Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 93 Sunday, December 3rd 1989 Today's Topics: T.S. rants again... Re: The Secret Govt.. PINE GAP Bill Cooper Japan Video UFO'S ARE REAL RE:Stalinism The State of Events Social Security comments Re: Gulf Breeze/circles Re: The Secret Govt.. It had to happen... Re: Lazar And His Amazing Saucers Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base? Re: comments Re: The Fall of Stalinism Re: The Closest Encounter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: upaya!tbetz Subject: T.S. rants again... Date: 1 Dec 89 10:47:01 GMT T. S. Bennett squeals: | I have stated that scientists DONT KNOW WHAT WILL OCCUR |WHEN 50 POUNDS OF PLUTONIUM ENTERS THE ATMOSPHERE OF |JUPITER. THAT'S A FACT. Only a close minded scientist who |hasn't had an original thought since age ten would disagree |with that FACT. You display nothing here but ignorance, stupidity, and general boneheadedness. It's not a fact, it's a baseless assertion. 50 pounds of plutonium is as a microbe on the ocean of Jupiter. It won't do anything but break up and be dispersed. You needn't worry your empty little head about it. In detail, no one can know exactly what will happen - but it's quite clear that it will be quite harmless. You can go back to your fantasy world now, T.S. Mike, do we really have to put up with this crap? -- "I don't run - I tend to black my eyes." - D.Parton | hombre!marob!upaya!tbetz ----------------------------------------------------| tbetz@upaya.lilink.com "One minute I'm in the pasture porkin' ponies, | Tom Betz - GBS the next I'm a can of Mighty Dog!" - Secretariat | (914) 375-1510 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder Subject: Re: The Secret Govt.. Date: 1 Dec 89 04:33:45 GMT In a message of <29 Nov 89 16:25:00 >, Clark Matthews (1:104/422) writes: >Ah-hah! Maybe we have left out the most nefarious suspect: The Social >Security Administration! > >If your dad was receiving social security benefits, they probably >instigated the "freeze." Yes he was receiving benefits. I notified SS of his death. You're probably right about them instigating the freeze. All banks accounts have your SS number. What was amazing was the speed and extent of this freezing. -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bob.Fletcher Subject: PINE GAP Date: 2 Dec 89 05:34:00 GMT With all the controversy of Area 51. I thought that it might be appropriate to raise the question again of Pine Gap in the Northern Territory of Australia in the area around Alice Springs. I raise this now as on the surface there is some similarities. Both bases are situated in deserts. Both of very secret indeed. Officially Pine Gap is a joint Australian/US Defense establishment and part of NORAD. Joint in so far as is on Australian soil but what little we here Australia has very little control in the heart of it. It has on a number of occasions been the focal point for anti-nuclear protesters. To me those sinister white domes supposedly housing radar dishes resembles the SF Film of the 50's "Quatermas II", in which secret government agency was assisting alien lifeforms to establish a hold on earth. Without going into SF I would like to know if the sightings of unusual aerial phenomena is higher around the Alice Springs Area. Bob.... -- Bob Fletcher - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bob.Fletcher@f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Bill.English Subject: Bill Cooper Date: 1 Dec 89 22:49:00 GMT It would seem that Mr. Bill Cooper has been linking his name with mine in regard to"his" viewing of the Grudge/Blue Book Report #13. Some months back (just after the Las Vegas MUFON conference) I dis-associated myself from Mr. Cooper due to blatantly false information that he had given to Len Stringfield concerning myself and my return trip from Las Vegas. He told Len that someone tried to shoot me while I was driving back from Vegas. Since I flew back and did not drive, and since this was a falsehood, I felt that I could not be associated withCooper as it would cause damage to my reputation and everything that I have been trying to accomplish with the exchange of factual information. I once again state clearly that Cooper and I are NOT associated in anyway. I object to his methods, I object to his preying on the fears of those who are not fully informed of the facts and taking their money. Further recent information concerning his activities in the past and present indicate to me that there is serious doubt that he has seen blue book 13 at all. this is an offical statement from myself and can be quoted. signed: William S. English -- Bill English - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bill.English@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Japan Video Date: 1 Dec 89 23:00:00 GMT Last night I spent a pleasant evening at the house of Dave & Marge Christensen, after driving Dr. Richard Haines from Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport to their house in Tucson. After dinner, we viewed a video that Dr. Haines had received from John Timmerman. Dr. Haines had not seen the video, so we were all viewing it for the first time. The video was shot in Japan, time and date unknown, but sometime this year. The sighting took place in a town that began with an H (not Hiroshima). The witnesses were a family, a man, his wife, and teen-age daughter. The family seemed well-off, judging from their house. The time was broad daylight. The man sighted the object with his family, ran in the front door of his house, grabbed his 8mm video camera, which seemed to be a new, high-tech job of Japanese make, and ran out the back door and started filming. Shown on the tape is an object, apparently at a distance, with the gables of a rooftop in the foreground. While it is technically not possible to judge the distance of an unfamiliar object, sometimes you can just tell that something's not any closer than a few hundred yards. With photography, especially, there is a way of telling - graininess, atmospheric diffraction, etc. I would say this object was no closer than a half-mile to a mile. At first the object is indistinguishable. It is a laterally-aligned blob of light, not unlike the fuselage of a large jetliner at about 5 miles, with sunlight glinting off it. However, the object begins to descend rapidly, still "horizontally" aligned, much faster than an airplane would descend under normal - or even abnormal - circumstances. (This is a subjective judgement, however I feel confident that analysis will bear this out.) The photographer zooms in on the object, and it now becomes quite clear that we are not seeing an airplane, a balloon, a bird, Venus, or any other prosaic object. We are seeing a flying saucer. The object is a flat-domed disk. It is seen moving erratically, and at one point it yaws in such a way that sunlight is clearly seen glinting off the shiny surface. The photographer was having some trouble focusing in on the object, while tracking it at the same time. The frame bounces somewhat, not unlike a network news camera tracking a shuttle launch on telephoto. In a couple of frames, however, he succeeds in getting a sharp focus, so sharp that there is no question of what we are viewing. There is no mistaking this for an airplane shot at a funny angle. Nor is there very much chance, subjectively speaking, of this being a model on a string. Whatever flying saucers may turn out to be, there is no question in my mind that this is one of them. In the past I've tried to separate the terms "UFO" and "flying saucer," in the belief that the latter colors the issue too much in favor of the ET hypothesis. I still don't know who's piloting these things, and I won't paint myself into a corner. But seeing is believing, folks. FLYING SAUCERS ARE REAL! Timmerman had supplied Haines with an audiotape which contained a translation of the Japanese, synchronized with the video. If you started them both at the same time, you were able to hear the Japanese in the background with a translator in the foreground. The video itself was followed by a news(?) interview with the family. The family seemed quite the opposite of Ed Walters or Billy Meier. Somewhat non-descript, staid, uncomfortable on camera, no-nonsense, no claims of strange conversations in foreign languages, no buzzing in the head, no exchanges of philosophical wisdom. All in all, the video seems a ufologists' dream. It is, quite simply, the most significant and convincing piece of photographic evidence I've ever seen. It is still subject to intense photo-analysis and scrutiny, and I will abide by the general concensus of the experts. However, having viewed it up close, I am very confident it will stand up. I understand that Bruce Maccabee has a copy, as does Walt Andrus. (In fact, Uncle Walt tried to show it at the Omega conference, I understand, but was stymied by failure of the video equipment. Poor Uncle Walt!) Dr. Haines said that he is not allowed to copy the video at this point. We will have to wait for CUFOS and John Timmerman to release it. However, does anyone know if this was the same video shown on CBS News a few months back? Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Kay.Schaney Subject: UFO'S ARE REAL Date: 2 Dec 89 00:54:00 GMT Jim, Frankly it makes me nervous to hear you of all people say that! Not because I don't trust your opinion, but because I DO trust your opinion! Kay Schaney -- Kay Schaney - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kay.Schaney@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Kay.Schaney Subject: RE:Stalinism Date: 2 Dec 89 00:58:00 GMT Jim, BTW, did you answer Linda Murphy'y question to you on "why this year?" I didn't catch it and was wondering the same thing, could you point me to the msg# of your reply? Thx, Kay -- Kay Schaney - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kay.Schaney@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker Subject: The State of Events Date: 1 Dec 89 22:22:00 GMT * Forwarded from "INFO.PARANET" * Originally to Ray Griffin * Forwarded by Don Ecker > sighted in area. I know of others, has anyone else picked > up on this. I believe that there is apossibility that they > may even know about paranet. Would anyone care to make a > special request and see what happens? Ray: Yaa, I have a special request. How about this for size? World Peace, or an end to world hunger, or a re-affirmation of the Constitution, or an end to the double talk, or how about just one damn good photograph? Pass that along and lets see, eh? -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven.Helmreich@nmsu.edu Subject: Social Security Date: 1 Dec 89 17:47:11 GMT I worked for the Social Security Administration from about 1975 to 1980 (low-level, district office job) and still have friends who work there, including one who now works in the Central Office as a go-fer for one of the Regional Commissioners. I think the SSA is one of the more innocuous of the Federal bureaucracies. In fact, it's not true that the SSA is "off-budget". It really should be, since it is a completely independent program, but because it's running a surplus it helps to have it in the budget to reduce the deficit. In addition, having it in budget makes the "defense" percentage look smaller. As far as I know, SSA trust funds are accounted for to a penny. The money has in the past been "borrowed" by other Federal agencies, etc., at low (almost zero) interest rates, but as for SSA itself being a "Beast" of some sort, I think it highly improbable. In addition, SSNs are given only to people who work in the United States. No foreign national who doesn't work in the US needs or has one. It could not be the basis for a world-wide system of identification. Finally, as far as I know, SSA has no *direct* ties to people's bank accounts and other assets. The District Offices routinely receive notices from all the Funeral Homes in their service areas giving the name and SSN (if known) of the deceased that are handled by the FH. (At least, this was the case in 1980. There was at that time a $255 Death Benefit that was payable in some cases to a Funeral Home for unpaid burial expenses--if there was no surviving spouse. That benefit has been mostly phased out, so FH directors no longer have the same vested interest in letting SSA know about recent deaths.) Some offices, too, used to routinely look through the obituaries in the local newspaper. I'm sure banks, etc., might well do the same, if only to protect themselves. I think that banks could well be liable if illegal transactions are made to an account after the owner's death. I will admit, tho, that an erroneous notification of death could well mess up someone's account. Since such action is supposed to be taken only on the basis of convincing evidence (death certificate, notice from FH, etc.), it is rather difficult to reverse the action. But even if the person's check were being deposited directly into a checking account, as far as I know, the bank is not notified of the reason that the SSA check is no longer arriving. Stephen Helmreich (shelmrei@nmsu.edu) -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Chalmers@violet.berkeley.edu Subject: comments Date: 1 Dec 89 23:02:49 GMT Re implant: The photochromic glass used at least initially in automatically darkening/fading sunglasses contained silver as the photoactive element. Such lenses are also curved. The surface of a fragment might etch if implanted in the body or have gotten etched before implantation and thus appear "honeycombed." If somebody stepped or fell on an old pair of such sunglasses, the result might be similar to the reported "implant." A hoax is not impossible Someone should contact Corning Glass or whoever manufactures photochromic glass and get more information about its composition, and stabilty. Byron Smith: the creatures you describe sound like the popular idea of "Djinns." Are there any Muslims on paranet or does anybody know any to talk to. I'd like to get a non-Judeo-X'ian perspective for once. The" designing force" controlling the shapes of life forms is Evolution which is driven by Natural Selection, Mutation and Genetic Drift. The interactions between cells are due to the chemical properties of their surfaces, i.e. various carbohydrate groups attached to proteins and protein receptor molecules. This is a very active research area as it pertains to embryonic development and Cancer. The physical force mediating these interactions is the Electromagnetic one. Granted that mass/energy can neither be created nor destroyed, nothing guarantees that the energetic or material patterns survive the transformations. The evidence strongly suggests that they don't, else perpetual motion machines would be possible. Entropy accumulates in any closed system such as the Universe. Living objects and the earth's biosphere are open systems thermodynamically, so local patterning or order arises spontaneously. Can anyone provide me with any references to articles in reviewed journals on Kirlian photography or "auras"? The only one I've seen was in Science during the 1970's and it showed that KP's were corona discharges and that the patterns were a function of surface roughness, moisture, finger pressure, electrical field strength, etc. - John Chalmers -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Kay.Schaney Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze/circles Date: 2 Dec 89 22:12:00 GMT Mike, RE: >I got a call from a source in Gulf Breeze the other day and he >related to me that there have been numerous sonic-type booms being >heard in the area. Residents have become very concerned and the local >media has been covering the story. However, a 7'8" circular-swirl- >type indentation was recently discovered in Gulf Breeze. My source >indicates that there appears to be no connection to the swirl and the >booms, however strange they both appear to be. What is so strange about sonic booms? Eglin AFB, the largest Air Force base in the world, is within 50 miles of Gulf Breeze. Right across the bay from Gulf Breeze is The Naval Air Training Station, Pensacola, also the largest in the USA, there is an aircraft carrier stationed there for practice. This would mean that Gulf Breeze is within seconds, by jet, of either. My husband, who grew up in Pensacola, says "When I lived there (Warrington) houses would shake on a fairly regular basis, since sonic booms are not an uncommon phenomena, when I asked him why then would the people of Gulf Breeze think it unusual, he said maybe because it is one of the wealthier communities of the area, it is probably usually avoided. (Who knows, with all the problems the Navy has been having recently, maybe they don't know any better than to fly over "that community", or maybe they are having a little fun, considering all the media attention Gulf Breeze has been getting.) As for the Saw Grass, maybe the ol boys are out doing doughnuts in their all terrain vehicles. Kay -- Kay Schaney - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kay.Schaney@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Kay.Schaney Subject: Re: The Secret Govt.. Date: 2 Dec 89 22:17:00 GMT >Maybe nothing unusual by >itself but *he* claims that *the computer* is being programmed >to keep track of people world wide by whatever means available >electronically whether via satellite,fax,phone or whatever. -His- claim also is that the computer is known as THE BEAST. This is OLD news, the born agains have been saying this for years. Everytime you use a bankcard.... Everytime you use a charge card.... Every time you use the PHONE.... "THEY KNOW" And for all those who think it is safe to just wipe your disks, I've heard that "certain agencies" can read info from a disk down to six levels, in other words you can delete and write over files six times, and "THEY" can still read what's there. Hey, they don't call them "THEY" for nothing. See Skeptical Inquirer Vol XII No. 4 / Summer 1988 for a great article on the "The Bar-Code Beast" by Michael Keith. That article also mentions two other books for "666-aphobes"; "When Your Money Fails" by Mary Stewart "Satan's Mark Exposed" by Salem Kilbran To add my own suggested reading for paranoia buffs, I might suggest; "Electronic Nightmare, The Home Communications Set and Your Personal Freedom" by John Wicklein. And for those paranoia, 666-Aphobe, UFO Buffs; A novel by Michael Redfinn called "BEING", where upstanding citizens are being abducted by UFO's, (GASP) and THEN they uncover the greatest deception the Earth has ever seen.... the "Being" is none other than that ole Arch-enemy to Earth, SATAN and his league of deamons! (Wait a minute, is Micheal Redfinn a nom de plume for Mr. Lear?) And of course any novel by W.A. Harbinson, start with "Genesis", the epic novel of the worlds most fearsome secret, then read "Revelation", He has come, now the world will know the truth and terror ... I'm looking forward to this new book Zajak, I'm always interested in adding to my library. Sweet dreams ya'll, and charge, charge, charge, Kay -- Kay Schaney - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kay.Schaney@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f20.n3607.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jerry.Woody Subject: It had to happen... Date: 2 Dec 89 04:38:00 GMT On the lighter side of the Ufo question: Aircel Comics recently announced a new comic called "The Men In Black". The ad featured 2 men dressed in black suits (naturally) with a variety of assault weopons. At the top is the banner... "SEEN ANY UFO'S LATELY?". This should really encourage potential young Ufologists to enter the field (ahem). The creator/write of it is Lowell Cunningham... Anybody ever heard of him? JW -- Jerry Woody - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jerry.Woody@f20.n3607.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Clark.Matthews Subject: Re: Lazar And His Amazing Saucers Date: 3 Dec 89 05:22:00 GMT > 3) After reading on the subject, I am inclined to believe > that the spiritual/supernatural/extradimensional aspect is > the most significant. I could go into this, but let me > just say that I too have been reading Dimensions, and the > ideas presented there make more sense than anything else I > have seen on the subject. This story does not fit the scenario. > Instead it fits into a neat materialistic mold which would > allow the military to control the phenomena by purely > physical means. This does not mean it is necessarily > bogus, it just makes me suspicious. It is too neat; too easy > and pat. Hi Steve. Well, like you I have been quite taken with Dr. Vallee's hypothesis in _Dimensions_. But let's not get carried away here... A few days back, pre-Crash (Alpha's hard disk, not the markets) I wrote a semi-tongue-in-cheek riposte to someone about how unimportant it is who or what builds and operates the UFOs we see, hear of, and investigate. Whether they are built & operated by elves, pixies, leprechauns, Titans, Nordics or whatever is not the point. The point (to my mind, anyway) is that they print on radar, leave leave dents in the ground when they land, occasionally scorch things and let people get close enough to touch them -- even get inside. They are material things. Whether they come from Zeta II, a parallel universe or Middle Earth, they are physical objects. Even though these devices and their makers/masters may seem to us as present-day astronauts must appear to the most primitive Bushmen, I really don't allow myself to doubt their physical existence or impute anything supernatural or religious to them. I do not think Dr. Vallee does either -- as least as far as I read his book. It may be that the U.S. has some of these things somewhere and has discovered that they are as real -- yet ephemeral -- as a leprechaun's pot 'o gold. I.e.: They've got them, but they can't DO anything with them. Nevertheless they could exist. And Lazar may be telling the truth. If your doubts center around Lazar's still being alive -- in other words, why was he allowed to "leak & live". Well, people like Lazar are double-edged swords. Nothing gets public attention faster than an untimely death. Especially if it's the death of someone who's been telling a story. It looks like Cooper's theories (which coincide with Lazar's revalations) may stem from Lazar himself. So if Lazar is authentic -- if his references check -- then the Cooper sideshow may be just that. A sideshow, and not the main event. Anyway, until Lazar is discredited -- or discredits himself -- I'm definitely prepared to stay with this one. Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base? Date: 2 Dec 89 05:28:00 GMT >etc.? I know these items have already been asked for and >it would be great >if he could deliver. T'would be great if he WOULD deliver. As you say, he has already been asked, and I understand that he has refused, especially in regard to the pay stubs. By the way, Ed, welcome to the echo! -- Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Re: comments Date: 3 Dec 89 08:35:00 GMT >Can anyone provide me with any references to articles >in reviewed journals on Kirlian photography or "auras"? Skeptical Inquirer did an article about 2 years ago (I wish they published a subject index). Results were pretty much the same as your "Science" citation. Possibly even the same authors. I was very impressed with the fact that No. 2 lead pencils have "auras." I wonder if a pencil's aura changes with its mood? Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Todd.Starcher Subject: Re: The Fall of Stalinism Date: 2 Dec 89 03:55:00 GMT ->I'd like to think Gorbachev is just a real swell guy, and ->apparently Dick Cheney thinks the same thing. But my gosh, ->it was all so *easy*. Everyone just fell in place. Does ->Gorbachev really have that much sway? You're right...it is just *to easy*. Ya wanna know why? The Ruskies are in more financial trouble now than ever b4. They need our money. They want our banks to loan them money. They want us to give them a certain financial status that will allow them to default on our r loans if they want. And the S & L industry has nothing to fear. If they DO default, then the government, the tax-payers will bail them out. West Germany and some other European countries have already loaned out all kinds of money. (and they'll never get it all back IMO). The wall has fallen in Berlin. Ya know what that means? An influx of money and technology from the west. You're right though, Gorby DOES seem really nice...he's quite a con-artist. In fact, in a poll (I think it was taken in Sweden) the majority of the people thought that Gorby had done more for peace between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R than Bush had. Possibly even true...but you have to look at his motives. They are less than pure. And as long as I'm on the subject, I don't know why we actually pulled some of our forces OUT of Europe...I know that the Soviets did the same, but they outnumber (sp.?) our forces there something like 3 to 1. Well, see ya. ...Todd -- Todd Starcher - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Todd.Starcher@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Todd.Starcher Subject: Re: The Closest Encounter Date: 2 Dec 89 04:01:00 GMT -> > something WAS in there. ->Something did appear to be in the house, her and her ->husband were outside as he was the one who saw the objects ->in the sky and called her to come out and see them. ->What ever "it" was, did not appear to be natural either. ->It didn't appear as a "man walking" at all, but almost ->floated across the window. ->I have considered the wind blowing something inside the ->house, a curtain or something, that might have appeard to ->look that way when viewed through the camera lens. Ya wanna know what it kinda looked like to me? Something like a mutated Opus (Bloom County). To me it appeared to have a beak and even appeared to have small legs. To me it also appeared to WALK across the window sill. I DO think it's a little ify connecting this with the UFOs...I guess anything's possible, though. ...Todd -- Todd Starcher - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Todd.Starcher@paranet.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************