Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 156 Sunday, February 18th 1990 Today's Topics: Re: "la", Reich, & Alabama Comments Re: Krill files.. Spaceship? Richard Murray and Congress. Amnesty. Re: Newsletter's 145,146 Richard Murray & Congress. Amnesty Reich/Gardner ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f18.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Mac.Druaidh Subject: Re: "la", Reich, & Alabama Comments Date: 17 Feb 90 00:43:00 GMT JS} freaks, up there with Tesla and Joe Newman. Who is Joe Newman? I know of Tesla and Reich, but JN is a new one to me. -- Mac Druaidh - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mac.Druaidh@f18.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Don.Allen Subject: Re: Krill files.. Date: 17 Feb 90 03:44:00 GMT DE>The Krill files were conceived and written by a shadowy UFO researcher in Nv. by the name of John Grace. Grace and John Lear in fact do know each other, and back in 1987 when I first met John Lear, and he gave the the package of documents that included his research and conclusions, the Krill documents were included. Thanks for the info Don..it DID strike me as slightly eerie,that upon reading the Krill files for the first time that I was experiencing Lear deja vu'. -- Don Allen - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Sandy.Barbre Subject: Spaceship? Date: 17 Feb 90 12:05:00 GMT We can ponder all day long about aliens in their little spacecrafts and green martians and little 4 ft grey beings but WHY must we always believe that they travel in SPACESHIPS? Why couldn't they, being of higher intelligence, contact us through mental telepathy and or thought transference. Big question folks!!! So how about some answers. Will they be able to bring their spaceships in to rescue some of us from this pending POLE SHIFT that I keep reading and hearing so much about. We might wish this to be possible since it appears that it won't be a pretty sight and I for one don't want to be here during and/or after the shift. Are there aliens among us right now taking over bodies of humans (as walk-ins) after the human has gotten tired of their life and was willing to change places? I keep hearing all these things that other people have written (published) but no that much about these things from you all. If you think I'm way off track, put me on the right one. I'm open to comments, suggestions and EVEN criticism. -- Sandy Barbre - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Sandy.Barbre@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sparta!sun!esanborn (Ed Sanborn) Subject: Richard Murray and Congress. Amnesty. Date: 18 Feb 90 13:13:23 GMT Gene: Thanks for your reply. Yes, if you could help on Bush's bio, that would be appreciated. I mean to put some serious time into checking this story out. I've checked locally for the "October Surprise" book. No luck yet. Will keep checking. I should be receiving info from Murray soon as I sent his requested amount of $2.50 last week. I will be talking with him again soon and this time my cassete recorder will allow me to catch alot more of his story. I recall that Murray has stated that one of his sources is in Wash.D.C. and has been an excellent source for him. Again, I'll broadcast more info. as I receive it. Who is Col. Gritz? Can he be reached for comment? Also, if you could provide, even if it just be speculation, more info on the various splinter groups that you feel may be involved. Take care. Ed uunet!sparta!esanborn H# (508) 453-5609 W# (508) 937-1600 x.247 175 Cross St. Lowell, Ma. 01854 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sparta!sun!esanborn (Ed Sanborn) Subject: Re: Newsletter's 145,146 Date: 18 Feb 90 13:14:00 GMT Ray Griffin: No, not to my knowledge. My father died when I was four (1968) and my grandfathers died previous to that time. Ray, I've been meaning to write you for some time now. Is it true what I'm reading about you from people such as Byron Smith and others? I've been watching the traffic for a couple of months now and your comments are intriguing. I probably have alot of your background that I could re-piece together to get up to date, but for the record, who are you? Who are the Elders, etc.? Sorry for the basic questions but I'm sure I'm not the only one who needs to get up to speed. Thank you, and if I can be of any assistance please let me know. Ed Sanborn MassMufon SD 175 Cross St. Lowell, Ma. 01854 H# (508) 453-5609 W# (508) 937-1600 x.247 uunet!sparta!esanborn -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sparta!sun!esanborn (Ed Sanborn) Subject: Richard Murray & Congress. Amnesty Date: 18 Feb 90 13:15:02 GMT To All: Yes, thank you for correcting my mistake. I'd like to say that was a typo but the fact is I must have copied it down while speaking to Mr. Murray and just never corrected it. When I get more info on him and his effort I'll distribute it. In the meantime, if anyone else has any info in their files on this subject please participate and speak up. Thanks. Ed Sanborn MassMufon SD 175 Cross St. Lowell, Ma. 01854 H# (508) 453-5609 W# (508) 937-1600 x.247 uunet!sparta!esanborn -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chalmers@violet.berkeley.edu (John H. Chalmers Jr.) Subject: Reich/Gardner Date: 18 Feb 90 21:02:53 GMT Keith F. : Thanks for the additional information about the Reich affair. Can you post additional information on how WR's books got back in print? I believe the New Yorker cartoonist William Steig was one of WR's champions at the time. As I said, I had no trouble finding his books on the Stanford U library shelves in 1961-62 when I read them. I saw "Character Analysis" on the desk of a psychoanalyst in 1962 and ran into several self-styled Reichians in So. Calif in the early 60's when WR's ideas had a vogue and never heard any complaints about the unavailability of his writings. I must say, though, that the books of his that I read were extremely unconvincing. If anything, the discoveries in cancer research and molecular biology since the late 50's have not validated any of WR's ideas on biophysics, "bions", etc. I can't speak for psychology, but my Freudian social worker friend is not impressedwith Reich's contributions to her field. I also feel I must speak in Martin Gardner's defense. While I agree that he can be infuriating when he asperses someone like the 19th century music theorist, A. J. Ellis whose work I find particulary valuable, it was through MG's book "Fads and Fallacies" that I first became aware of WR, Lawsonomy, the Forteans, etc. Martin Gardner is chiefly responsible for bringing Maurits Escher's art to public attention via his column in Sci Am and more recently he publicized Roger Penrose's non-periodic pentagonal tilings (Penrose also invented the math behind Twistors). MG's columns directly inspired researchers to consider the possibility of crystals with the "forbidden" 5-fold symmetry. When the puzzling X-ray diffractograms of a new Aluminum-Manganese alloy were first seen, the theory was already at hand to understand them because one of MG's readers had done the math for fun. Now "quasi-crystals"are a major interest in Materials Science, and one of my music theorist friends has just applied the Penrose tilings to music scale generation. As I continually tell students and some of my less confident music theory colleagues, you don't have to believe the opinions of authorities to make use of their facts. The musicologist James Murray Barbour passionately believed that the traditional 12-tone equal temperament was the best possible tuning, yet his book Tuning and Temperament" is an excellent reference work and the first theory book I bought. MG may be opinionated, but he also has a sense of humor about the matters he is skeptical about. I feel uneasy about citing R. A. Wilson as an authority on anything as I am never quite sure when he is joking. With MG I am always sure of his biases and can discount them if necessary. Finally, as many theologians maintain, even the Devil is constrained to do good. ----John ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************