Info-ParaNet Letters Volume 1 Issue 34 Subjects - Subject: Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter Subject: Criteria Subject: Re: Public Opinion Subject: Re: New Issue Of Ufo Subject: Spy in the Sky Subject: Gulf Breeze, etc. Subject: Re: Bruce Cathie Subject: Re: Interesting Contradiction Part Ii --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 Sep 89 22:16:52 GMT From: keithr@tolkien.wv.tek.com Subject: Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter M. Cannon mentioned an interest in the historical/sociological aspects of the UFO scene. I am interested in this too. The only extensive comment in book form that I know of is Jacques Vallee's work. See his lastest Dimensions and Messengers of Deception. Also, go directly to the sources and read the old contactee books by George Hunt Williamson (a pseudonym), Howard(?) Menger, Daniel Fry, George Adamski, etc. I will look in George Eberhart's outstanding bibliography of UFOs and related material and report back. The trouble with the magazine UFO literature is that most of it is in UFO specialty magazines and newsletters which public libraries don't collect. So, you have to depend on private collectors and organizations to get back issues. I think CUFOS may have a pretty good collection of UFO magazines. Keith -------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 Sep 89 19:04:00 GMT From: paranet!f69.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Mac.Druaidh Subject: Criteria What are the criteria involved in deducing whether or not a UFO can be explained by some mundane phenomenon? Mac "Interested" Druaidh The System(tm) Op -- Mac Druaidh - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: ...!scicom!363!69!Mac.Druaidh INTERNET: Mac.Druaidh@f69.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 Sep 89 11:05:40 GMT From: paranet!f110.n108.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Doug.Rogers Subject: Re: Public Opinion > Also say, establish an "anti-quoting" rule. No more > then three quote lines per message. > I wish you wouldn't tempt us that way. The posting guidelines for Paranet ask people to limit the scope of their quotes. I haven't noticed anyone in particular who is over quoting, but it's something we all must watch. Doug -- Doug Rogers - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: ...!scicom!108!110!Doug.Rogers INTERNET: Doug.Rogers@f110.n108.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 Sep 89 19:25:00 GMT From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith Subject: Re: New Issue Of Ufo > Have you recieved my Netmail message? > It might not get there. I was informed by our Network > Co-ordinator that there is a problem with Netmail, and he I don't recall getting one from you right at the moment, I'll go check the Net mail area again though just to be sure. What Net did you say you were in ? > As for the Sats, wouldnt it be nice to have a reciever that > could tune into there frequency, and a decoder to I read a story about a kid who was working with his own tracking system and was able to decode signals from a Russian spy in the sky Satellite before the military was able to figure it out. He turned the information over to his collage instructor who gave it to the military. I understand the military paied the kid a visit and ask him to keep all of that information "under hat." > These "Spy Sats" would be beaming back all sorts of > interesting pictures, and no doubt that they would have > caught some UFO pictures. I would think so. I understand they can zoom in on something very quickly and are able to identify almost anything. At least they could get close enough to see what it wasn't. > been over a spot where regular UFO sighting occur. Wouldnt > you like to look through the Militaries photo album! Yes I would :-) ...Bryon -- Bryon Smith - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: ...!scicom!19!19!Bryon.Smith INTERNET: Bryon.Smith@f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 Sep 89 16:39:43 GMT From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!T.s..Bennett Subject: Spy in the Sky That's a graet story about the kid with the tracking system Bryan, but that's the kind of story that the "Enqirer" would probably not even pay you for. The fact is that the spy satellites, both ours and theirs, are in low earth orbit, 120 to 250 miles from the surface, they are travelling usually at 18,000 miles per hour, since that's escape velocity from earth's "gravity", and keeps them by means of "centrifugal force" from "falling" back to earth in a short time. The other operative, and most important factor that completely debunks your story is that while Russian satellites are over us, they are RECEIVING INFORMATION, when they get around the earth to be over Russia, they DOWNLOAD the information picked up while over the rest of the world. Our satellites do the reverse, DOWNLOADING while over the United States. I think if anything in your story is true, although its hard to believe a kid has "tracking" equipment that will follow such fast moving targets in the sky! (15 seconds from horizon to horizon, the info being dumped at incredible baud rates, encrypted besides that) Come on Bryan, this isnt the sci fi column!, The kid might have picked up signals from one of our satellites, and our military told him not to give it to the Russkies. -- T.s. Bennett - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: ...!scicom!304!1!T.s..Bennett INTERNET: T.s..Bennett@f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 7 Sep 89 15:00:22 GMT From: paranet!Linda.Murphy Subject: Gulf Breeze, etc. > > Oh...Linda...gotta warn about taking Tom Bearden too seriously. I > suspect he's a mendacious fellow, and I know he's a spook. (I have in my It is not a matter of what is said is REAL or not, but the motivational factors behind most anything that lands our way... If it is subliminal suggestive material to initiate thinking processes that are designed to augment some of the theories we have bounced around, then the very fact that the info is being diseminated to the public it SHOULD be discussed. It is like an individual who reads that headaches may be caused by "abductions". So the headaches increase (already, there is a suggestive implanting at a subliminal level). If there are enough subliminal suggestives introduced into the mind over a length of time, and the mind begins to believe it as possibilities, then the probability of it being believed as something actual is high. (Get the drift?).... It seems that the two go hand in hand. The initial experience (leaving the mind in a highly suggestive state) and the "propoganda" are neccessary in order to work. (ANY type of mind control REQUIRES the removal of certain thought processes, and introducing new processes)... We could equate probable new technology and methods of mind control with short cut methods of the Persian Assassin methods of indoctrination into the "brotherhood". The elements are there. ( 1:304/1) -- Linda Murphy - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: ...!scicom!Linda.Murphy INTERNET: Linda.Murphy@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Sep 89 06:35:00 GMT From: paranet!f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bob.Fletcher Subject: Re: Bruce Cathie > Hello Bob. No, I haven't seen the N.Z. file on Quiet ^^^^ > Earth...must look in the library. Best, Clark Sorry about my typing that was supposed to be "Film" as in "Movie". I get new specs tomorrow. Bob........ -- Bob Fletcher - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: ...!scicom!30163!401!Bob.Fletcher INTERNET: Bob.Fletcher@f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Sep 89 06:38:00 GMT From: paranet!f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bob.Fletcher Subject: Re: Interesting Contradiction Part Ii > Hello, Frank. Are you from "down under"? I gather that you > must be. I'm curious -- is the Pine Gap base a NORAD facility > or something else? You see, NORAD as far as I know is strictly > a North American organization. Having read Bruce Cathie's Well you are right about the organisation. I afraid they are unable to keep it there. :-) Bob..... -- Bob Fletcher - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: ...!scicom!30163!401!Bob.Fletcher INTERNET: Bob.Fletcher@f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INFO-PARANET NEWSLETTER ADMIN paranet-request@scicom.alphacdc.com ARTICLE SUBMISSION infopara@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM