Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 121 Friday, January 5th 1990 Today's Topics: Re: elders Re: Lazar/Area51 intelligence bibliography For Mark Jose (and others) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Delton Subject: Re: elders Date: 3 Jan 90 17:16:00 GMT Once again it appears you are unwilling to follow thru on your claims. You specifically bemoaned the fact that no one was willing to take you up on your offer but now that someone has you are trying to confuse the issue with all sorts of nonsense having nothing to do with your previous offer and my acceptance of same. I don't care if you are or are not grandstanding, I don't care whether you have convinced someone in Hoboken that you can do "it", I don't care whether you accept skeptics or not, I am not worried about the others that are "dealing with their mistakes", you can let me worry about that. Your concern over the others on this echo is laudable but I'm sure that they would not be too concerned about this being here or on the predictions echo; I'm not concerned over what some reporter has done or said about you in the past. The only thing that is germane is that you consistently hold yourself out as having some "power" and just as consistently raise objections every time you are taken up on your offer in a forum where you are required to "put up or shut up". I will assume that you are admitting that you don't have the abilities that you claim since you are so obviouly incapable of demonstrating same in anything but the most ambiguous of situations to credulous observers. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith Subject: Re: Lazar/Area51 Date: 3 Jan 90 14:33:00 GMT In a message to Bryon Smith <12-31-89 00:14> Don Allen wrote: DA> What category would you rate those aliens at Groom DA> Lake/Area 51?? I say they are just like you said, ... DA> Vile,disgusting,perverted creatures are they.... The "space brothers" or "Elders" as some call them have no need of our underground bases or any need to deceive us therefore I believe the ones the government have been dealing with do not have our best intentions in mind. I could just imagine how the government would react if the "Elders" came to pay them a visit, they would no doubt try to negotiate some kind of deal with them for us. Consider their position as guardians over the country in the military sense of the term. They would take their usual route of keeping all the secrets and distorting all the facts and keep the public in the dark as usual. The "Elders" must know this and because of it they would not be likely to do business with our military "minds." This leaves us with a "one sided" situation which isn't exactly to our advantage. Naturally the "Elders" are aware of the situation and no doubt have something in mind in order to reach the public at large. Perhaps their "visitations" are a part of their plan to contact certain people for some reason. I don't like the idea of "preaching" "fear" though because of the "gray's," that's something that could be used against us. I do believe there is hope in enlightenment and I do believe we have a powerful ally who isn't to far away. ...Bryon -- Bryon Smith - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bryon.Smith@p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithr@tolkien.wv.tek.com Subject: intelligence bibliography Date: 5 Jan 90 00:17:36 GMT Here's my current list of intelligence establishment and related books. If you have any favorites and/or significant ones, please post them or email me if you can get through. I have not put a lot of time and effort into this area, so I would appreciate your thoughts. I am especially interested in books/literature that lay out and analyze exact methods of disinformation. Glick's book details some of this. I saw a reference in a recent issue of UFO magazine to a to-be-published book about disinformation tactics used south of our border. This should be good. Bob Oechsler delivered a thought provoking talk at the 1989 MUFON conference about the possible involvement of corporate America in a UFO coverup. Coverups and conspiracies involve cooperation at some level of a number of people. To see if this was even possible, I decided to look into the "ruling elite" literature. You will find some books here about that. I think it is possible judging from these books. What is surprising (to me anyway) is how ruling elite folks really do get around to actually meeting and knowing each other. They are members of the same foundations, corporate boards, non-profit institutions, government organizations, think tanks, etc. I think a reasonable case can be made for about 1000 people in America setting our basic course as a nation. (Policy, like Johnson's "war on poverty", is developed in the think tanks, debated by Congress and corporate America -- through the Council on Foreign Relations, etc. -- and then either adopted or rejected. The UFO situation has probably been discussed in an on again, off again fashion over the years in this forum within a very restricted, varying group.) The main variable in the group of 1000 is how many of these people are actually working for the federal government at any given time. The elected and appointed Feds are relatively visible. The corporate remainder -- the vast majority -- are relatively invisible, to the general public anyway. The fact of the interconnections among these top 1000 or so people isn't generally publicized, but, as Domhoff, Silk, and Dye show, it is not really hard to get the information on them. Any thoughts about this? Agee, Philip. Inside the Company: CIA Diary. New York: Stonehill, 1975. 639pp. ISBN 0-88373-028-6 Bamford, James. The Puzzle Palace: A Report on America's Most Secret Agency. Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1982. 465pp. ISBN 0-395-31286-8 Becket, Henry S. A. The Dictionary of Espionage: Spookspeak into English. New York: Dell, 1986. 220pp. ISBN 0-440-11955-3 Blackstock, Nelson. Cointelpro: The FBI's Secret War on Political Freedom. New York: The Anchor Foundation, 1988. 190pp. ISBN 0-937091-04-9 Bowart, Walter H. Operation Mind Control. New York: Dell, 1978. 317pp. ISBN 0-440- 16755-8 Buitrago, Ann Mari and Leon Andrew Immerman. Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been in the FBI Files? How to Secure and Interpret Your FBI Files. New York: Grove Press, 1981. 227pp. ISBN 0-8021-4295-8 Burrows, William E. Deep Black: Space Espionage and National Security. New York: Random House, 1986. 401pp. ISBN 0-394-54124-3 Burton, Bob. Top Secret: A Clandestine Operator's Glossary of Terms. New York: Berkley, 1987. 179pp. ISBN 0-425-10047-2 Cowan, Paul, Nick Egleson, and Nat Hentoff. State Secrets: Police Surveillance in America. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1974. 333pp. ISBN 0-03-001031-4 Many FBI documents included. Domhoff, G. William. Who Rules America Now? New York: Simon & Schuster, 1983. 230pp. ISBN 0-671-62235-8 Domhoff, G. William. Who Rules America? Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, 1967. 184pp. LC 67-25926 Donner, Frank J. The Age of Surveillance: The Aims and Methods of America's Political Intelligence System. New York: Random House (Vintage), 1981. 552pp. ISBN 0-394-74771-2 Dorson, Norman and Stephen Gillers (eds.). None of Your Business: Government Secrecy in America. New York: Penguin Books, 1975. 362pp. Dye, Thomas R. Who's Running America? Institutional Leadership in the United States. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, 1976. 222pp. ISBN 0-13-958389-0 Ebon, Martin. Psychic Warfare: Threat or Illusion? New York: McGraw-Hill, 1983. 282pp. ISBN 0-07-018860-2 Glick, Brian. War at Home: Covert Action Against U.S. Activists and What We Can Do About It. Boston, MA: South End Press, 1989. 92pp. ISBN 0-89608-349-7 Halperin, Morton H. et al. The Lawless State: The Crimes of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies. New York: Penguin, 1976. 328pp. ISBN 0-14-004386-1 Herman, Edward S. and Noam Chomsky. Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media. New York: Pantheon, 1988. 412pp. ISBN 0-679-72034-0 Hougan, Jim. Spooks: The Haunting of America -- The Private Use of Secret Agents. New York: Bantam, 1978. 481pp. ISBN 0-553-13960-6 Johnson, Loch K. A Season of Inquiry: Congress and Intelligence. Chicago: Dorsey, 1988. 317pp. ISBN 0-256-06320-6 Kahn, David. The Codebreakers: The Story of Secret Writing. New York: Macmillan, 1967. 1164pp. LC 63-16109 Leary, William M. The Central Intelligence Agency: History and Documents. University (?), AL: University of Alabama Press, 1984. 190pp. ISBN 0-8173-0219-0 Lee, Martin A. and Bruce Shlain. Acid Dreams: The CIA, LSD, and the Sixties Rebellion. New York: Grove Press, 1985. 343pp. ISBN 0-394-62081-X Lewin, Leonard C. Report From Iron Mountain on the Possibility and Desirability of Peace. New York: Dell, 1967. 109pp. "Leaked" think tank document from the early 1960s. Lundberg, Ferdinand. The Rich and the Super-Rich: A Study in the Power of Money Today. New York: Lyle Stuart, 1968. 812pp. LC 67-10015 Macy, Christy and Susan Kaplan. Documents. New York: Penguin, 1980. 400pp. ISBN 0-14-00.4993-2 Compiled by Center for National Security Studies. Marchetti, Victor and John D. Marks. The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence. New York: Dell, 1974. 397pp. Version with some censored words restored. Marks, John. The Search for the "Manchurian Candidate". New York: Dell, 1979. 264pp. ISBN 0-440-20137-3 Marshall, Jonathon, and Peter Dale Scott and Jane Hunter. The Iran Contra Connection: Secret Teams and Covert Operations in the Reagan Era. Boston, MA: South End Press, 1987. 313pp. ISBN 0-89708-291-1 McRae, Ronald M. Mind Wars: The True Story of Government Research into the Military Potential of Psychic Weapons. New York: St. Martin's Press, 1984. 155pp. ISBN 0-312- 65231-3 Morgan, Richard E. Domestic Intelligence: Monitoring Dissent in America. Austin, TX: University of Texas Press, 1980. 194pp. ISBN 0-292-76463-4 Parenti, Michael. Democracy for the Few. New York: St. Martin's Press, 1988. 337pp. ISBN 0-312-19366-1 Fifth ed. Powers, Thomas. The Man Who Kept the Secrets: Richard Helms and the CIA. New York: Pocket Books, 1979. 508pp. ISBN 0-671-83654-4 Prouty, L. Fletcher. The Secret Team: The CIA and Its Allies in Control of the World. New York: Ballantine, 1973. 556pp. ISBN 345-23776-5-195 Quirk, John Patrick, and David Atlee Phillips, Ray Cline, W. Pforzheimer. The Central Intelligence Agency: A Photographic History. Guilford, CN: Foreign Intelligence Press, 1986. 256pp. ISBN 0-89568-500-0 This is an unofficial book published by CIA sympathizers and former officers. Ranelagh, John. The Agency: The Rise and Decline of the CIA. New York: Simon and Scchuster, 1986. 847pp. ISBN 0-671-44318-6 Richelson, Jeffery T. The U.S. Intelligence Community. Cambridge, MA: Ballinger , 1989. 483pp. ISBN 0-88730-245-9 Second Edition. Silk, Leonard and Mark Silk. The American Establishment. New York: Avon, 1980. 351pp. ISBN 0-380-56556-0 Simpson, Christopher. Blowback: America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Effects on the Cold War. New York: Macmillan, 1988. 398pp. ISBN 0-02-044995-X Stockwell, John. In Search of Enemies: A CIA Story. New York: Norton, 1978. 285pp. ISBN 0-393-05705-4 Van der Aart, Dick. Aerial Espionage: Secret Intelligence Flights by East and West. New York: Arco/Prentice Hall, 1986. 167pp. ISBN 0-671-61952-7 Original by Dutch author. Volkman, Ernest and Blaine Baggett. Secret Intelligence. New York: Doubleday, 1989. 266pp. ISBN 0-385-24590-4 Watkins, Leslie and David Ambrose. Alternative 3. London: Sphere Books, 1978. 239pp. Adapted from a British TV program. (Acknowledged by Watkins to be a hoax.) White, John, ed. Psychic Warfare: Fact or Fiction? Wellingborough, Northamptonshire: Aquarian Press, 1988. 222pp. ISBN 0-85030-644-2 Winks, Robin W. Cloak & Gown: Scholars in the Secret War, 1939-1961. New York: Morrow, 1987. 607pp. ISBN 0-688-08665-9 Wise, David. The Politics of Lying: Government Deception, Secrecy, and Power. New York: Vintage Books, 1973. 614pp. ISBN 0-394-71989-1 Yarmolinsky, Adam. The Military Establishment: Its Impact on American Society. New York: Harper & Row, 1971. 434pp. LC 73-127839 Sponsored by the Twentieth Century Fund. Yost, Graham. Spy-Tech. New York: Facts-on-File, 1985. 281pp. ISBN 0-8160-1115-X -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithr@tolkien.wv.tek.com Subject: For Mark Jose (and others) Date: 5 Jan 90 00:18:02 GMT ---------- -+ 1. There was a matron from a Gippsland (a geographical region of -+ South-Eastern Victoria, Aust.) hospital who was on one of the highways I haven't heard of this one. -+ -+ 2. There was a multiple sighting of ufo(s) in Boianai, New Guinea. -+ This sighting involved an Anglican priest and various natives that -+ were at the mission. It lasted quite a while with the "aliens" -+ actually coming out and standing on top of their crafts. Good discussions of the Boianai, New Guinea case are found in the following books: Sachs, Margaret. The UFO Encyclopedia. New York: Putnam (A Perigee Book), 1980. 408pp. ISBN 399-50454-0 pbk. Story, Ronald, ed. The Encyclopedia of UFOs. Garden City, NY: Doubleday (Dolphin Books), 1980. 440pp. ISBN 0-385-11681-0. Hynek, J. Allen and Jacques Vallee. The Edge of Reality: A Progress Report on Unidentified Flying Objects. Chicago: Henry Regnery Company, 1975. 301pp. ISBN 0-8092-8150-3. Hynek, J. Allen. The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry. New York: Ballantine Books, 1972. 309pp. ISBN 345-23953-9-150. Klass, Philip J. UFOs Explained. New York: Random House (Vintage Books), 1976. 438pp. ISBN 0-394-72106-3. -+ 3. An encounter occurred between a pilot flying from Canberra (Aust's -+ Capital) to Nowra (coastal town of New South Wales). The pilot was -+ passing over Goulburn when two "objects" approached him. These were -+ "identified" as unidentified objects. He informed the Nowra radar -+ operator who also saw them. He stated that they approached the -+ aircraft then stayed with it before going north and disappearing off -+ the screen in seconds. I haven't heard of this one unless you're referring to the famous Valentich disappearance -- it doesn't sound like it though. If so, see: Sachs and Story above. Haines, Richard F. Melbourne Episode: Case Study of a Missing Pilot. Los Altos, CA: L. D. A. 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