Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 47 Monday, September 25th 1989 Today's Topics: And what of Socorro? Meteorite Brings 'Mail' From Mars Re: Unsolved Mysteries Unsolved Mysteries... Re: Unsolved Mysteries This is getting intersting Which one is nuts? Re: Unsolved Mysteries Re: Unsolved Mysteries Bill Moore as 'Savior' of the UFOlogical Community Re: Unsolved Mysteries ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rcw Subject: And what of Socorro? Date: 24 Sep 89 07:32:56 GMT The Unsolved Mystery segment was very convincing and pretty well done. Some time ago, a set of documents regarding this incident was published on USENET. If any of you have a copy of them, can you please send them to me via e-mail? If someone can also provide me with the date of the alleged incident, I have an extensive weather database for eastern New Mexico, and I would like to see if I can verify the violent thunderstorm activity mentioned the night of the crash. Does anyone have precise coordinates or know the exact location of the crash? If not, then how far and in what direction from Socorro? Robert White rcw@scicom.alphacdc.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Meteorite Brings 'Mail' From Mars Date: 23 Sep 89 20:41:00 GMT Just food for thought, but I came across this article in the Rocky Mountain News regarding an interesting finding relating to Mars. I am interested if anyone subscribes to Nature. If so, would they kindly submit this article in its entirety and provide me with subscription information. DATE OF ARTICLE: September 22, 1989 SOURCE OF ARTICLE: Rocky Mountain News LOCATION: Denver, Colorado BYLINE: None ======================================================== (C) Copyright 1989 ParaNet Information Service All Rights Reserved. ======================================================== METEORITE BRINGS 'MAIL' FROM MARS A meteorite that thousands of years ago crashed onto Antarctica apparently brought with it organic matter from the planet Mars. This finding, reported by British scientists at the Open University in Milton Keynes, has fueled debate once again about the possibility of life on the 'red planet'. The scientists found the organic carbon and nitrogen materials in a meteorite that an American team dug out of the Antarctic ice in 1979. In the British journal Nature, Dr. Ian P. Wright and his colleagues recently reported that the meteorite possibly produced the first 'organic connection' with Mars yet to be found. ================================================================= -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Keenan.Anderson Subject: Re: Unsolved Mysteries Date: 21 Sep 89 18:02:11 GMT I think Unsolved Mysteries did a very good job on Roswell. I'm surprised at how it seemed that they were trying to convince instead of debunk. Usually, TV has either a really cynical view (like Larry King with Streiber last night) or sensationalize it beyond belief. And I'm surprised how long and involved the story was instead of a quick mention. -- Keenan Anderson - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keenan.Anderson@f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jon.Long Subject: Unsolved Mysteries... Date: 21 Sep 89 23:35:34 GMT Yes, I agree with everybody so far, it was a very well done piece. It did not try to discredit the people involved or the incident, instead I go tthe impression that they were trying to convince and portray it seriously, rather than some joke with stupid alien sets(UFO Cover Up:Live). I must say I was impressed, and with the audience that the show has, it will reach many people who may know something about the incident, or simply to put a little thought of the whole UFO concept to people who think that it is all a bunch of s**t.... -Jon L.- -- Jon Long - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jon.Long@f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Keenan.Anderson Subject: Re: Unsolved Mysteries Date: 22 Sep 89 13:25:53 GMT Well, Cyro, the story goes: the artifacts and the 'ship' were transfered to Wright-Patterson in Ohio (hence 'Hangar 18'). And as far as the bodies go : don't ask me, all I've seen about it was the stuff going round by Lear, Cooper, etc. And I didn't even KNOW that any civilians had seen the actual ship and bodies. The farmer who first saw it died in '68 or '69 (don't remember) and according to Unsolved Mysteries, no one could find the archaeology students. Maybe now that it was on TV, some of them might step forward (or so we hope). --Keenan-- -- Keenan Anderson - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keenan.Anderson@f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Keenan.Anderson Subject: This is getting intersting Date: 22 Sep 89 13:32:06 GMT I just read the excerpt from Moore's letter, Jim. According to him, Bennewitz ISN'T crazy or lying, but somebody's feeding him 'fluff'. This is getting pretty interesting now. I'm just new to this 'disinformation' stuff. If somebody would tell me what the heck THAT implies it'd help a lot. I don't mean to sound like Devil's advocate, but you've got to admit it's starting to sound a little paranoid. --Keenan-- -- Keenan Anderson - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keenan.Anderson@f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Joe.Holland Subject: Which one is nuts? Date: 23 Sep 89 20:01:46 GMT DW> Don, we all know that you are a governmental disinformation specialist Your orders: bring the downfall of organized UFOLOGY as we know it.< I had wondered why you got thrown out, since I did not bother to follow all the gory details. You just made it perfectly clear why: you deserved it. You're on again for only a few weeks, and now you are at it again. When you make a statement like that, I assume offhand that you are nuts, and that it would be a waste of time to ask if you could back up what you say. -- Joe Holland - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Joe.Holland@f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Re: Unsolved Mysteries Date: 24 Sep 89 08:50:00 GMT > Cyro are you still doing ALPHA? I cannot seem to find it > anymore! > --- QuickBBS v2.04 > * Origin: -==- Denver, CO (303)431-1343 > (1:104/422) Huh? Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Re: Unsolved Mysteries Date: 24 Sep 89 16:24:00 GMT > I think Unsolved Mysteries did a very good job on Roswell. > I'm surprised > at how it seemed that they were trying to convince instead > of debunk. > Usually, TV has either a really cynical view (like Larry > King with Streiber last night) or sensationalize it beyond > belief. And I'm surprised how long and involved the story > was instead of a quick mention. > > Although I have not seen this segment yet, it is on the way, ParaNet was involved to a very small degree with the producers of the show and I found that a lot of detail was paid to the dramatization of the segment. I understand that this was to the tune of about $200,000.00 for the props. Nevertheless, I feel that they did a good job in the presentation of the material, however I would have liked to see the money spent on props better applied to more research and more of a documentary format presenting this detailed research. Stan Friedman was a paid consultant on this segment and Stan only got a very small piece. Too bad, because Stan makes such a good case. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Bill Moore as 'Savior' of the UFOlogical Community Date: 24 Sep 89 17:16:00 GMT With all of the statements going back and forth, particularly Bill Moore's conscious soothing writings pertaining to Paul Bennewitz, I am shocked at the apparent lighthearted attitude that he is taking while at the same time setting himself up as the self-styled, self-appointed 'Savior' of ufology. Although I have *not* seen his transcript of the speech delivered at the Las Vegas MUFON, I would *not* pay the $10.00 'exploitive' fee for this discertation, I am a person of ethics. Irregardless of how he or anyone else 'sugar-coats' these irresponsible actions, the fact still remains that he knowingly contributed to the emotional destruction, among other things, of a fellow human being and cohort in the field. He claims that he does it in the name of Ufology. This is not only absurd, but is another untruth in the rapidly growing reams of untruths already unveiled in this elaborate scheme. I have never been impressed with Bill Moore or his research. It appears that this man has never had any serious interest in anything whatsoever to do with this mystery except the exploitation of it by virtue holding findings and failure to cooperate with other investigators in the field until it was financially feasible for him to release his information. I may be totally wrong about all of this, but I cannot help but feel that this is just another 'brick in the wall' for disinformation. I also do not feel that Mr. Moore has sufficiently answered our questions about his possible involvement in the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), or for that part, whether he is still involved with them in some other plot to do someone else in. We must never lose sight of one thing. A person is only as good as their word. Their integrity is all that they have. The question that should be carefully scrutinized here is 'Has Mr. Moore's integrity been compromised here'? If so, what steps should be taken to assure that this crass action is never repeated? I, for one, feel that a public censure is in order. I feel that it is our responsibility to demand that this never happen again. Of course, I stress, that this is all my personal opinion. Bill Moore is most likely a real nice guy, but his actions should be carefully considered. Sally Sheridan has prepared an essay which follows. I feel that this is totally appropriate and I hope that we all can concur. DATE OF UPLOAD: September 10, 1989 ORIGIN OF UPLOAD: ParaNet Alpha/Denver, Colorado CONTRIBUTED BY: Sally Sheridan ======================================================== WHY ETHICS MATTER AN ESSAY BY SALLY SHERIDAN Are we about to live through extraordinary times in the history of mankind? Let's assume for a moment that we are. The rumors and tone of the UFO literature have become deadly serious. It isn't much fun to be a UFO investigator anymore. I keep thinking about the people living in Western Europe during the Nazi Era; the people living in Amsterdam at the time Anne Frank's family was hiding. I wonder if I would have had the courage to hide them. I think about that a lot. These days we scrutinize the behavior of people who lived through that time. We praise and admire the ones who did not. I believe we investigators may be living through a time when similarly enormous stresses and, yes, dangers may threaten us. And for that reason I think we all should think about how we should proceed. I think we all should think about how far we are willing to go to get credit for the Big Story. Here is a quiz to measure your Ethics Quotient. Question: How far would you go if you could be reasonably certain of being the investigator who would get the credit for finally breaking the UFO mystery? A. BETRAYAL 1. Would you betray a stranger or an acquaintance? (for example, divulging a name you promised to keep secret?) 2. Would you betray a close friend? 3. Would you betray another investigator? 4. Would you betray a member of your family? B. RISKING HARM (physical, emotional, financial or other forms of harm) 5. Would you risk possible harm to a stranger or an acquaintance? 6. Would you risk possible harm to a close friend? 7. Would you risk possible harm to another investigator? 8. Would you risk possible harm to a member of your family? C. CAUSING HARM (physical, emotional, financial or other forms of harm) 9. Would you CAUSE harm to a stranger or an acquaintance? 10. Would you CAUSE harm to a close friend? 11. Would you CAUSE harm to another investigator? 12. Would you CAUSE harm to a member of your family? SCORING There is only one right answer. NO to all of the above without any equivocation! CONCLUSION Whatever the future holds, we must experience it as decently, as ethically as we possibly can. I believe that no secret, not even this one, is so important that we have to get to it by stepping on our brothers and sisters. No times are so stressful that it becomes acceptable to betray, risk or knowingly cause harm to a fellow human being. At the beginning of this essay I assumed that we are living through, or are about to live through, extraordinary times. I really do not know if this assumption is true. What if it is not? What if none of the Lear-Bennewitz- Cooper-Moore-"aliens making deals with the government" material is true? What if the world just goes on with its mundane problems? Then, if we've justified answering "yes" to any part of the quiz, we've betrayed, risked, and/or caused harm to others for NOTHING. Either way, if its real or if its not, ethics matter because living in dangerous times does not excuse us from the responsibility and the obligation to act ethically. ================================================================= Sally Sheridan is an investigator for the Center for UFO Studies and is also the MUFON Section Director for Yuma County, Arizona. She is also a special contributor to ParaNet. She is currently researching the connection between UFOs and the Tibetan culture as reflected in Tibetan Buddhist teachings Michael Corbin -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Clark.Matthews Subject: Re: Unsolved Mysteries Date: 24 Sep 89 20:15:00 GMT Hello Jim. As you see I'm back. Hope you and Mary are well, happy & still fighting the good fight. RE: Your response on the Unsolved Mysteries show (which I MISSED!), as has any effort been made to identify archaeology faculties within UPa? Might require digging thru old yearbooks for the many U. Pa schools, but the info must be there. Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To have your thoughts in the next issue, please send electronic mail to 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,nbires,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,nbires,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************************************************************************** End of Info-ParaNet Newsletter ********************************************************************************