bob Emenegger's special "UFOs: It Has

Begun", because of a women who allegedly channeled an enity named

CRYLLL. Grace just pulled the O. H. out of thin air!" According to

Lear, Cooper flatly disagreed, saying, "No, I saw it in 1972." Lear

said, "I dropped it then. I could see that there was no talking to

him. I then began to wonder just how much of Bill Cooper was real." 

 

Lear was then asked about Cooper's allegation in the most recent

edition of CAJI, that Bob Lazar was "arrested for prostitution" and

is now facing narcotic's violations. Lear stated, "It's all

fabrication and fantasy."  Knapp said "There is no truth to the

allegation that Lazar has been arrested. Lazar admitted on TV that

he set up software for a bordello that was subsquently closed by

police, but as of this point, no charges have been filed at all." 



With respect to the charge of drug manufacture, Cooper stated that

he received the information from John Lear, and he also named two

additional UFO buffs, a Cory Testa and Geoff Graff. Testa was

shocked at the allegation that Lear told him Lazar was facing drug

violations. Testa stated, "I still believe that he (Lazar) is real

and John Lear never said anything like that." Testa later called

back and stated "I just called Bill Cooper and he denied that he

said that I said anything to him about Lazar." The paragraph was

read to him four times and he responded sadly, "You know, I am just

a guy who is really interested in UFOs, and I never wanted to get

involved in anything like this. Why would Bill say I said something

like that?" Testa then stated that Cooper claimed to him that Lear

was the famous Condor from William Moores avairy.  Testa then

stated that "everyone I was associated with, Cooper claimed that

they were a government agent."   



William "Bill" Moore was called to get his reaction to the stated

claims that John Lear was the shadowy agent "Condor", and he

responded with "I usually do not comment on someone that I consider

to be mentally ill, but it is not true that Lear is Condor".   



Moore was then advised that in the CAJI newsletter Cooper made the

claim that the tape of Condor was placed in voice analysis, and

that he had unscrambled it, proving that Lear was Condor.  Moore

laughed and stated "There is nothing to undo, nothing to

unscramble. Jaime and I masked Condors voice through a vocoder. The

vocoder is a device that the sound source is run through a mike,

then to a sound source sending it to a voice envolope to a vocoder.

Nothing of the human qualitys are left to unscramble."   



When Moore was asked about the additional claims of his being

identified as a government operative he stated "It is absolutly

false. You know, I am getting tired of all these accusations,

Cooper is always wrapping himself up in the flag and constitution,

what ever happened to the basic right of being innocent until

proven guilty? You know, I have never spoken to Cooper or had as

much as a single correspondence with him." Moore stated then that

he had been given a copy of the CAJI newsletter, had just read it,

and was amazed at the contents. I then mentioned to him that in the

newsletter, Cooper had stated that he had seen Moores name, along

with Stanton Friedman, John Lear and Bruce Maccabee on a list of

agents to be recruited in 1972. He also claimed that Bob Swan, a

service friend was also informed of this back in 1972. When Swan

was questioned by Linda Howe and Tony Pelham among others about

what he remembered, Swan stated for the record that really the only

thing he remembered was something to do with UFOs. Since I was

aware that Moore did not really come into the UFO scene with any

great splash until The Roswell Incident, I asked him what he was

doing in 1972 that would have brought him to the governments

attention. He responded that in 1972 he was teaching at the Herman

Community Schools, Independent District 264, in Herman, Mn. Moore

taught there from the Fall of 1969 until the Spring of 1979. Along

with the teaching, Moore was active in the teachers union, #32

Local. It would appear he would be very unlikely for a government

recuitment to the intelligence services then.   



Cooper stated in the CAJI newsletter that "No one likes to be a

fool but most UFOlogists are exactly that. I keep saying to DO

RESEARCH, TO INVESTIGATE, but no one does it. They just sit around

and CALL EACH OTHER NAMES." When I, representing UFO Magazine

attempted to call Cooper to verify his claims, I ended up leaving

a message on his computer service. I had not spoken to Cooper for

close to a year and had no way to get his home phone number. Cooper

read the message and called about an hour later. Answering the

telephone Cooper stated "What the hell do you want!?" I then

attempted to explain that I was doing a story for UFO Magazine and

wanted to verify his claims. Cooper stated "What are you writing

for your ****en trashzine?" I then said that I had recieved a copy

of the CAJI newsletter and he replied "I would be very careful if

I was you, that newsletter is copyrighted."   



Cooper then stated "I don't trust you or anyone you are associated

with." The only reference I was able to get concerned the

allegation that Bob Lazar ran a speed lab. "John Lear told me that

out of his own mouth... I got the information from a man named Cory

and Geoff who are good friends of John Lear." Just at that time the

phone rang with the call waiting feature, and Cooper refused to

hold till I could find out who called. He hung up and refused to

speak any further. This seemed out of character for a person that

felt that their information was legitiment.   



I next spoke to Bob Lazar. Lazar was burned out at the UFO field by

this time, and it really doesn't take much to understand why. I

asked Lazar if he had been arrested and charged with any crimes,

and as of this date, no charges have been filed. The involvment

with prostitution came as a result of Lazar selling a computer to

the alledged bordello, and writing a software program for cash

recieved. When asked about a drug lab, Lazar explained his research

lab and various scientific equipment that he has there. "The

"speed" might be explained by my work with hi-tech jet cars" he

stated. "Cooper is an intelligent man, and the two times I've seen

him, well I hate to call someone a psychopath but he really acts

crazy. He seems to believe a lot of what he says to the point he

will fight about them and get violent."  "You mean", I countered,

that he will get physically violent?" "Yes, on the only two

occasions I have seen him, and there was usually liquor involved,

not beer or anything, but liquor, he will get violent. I walked in

on something with my sister-in-law, ... after a brief time talking

to Cooper, he got up screaming and throwing stuff around, he was a

lunatic." Another charge leveled by Cooper alledged that Lear, once

in the company of Cooper and several others, claimed Lear called

Lazar up to send a hooker over to Lears home. Lazar stated that

"thats absurd, and why its absurd is my involvement with the

bordello was in January of 1990. It mainly involved some electronic

work and setting up software. When I saw Cooper was long before

that, and in either case I would not be the guy anyone called. I

had no connections to get anyone. I deny his whole allegation.   



"Everyone seems to have a Bill Cooper story, and mine is a paper I

wrote in Los Alamos concerning Project Excalibur. I wrote that in

1988, I had a witness there while I typed that word for word. I

printed that out, Lear was hot on the trail looking for

connections, and that filled everything, he essentially had all the

information that was to be had. John then gave a copy to Bill

Cooper and I heard Cooper reading that verbatium, word for word at

the MUFON convention. He claimed to have seen it in the mid-70s. I

then heard him on Billy Goodman show. I called him, he recognized

the voice. He said he knew who I was. I then asked him, Bill that

Excalibur missle thing, did you get that at John Lears or did you

read that in the 70's. I gave him an out if he had forgotten. He

said no, "I read that word for word in 1973". I said okay and

thanks. That was my first confirmation that this guy was a complete

liar. I had just typed that in 1988. The witness that saw me type

this was Gene Huff."