Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 160 Thursday, February 22nd 1990 Today's Topics: Re: Warning From Uucp Re: Music And Science/mathematics Evidence for Psychokinesis Reich/book-burning Re: Reich Evidence for Psychokinesis UFO research and fiction (none) Reich again... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Don.Sudduth Subject: Re: Warning From Uucp Date: 22 Feb 90 05:38:00 GMT Sounds like electrmagnetic radiation from a satellite. When I worked in Radio Astronomy, we thought we had discovered a new source. It turned out to be terrestrial microwaves. -- Don Sudduth - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Sudduth@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Don.Sudduth Subject: Re: Music And Science/mathematics Date: 22 Feb 90 05:40:00 GMT Yes! Don't waste any time on FOUCAULT's PENDULUM. THE NAME OF THE ROSE was much better!! -- Don Sudduth - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Sudduth@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder Subject: Evidence for Psychokinesis Date: 22 Feb 90 04:29:20 GMT To: keith@raptor.cray.com (Keith A. Fredericks) >Although the authors are very careful about what they say, the article >clearly suggests a strong experimental basis for the existence of >psychokinesis -- that is, consciousness having an effect on physical >systems. Keith, perhaps you also saw this message in sci.skeptic which I cross posted here: (this is condensed) "To whom interested in the recent debate in this group on the scientific evidences of psi ( ESP & PK, Parapsychology, "non-optical EM transmissions", etc. ), there is a special talk on air tonight on CBS' AM national broadcast program ( Mick Pintk ) in which the Princeton University professor Robert Jahn and his colleague Brenda Dunne will discuss the " hard scientific proof that people can influence computers and machines with their thoughts." It is scheduled to start at 10:30 pm here on KDKA in west Pennsylvania." [End of message] I called KDKA a couple of days after the show was scheduled to air for a transcript. They don't do transcripts anymore. But because of a hockey game that preceeded this show ran overtime, it was never aired. A woman from KDKA called me the other day and told me that this show has been rescheduled for March 8 at 9:00 PM EST. Frequency 1020 on AM radio. I don't know where you are but KDKA claims to be heard in 36 states. -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Reich/book-burning Date: 22 Feb 90 15:55:36 GMT Perhaps I've overlooked it, but has it occurred to anyone debating the Reich/bookburning issue to check legal records? It seems to me that any decent library could help. If no one has, I may do so myself (I really would like to know the story, i.e. were the books burned or not?). GRAHAM@IUCF.BITNET -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Clark.Matthews Subject: Re: Reich Date: 22 Feb 90 06:35:00 GMT > It is interesting to note (especially with respect to our biblical > discussions) that according to the construction techniques outlined in > the old testament, the ark of the covenent was a bi-layer metal box (to > which also are attributed ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > many strange and miraculous things). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ... not the least of which things was the ability to zap anyone who fooled around with it without proper preparation. Sounds to me like the Ark of the Covenant was one big Leyden jar that the Israelis strapped to a camel and promenaded around the Sinai from time to time. It built up a big charge during its travels and warded off intruders with a healthy electric kick. But the Ark of the Covenant is old news & rather primitive. What really interests ME is the proto-electric technology that seems to have existed in EGYPT long before the Israelis were confined there. I'm talking about the apparent copper-sulphate wet-cell BATTERIES that have been identified in the Cairo Museum ... along with the tomb frescoes that seem to depict similar wet-cell batteries in use with large LIGHT BULBS. No, gang, I'm not making this up. It's there (for about 100 years they thought the battery jars were Canopic Jars for embalming purposes -- then an electrical engineer examined them and discovered the electrodes in the covers & the copper sulphate crystals still clinging to the insides of the jars). The Cairo Museum also has a nifty collection of TOY GLIDERS, by the way. Neat little fixed-wing jobs with highly efficient airfoil cross-sections. Anyway, Moses -- being adopted into the Egyptian priesthood -- would have known of these mysteries. The fact that he had the Ark of the Covenant built to hold the tablets suggests to me that he (and certainly his Egyptian mentors) still knew plenty about generating & storing static electric charges. So, even though the Cairo artifacts seem to predate the Jews' flight from Egypt, perhaps some of these technologies were still in use during Moses' time. Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Evidence for Psychokinesis Date: 21 Feb 90 06:33:00 GMT Keith: This one belongs in ParaNet General (and so I am moving it). I have heard of that study; didn't Robert Jahns also have something to do with that article? I have to say that I am one who is very skeptical of psychic claims, especially those coming from "professional psychics" like Uri Geller, etc. And I'm afraid its true that just about every controlled ESP study ever done in laboratories has either come out negative or flawed. The ONE exception that I'm aware of, and I hope this is the one the Nelson article is talking about, is the work of Helmut Schmidt with Random Pattern Generation. I met Schmidt at the 1986 CSICOP Conference, where he gave a presentation on his results, which sounded impressive enough. Then Robert Milliken stood up to debunk him, and I naturally assumed it was going to be a rout. But Milliken never touched him. He blathered in generalities, something about "fudge, nudge and grudge," then sat down, leaving Schmidt's actual data and results completely intact. I've looked for something more specific ever since, and have not seen it. Even Martin Gardner has been silent on Schmidt, at least from what I've seen. So I'd be very interested in seeing that article, or a synopsis of it. Thanks... Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: UFO research and fiction Date: 21 Feb 90 06:34:00 GMT > A. Books: > Whitley Strieber, MAJESTIC (Roswell Incident) > > B. Films: > CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (Rendlesham > incident?) > HANGAR 18 (Roswell Incident) > STRANGE INVADERS (Several incidents combined) > WAVELENGTH (basically the Roswell incident) MY SCIENCE PROJECT (Eisenhower Incident) --Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: (none) Date: 21 Feb 90 06:48:00 GMT Some corrections to your friend's comments (which were mostly correct): > of circles, in no particularly exact symmetrical pattern (although > sometimes > they roughly line up in a pattern). It is fairly clear that someone or something is ATTEMPTING to do patterns with some of the circles, unless its a monstrous coincidence. > you can't trust the credentials given in tabloid journalism) Mostly true, and the "scientists" were more like ad hoc investigators. But Unsolved Mysteries is not really tabloid journalism. Its stated purpose is to entertain and titillate, and as shows of its kind go, its quality of information seems to be very high. Witness the Ogopogo video they showed the next week - which they paid handsomely for, by the way. They didn't HAVE to interview the expert who said it was a beaver. They made a point of doing so, however. > o All of the circles have been found in a triangular area around > the > Stonehenge site. I don't remember the square mileage (actually, I think they said all were within 30 miles of Stonehenge. > They > know of no > other sitings outside of this area, anywhere. There have been a few in this country and Canada, I believe. > circles artificially (to see if a hoaxer could do it). They have > not succeeded > yet. I thought those soldiers came pretty darn close, though. > o An astronomer at Cambridge who has some interest in these Thought it was University of Edinburgh. > The show, > amazingly > enough, did not really push the UFO explanation; neither did the > "scientists". > They just left it as an unsolved mystery. Again, UM is not all that bad. I think they're a darn sight better than shows that have a stronger pretense to journalism, such as Inside Edition. -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Reich again... Date: 23 Feb 90 03:04:51 GMT The question "Was Reich's books burned...?" is answered in the book WILHELM REICH VS THE U.S.A. by Jerome Greenfield, Published by W.W. Norton & Company, copyright 1974, 1st edition. The book is primarily the story of Reich's dealings with the FDA, or vice-versa...take your pick. In the appendices, page 304 begins a complete copy of the injunction against Reich. It begins: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In the United States District Court For the District of Maine Southern Division United States of America Civil Action No. 1056 PLAINTIFF V. DECREE INJUNCTION THE WILHELM REICH FOUNDATION A MAINE corporation, WILHELM REICH AND ILSE OLLENDORFF, DEFENDANTS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- and so on. Under the statement "IT IS FURTHER ORDERED:", item 5 lists 10 works by Reich, and orders them to "be withheld by the defendants...". Item 6 is the more interesting: "That all written, printed, and graphic matter containing instructions for the use of any orgone energy accumulator device, instructions for the assembly thereof, all printed, and other announcements and order blanks for the items listed in the paragraph immediately above, all documents, bulletins, pamphlets, journals, and booklets entitled in part as follows;....." then 13 items are listed, and then item 6 ends with the words "...but not limited to those enumerated, shall be destroyed;....". So, there you have it. For those who may want to check the casebooks, the end of the injunction reads: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ March 19, 1954 2:45 P.M. /s/ John D. Clifford, Jr. United States District Judge for the District of Maine A true copy of original filed at 2:45 P.M. on March 19, 1954 Attest: Morris Cox Clerk, United States District Court ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The book has indepth coverage of the events and people involved in the FDA case. Another book entitled "A Book of Dreams" by Peter Reich, 1974 gives a "childs-eye" view of this incident. Hope this helps. GRAHAM@IUCF.BITNET ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************