Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 61 Saturday, October 14th 1989 Today's Topics: Re: Soviet Sightings Larry King Re: Soviet Sightings Re: Russian Update Re: Roswell Update! Don Ecker on Larry King Live Tonight! Re: Larry King Birmingham Abduction Story Re: Larry King Re: Soviet Sightings Hello again A Melbourne Sighting The Soviet Media ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Linda.Murphy Subject: Re: Soviet Sightings Date: 12 Oct 89 23:38:31 GMT > That WAS the story. NOW the story is, "See the effect of the story on the > American people. They really think aliens landed in Russia!" (See today's > New York Times). Since you are so close to the journalistic viewpoint, and know the influence the media has on people who watch the news, etc., followed the phenomenon for so long, to what degree or percentage do you think previous saturation to UFO related material may have shaped the way the average person reacted to the report? And why the formation of "instant" definition (in spite of lack of full verification, or how the journalist assessed the report) were made? I don't intend to pick this apart with you! But it is still interesting that although we have our own UFO's, the Soviets went and made headlines with their report, that stirred up the "pot" the way it did, while individuals such as yourself have been trying to get some type of reaction from the media with fair coverage here in the United States for so long (making reference to your surveys and etc.). Just to add a little bit of humor to this, a "roving reporter" type CNN news clip asked different people if they belived in UFO's, and one individual reacted with this: "It's a plan by the government to distract people from their problems." ( 1:304/1) -- Linda Murphy - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Murphy@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder Subject: Larry King Date: 13 Oct 89 05:05:58 GMT Don: Was fortunate enough to catch you on Larry King Thursday night. Unfortunately I only saw the last 10 minutes. But you were great! Professional, armed with facts you made an excellent presentation. It's unfortunate that you were opposed by Peter (whats-his-name). I can't think of anything good to say about him and some of the adjectives I like to use describing him I don't want to post here. I hope you're invited back. I'd like to see and hear more of what you have to say. I hope if you do have prior knowledge you'll let us know about it. Again, great job! -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Keenan.Anderson Subject: Re: Soviet Sightings Date: 12 Oct 89 19:17:22 GMT Good point. From the new info I've seen, it's kind of a questionable story since a giant apartment complex was only 200 yards away in full view of the area and no adults reported anything...but anyway, there HAS beenn a lot of new news coverage of UFOs. Last night, CNN on their NewsNight 900 poll had the question 'Have you seen a UFO?'...loaded question, dont you think? If you haven't seen one, would YOU call? And I'm still surprised the NY Times and The Washington Post ran it front page below the fold... -- Keenan Anderson - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keenan.Anderson@f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Keenan.Anderson Subject: Re: Russian Update Date: 12 Oct 89 19:23:05 GMT CNN also said (I should say Soviet Television) that no rumors of an alien landing were in the area until AFTER the reporter talked to the boys...THEN residents started to beilieve in the story...I should also point out that every night the Soviets have a faith healer on who waves his hands...it's watched by 200 million people... -- Keenan Anderson - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keenan.Anderson@f319.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Re: Roswell Update! Date: 13 Oct 89 02:01:00 GMT > With the revelations of Bill Moore, will this place more > doubt on the Roswell incident???? By all means, I would say no. Actually, I got the impression that there is something to MJ-12 that has been "linked" to the Roswell Incident. However, Schmitt was careful to make sure that there was no solid connection between what they are doing and what Friedman is doing with his investigation into MJ-12. It is quite possible that the MJ-12 affair, as mentioned, could have been a disinformation campaign to get the Roswell case under control and out of the public eye. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Don Ecker on Larry King Live Tonight! Date: 13 Oct 89 02:06:00 GMT Don Ecker will be on Larry King Live tonight (10/12/89). All reading this should watch and give Don their support. He sounded a bit nervous . Good luck, Don, and give 'em HELL!!! Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Don.Ecker Subject: Re: Larry King Date: 13 Oct 89 20:53:00 GMT Paul: Thanks for the support. To tell you the truth, I enjoyed ol' Pete whatshisname! Could not have come up with a better opponent. He is another one of the "can't be for real, so it ain't!" kind of guy. Ol Pat B. and he started to squirm, (so I was told, I did not have a monitor to see them with) when I started hitting them with documented facts. That is the biggest problem, no one for the most part IS AWARE of what facts we do have. Well, will have to wait and see. Once more, thanks. Don -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Jeff.Ballard Subject: Birmingham Abduction Story Date: 13 Oct 89 21:52:00 GMT Hello Mike, I uploaded a transcription of the B'ham News story that ran on 10/10. This is the first time I've used the editor and terminal software used to do this upload...Let me know if it got there O.K.....O.K.?? -- Jeff Ballard - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jeff.Ballard@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Ely.Silk Subject: Re: Larry King Date: 13 Oct 89 22:26:00 GMT Don, I am sorry I missed your appearance. When are you planning to be interviewed again? Which show? -- Ely Silk - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Ely.Silk@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Re: Soviet Sightings Date: 13 Oct 89 21:48:00 GMT -> >Just a quick note...the banana-shape quote was an -> >unfortunate choice of words by a credible witness that -> >snowballed into a point of ridicule....anyway, couldn't let -> >that pass......BJB I'm hip, Jeff, and I saw the sketch provided by the Fyffe witness. Its not hard to visually translate "banana" into "boomerang." Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Clark.Matthews Subject: Hello again Date: 14 Oct 89 00:03:00 GMT Hi everyone. I'm back after languishing in the outlands for three weeks! You know, ParaNet's new telephone number isn't exactly common knowledge out there ... And the message the phone company has put on the old number isn't exactly helpful. Just uploaded two files: TASS.TXT and TASSTRUE.TXT, both re: the Voronezh UFO. I had an extended conversation with the Deputy Bureau chief of TASS in New York as well as with an American intern there about this, and will digest the material into a file for future uploading. Suffice to say for now that the Russians are very interested in the political effect this press release is having here in the West. Following on the heels of the Pravda column on "Why UFOs could trigger Star Wars" -- and why the U.S. should drop the SDI immediately, before the UFOs start WW III -- it makes for an interesting story. Oh! A Russian friend of mine provided me with a little Russian proverb about the city of Voronezh: "Voronezh...hoi da gonezh!" It means: Voronezh is full of sh*t. Nice to be back, and I'll inform ParaNet Lambda and Viking Magick of the new telephone number for the board! Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bob.Fletcher Subject: A Melbourne Sighting Date: 14 Oct 89 05:50:00 GMT Transcript from ABC T.V. "News in Brief" 22:30 hrs 13 October 1989..... Was it or wasn't it a UFO? About 30 people reported sighting a large orange cigar shaped object this morning over Elwood Beach. The only physical evidence, a burnt patch of grass, which investigators say may have been caused by a lawn mower. End transcript ............ I will endeavor to get more information on this alleged sighting. -- Bob Fletcher - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bob.Fletcher@f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bob.Fletcher Subject: The Soviet Media Date: 14 Oct 89 06:20:00 GMT On SBS TV tonight was a report on the Soviet printed media. It would seem that since glalnost the Communist Party news paper has lost 2/3 rds of its readership. There is a violent competition for popular readership of all the remaining news papers other than Pravda that is bound by Party idealogy. In the light of the Newspapers, like those in the West, chasing circulation fiqures I would suspect that some distortion could come about. That is not saying that there was not a sighting but what people saw may have been distorted in many ways. I once remembered reading that during an earthquake people often experience illusionary images. This is posible cause through fear of the unknown. I would therefore put it to you that this could be the case in the current soviet sighting. Tall gangly enterties would suggest comming from a planet with a much lower gravity to that of the Earth, that such a planet would not support and atmosphere and therefore no life as we know it would exist. It it did and they walked in a park on earth they would succumb to earth gravity and not get up with any ease. Bob..... -- Bob Fletcher - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bob.Fletcher@f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To have your thoughts in the next issue, please send electronic mail to 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,nbires,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,nbires,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************************************************************************** End of Info-ParaNet Newsletter ********************************************************************************