Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 126 Tuesday, January 16th 1990 Today's Topics: Goodman/Lazar Comments 12/20/89 Re: Lazar/Area51 Re: Lazar/Area51 cows Re: Interbreeding cows Re: Lazar/Area51 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Goodman/Lazar Comments 12/20/89 Date: 15 Jan 90 08:19:00 GMT DATE OF UPLOAD: January 15, 1990 ORIGIN OF UPLOAD: Las Vegas, Nevada CONTRIBUTED BY: Robert B. Klinn ======================================================== (C) Copyright 1989 ParaNet Information Service All Rights Reserved unless copyrighted by Author. THIS FILE WAS PREPARED BY PARANET ALPHA -- PARANET INFORMATION SERVICE 1-303-232-6115 9600 BAUD 1-303-232-8303 VOICE DENVER, COLORADO NOTE: THESE FILES ARE NOT FOR REDISTRIBUTION OUTSIDE OF THE PARANET INFORMATION SERVICE NETWORK ======================================================== Three Lazar Points Unrecalled Robert Lazar/Billy Goodman 12/20/89/KVEG-AM Radio 840, Las Vegas 1. The Resonant Frequency of the Gravity Wave Mark: I understand there's an antenna section in this device; what is the resonant frequency that that operates at? Lazar: The resonant frequency of the gravity wave I do know, but I don't know it off hand; I just can't remember it. Mark: Can you give me a ballpark, like 2,000 kilohertz? Lazar: I really don't remember. It's a really odd frequency. Mark: Is it measured in kilohertz or gigahertz or megahertz? Lazar: I really don't remember. 2. The Names Used at S-4 for the Low- and High-Speed Modes of Spacecraft Travel Caller: Using the technology that's being used, the craft are very agile, aren't they? Lazar: Oh yes, very, in one specific mode of travel. Caller: In one direction at a time? Lazar: No. There's two modes of travel. There's a low-speed mode and a high-speed mode. I don't remember what they called them; they had a specific name for them. Burt: You were talking about the low- and high-speed modes and the control factors in there. Can you describe those modes and what the ship looks like each time it is going through those modes? Lazar: The low-speed mode -- and I REALLY wish I could remember what they call these, but I can't, as I can't remember the frequency of the wave -- The low-speed mode: The craft is very vulnerable; it bobs around. And it's sitting on a weak gravitational field, sitting on three gravity waves. And it just bounces around. And it can focus the waves behind it and keep falling forward and hobble around at low speed. The second mode: They increase the amplitude of the field, and the craft begins to lift, and it performs a ROLL maneuver: it begins to turn, roll, begins to turn over. As it begins to leave the earth's gravitational field, they point the bottom of the craft at the DESTINATION. This is the second mode of travel, where they converge the three gravity amplifiers -- FOCUS them -- on a point that they want to go to. Then they bring them up to full power, and this is where the tremendous time-space distortion takes place, and that whips them right to that point. 3. The Atomic Weight of Alien Element 115 Caller: What is the atomic weight of 115? Lazar: I hate even to guess. I know it because we've written it down because we've calculated it, but I really don't remember. Caller: Can you give us a ballpark? Lazar: No, 'cause I'd be wrong! Just like if I gave a ballpark on the gravitational wave frequency -- and that's really bugging the hell out of me. There were three things, as a matter of fact, that for some reason I've developed a mental block on. I'll have to call Billy, and then he can announce it on the air. I'll just call him and then he can relay it to everyone. ================================================================= NOMEM.LAZ -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith Subject: Re: Lazar/Area51 Date: 14 Jan 90 17:27:00 GMT In a message to Bryon Smith <01-13-90 17:04> T.s. Bennett wrote: TB> You are starting to sound like a guy who filled these TB> columns with talk of Nephilim whatever they are, so please TB> load it somewhere else. Let me tell you something Mr T.S. I have been watching you to and I happen to know you don't own this echo. Myself and certain others are doing some research here and if you would like to help that's all well and good but if not then you can just complain to someone else about it. That remark was totally uncalled for and is not a statement I would expect to hear from someone who was truly seeking the answers. I say the "aliens" were here back then, and even before then, and I say they gave us certain evidence and I am looking for that evidence. If I am able to locate that evidence then why is that a threat to you ? I say that humans and "aliens" have interacted in the past in a certain type of communications or "communion," as well as to have fought battles of different types over the centuries, some of which were recorded as "supernatural" warefare such as the battle of Jerico. I say "aliens" or "fallen angels" are the same beings and have been involved in our religions and cultures over many many years. I say they are also involved in certain connections with certain upper government officials (just as you have been indicating), but I don't think you are aware of their intentions or their natures. Perhaps if you continue to search you will be able to contribute to the efforts of those involved in seeking the truth concerning the UFO phenomena, but you have an attitude problem you need to consider & get out of the way as it's blocking your perception, and making a stink in the echos. I am quite willing to allow you to continue your conversations and research (without throwning mud at you) and am not offended by your line of conversations or research, but will admit I have observed some of your past messages that I did find distasteful because of the "tone" and uncalled for remarks to fellow researchers similar to the one you just made to me. That is not helpful and has the tone of someone who has something to prove, rather than being concerned about the truth. I was with ParaNet, before it was a Network, ask Jim Speiser if you have doubts about that, and I have been working with Mike Corbin withen the ParaNet Network every since he took charge, and I don't normally have problems with the users on here. The last one I had a problem with though was Bill Cooper and I kicked him off ParaNet TAU and in case you had not noticed he isn't on ParaNet any more either. He didn't actually get kicked off for the information he was posting, though that should have been enough, but he got kicked off because he had a bad attitude and was constantly offending the good users and researchers who were trying to get some useful answers to the questions. Who is this person you mentioned who had talked about the Nephilim in the past, I would like to chat with him. It's obvious you don't even know what they are, but perhaps you should do a bit of research on them. Wouldn't you be a bit surprised if you discovered they were descendants of the union of the "son's of God with the daughters of men ?" If they are then just how would that affect our concept of these "aliens" the government is said to be dealing with ? Wouldn't that give some clues as to their nature and their intentions ? To many questions have been asked for to long that have not been given proper answers. If the questions we are asking arn't giving us the right answers then perhaps we need to ask different questions, and that's just what I'm doing. Have you ever had a first hand, up close observation of a giant disk ? I have and believe me it's not something you would soon forget. I have talked with others who have had close up sightings, I have driven a good number of miles and spent a good deal of money just to talk with these people, who I am staying in touch with. I have compiled enough information to indicate to me the very things I have mentioned that have brought me into the research of the "giants" of days of old, and I will continue until I prove it one way or the other. If you can't or won't help us with this line of research I would thank you to not stand in the way, and also not to create a bad atmosphere in the echos. ...Bryon -- Bryon Smith - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bryon.Smith@p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith Subject: Re: Lazar/Area51 Date: 14 Jan 90 17:27:00 GMT In a message to Bryon Smith <01-13-90 17:04> T.s. Bennett wrote: TB> You are starting to sound like a guy who filled these TB> columns with talk of Nephilim whatever they are, so please TB> load it somewhere else. Let me tell you something Mr T.S. I have been watching you to and I happen to know you don't own this echo. Myself and certain others are doing some research here and if you would like to help that's all well and good but if not then you can just complain to someone else about it. That remark was totally uncalled for and is not a statement I would expect to hear from someone who was truly seeking the answers. I say the "aliens" were here back then, and even before then, and I say they gave us certain evidence and I am looking for that evidence. If I am able to locate that evidence then why is that a threat to you ? I say that humans and "aliens" have interacted in the past in a certain type of communications or "communion," as well as to have fought battles of different types over the centuries, some of which were recorded as "supernatural" warefare such as the battle of Jerico. I say "aliens" or "fallen angels" are the same beings and have been involved in our religions and cultures over many many years. I say they are also involved in certain connections with certain upper government officials (just as you have been indicating), but I don't think you are aware of their intentions or their natures. Perhaps if you continue to search you will be able to contribute to the efforts of those involved in seeking the truth concerning the UFO phenomena, but you have an attitude problem you need to consider & get out of the way as it's blocking your perception, and making a stink in the echos. I am quite willing to allow you to continue your conversations and research (without throwning mud at you) and am not offended by your line of conversations or research, but will admit I have observed some of your past messages that I did find distasteful because of the "tone" and uncalled for remarks to fellow researchers similar to the one you just made to me. That is not helpful and has the tone of someone who has something to prove, rather than being concerned about the truth. I was with ParaNet, before it was a Network, ask Jim Speiser if you have doubts about that, and I have been working with Mike Corbin withen the ParaNet Network every since he took charge, and I don't normally have problems with the users on here. The last one I had a problem with though was Bill Cooper and I kicked him off ParaNet TAU and in case you had not noticed he isn't on ParaNet any more either. He didn't actually get kicked off for the information he was posting, though that should have been enough, but he got kicked off because he had a bad attitude and was constantly offending the good users and researchers who were trying to get some useful answers to the questions. Who is this person you mentioned who had talked about the Nephilim in the past, I would like to chat with him. It's obvious you don't even know what they are, but perhaps you should do a bit of research on them. Wouldn't you be a bit surprised if you discovered they were descendants of the union of the "son's of God with the daughters of men ?" If they are then just how would that affect our concept of these "aliens" the government is said to be dealing with ? Wouldn't that give some clues as to their nature and their intentions ? To many questions have been asked for to long that have not been given proper answers. If the questions we are asking arn't giving us the right answers then perhaps we need to ask different questions, and that's just what I'm doing. Have you ever had a first hand, up close observation of a giant disk ? I have and believe me it's not something you would soon forget. I have talked with others who have had close up sightings, I have driven a good number of miles and spent a good deal of money just to talk with these people, who I am staying in touch with. I have compiled enough information to indicate to me the very things I have mentioned that have brought me into the research of the "giants" of days of old, and I will continue until I prove it one way or the other. If you can't or won't help us with this line of research I would thank you to not stand in the way, and also not to create a bad atmosphere in the echos. ...Bryon -- Bryon Smith - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bryon.Smith@p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith Subject: cows Date: 14 Jan 90 17:54:00 GMT In a message to All <01-12-90 21:19> infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com wrote: in> From: "MCCREA, SAM" in> I have seen several references to cattle mutilations in in> various postings in> on paranet. Have these mutilations occurred near areas in> where UFO's have in> been sited? Are the mutilations similar? Are parts of the in> cattle missing I researched a mutilation in MO not long ago and the Sheriff said the usual parts of the cow was missing. He said there were no tracks in the field near the carcass, & no one had entered through the gate which was also locked with a chain. He said it was the strangest thing he had ever seen and he has no answers for it. I asked him if there had been any reports of UFO's or strange lights in the sky around the time the cow was found and he said there had been two reports and he gave me their names. Aprox. two weeks before this cow was found there were two reports of strange lights in the sky. I called the witnesses and talked with them. One man saw a bright white light come out of the sky and fly low across a field, he pulled off the road and watched until the light just "vanished" from view. The other witness saw a bright orange light come down out of the sky across a highway and then disappear behind a hill. He called and reported it, and said he thought it might have been an aircraft crashing in a field nearby. The Sheriff and a highway patrol officer both went to check the area and said they found nothing unusual in that area. The believe the man certanly saw something that was not normal and was truly concerned about it otherwise he would not have called it in. About two weeks after the first cow was found a calf's head was found on a hillside. The sheriff checked into it and he said it looked as if the head had been dropped from the sky as there was no foot prints near it. He said it was strange the way it had been found like that but he had no answers for it. Perhaps it had been "thrown" there by someone from a distance, who knows, but he was willing to leave it at that and didn't want to talk much more about it. He told a bit about a man who had been found mutilated in that area not long before the first cow was found, and had his hands cut off and certain other parts, and as strange as it had been they believed it had been done by someone and not "aliens or UFOs" because of the type of cuts that were found on the body. But the cows were different. Linda Howe has this case in her files and she believes the cows were the results of the "E.T.s" and not done by man. She said she took samples of the hide at the point it had been cut and it was exactly like some she had researched in the past. She said it had a hard plastic feel to it and looked as though it had been done by a very hot cutting tool. I have seen other reports in which UFOs were said to have been in an area where cattle mutilations had been found. ...Bryon -- Bryon Smith - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bryon.Smith@p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith Subject: Re: Interbreeding Date: 14 Jan 90 18:13:00 GMT In a message to All <01-13-90 19:08> infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com wrote: in> viable issue is another thing. The Biblical story of the in> "Son's of God" and in> the "Daughters of Men" sounds very like an intertribal in> exogamous marriage custom in> not dissimilar to those practiced today. In some areas in> women of one tribe in> marry men of another ( and vice versa) so that the children in> grow up speaking in> their mothers' language and later learn their fathers'. in> The "Giants" suggest in> that the offspring were healthy and vigorous. I am doing research on this very thing at this time and my information indicates the children were in fact "giants" and were not normal. A man named Dake has done a great deal of research on the scriptures and has included his information about these "aliens" or "fallen angels" in a book called "God's Plan for Man." He has spent his entire life researching and finding the information and evidence to prove the scriptures and has compiled information in his work that were also discovered by others involved in historical research. The giants who lived in Jerico made the men of Joshua's army look like "grasshoppers." It was evident to Joshua's men that it would take more than their army to defeat these giants. Several remarks in the bible indicate these "son's of God" were not like humans. The "son's of God" were not the product of the doings of man, otherwise they would have been refered to as the son's of man and not the son's of God. God cursed them because the spirit of God would not remain in mankind forever. This indicates again a major difference between the nature of the "sons of God" and the "sons of men," their spirits were different. There is a great deal more to it than this, and I hope to have something more to show soon, but am at a loss to locate a certain book(s) that I need. Several of us are working at it though and hope to have something to file on it soon. ...Bryon -- Bryon Smith - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bryon.Smith@p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f26.n123.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Komar Subject: cows Date: 14 Jan 90 22:10:00 GMT In a message to infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com <01-14-90 10:54> Bryon Smith wrote: BS=>in> I have seen several references to cattle mutilations in BS=>in> various postings BS=>in> on paranet. Have these mutilations occurred near areas BS=>in> where UFO's have BS=>in> been sited? Are the mutilations similar? Are parts of BS=>the BS=>in> cattle missing I've got a stack of papers from the Oregon State Police concerning the cattle mutilations around the Fort Rock/Pine Mountain areas that occurred around June '89, and the reports only cover the actual animals, anything else connected is not included such as strange lights, etc. John -- John Komar - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Komar@f26.n123.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f630.n283.z1.FIDONET.ORG!James.Nannemann Subject: Re: Lazar/Area51 Date: 13 Jan 90 16:49:15 GMT I dont really trust what ANY country's government has to say. There is just too much "dis-information" being put out. What is really weird is that if you asked the communist block countries what the U.S. military was doing, you would find out more THAT way than directly from our own government, and yet they are SUPPOSED to be on the other side of the fence. They are the ones that the intelligence community and security agencies are supposd to be protecting us from. Yet those forign powers have easier access to information than the citizenry of the US. That doesnt really seem very logical does it. Like who is the enemy? Is it US, the citizens of the USA that the security agencies consider to be the problems? It would seem so, the way that they treat us anyway. It's the same story, no matter what part of the government, or which government you try to work with. Just like the POW/MIA issue, the Soviet Union has more up to date information than what the American Government is willing to share with American citizens. The same thing applies to the UFO issue. The government seems to be more afraid of it's own constituents, than it is of forign powers. I think it is just plain stupid that they would treat us like that. What do you think? Jim Nannemann -- James Nannemann - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: James.Nannemann@f630.n283.z1.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************