From - Wed Oct 16 17:09:54 1996 X-POP3-Rcpt: ez073888@peseta Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by peseta.ucdavis.edu (8.8.0/UCD3.7.1) id QAA10835; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caleb.INS.CWRU.Edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.8.0/UCD3.7.1) id OAA11860; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (aa440@localhost) by caleb.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.7.6+cwru/CWRU-2.3-bsdi) id QAA06119; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:59:34 -0400 (EDT) (from aa440) Message-Id: <199610162059.QAA06119@caleb.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:59:34 -0400 (EDT) From: aa440@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dale Wedge) To: orphillips@ucdavis.edu Subject: Re: FOIA DOCUMENT--Gen. Nathan Twining UFO Letter Reply-To: aa440@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dale Wedge) Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 4814 In a previous article, xx044 (UFOlogy SIG) says: > General Nathan Twining letter re; UFOs: > > 23 September 1947 > >SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs" >TO: Commanding General > Army Air Forces > Washington 25, D.C. > ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen > AC/AS-2 > > 1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the >considered opinion of this command concerning the so-called >"Flying Discs." This opinion is based on interrogation report >data furnished by AC/AS-2 and preliminary studies by personnel >of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineering Division T-3. This >opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from >the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, Office, >Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and >Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3. > > 2. It is the opinion that: > > a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not >visionary or fictitious. > b. There are objects probably approximately the shape of a >disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as >man-made aircraft. > c. There is the possibility that some of the incidents may be >caused by natural phenomena, such as meteors. > d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme >rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and >action which must be considered evasive when sighted or >contacted by friendly aircraft and radar, lend belief to the >possibility that some of the objects are controlled either >manually, automatically or remotely. > e. The apparent common description of the objects is as >follows: > > (1) Metallic or light reflecting surface. > (2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the > object apparently was operating under high performance > conditions. > (3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and > domed on top. > (4) Several reports of well kept formation flights > varying from three to nine objects. > (5) Normally no associated sound, except in three > instances a substantial rumbling roar was noted. > (6) Level flight speeds normally about 300 knots are > estimated. > > f. It is possible within the present U.S. knowledge - >provided extensive detailed development is undertaken--to >construct a piloted aircraft which has the general description >of the object in subparagraph (e) above which would be capable >of an approximate range of 700 miles at subsonic speeds. > g. Any devlopments in this country along the lines indicated >would be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the >considerable expense of current projects and therefore, if >directed, should be set up independently of existing projects. > h. Due consideration must be given the following: > > (1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic > origin - the product of some high security project not > known to AC/AS-2 or this command. > (2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash > recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the > existence of these objects. > (3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form of > propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of our > domestic knowledge. > >3. It is recommended that: > > a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning >a priority, security classification and code name for a detailed >study of this matter to include the preparation of complete sets >of all available and pertinent data which will then be made >available to the Army, Navy, Atomic Energy Commission, JRDB, the >Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the RAND and NEPA >projects for comments and recommendations, with a preliminary >report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the data and >a detailed report thereafter every 30 days as the investigation >develops. A complete interchange of data should be effected. > >4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the >investigation within its current resources in order to more >closely define the nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential >Elements of Information will be formulated immediately for >transmittal thru channels. > > N.F. TWINING > Lieutenant General, U.S.A. > > Commanding. >-- > > > > > >-- > > > > >