Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 161 Sunday, February 25th 1990 Today's Topics: Mutilations Re: Canberra "UFO"- Newsflash from UFORA. Re: Mysterious fireballs Richard Murray & Congressional Amnesty Teenage Narl Rap ( and other juxtapositions ) Re: Ufo Crash Rate Question Richard Murray & Congressional Amnesty Re: Reich More on the Anti-Gravity Gyroscope LOOKING FOR A BOOK Reich again... Teenage Narl Rap Re: Mysterious fireballs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker Subject: Mutilations Date: 21 Feb 90 18:45:00 GMT John: > I have lived in England up to 1980, and in Tasmania since > then. I have never heard of cattle mutilations in either > place (which of course does not mean they did'nt happen, > merely that I never got to hear or read of them). I would > be interested to hear of any cases down this part of the > world. > Of course, any mutilations in Tasmania would be blamed > on Tasmanian Devils! Tasmanian Devils, huh? Well OK, duly noted! And as soon as I get some of the work cleared off my desk, I will check and see what I have for your neck of the woods. Regards: Don -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!John.Komar Subject: Re: Canberra "UFO"- Newsflash from UFORA. Date: 22 Feb 90 23:09:00 GMT In a message to All <02-20-90 22:58> Vladimir Godic wrote: VG=>your daily newspapers, about the guy in Canberra who took VG=>shots, on his video camera, of an object early in the VG=>morning (0515hrs EDST). Apart from the media (who are very VG=>when the shots were taken. More in our next despatch. Stay VG=>tuned. I'm staying tuned! Regards, John -- John Komar - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Komar@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!John.Komar Subject: Re: Mysterious fireballs Date: 22 Feb 90 23:22:00 GMT In a message to Michael Corbin <01-31-90 19:00> Jerry Woody wrote: JW=>->In followup to the Fireballs article, I wanted to relate JW=>Hello Michael; JW=>Back in August of 1989 I filed a MUFON report of a fireball JW=>similar if not identical to the fireball in your previous JW=>article. It was travelling at an app. 95-100 degree angle JW=>and very low to the ground. It was white and green. It was JW=>moving very slow [for a meteorite, if that is what it was] JW=>and upon disinigration(?) red material was observed falling JW=>from it.. some of which were "structured" (right angle JW=>was also reported to a Birmingham radio station by numerous JW=>people in that city. I don't know if any follow up was done JW=>or if it was dismissed as a meteor. JW=>Jerry. Jerry, any feedback on this to date? Regards, John MUFONET Echo -- John Komar - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Komar@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esanborn@sun.com (Ed Sanborn) Subject: Richard Murray & Congressional Amnesty Date: 23 Feb 90 16:20:56 GMT David, I posted a correction to both the erroneous date for George Bush's CIA involvement and Murray's phone #. Apparently it did not make it on the echo. I apologize to anyone this has inconvenienced. I'm usually much better at proofreading my postings before sending them. The fact is I made a mistake and I apologize. Anyone who has spent the better part of a previous evening reformatting a SCSI disk on a Sun system (when that is the first time doing it) will understand when I say that I was exhausted the morning I posted, hence the mental mistake. I rarely joke about subjects related to UFO's. I believe what I did was I called information for Richard's # as I had forgot to bring my address book to work that morning. The phone number at the end of this message is the one I used to reach him. I received it from Billy Goodman in Las Vegas. I called information just now and found his number listed under the initials "R. A. Murray" with no address given. I was told there was no address given at the request of Murray. It took two tries and two different telephone operators before the operator just happened to mention the R.A. initialed entries. There are two of them. The R.A. Murray that I talked to is listed below: Richard A. Murray 3368 Governor Drive Suite F336 San Diego, Cal. 92112 (619) 546-0519 that's -> (619) 546-0519 Again, sorry for the inconvenience. If you get through to him please post a message about it so that others will not be shy about contacting him. Take care, Ed Sanborn 175 Cross St. H# (508) 453-5609 Lowell, Ma. 01854 W# (508) 937-1600 x.247 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keith@raptor.cray.com (Keith A. Fredericks) Subject: Teenage Narl Rap ( and other juxtapositions ) Date: 23 Feb 90 15:50:47 GMT The R. D. Nelson paper in Found. Phys. 19, 1499 (1989) that I have talked about recently is a meta-analysis of over 800 experiments relevant to consciousness-related anomalies in random physical systems. Radin and Nelson take a step back from these experiments, viewing the entire data base. In this meta-analysis they have focused on questions of methodological quality and replicability in these experiments. Schmidt and Jahn are among the authors of studies cited in the research. I quote the conclusion of the paper (without permission): In this paper, we have summarized results of all known experiments testing possible interctions between consciousness and the statistical behavior of random-number generators. The overall effect size obtained in experimental conditions cannot be adequately explained by methodological flaws or selecttive reporting practices. Therefore, after considering all of the retrievable evidence, published and unpublished, tempered by all legitimate criticisms raised to date, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that under certain circumstances, consciousness interacts with random physical systems. Whether this effect will ultimately be established as an overlooked methodological artifact, as a novel bioelectrical perturbation of sensitive electronic devices, or as an empirical contribution to the philosophy of mind, remains to be seen. -- BTW: Robert Jahn is the Dean of Engineering at Princeton University. -- -+apparent copper-sulphate wet-cell BATTERIES that have been identified in the -+Cairo Museum ... along with the tomb frescoes that seem to depict similar Speaking of the Cairo Museum...I will be taking a two week vacation to Egypt starting the 25th. Should be real fun and educational. Last night on the Nostalgia Channel just happened to be something like a von Daniken movie, going to each one of the big stone sites, pyramids and stuff like that, with a narration telling how difficult it would have been to transport these giant stones the miles that they needed to be transported. They made a real good case for these people having some way of transporting these stones that we do not know about. -- I just subscribed to this PSI-L mailing list. I have not really gotten much from it yet. -- What about including the Paranet General stuff on this newsletter -- or would that just be Teenage Narl Rap? -- See you in about two weeks. -keith -- Keith Fredericks, Cray Research Inc., 1440 Northland Dr. Mendota Hgts., MN 55120 keith@cray.com (612)681-3258 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!John.Burke Subject: Re: Ufo Crash Rate Question Date: 23 Feb 90 01:24:12 GMT Hi Clark! You're right about the Saturn Machine. It's at the Sandia facility by good ol' Kirtland AFB, home of Paul Bennewitz. There was an article on the Saturn Machine in _National Geographic_ (complete with neat-oh pictures) of either April or May of '89. (Get 'em both because the other issue has a good article on Gravity - I just can't remember which was which.) It's being used to generate EMPs. When I read Bob Oeschler's article in the '89 _MUFON Symposium_ book, discussing the damage to the Chesapeake bridge (which he suspects was due to EMP experiments) I was reminded of the Saturn Machine. Anyway, I was wondering if the gov't. has disclosed the dates of its earlier nuclear tests. A comparison with the dates reported in Stringfield's c/r cases might turn up some interesting "coincidences", who knows? -- John -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: isis!uunet!sparta!sun!esanborn (Ed Sanborn) Subject: Richard Murray & Congressional Amnesty Date: 24 Feb 90 07:15:07 GMT David, I posted a correction to both the erroneous date for George Bush's CIA involvement and Murray's phone #. Apparently it did not make it on the echo. I apologize to anyone this has inconvenienced. I'm usually much better at proofreading my postings before sending them. The fact is I made a mistake and I apologize. Anyone who has spent the better part of a previous evening reformatting a SCSI disk on a Sun system (when that is the first time doing it) will understand when I say that I was exhausted the morning I posted, hence the mental mistake. I rarely joke about subjects related to UFO's. I believe what I did was I called information for Richard's # as I had forgot to bring my address book to work that morning. The phone number at the end of this message is the one I used to reach him. I received it from Billy Goodman in Las Vegas. I called information just now and found his number listed under the initials "R. A. Murray" with no address given. I was told there was no address given at the request of Murray. It took two tries and two different telephone operators before the operator just happened to mention the R.A. initialed entries. There are two of them. The R.A. Murray that I talked to is listed below: Richard A. Murray 3368 Governor Drive Suite F336 San Diego, Cal. 92112 (619) 546-0519 that's -> (619) 546-0519 Again, sorry for the inconvenience. If you get through to him please post a message about it so that others will not be shy about contacting him. Take care, Ed Sanborn 175 Cross St. H# (508) 453-5609 Lowell, Ma. 01854 W# (508) 937-1600 x.247 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Delton Subject: Re: Reich Date: 23 Feb 90 16:40:00 GMT RE: differenct temperatures of cardboard and bi-metal boxes. I'll go out on limb here and make a couple of assumptions about the setup where there was a difference in temp between the cardboard and bi-metal orgone apparatus. I would imagine that the experiment was not done in any sort of controlled environment but was most likely done outdoors. Due to the wide difference in thermal mass, specific heat, reflectivity, absorbtion properties, etc between cardboard and metal, it is NOT the least bit suprising that the measured temperature of the two pieces of apparatus were different but one hardly needs to invoke orgone energy as the cause! -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: More on the Anti-Gravity Gyroscope Date: 25 Feb 90 09:28:03 GMT Subject: More on the Anti-Gravity Gyroscope Author : Gene Battin, BATTIN@IUCF.BITNET I thought readers of Paranet might be interested in this: ----cut here------------------cut here--------------cut here------- (Abstract from the paper "Gyroscope-Weighing Experiment with a Null Result", J. E. Faller, et al, Physical Review Letters, Vol. 64, No.8, Pp 825-6, 19 Feb, 1990) "A recent experiment reporting an anomalous weight reduction for a spinning gyroscope weighed on a pan balance has been repeated in our laboratory. We find no anomalous weight changes of the magnitude reported that depend on rotor speed and/or rotational sense about the vertical axis." ----cut here-------------------cut here--------------cut here------- Well, gang, looks like the latest "neat" anomaly has yet to be confirmed. Since the score is tied, I am going to continue to be on the lookout for more replication attempts. I might note, in passing, that _this_ replication attempt used a somewhat different setup than the original experiment, although none of the differences appear to be in any way crucial, if the effect is truly due solely to rotation. The experiment is simple enough, and the reputed effect large enough, that we ought to see a definite answer one way or the other soon. I'll keep you in touch as soon as I hear anything. BTW, the original paper reporting this effect was by H. Hayasaka and S. Takeuchi, in Physical Review Letters, Vol. 63, 2701 (Dec 1989). They reported finding an anomalous weight change (on the order of milligrams out of a total weight of 175 grams) for a gyroscope rotating in the "spin-down" (right-handed) sense, and no weight change for rotation in the opposite sense. As described in Phys. Lett., they were very careful to control for any systematic errors, and found the weight change to be proportional to rotational speed. Since a few milligrams out of a couple hundred grams is a fairly "large" quantity, we aren't talking about some questionable signal buried in a lot of noise. (This is evident from the error bars and "scatter" in the plots in both papers.) If it turns out that this effect can NOT be reproduced by anyone else, the question of explaining the original data arises. In the event that we end up in _this_ "mode", I will make some effort to find out what the expanation is, and fill you in. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, anyway! Gene Battin BATTIN@IUCF.BITNET P.S. Note the differences and similarities between this anomaly and the recent Cold Fusion controversy. Both effects, if true, would herald possibly revolutionary changes in some fundamental areas of Physical science, and would lead to some amazing technological applications. However, comparing the original reports of both experiments, and the way these effects were announced by their respective discoverers, provides interesting examples of how to do "good" science as opposed to "bad" science, IMHO. Such a comparison might make an good project for someone studying the sociology of modern science. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Phil.Imbrogno Subject: LOOKING FOR A BOOK Date: 24 Feb 90 23:10:00 GMT I AM LOOKING FOR A BOOK BY FRED STECKLING"THEY DISCOVERED ALIEN BASES ON THE MOON. IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE I CAN GET A COPY PLEASE CONTACT ME ON THIS ECHO -- Phil Imbrogno - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Phil.Imbrogno@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Reich again... Date: 24 Feb 90 23:39:00 GMT Thanks, GRAHAM. And that, I guess, settles that. Probably one of the dumbest decisions ever handed down in this country. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Teenage Narl Rap Date: 24 Feb 90 23:46:00 GMT What the heck is Teenage Narl Rap? Am I, like, totally behind the times or something? How grody. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f20.n3607.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jerry.Woody Subject: Re: Mysterious fireballs Date: 25 Feb 90 07:45:00 GMT ->Jerry, any feedback on this to date? Hi John; No, never heard anything further on that particular sightings. There were a rash of "green fireball" sightings down this way the last of the fall and the beginning of winter. By December tho they had dwindled to none. 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