Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 157 Monday, February 19th 1990 Today's Topics: Re: "la", Reich, & Alabama Comments Spaceship? Re: Leonard Stringfield Inquiry Re: Reich Time Travel Inquiry Re: Spaceships New ParaNet Affiliate Re: Leonard Stringfield Inquiry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Re: "la", Reich, & Alabama Comments Date: 18 Feb 90 06:02:00 GMT > Who is Joe Newman? I know of Tesla and Reich, but JN is a new one > to me. Ah, a most interesting gent is he. I bet you've heard of him but have forgotten. It is he who has designed a new motor that puts out more energy than it takes in. He lost a fight with the patent office, because (says he) they simply won't patent a "free energy" or "perpetual motion" device. (The real reason seems to be that it just doesn't work). He lives somewhere in Mississippi, claims to have run a Porsche with the thing, claims that Ray-O-Vac is interested in purchasing the design, claims that God told him to run for President, claims to have been predicted to be the next President by Nostradamus, etc. etc.... Yeah, THAT guy. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: isis!scicom!paranet!Sandy.Barbre Subject: Spaceship? Date: 17 Feb 90 12:05:00 GMT We can ponder all day long about aliens in their little spacecrafts and green martians and little 4 ft grey beings but WHY must we always believe that they travel in SPACESHIPS? Why couldn't they, being of higher intelligence, contact us through mental telepathy and or thought transference. Big question folks!!! So how about some answers. Will they be able to bring their spaceships in to rescue some of us from this pending POLE SHIFT that I keep reading and hearing so much about. We might wish this to be possible since it appears that it won't be a pretty sight and I for one don't want to be here during and/or after the shift. Are there aliens among us right now taking over bodies of humans (as walk-ins) after the human has gotten tired of their life and was willing to change places? I keep hearing all these things that other people have written (published) but no that much about these things from you all. If you think I'm way off track, put me on the right one. I'm open to comments, suggestions and EVEN criticism. -- Sandy Barbre - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Sandy.Barbre@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Ray.Griffin Subject: Re: Leonard Stringfield Inquiry Date: 18 Feb 90 13:57:00 GMT LS is still very active just not as obvious. He is currently working on the South Africa and Roswell crashes. -- Ray Griffin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Ray.Griffin@p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keith@raptor.cray.com (Keith A. Fredericks) Subject: Re: Reich Date: 19 Feb 90 18:08:04 GMT Jim: You asked essentially if Reich's work has been verified or repeated. Apparently the cloudbuster work has been by Trevor Constable and I believe that this was published, I don't know where. Rober Anton Wilson gives additional references of publications where Reich's work has been repeated. In general though, I believe the answer is in the negative, there have not been big studies to replicate his work in orgone and cloudbusting. These I believe, are the two topics of the greatest focus, and they are related. Much of the work with orgone energy (so called) centers on the idea that bi-layer metal boxes accumulate something when constructed in a certain way and left alone for a certain amount of time. Reich measured various physical parameters of the boxes to find out if there was a difference between regular (cardboard, I think) and bi-layer metal boxes. He found differences in temperature and a few other measureables. It is interesting to note (especially with respect to our biblical discussions) that according to the construction techniques outlined in the old testament, the ark of the covenent was a bi-layer metal box (to which also are attributed many strange and miraculous things). -- Keith Fredericks, Cray Research Inc., 1440 Northland Dr. Mendota Hgts., MN 55120 keith@cray.com (612)681-3258 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Gross Subject: Time Travel Inquiry Date: 20 Feb 90 01:33:12 GMT -+ -+ From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser -+ Subject: Time travel inquiry -+ Date: 17 Feb 90 17:07:00 GMT -+ -+ -+ -+ -+ -+ My question is --has there ever been any serious, applied -+ -+ (as -+ -+ opposed to theoretical) scientific research done on the question -+ -+ of time -+ -+ travel? If so, can anyone provide details (organization or -+ -+ ------- -+ -+ I don't know of anything being done along these lines, and I would tend -+ to doubt it. I think the vast majority of scientists accept that time -+ travel is impossible. Most of the work done on this topic seems to be purely theoretical. Hawkings and others have speculated on it, but there doesn't seem to be any way to move in this dimension (one of four in our local universe). Gribbins dealt with this very topic in his book, _Timewarps_. In this book, he postulates using black holes to move along the time dimension. Instead of spoiling it for others, I suggest that folks buy the book and add it to their source materials. Essentially, I'd have to say that given our present level of technology and understanding time travel is not possible for us. Will it ever be? That is why we speculate and look at what might be possible. Personally, I'd have to say that time travel is not possible, at least not now or within the foreseeable future. -+ -+ However, one gentleman claims that it is not only possible, but that it -+ has been successfully accomplished via a government project known as -+ "Project Phoenix." His name is Al Bielek, and he talks about it in the -+ ............................... I've already run the gauntlet on Phoenix. ;-) The government funds all manner of projects, so why not a project or two to look into time travel. But the most that could be done is 'white papers.' I'll work on a piece on time travel from the various books and articles that I've got. Should take me a couple of weeks to generate a preliminary report, which I'll post to the BBS and to the newsletter. (If that's okay, MC?) Later, Gene "Still trying to get his 'mass-less' self back on the ground." gross@dg-rtp.dg.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Gross Subject: Re: Spaceships Date: 20 Feb 90 03:14:21 GMT -+From: paranet!Sandy.Barbre -+Subject: Spaceship? -+ -+ We can ponder all day long about aliens in their little spacecrafts and -+ green martians and little 4 ft grey beings but WHY must we always -+ believe that they travel in SPACESHIPS? -+ Why couldn't they, being of higher intelligence, contact us through -+ mental telepathy and or thought transference. Big question folks!!! So -+ how about some answers. Sandy, why do you assume that higher intelligence necessarily means telepathy or any other form of "psychic" abilities? -+ Will they be able to bring their spaceships in to rescue some of us -+ from this pending POLE SHIFT that I keep reading and hearing so much -+ about. We might wish this to be possible since it appears that it -+ won't be a pretty sight and I for one don't want to be here during -+ and/or after the shift. First of all, the idea that the poles are about shift is not well founded. Second, why do we need saving? What makes the human race so important in the galaxtic scheme of things? Here is a problem that I have: there seems to be those who believe that the "aliens" are coming to save us. Then there are others who believe that the "aliens" have come to feast upon us. Frankly, if there are "aliens" in those saucers, why must we be able to understand their purposes? Their motives and purposes may be as alien to our thinking process as their physical appearance is to ours. They might not even see us as being worth but a miniscule glance, maybe not even that much. Yet, I've seen articles and books written about how our "Space Brothers" are coming to rescue us from our own folly before we fry this planet to nuclear dust. Why would they even care? What are we to them? If the calculations are correct (and they are conservative calculations), there are at least a billion planets that could support life. Most of those planets would be older than earth and the civilizations and concomitant technology would be far older then ours. Interstellar flight might have already been accomplished by some of them. Beyond that I don't know how much we can 'reasonably' speculate. But it seems rather clear to me that to ascribe to aliens a human set of feelings or motives is a rather strange and homo-centric thing to do. We might be no more intelligent to them than insects are to us. How many of us spend out time trying to stop ants from fighting one another? I know that for some this is an emotionally charged issue. I'm not trying to offend. But it just seems to me that we, the human race, must take responsibility for our own actions. We must deal with our propensity for war, greed, and hatred and not look to some alien race to come and save us from ourselves. If they save us, we've learned nothing. If we solve our own problems, we've learned and grown. Just personal opinion, for whatever that is worth. Gene -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: New ParaNet Affiliate Date: 19 Feb 90 23:39:00 GMT This is to welcome the newest member of the ParaNet family. ParaNet UPSILON(sm) Jeff Marsh Las Vegas, Nevada Jeff will be ready for callers soon. Please take a moment and introduce yourself to the group, and welcome! Michael Corbin Administrator -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: Re: Leonard Stringfield Inquiry Date: 19 Feb 90 22:57:00 GMT In a message to Michael Corbin <02-18-90 06:57> Ray Griffin wrote: > LS is still very active just not as obvious. He is > currently working on the South Africa and Roswell crashes. Thank you for the information. Did he say how the African crash thing was coming out? Our information is that it is bogus. 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