From dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Mon Oct 28 17:30:00 1991 Path: dorm.rutgers.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!iWarp.intel.com|ogicse!usenet.coe.montana.edu!masscomp!peora!tarpit!bilver!dona From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic Subject: PUERTO RICO - Military Airplanes Follow a UFO Message-ID: <1991Oct28.223000.29705@bilver.uucp> Date: 28 Oct 91 22:30:00 GMT Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL Lines: 77 The following article was sent to Jim Greenen, the MUFON state section leader for the Orlando, Florida chapter of MUFON from the publisher of "EL VOCERO" Newspaper in San Juan, PR. These articles were in turn translated by a friend at my workplace, Maricruz Rodriquez and many thanks for her efforts :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Military Airplanes Follow a UFO ------------------------------- by Agustin Munoz EFE Agency Published in EL VOCERO, San Juan, Puerto Rico - August 30,1991 ============================================================== ADJUNTAS - Residents of Adjuntas say to be witness Wednesday night of a spectacular presence in the sky when two military airplanes followed a unidentified flying object. The townspeople have made demands to the authorities and police of this place. Tono Perez, resident of Barrio Garzas of Adjuntas said that at 7:00 PM he was on his way home when he noticed a light moved rapidly, followed by two airplanes he couldn't describe. Also two other brothers by the name of Belvis communicated with a local radio station (WPJC) offering the same version. Airplanes follow it ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ But the most dramatic moment experienced by the neighbors of Adjuntas happenned at 9:00 PM when they saw a group of airplanes described as A-7 and F-14 following a lighted UFO, which they claim flies every night over the town. The spectacular sight was visioned more clearly in Barrio Yayales-Guilarte, as so explained by Angel Luis Torres, owner of the residence where they extablished a UFO observatory. Torres said that three of the airplanes kept flying continuosly around the area of Guilarte and then continued the pursuit around the area of Sector Las Minas, when eight other military airplanes were returning from (los barrios) Juan Gonzalez and Pellejas located at the minera zone of Adjuntas. Incredible for the town ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It was incredible what the towns people saw last night; now nobody could say that only a few of us saw the flying objects", expressed Edwin Plaza, a young publisher that participated in the investigation of UFO's, that was being made by some groups. This week the Mayor of Adjuntas, Rigoberto Ramos said that accompanied by his wife,Blanca and the president of the Municipal Assembly, Cesar Nieves, watched the flying objects over the skies of this town. -* EOF *- Don -- -* Don Allen *- InterNet: dona@bilver.UUCP // Amiga..for the best of us. USnail: 1818G Landing Dr, Sanford Fl 32771 \X/ Why use anything else? :-) UUCP: ..uunet!tarpit!bilver!vicstoy!dona KING George Bush?? Just say NO! UFO's in commercials....is the GOVT getting us ready for OCTOBER of 1992? From dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Mon Oct 28 17:32:52 1991 Path: dorm.rutgers.edu!rutgers!uwm.edu!wupost!uunet!iWarp.intel.com|ogicse!usenet.coe.montana.edu!masscomp!peora!tarpit!bilver!dona From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic Subject: PUERTO RICO: Confirmed Presence of UFO's Message-ID: <1991Oct28.223252.29774@bilver.uucp> Date: 28 Oct 91 22:32:52 GMT Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL Lines: 65 The following article was sent to Jim Greenen, the MUFON state section leader for the Orlando, Florida chapter of MUFON from the publisher of "EL VOCERO" Newspaper in San Juan, PR. These articles were in turn translated by a friend at my workplace, Maricruz Rodriquez and many thanks go to her for the effort. :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confirmed Presence of UFO's --------------------------- by Julio Victor Ramirez Publisher - EL VOCERO Article from EL VOCERO, San Juan, Puerto Rico September 2, 1991 =============================================================== Lajas- What could be confirmation of the experience lived last Thursday by the publisher and ten other people who claim they saw strange lights coming out of the Laguna Cartagena, thirty other people witnessed the same on Sunday morning. The investigator of UFO's, Wilson Sosa explained that a blue, red,orange triangle of lights appeared in the water, lighting up the place. The extraordinary spectacular started to be seen at 11:00 PM Saturday until 3:00 AM. In the moment when the incident occurred, Sosa said that he was in company of the UFO investigators, Jose Luis Pacheco, Edgar Pacheco, German Castillo, Sonia Acevedo and Rosy Castillo. Also in the area of Laguna Cartagena was Hito Ramirez, his wife Marisol, two of his sons and fourteen other people with them. Also, two police agents witnessed the event but asked not to be identified, Sosa said. "This confirms what was published by EL VOCERO", said Sosa. Sosa discarded that the lights coming from the lake were reflected by other lights or luminized fish. "Definately something strange was there and the authorities have the responsibility to investigate what was seen", said the investigator. This caused the attention of people visiting the surrounding area of the lake to laugh and make jokes about this. "This is something very serious that should not be taken lightly", said Sosa. ---* End of article *--- Don -- -* Don Allen *- InterNet: dona@bilver.UUCP // Amiga..for the best of us. USnail: 1818G Landing Dr, Sanford Fl 32771 \X/ Why use anything else? :-) UUCP: ..uunet!tarpit!bilver!vicstoy!dona KING George Bush?? Just say NO! UFO's in commercials....is the GOVT getting us ready for OCTOBER of 1992? From dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Mon Oct 28 17:37:41 1991 Path: dorm.rutgers.edu!rutgers!uwm.edu!wupost!uunet!iWarp.intel.com|ogicse!usenet.coe.montana.edu!masscomp!peora!tarpit!bilver!dona From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic Subject: PUERTO RICO: Jorge Martin and UFO's over Ramsey AFB Message-ID: <1991Oct28.223741.114@bilver.uucp> Date: 28 Oct 91 22:37:41 GMT Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL Lines: 82 The following came off the MUFONET UFO echo a few months back.. ------- Begin included text -------------------------------------- Message #6970 - BAMA Date : 03-Jun-91 0:22 From : JOHN KOMAR To : All Subject : Ozark UFO Conference: Part 3 MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OZARK UFO CONFERENCE RECAP - Part 3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JORGE MARTIN: Puerto Rican journalist and editor, Enigma magazine, on "The Puerto Rico UFO Story", Assistant State Director/MUFON for Puerto Rico. Martin presented a detailed, carefully documented account of a growing UFO phenomenon in southwest Puerto Rico. Since April 1967, when a giant UFO was sighted over Ramsey AFB, UFO activity and government involvement in an increasingly bizarre series of events has occurred. It may have climaxed on the night of December 28, 1988, when a witness took several photographs of F-14's circling a large UFO. More than 60 witnesses from at least three locations watched the incident in which the F-14's were seen to merge with the UFO never to be seen again. This incident was described in the January, 1990, "MUFON UFO Journal". The Puerto Rico saga had intensified on May 31, 1987, when an explosion and tremors, computed to have been 80,000 feet below Laguna Cartagena, occurred. Crevasses appeared and black smoke was reported coming from them. Further, witnesses reported people in contamination suits arrived on the scene and took samples, but the government denies any of this happened. Many witnesses described a huge ball of red light falling slowly into the lagoon at 10:30 pm the night before the explosion. For two or three days after the explosion many witnesses reported huge UFOs in the area. The area, which had long been contaminated to the point little wildlife existed, was put off limits to the public and later acquired by the government as a wildlife management area. The Laguna Cartagena area and a nearby small island off the coast have been a hotbed of UFO activity, with many sightings and photographs taken by pilots, fishermen, tourists and others. UFOs have been seen entering and rising out of the water. Several aircraft and pilots have disappeared under strange circumstances. Analysis of the photographs of the UFO with the F-14's shows no evidence of fraud, but the owner of the negatives has thus far refused to release them for scientific examination fearing government confiscation. The government is expanding it's holdings around Laguna Cartagena, allegedly to put up a Voice of America radio station there. Also, since these incidents began, the Navy has kept a carrier task force in the immediate area and six AWAC planes are kept in the area. --* EOF *-- Don -- -* Don Allen *- InterNet: dona@bilver.UUCP // Amiga..for the best of us. USnail: 1818G Landing Dr, Sanford Fl 32771 \X/ Why use anything else? :-) UUCP: ..uunet!tarpit!bilver!vicstoy!dona KING George Bush?? Just say NO! UFO's in commercials....is the GOVT getting us ready for OCTOBER of 1992? From dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Mon Oct 28 17:40:45 1991 Path: dorm.rutgers.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!ogicse!usenet.coe.montana.edu!masscomp!peora!tarpit!bilver!dona From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic Subject: PUERTO RICO: AP Article on Laguna Cartagena UFO's Message-ID: <1991Oct28.224045.209@bilver.uucp> Date: 28 Oct 91 22:40:45 GMT Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL Lines: 74 The following article was sent to Jim Greenen, the MUFON state section leader for the Orlando, Florida chapter of MUFON from the publisher of "EL VOCERO" Newspaper in San Juan, PR. These articles were in turn translated by a friend at my workplace, Maricruz Rodriquez and many Thanks go to her for the efforts. :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THE LAGUNA CARTAGENA --------------------------------------- WITH OR WITHOUT UFO's >From EL VOCERO, San Juan, Puerto Rico, August 5, 1991 (AP) LAJAS - The Laguna Cartagena, National Refuge of Birds between Lajas and Cabo Rojo, will now be open to the public. The Federal Agency of game hunting, fishing and wild life has made the announcement. The announcement from the Agency of game hunting, fishing and wild life was made known to the Interior Department of the United States when residents of the area alleged they saw unidentified flying objects in that place. They went to the police to complain. A lot of people (half a score or 10) went that night to the coast near La Pargera and Maguayo to observe objects they allege are UFO's. The police don't confirm or refute those versions. The Public is invited --------------------- The Doctor Fred C. Schaffner, Biologist, member of the Federal Agency, invited the public to visit the immense Laguna of more than 400 cords (cuerdas per original article) of swamp terrain and sweet water. It is part of the National Refuge of Birds with more than 800 cords (cuerdas per original article) of extension. The Government of Puerto Rico, under the administration of Governor Rafael Hernandez Colon, acquired the Laguna, that until 1950 served as a refuge for aquatic birds, but in the last decades was affected by the expanded agriculture. In the press communique, Schaffner said there's still a collection of interesting wild life, and they are trying to restore the place to natural habitat of a lot of species. But, the public interested in visiting the Laguna Cartagena must be prepared to confront rustic conditions. Frank Gaud Associated Press --* EOF *-- Don -- -* Don Allen *- InterNet: dona@bilver.UUCP // Amiga..for the best of us. USnail: 1818G Landing Dr, Sanford Fl 32771 \X/ Why use anything else? :-) UUCP: ..uunet!tarpit!bilver!vicstoy!dona KING George Bush?? Just say NO! UFO's in commercials....is the GOVT getting us ready for OCTOBER of 1992? From dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Mon Oct 28 17:45:17 1991 Path: dorm.rutgers.edu!rutgers!ub!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!uunet!ogicse!usenet.coe.montana.edu!masscomp!peora!tarpit!bilver!dona From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic Subject: PUERTO RICO: MUFONET message on sightings in PR Message-ID: <1991Oct28.224517.290@bilver.uucp> Date: 28 Oct 91 22:45:17 GMT Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL Lines: 78 The following came off the MUFONET UFO echo.. ----Begin included text ---------------------------------------- Message #8191 - MUFONET Date : 23-Sep-91 4:12 From : JOHN KOMAR To : All Subject : Puerto Rico Sightings The following message is from Carlos Steffens. Carlos will post any new information as it arrives: Date: 09-22-91 12:27 From: Carlos Steffens To: John Komar Subj: Latin UFOs The island is going crazy again! Multiple sighting of UFOs and abduction reports. All this is taking place in the SW part of the island. If you remember the photos Jorge showed you, that is the area where they were taken at. There have been 2 recent talk shows regarding the subject and Jorge Martin appeared in both. Maybe we should get in contact with him. A particaular case involves a man from NY who came to live to PR, in the SW part of the island (as related to me by my grandmother, last night). A group of civil engineers were traveling in a car when they came upon this man lying on the road. He was shivering. He asked for a doctor and for a priest (she didn't go into details). This was his story: He was standing in front of his house, during the day, when he was taken away by these aliens (she provided no details about how he was taken away). He said he was examined by these people and that they gave him some messages. Among them, were the following: 1) that they come in peace; 2) to note how they always appear near areas of "clear water". (Clear water is a literal translation from Spanish. Could also mean, clean water or fresh water.) The man was found pretty far from where he was abducted. The media has avoided any mention of cow mutilations in that area, although I don't know if that subject was covered in the talk shows. These events have taken place in the last few weeks. My grandfather, who is a complete skeptic, told me that some people have tried to investigate the area but have been hindered by the US federal government. Seems they have control of all those lands. There are also reports that engineers belonging to NASA are now visiting the island and working in that restricted part. It is hard to emphasize the amount of sightings and their frequency. They are becoming very, very common. However, it should be noted that nobody has come out publicly with any photos. There are burned circles in the grass, like those that are said made by UFOs, but no photos of the UFOs themselves (it is these rings in the grass that make me think cow mutilations have happened but have not been reported). That is about all the information I have right now. --* EOF *-- Don -- -* Don Allen *- InterNet: dona@bilver.UUCP // Amiga..for the best of us. USnail: 1818G Landing Dr, Sanford Fl 32771 \X/ Why use anything else? :-) UUCP: ..uunet!tarpit!bilver!vicstoy!dona KING George Bush?? Just say NO! UFO's in commercials....is the GOVT getting us ready for OCTOBER of 1992? From dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Mon Oct 28 17:48:16 1991 Path: dorm.rutgers.edu!rutgers!ub!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!uunet!ogicse!usenet.coe.montana.edu!masscomp!peora!tarpit!bilver!dona From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic Subject: PUERTO RICO: MUFONET message on 2 F-14's and UFO's Message-ID: <1991Oct28.224816.359@bilver.uucp> Date: 28 Oct 91 22:48:16 GMT Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL Lines: 85 The following came off the MUFONET UFO echo... ----Begin included text ------------------------------------------ Message #3894 - MUFONET Date : 24-Oct-91 12:42 From : Carlos Steffens To : Greg Larson Subject : Re: Stevens, pictograms, Billy, et al Replies : #2314 <- GL> Has anyone else heard of this? Is anyone from GL> Puerto Rico that is not a disinformation officer willing to comment on GL> all this? Hi Greg, I'm from PR but cannot offer to many comments, unfortunately. The 2 F-14s that disappeared: I first heard of this when Jorge Martin came to visit me while in PR. Seems this triangular-shaped UFO had been making fly-bys over this 2 towns in PR. One night, two f-14 appeared and started harrasing the UFO, i.e. trying to intercept its path, sharp turns in front of it, etc. One F-14 got real close to the side of the UFO and disappeared in mid-air, no explosion was seen or heard, no crash site ever found. Later, the other F-14 came at a high speed towards the back of the UFO: ^ | heading /\ / \ UFO ~~~~~~ $ F-14 ^ When the F-14 got to the point were it should have collided with the UFO, it too disappeared. The UFO then "split in half", the left half heading one way, the right half heading the opposite way. According to Martin, somebody called the base to inquire about the incident and was told that the FAA was handling the investigation. The curious thing is that the FAA has publicly denied the existence of UFOs or their involvement in any such investigations. About the abduction you mentioned: I read the testimony of a man who was abducted in a similar way but no photos were mentioned. I heard of another abduction where the abductee was found in pretty bad shape but no details. If I see Jorge this Christmas, I'll ask him. Regarding El Yunque: sightings seem to be very common in the area around the tropical forest. There are also a few caverns and huge sinkholes in it. Flights over El Yunque have also come upon strange sightings. I saw a photo taken from the cockpit of a Cessna-type craft while flying over El Yunque. The subject photographed was moving so fast that it looked as a continuous light. The person who took the photograph says they noticed that thing flying below them, very close to the tree tops, and that it suddenly disappeared into the tree tops. Forest rangers have reported both UFO and alien being encounters. Rumor has it that some rangers have been abducted and have thus requested reassignment (I wonder why) and that there is an unspoken truce. By this I mean that when rangers come upon aliens they keep on going w/o investigating. According, to Martin, the aliens seen in this part are not the typical greys which are seen in the SW part of the island. I wish I had more to tell or more evidence to show but it has been over a year since I spoke with Jorge Martin and haven't been to PR in about the same amount of time. CarloS --- Maximus-CBCS v1.02 * Origin: Baron Carlos's Castle, D.C. // Where The SysOp Isn't A Member (1:109/160) --* EOF *-- Don -- -* Don Allen *- InterNet: dona@bilver.UUCP // Amiga..for the best of us. USnail: 1818G Landing Dr, Sanford Fl 32771 \X/ Why use anything else? :-) UUCP: ..uunet!tarpit!bilver!vicstoy!dona KING George Bush?? Just say NO! UFO's in commercials....is the GOVT getting us ready for OCTOBER of 1992? From dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Mon Oct 28 17:51:24 1991 Path: dorm.rutgers.edu!rutgers!ub!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!uunet!ogicse!usenet.coe.montana.edu!masscomp!peora!tarpit!bilver!dona From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic Subject: PUERTO RICO: Close Encounter Message-ID: <1991Oct28.225124.428@bilver.uucp> Date: 28 Oct 91 22:51:24 GMT Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL Lines: 66 The following came off the MUFONET BBS system... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 07-29-91 09:03 From: Carlos Steffens Well, I don't know for sure so I would say no. I'm not sure they were real happenings or just dreams. However, my mother has had two very interesting encounters. We (my brother and I) were very young when the first one happened. At that time, my brother had an ear infection and this particular night he was crying because of the pain. My mother got up from her bed and went to the kitchen to get the medicine and realized there was a loud huming sound outside. She looked out the window and saw three UFOs hovering a few feet above the posts that carry the electric wires. After a few seconds she realized what they were and ran to our room. She locked herself there with us until morning broke, when she went to our grandmother's. A few days later, there was a news article that the same night she saw them, there were a lot of reports from all over the island of UFO sightings. She describes what she saw as taking a cup and putting it upside down in a saucer. I don't remember if she said they were red or any other color. However, she did say they were in a "stair" formation: @ - > UFO @ @ T - post I / The second one happened less than five years ago. She was coming from a wedding in the SW part of the island, reknown for its consistent amount of UFO sightings and abductions. She was driving and one of her aunts was with her. They were coming through the expressway when all of a sudden she realized she wasn't in the expressway anymore. She was in a road that was used about 20 years ago, when the expressway didn't exist. Also she was at the beginning of the road instead of where she should have been had she started there. (What I mean is, she was already an hour into the trip and suddenly she was back in another road and just at the point she would be if she had been driving for only 30 min. instead of an hour). The most curious thing happened when they looked at their watches. An hour and 45 min. had gone by but as far as they knew, they had only been driving for an hour. Neither of them can account for those 45 min. nor how they went from the highway all the way back to that old road. I suggested hypnosis but she refuses saying that it might be something related to what she saw when we were young and that terrified her too much. She doesn't want to know what happened. CarloS --* EOF *-- Don -- -* Don Allen *- InterNet: dona@bilver.UUCP // Amiga..for the best of us. USnail: 1818G Landing Dr, Sanford Fl 32771 \X/ Why use anything else? :-) UUCP: ..uunet!tarpit!bilver!vicstoy!dona KING George Bush?? Just say NO! UFO's in commercials....is the GOVT getting us ready for OCTOBER of 1992? From jtg@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Redheaded Goddess) Tue Oct 29 07:22:40 1991 Path: dorm.rutgers.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!cbfsb!cbnewsc!jtg From: jtg@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Redheaded Goddess) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: PUERTO RICO: Close Encounters Message-ID: <1991Oct29.122240.19968@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> Date: 29 Oct 91 12:22:40 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Organization for Titian-Haired Beauties Lines: 22 Don Allen put in a UFO encounter by Carlos S. stating the people experienced strange passages of time, or not feeling time loss, etc. This reminds me of the possibility that it may be some type of time warp (or interference/adjustment on time as we know it). In the past, I myself have experienced very strange experiences dealing with time...such as feeling you have slept the entire night, then waking up at midnight, and someone else going through total disorientation at the same time (sleepwalking, trying to reach the door at another location in the room, etc). When I questioned all this in a trance channel reading I had once, it was explained that this was a time warp used or created (I don't remember exact words) by the lower astral to harm people, etc. So it is my suspicion that some how, some way, time CAN be altered (some type of inter-dimensional thing); and perhaps this is what these people went through when they had their Puerto Rican UFO Encounter. There is so much we do not know about and/or understand. Kathy