Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 151 Tuesday, February 13th 1990 Today's Topics: Re: Richard Murray and Amnesty Re: Mercury Drives New Affiliates Face Re: 1940's Crash In La. Re: 1940's crash in LA. Vice President emphasizes White House space commitment (Forwarded) Re:ignorance!! Re: Richard Murray & Congressional Amnesty Skeptics KNOWLEDGE OF ALIENS CIRCLES Re: Skeptomania is cool Strange Rings in Britain Re: Philadelphia Experiment Cows Re: Mars Face Re: Skeptomania is cool Greenhouse Effect Re: Mars Face The Mundrabilla-Nullarbor Document CIRCLES - News from UFORA OZTRAIN Re: Richard Murray and Amnesty Re: The Co. & Drugs Update-Human Mutes Re: Greenhouse Effect Interesting names ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gross@dg-rtp.dg.com (Gene Gross) Subject: Re: Richard Murray and Amnesty Date: 12 Feb 90 21:10:59 GMT ->From: sparta!sun!root (esanborn) ->Subject: Richard Murray and Amnesty Ed: I'm going to check my files. Somewhere I have Bush's bio sketch and I want to check a few things before I say a whole lot. But one thing that needs to be said here is that there are a number of splinter groups that the CIA has spun off. These groups do work for the Company, the Firm, and sometimes the Institute that are not easily done under the normal channels. Col. Gritz and others have been investigating a number of connections between CIA and drugs. There has been a long standing rumor that the "CIA" used (uses) drug money to finance operations that otherwise would not be supported by funds from Congress. I have every reason to believe that rumor, but I don't think we are talking about the CIA but rather splinter groups. As to the use of an "anti-gravity disc" in the attempt to rescue the hostages, I can only say that the fellows that went in evidently didn't know anything about it. I'd like to see more documentation on this. Personally, I take anything said by the NSA with a large grain of salt--as I do with anything that the Company says. This doesn't mean that Murray wasn't told the truth. He may have a contact who is willing to take the risks. But I've learned to be very careful about what the spook community says. This is the second time I've seen a reference to the book "October Surprise." Is it a fairly recent book? I think I'd better get a copy to check out what the author is saying. Thanks for Murray's address. Gene gross@dg-rtp.dg.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gross@dg-rtp.dg.com (Gene Gross) Subject: Re: Mercury Drives Date: 12 Feb 90 22:40:56 GMT ->From: gmz@well.sf.ca.us (Gerry Zeitlin) ->Subject: Mercury drives Gerry: Thanks for the information and the address. What is the book "The Matrix" that you mentioned about? Gene -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: New Affiliates Date: 13 Feb 90 00:05:00 GMT This is to welcome two new affiliates to the ParaNet family. ParaNet TAU-EPSILON Edward Melville Memphis, Tennessee 901-785-4943 ParaNet NU-DELTA John Hicks Orlando, Florida 407-649-4135 On behalf of ParaNet, WELCOME!! Please take a moment to introduce yourselves. Michael Corbin Administrator -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Carr Subject: Face Date: 13 Feb 90 02:19:00 GMT Forgive my ignorance, but why is a linear translation the most honest one? Wouldn't something like histogram equalization reveal the actual level of detail most accurately? /exit -- Paul Carr - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Carr@p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Clark.Matthews Subject: Re: 1940's Crash In La. Date: 13 Feb 90 04:55:00 GMT Hi Winston. If you pick up a copy of "Clear Intent", you'll see -- along with Hoover's actual memos and longhand postscript on the "crashed disk" -- that the actual incident that caused the memo was a hoax. Apparently the object was a pie pan and Hoover's concern was that it was planted by Commie agents provocateur to cause panic. At least, that's what I recall of the incident. The book is well worth a look! Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Re: 1940's crash in LA. Date: 12 Feb 90 16:12:00 GMT -> It is not at all clear that the "it" was a real disk or a Hoax -> disk being referred to in the Hoover Memo. -> somewhat ambiguous memo. Sure is. Either way, I *WOULD* like to know what he was talking about. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Vice President emphasizes White House space commitment (Forwarded) Date: 13 Feb 90 07:55:00 GMT Below is an article excerpted from NASA Headline News of February 12, regarding the budget funding increase request. Something that ties in here I saw in the latest issue of Omni Magazine regarding the SETI program also getting record amounts of appropriation for the same time period to extend to 1993. The search for extraterrestrial intelligence is a costly proposition. A lot of money to spend for such a folly -- wouldn't you agree? ****************************************************** VICE PRESIDENT EMPHASIZES WHITE HOUSE SPACE COMMITMENT On January 26, the Administration announced it was seeking a 23 percent funding increase for NASA in FY 1991, the largest increase for any major agency. The President's budget message said that, "The exploration of space has benefits for the United States that go far beyond the quantifiable. There are specific payoffs in the form of new materials, technological discoveries and microgravity research. But no price can be put on the lifting of the spirit of people everywhere ... And no quantitative measure of any kind can capture the benefit of expanding human horizons, human dreams and the human domain." ****************************************************** Also note the microgravity research. Wonder where this research is being carried out? Could it be Area 51 or S-4? Just a thought. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG!Rick.Moen Subject: Re:ignorance!! Date: 10 Feb 90 05:51:40 GMT -> No need to wag your grin at me, Rick - I think you know what I'm -> saying. -> -> By the way, I established contact with the skeptics on that board, and -> I was right, they were ignorant of the issues. I think the difference -> between yourself and these guys illustrates the difference between -> informed and uninformed skepticism. You seem to be pretty "up" on -> things, and you also seem disinclined to the intellectual snobbery I -> see rampant in many skeptics, whereas these guys were full of little -> side comments such as "No evidence ", etc. Needless to say, I -> shook them up a little. I also gave them the number for our Atlanta -> board, Tau Gamma (which I hope is still active??) so they may be -> logging in here soon enough. Perhaps you can set them straight on the -> proper application of skepticism. Yes, I certainly do know what you mean. Much as I hate to dive into the game of trying to define "genuine skepticism", I do recognise that the traits you describe do characterise some people who call themselves skeptics. More's the pity. As to my (our?) being pretty up on things, well, I/we try, and also attempt to leave large amounts of room for our own ignorance. No one can be an expert on all fringe-science fields -- if you're smart, you compile a list of people to call, instead. [Who ya gonna call?... Skeptics!] Ray Hyman (psychologiy prof. at U. of Oregon, CSICOP founder & Fellow) wrote an excellent article called (I believe) "Proper Criticism", which is available from CSICOP and gives a good grounding in the indicated subject -- recommended. I certainly hope Paranet Tau Gamma is alive and well, and providing an access point for those folks, who should have much to contribute. Rick Moen Secretary, Bay Area Skeptics Sysop, The Skeptic's Board -- Rick Moen - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!.123/21@f21.n123.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Edward.Melville.@.123/21 Subject: Re: Richard Murray & Congressional Amnesty Date: 12 Feb 90 21:38:12 GMT -> The CIA was created 17 Sept 1947 by Harry Truman (the same -> date as the phony "Truman MJ-12 letter"). One of the MJ-12 -> people, as I recall, was its first head, but I can't -> remember which. -> -> I think the writer meant "1984". Bush was head of CIA in the middle 70s. Ed -- Edward Melville @ 123/21 - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Edward.Melville.@.123/21@f21.n123.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly Subject: Skeptics Date: 7 Feb 90 03:54:00 GMT ii > Let's see. This message comes from a person calling ii > himself John Daly ii > and claims to come from Tasmania. Well, how do we know ii > this. Maybe ii > this person isn't really named John Daly. Maybe this ii > person doesn't ii > even exist. That's it, he's a figment of imagination. The ii > byproduct of ii > marsh gas. ;-) 8-) 8-) ii > ii > As for the Greenhouse effect, I probably tend to share your ii > view. I can assure all my fans that my name really is John Daly, and that I am living in Tasmania (where my local BBS is). If you don't know where Tasmania is - shame on you! Is there a Tasmanian Devil? Is it just a figment of Bugs Bunny cartoons? Is there a Loch Ness Monster? What, if anything, does a Scotsman wear under his kilt? Here is a puzzle for our American Paranet users only - Is there a Tasmanian Devil? First correct answer from an American user gets an all-expenses paid trip to Alpha Centauri (wherever that is). Regards John Daly Tasmania (Land of the Tasmanian Devil) -- John Daly - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Daly@f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Vladimir.Godic. Subject: KNOWLEDGE OF ALIENS Date: 12 Feb 90 06:05:00 GMT -> About the rings in England, are the rings of debate in -> the messages on this system the ones that were featured on -> "Unsolved Mysteries" last Wednesday (Jan 31)? I didn't see the -> show, but a friend whe did say they were more like circles than -> rings, and that they (again, according to the show) mysteriously -> would appear over- -> night. The show also made mention of a bood written about the -> "phenomenon," and if anybody knows the title or author of the -> book, I'd like to hear about it. ...Lou--- ZMailQ 1.10 The book is titled "Circular Evidence" by Pat Delgado & Colin Andrews. Published in the U.K. and highly recommended. -- Vladimir Godic - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Vladimir.Godic.@f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Vladimir.Godic. Subject: CIRCLES Date: 13 Feb 90 06:27:00 GMT Jim, I agree 100% with you in your reply to John Daily re circles in England. We are talking about circles in wheatfield NOT circles made from rocks etc. I have investigated many circles in the past. Some of them were very easy to explain but, at the same time, I came across circles for which there was no explanation. Many years ago, we went to investigate a particular circle in a wheatfield, here in South Australia. The farmer, who owned the land, was adamant that no-one (to the best of his knowledge) could have gone into the field and made that circle. This circle appeared, to make things even worse, overnight according to the farmer. Anyway, to cut a long story short, we contacted C.S.I.R.O. (Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial Research Organisation) and send them ground samples. Back came the answer: It was a kangaroo, sitting on its bottom and turning around (I'll leave this to you, Jim, to figure out - why the kangaroo was performing this particular ritual). How did they find out? Well, very easy. They found minute particles of kangaroo droppings in the soil samples we sent them! There are also another different types of circles made by little bugs -they look like beetles - who start chewing grass from the center of the circle and work their way outwards, in other words they create a (perfect) circle. We've visited some of these circles after a year, or so, and they were still there. It takes quite a long time for the grass to recover back to its normal green color. Another type of semi-circle is caused by some sort of fungus (slime mould) and it usually appears when it rains after a hot spell. I have seen many of these semi-circles in people's backyard and, from the distance, they have appearance of diesel oil splashed on the lawn. In reference to "Angels Hair", mentioned not long ago, there is no doubt whatsoever that it is a spider web. The Adelaide University and the Museum people were very helpful some years ago when the local "Flying Saucer Club" got all excited after a number of people reported seeing a white substance floating around and on the ground. I went to check-out a golf course which was covered with this substance. It looked like it was covered with snow. I took many samples, including grass and leaves from schrubs etc, and I also found a number of little spiders inside the web. I was told (by the University people) that these little spiders attach themselves to their web and fly for many miles. They were found on the ships' masts anything up to hundred (or more) miles out on the sea. -- Vladimir Godic - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Vladimir.Godic.@f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly Subject: Re: Skeptomania is cool Date: 10 Feb 90 17:26:00 GMT JS> I'm becoming more and more interested in your challenge to JS> the Global Warming crusaders. Your views would appear to JS> have been supported in the 12/29/89 issue of Forbes (of JS> course, this is to be expected of that bastion of JS> Capitalism). And apparently George Bush is saying "not so JS> fast" as well. JS> JS> Not sure where I stand on this one, just glad to know that JS> your side is responsibly represented here on ParaNet. JS> I've never heard of Forbes. But then this is Tasmania. The Massachussetts Institute of Technology is now the main focus of opposition to the Greenhouse scare. They are not tainted by vested interest pressures, and have a world-wide reputation for good solid scientific work, not just in the U.S. Also, a New Zealand research team in the Antarctic has just reported that they can find no evidence of the `Ice-Albedo Feedback'. This is a feedback mechanism incorporated in the computer models of climate, whose effect is to boost up any initial temperature increases, on the theoretical assumption that a slight warming will push back the ice/snow line, and thus reduce the reflection of sunlight, causing further warming. That assumption is now observed to be false. Furthermore, NASA has now determined by satellites, that increasing cloudiness (a byproduct of any warming) does actually have a significant cooling effect. This factor has been ignored in the models up to now. Regards John Daly Tasmania. -- John Daly - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Daly@f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly Subject: Strange Rings in Britain Date: 10 Feb 90 17:32:00 GMT JS> > Iron age man in Britain were great civil engineers - evidence JS> > of their work litters the countryside of Britain, so there is no JS> > mystery about the rings. JS> JS> John, the wheatfield circles seem connected with the stone JS> circle monuments, i.e., all 750 are within a few miles of JS> either Stonehenge or some other monument. The monuments JS> themselves may present no mystery, but the wheatfield JS> circles have no explanation as of yet. My personal feeling JS> is that it is a hoax, but I will be the first to admit that JS> I have no proof on which to base that opinion. In the decade JS> or so since the circles began appearing, not one soul has JS> been caught in the act. Despite my opinion, which is more of JS> a prediction of how things will turn out, I must dispute you JS> at this point and state that the wheatfield circles ARE a JS> mystery. JS> Much of Britain is covered in recent sediments. Old structures are being dug up all the time, some of them not so old either. In the case of the rings, an underground structure would leave a surface trace, caused by factors such as water drainage around the structure, and the possibility that the materials around the structure may be different (eg. clay) to that in the general vicinity. The easiest way to solve the `mystery' would be to dig one up Regards John Daly Tasmania -- John Daly - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Daly@f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly Subject: Re: Philadelphia Experiment Date: 10 Feb 90 17:38:00 GMT BH> .. Submarines tend to stay submarged nowadays, and tend have BH> nothing to do w BH> Air Wave Transmissions while submerged. Submarines CAN receive radio messages while submerged. The frequency however has to very low, such as 15 kHz. Only then do the waves penetrate the water. The worldwide OMEGA navigation system, owned by the USA, uses very low frequency transmitters for navigational use by world shipping. However, these transmitters are also capable of broadcasting to submerged submarines. Regards John Daly Tasmania -- John Daly - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Daly@f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly Subject: Cows Date: 10 Feb 90 17:46:00 GMT One thing puzzles me about all the cattle mutilation messages on Paranet. They all seem to happen in the USA only. I've never heard of them happening in Europe or Australia. Regards Johnn John Daly -- John Daly - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Daly@f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly Subject: Re: Mars Face Date: 13 Feb 90 05:13:00 GMT Hi Gene! or is your name Infor.par#co,.alpha.com^%$? I don't understand these hierogliphics - it looks more like the sort of code the Pentagon uses. Re' the Mars Face - there is one simple answer to my query. Please send me a copy of the untreated photo you refer to. You may see a face; I might see a goddess! (Here's hoping!) My address if you want to send me a copy is - John Daly 30 Dyball Street Hadspen 7290 Tasmania Phone (International) 61-03-93-6596 Regards John Daly Tasmania -- John Daly - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Daly@f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly Subject: Re: Skeptomania is cool Date: 13 Feb 90 05:15:00 GMT * Replying to a message originally to Jim Delton BS> In a message to John Daly <01-31-90 10:10> Jim Delton wrote: BS> BS> JD> >>Free speech cuts both ways. BS> JD> Thanks for your well thought out post on that subject. I BS> JD> have lost count of the number of times I have been beaten BS> BS> Heck, I don't know anymore, I get so far behind in trying to BS> keep up with all these messages. BS> BS> It appears that you and John are arguing about virtually the BS> same thing from different points. BS> BS> That's like saying you are both arguing for the very same BS> thing, but against BS> each other. BS> BS> Correct me if I have missed something here, believe me I BS> think I have. And you think you're confused!!! Regards John Daly Tasmania -- John Daly - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Daly@f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly I don't like to say this, but you addressed your last message to someone called INFOPARA@SCICOM.ALPHACDC.COM. I thought Tasmanians abused the English language, but are you in communication with an alien or something? Regards John Daly Tasmania ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly Subject: Greenhouse Effect Date: 13 Feb 90 05:15:00 GMT ii> "GREENHOUSE REVISITED...A new computer simulation predicts ii> Northern Hemisphere will endure significantly more heat than ii> the ii> Southern Hemisphere by the year 2030. The prediction seems ii> to ease the ii> most feared consequence of the greenhouse effect: that the ii> ice sheets of ii> Antartica would melt and contribute to rising sea levels. ii> According to ii> a recent article in NATURE magazine, the computer model is a ii> new and ii> improved version of previous models because it takes into ii> account the ii> ability of oceans to influence climate. Although the ii> simulation is more ii> detailed, scientists warn there are still many unknowns ii> accompanying ii> these forecasts." ii> ii> And in our for what it's worth department: rumor has it ii> that the ii> Tasmanian Devil is actually a Klingon pet. Is this true, ii> John? ;-) ii> ii> Did some checking about the "meteors" seen a while back. So Yet another computer model.... The point is that global climate cannot be encapsuLated in a computer. Also, remember the GIGO principle! New evidence from MIT puts a more sober light on ;the whole scare. The models have been lacking sufficient OBSERVATIONAL evidence to support the ad hoc assumptions about water vapour, lapse rate, ice-albedo feedback, latent heat transport, sensible heat transport, and cloud albedo. The modelers have been building in every positive feedback mechanism they could think of, but conveniently ignoring all the negative feedbacks. Thus the 0.25 deg radiative effect of doubled CO2 is blown out in the models to 2 to 5 degs. All the greenhouse scientists are interested only in models, models, and more models. There is a scarcity of real observational evidence to support the scare. Regards John Daly Tasmania -- John Daly - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Daly@f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f0.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Bob.Fletcher Subject: Re: Mars Face Date: 14 Feb 90 05:40:00 GMT -> -> Hi Gene! or is your name Infor.par#co,.alpha.com^%$? John, Don't be too skeptical at whay you see. The above is a usenet address that links the unix sytems throuout the world. There could be a bit on noise on this. I too have an address at Deakin University it being "megatron@charlie.deakin.oz.au" however you need an account on the unix to use this. Your files will go out in the next few days. They have been held up whilst I see what Alpha says. As they are not ParaNet files it have been decided to allow them through the network but will carry disclaimer distancing ParaNet from your theories. Regards, Bob..... -- Bob Fletcher - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bob.Fletcher@f0.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Vladimir.Godic. Subject: The Mundrabilla-Nullarbor Document Date: 14 Feb 90 04:55:00 GMT We have finally put together a package of all the information we have on the January 20, 1988 Mundrabilla event. Contents include police reports, news clippings, our investigation notes and interviews with the Knowles, the truck drivers and results of analyses. The package will be single sided A4 sized and unstapled. You can put them into whatever "filing system" you want or we can staple the document for you. Please state your preference, with your order,- "stapled" or "unstapled". Price in Australia, including packaging and postage, is $ 25.00. Overseas surface mail A$ 30.00. Please make cheques, Money Orders etc, payable to: "UFO Research Australia". Address: PO Box 229, Prospect, South Australia 5082. Vladimir Godic - UFORA Administrator -- Vladimir Godic - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Vladimir.Godic.@f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Vladimir.Godic. Subject: CIRCLES - News from UFORA Date: 14 Feb 90 05:57:00 GMT On Saturday December 16, 1989, Bill Chalker (UFORA Scientific Cosultant) advised us of an article in the Melbourne "Truth" concerning the discovery of a number of unusual circles in a wheat crop. On the following day we received a call from the wife of the property owner involved who related details of the finding. On about December 12 or 13, two men were stripping wheat on the property of Max and Nancee Jolly when they spotted two swirled cirles of wheat. These were some 3 metres in diameter, surrounded by three other circles approx. 1 metre across. The wheat had been flattened and swirled anti-clockwise in each circle. Stalks were undamaged with grain matured on the heads. Mrs Jolly told us of a number of possibly related incidents which had occurred over recent years. These included: November 1987.- Lights in the sky. 4000 litre water tank drained. December 1988.- Son, Stuart, awoken by unusual noise which seemed to come from an empty sky. August 1989. - Sheep disturbed. Pulsating yellow lights hovering over paddock. High pitched noise audible. On December 18, Bill spoke to Nancee and Stuart and ascertained that the story in the "Truth" was substantially correct, although the date of the light in the sky report, in 1989, might be incorrect. Five circles were located in all. Two had ben cut during harvesting but were still evident. There is no direct correlation with any UFO event. The countryside involved is gently undulating, otherwise largerly flat. Bill's tentative conclusio is: "Interesting UFO activity, traces may not be relevant, There is no evidence, to date, directly linking them to UFO explanation." Investigated by: Bill Chalker & Keith Basterfield. -- Vladimir Godic - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Vladimir.Godic.@f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Vladimir.Godic. Subject: OZTRAIN Date: 14 Feb 90 06:10:00 GMT Jim: I've just received additional information on the "OZTRAIN" from Bob Fletcher. What we wanted is the initial source of information, which now we know, so we can proceed with our inquiries. Will keep you posted. Vladimir -- Vladimir Godic - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Vladimir.Godic.@f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker Subject: Re: Richard Murray and Amnesty Date: 13 Feb 90 15:41:00 GMT To All: I had occasion to meet Murray briefly this past year, and the best that I can say is that Richard Murray is an opportunist and entrepreneurial. When anyone suggests that Wm. Cooper is on the ball, and that the NSA is verifying Cooper's material as "on the money", little flags pop up. Come on, if any of you were not around when Bill Cooper first came on the scene on ParaNet, look in the files to see how many "revisions" Cooper made on his paper before he "got it right". CAVEAT EMPTOR ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker Subject: Re: The Co. & Drugs Date: 13 Feb 90 15:48:00 GMT Gene: As you are undoubtedly aware, the Company and Special Forces, in order to secure the loyalty of the indigenous Hill Tribesmen in Viet Nam, Laos, and Cambodia, purchased their major cash crop during the war years: opium. -> channels. Col. Gritz and others have been investigating a -> number of -> connections between CIA and drugs. There has been a long -> standing rumor -> that the "CIA" used (uses) drug money to finance operations There is really nothing new or shocking about the above; as anyone can tell you, the Company has always made a habit and a virtue out of "doing what has to be done". My big question has always been just what did they do with the raw opium after they bought it. Did they recoup their investiment? Silly question. Don -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker Subject: Update-Human Mutes Date: 13 Feb 90 16:58:00 GMT In the new issue of UFO Magazine, I have written an update on the investigation of what appear to be more mutilations involving humans. During the November 1989 Omega conference hosted by John White, Whitley Strieber castigated UFO Magazine for running my story on human mutilations in Vol. 4 Number 3. In that news story, I related the results of an investigation I was conducting on what appeared to be a series of human deaths that greatly resembled animal mutilations. Also, I included a report from Wm. "Bill" Knell of the Long Island Skywatch organazation. Knell had been conducting research into an inordinate number of missing children in the area of Westchester County. According to Strieber, he had received "hundreds" of phone calls from concerned citizens about the story. ( That in itself is suspect, as anyone knows who has ever tried to call Strieber. Strieber has an answering service or secretary that screens each call, takes a message and then Whitley decides on whom he will speak with. ) Anyway, I digress. Knell has many police contacts, and after checking with them, there were no contacts from Whitley. ( One could surmise that what really had Whit in a snit was the way the print media had lambasted his flick, Communion, and his recent books, such as Majestic. He had just called all journalists - prostitutes. ) According to Knell and officers from the New York State Police, and the Connecticut State Police, the reported figures were in no way accurate, but the weirdest happening was when Knell received an inquiry from an Asst. Medical Examiner from Westchester County. The Asst. ME wanted to know everything Knell could relate on humans that had been mutilated. When Knell pursued this, it turned out that 3 morgues ( 2 in New York, 1 in Connecticut ) had been "hit" in the middle of the night. Newly arrived human cadavers had been mutilated by removal of face, genitals, eyes, parts from the stomic, rectum, thyroids, etc. The morgues were immediately investigated by the police, but nothing could be placed on the employees. There were reduced staff at that time of night, and the events occured in different areas. High strangeness indeed. According to the Asst. ME, the incidents were immediately concealed from the media and public. More than likely the reasons were that there was no explanation, nor were the incidents going to be solved in the near future. As an aside, there were also quite a few animal mutilations that were occuring in New York and Connecticut, and once again no solutions were forthcoming for these events. The Satanic explanation was examined, and according to the reporting witness, did not hold water. Any ideas from the membership? Needless to say, the investigation is ongoing. Don Ecker -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Sudduth Subject: Re: Greenhouse Effect Date: 13 Feb 90 23:28:00 GMT The evidence seems to be growing rapidly. Recently, scientists discovered that the CO2 content in the atmosphere has risen dramatically since the last ice age. They used ice core samples in Greenland and measured the CO2 content for each year. One result is that human population alone can account for much of the CO2 rise. -- Don Sudduth - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Sudduth@p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f3.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Doug.Rogers Subject: Interesting names Date: 14 Feb 90 01:52:36 GMT John, The names that seem to puzzle you (and other users of Paranet) so much are account names on another cross-connected network called Usenet. It is basically an interconnection of college (and some industry) owned mainframes. The names used contain navagational data to help the net deliver mail. I hope this clears up some of the confusion. There ARE real people. 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