Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 172 Thursday, March 8th 1990 Today's Topics: Re: There Is A Lot Of Current Theories Leading Me In The Direction Of Re: Thoughts For Bryon The Canberra "UFO" - final report Re: Cooper and Paranoia (Randy Alexander) Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter Gulf Breeze photos Richard Murray information packet Message From Sally Sheridan Billy Meier Case ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Clark.Matthews Subject: Re: There Is A Lot Of Current Theories Leading Me In The Direction Of Date: 8 Mar 90 03:06:00 GMT > I would not be surprised fif the military wasn't involved in > something just that bizarre, but that does not explain the > other reports in history that appear to indicate that > aliens have been visiting our world for many years, long > before the military (as we know it) came along Actually, I think this point is well taken. The evidence for EBEs certainly points to their being around long before we master gene splicing -- or even thought of gene splicing. Nevertheless, it would not be the least bit surprising to discover that our own military or intelligence establishments have been messing around with recombinant DNA technologies in search of better biological weapons or hardierspace travelers. In fact, there's considerable precedent for this : The Navy has beencn castigated for its use of trained dolphins as "ultimate smart torpedos". If it wer possible to clone or bioengineer something smarter/more dexterous/more amphibious than a dolphin -- for the purpose of something like a nuclear kamimikaze attack, let's say -- do you REALLY think the combined wisdom of the CIA, NSA, DIA, and other deep black sinkholes would decide to "choose life"? I think not. It's worth noting that there were many repellent and inhumane experiments conducted by the Nazis s on concentration camp prisoners for the sole purpose of selecting genetic traits best suited for space travel (as they imagined it during the 1940's. In fact, thsese criminal experiments have been invaluable for medicine for the subsequent 2 generations simply because we have scruples about inducing -- let's say hypothermia -- in 100 human beings to see who survives, and why, and what the permanent disability is when a human being is frozen to death. I'm surprised that our own secretly-funded nasties haven't been caught doing similar things, frankly. Maybe I'm a cynic ... but I'm still surprised. Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Clark.Matthews Subject: Re: Thoughts For Bryon Date: 8 Mar 90 03:11:00 GMT > Bill Clendenon of Biloxi, MS has done a massive amount of > research into the design of the mercury saucer. He has a > foot locker full of plans and information and has spent his > entire life trying to find the answers to just that > question. He believes he has a working plan but does not > have anyone who can put it together for him. I have his > address and phone number if you would like it. He says it > will work, and that the symbols of the "snakes" and the > "wings" that are used today as a medical symbol were > actually the symbol of flight. Snakes meaning that coils > of mercury (which is poison) were used in the design of the > craft that flew (as such the wings are on the symbol to > indicate flight). Isn't that interesting!? I believe, in the Upanishads, the ancient Hindus believe that their precursors gadded about it flying machines powered by mercury! Vimanas, they called them. I'd be interested in chad in chatting with Mr. Clendenon about his Vimana... Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: The Canberra "UFO" - final report Date: 8 Mar 90 04:04:00 GMT > By the way Jim, was there any mention of this > "UFO" on your TV or in print media? No, no mention here that I've seen. > You see, what happens is > this - if one TV stations gets "hot" news then the rest of them > don't want to be left out so the story gets bigger and bigger. > During the "Mundrabilla" investigation, for example, our > investigators were going in an out Channel 7 (that was the TV > station who got involved with Knowles family) and were driven > around in 7's vehicle. The Channel 9 crew followed them in their > vehicle ( with cameras and reporters on standby) wherever they > went, hoping they'd get an opportunity to film the Knowles vehicle > and talk to the family. Vladimir. Yes, but don't you wish the media would respond like that when you get a REAL sighting? Have you been in touch with the Australian media, to give them your angle on the Canberra case? The combination of press releases and fax machines can be a formidable media tool. We used that tactic here to try and dampen the media publicity surrounding Voronezh. It just seems like the media get so excited over the wrong cases, then follows disappointment, and right in the middle of it, the grey guys drop a real one on us and everyone says, "yeah, sure." Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Gross Subject: Re: Cooper and Paranoia (Randy Alexander) Date: 8 Mar 90 15:16:11 GMT -+ From: paranet!f603.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG!Randy.Alexander -+ Subject: Cooper and Paranoia -+ -+ Well, one reason why 'aliens' could all be 'good guys/ladies' is that -+ their not HUMAN... I agree that HUMANS are not all 'good guys...' but -+ I can't carry that judgement over to other species. -+ -+ I tend to treat reports of 'bad aliens' as paranoia. Humans are famous for -+ fearing and killing anything unknown or not understood. Randy, I'll grant you that humans have a reputation for stupidity when it comes to some things. That was not my point, however. My point is this, why do people assume that because a civilization is thousands of years old and highly advanced technologically that the civilization is "automatically" benign. The age and technological sophistication and advancement of a civilization has nothing to do with the nature of the creatures who make up that civilization. I seriously doubt that humanity's foibles and weaknesses are the unique. If other life exists in the universe, and I believe it does, then there absolutely no reason to assume that they are going to be benign. The reason for caution is not paranoia but more prudence. I'm not saying that we don't respond to messages from alien cultures; we should. Be we should also be a bit cautious in so doing. I don't fear an outright invasion from beyond as I think there are far better and less destructive ways of invading and conquering a planet. Subterfuge is a high artform. So I find that prudence causes me to recommend caution and alertness. Merely being an advanced civilization signifies nothing. I could merely mean that the means of waging war are more advanced. And such advancement tells us nothing about the inherent nature and qualities of the creatures. Nor does it tell us anything about their intentions. Could their intentions be to "serve mankind"? If you haven't seen this TV program (Twilight Zone or Outer Limits, I don't remember), I'll provide you with a synopsis. Those who have will understand what I'm driving at. Gene -+ -+ Randy -+ -+ -- -+ Randy Alexander - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 -+ UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name -+ INTERNET: Randy.Alexander@f603.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG -+ -+ -+ -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mailrus!uunet!crdos1.crd.ge.com!davidsen Subject: Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter Date: 8 Mar 90 15:17:13 GMT -+ I'm curious as to what group or class of people might share -+ those specific qualifications, i.e., in-depth background, 1947 to the -+ present? For one thing they're all OLD! I see no reason why a good reading familiarity with work done 40 years ago would not suffice, but then I'm one of those kids who wasn't doing research in 1947. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Hicks Subject: Gulf Breeze photos Date: 7 Mar 90 18:22:00 GMT I took a look at the photos in the new Gulf Breeze book, and, since I am a pro photographer, somehing struck me as being a little odd. Purportedly, the photos were taken with a Nimslo 3D camera. The 3D aspect isn't important to my observation, but the fact that the camera has relatively slow lenses is important. Also, the photos appear to have been shot on a relatively slow, fine-grain film; that is, less than ISO 400. So, we have a camera with a slow (small-aperture) lens, apparently loaded with a slow film. These photos, of an object at night, are *relatively sharp*. That implies the use of a high shutter speed *or* a tripod. I suspect that if the object was bright enough to use a high shutter speed, it would illuminate the whole area. It's fairly difficult to take a picture of a bright object at night without picking up some illumination of the foreground and background. Even if the object is so high in the sky so as to not see the ground or trees, you will get some illuminated haze around the object. There are very few places on Earth that the air is so clean that there's no dust or water vapor, and Gulf Breeze isn't one of them. I don't remember seeing any ground illumination or illuminated haze around the object. So, we assume the object wasn't all that bright; that is, it wasn't bright enough to use a high enough shutter speed to eliminate camera shake. We then have to assume that the photographer used a tripod. Think about this. The object held still, many times, long enough for the photographer to get a tripod, set it up, get the camera aimed, and make those exposures. That strikes me as being a little ludicrous. Or, possibly, the photographer knew he was going to take a picture of the object and had everything set up in advance. Maybe he set up *every* night and waited for the object to appear. That strikes me as being kinda ludicrous too. I guess I'm going to have to buy the book and read it, but I hate to pay my money so someone can make money off what appears to me to be a hoax. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithr@tolkien.wv.tek.com Subject: Richard Murray information packet Date: 8 Mar 90 22:20:13 GMT I recently sent off my $2.50 to Richard Murray's address that came over ParaNet via Edward A. Sanborn. Here's what I got in the mail about two weeks later: A manilla envelope with a return address of: Richard A. Murray Private Art Broker 3368 Governor Dr., Suite F-336 San Diego, CA 92122 (619) 546-0519 FAX (619) 457-8132 Inside was: A business card for Richard A. Murray, artist "SCULTURE * INTER SCULPT (tm) * GRAPHICS * FURNITURE * SPECIAL EFFECTS * MOVIE * T.V. * ROCK VIDEO * ADVERTISING" 7 sheets of paper and a folded manilla envelope. The first sheet is an instruction sheet. The rest are form letters intended to be sent to your state senator(s). Four of these letters concern apparently something wrong with the way the Federal Reserve is (mis)handling the U.S. economy. The fifth letter is a plea to 'FREE "JOHNATHAN MAY"' since he has "paid enough for the crimes he didn't commit". As far as I can see, these letters have nothing to do with the sixth letter, which is about Dulce, Groom Lake, etc., and calls for a Congressional investigation and Congressional amnesty for those involved. I have typed the Dulce letter verbatim and have tried to translate a non-ASCII, typewriter-composed letter into the nearest ASCII equivalent. Here's the UFO letter Mr. Murray sent: **************cut here************************ TO :__________________ __________________ ___________________ RE : CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION CONGRESSIONAL AMNESTY Dear I'm an American taxpayer and a registered voter in my state. I am fully aware, and my social group are fully aware of the U.F.O.s being held in Secret at the following bases. : * Nellis A.F.B. Nevada * GROOMLAKE ::: SECTOR 51 SECTOR S-4 * DULCE, NEW MEXICO ::: UNDERGROUND BASE There are other bases that we have proof of that will be named as we proceed further. We know that they are there and we are concerned. We have heard from TOP SECRET GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, SCIENTIST, ASTRONAUTS, and many WELL RESPECTED MEN of this nation as to some of the startling truths that exist around this particular situation. The existance of the U.F.O.s, and the aliens that brought them here, and the SECRET GOVERNMENT TREADIES signed with them are true and we have proof. We understand there have been many BLACK OPERATIONS by certain sections of GOVERNMENT to fund the manufacturing of the technical discoveries found from actual recovered spacecraft and alien beings. It is our understanding in these BLACK OPERATIONS, that the funds obtained by years of organized DRUG SALES by High Level Government Officials, are the FUNDS channelled in to develope these projects. This would explain the reasons WHY drugs are vertually impossible to be stopped in the streets of the UNITED STATES. We DISAPPROVE HIGHTLY of this and want it to STOP NOW. YOU CAN HELP.............. Let this letter act as an OFFICIAL REQUEST for a CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION into the SECRECY of the U.F.O.s and all of the BLACK OPERATIONS surrounding them. We also want CONGRESSIONAL AMNESTY for blanket protection for the following. : * Government personel * NASA Officials ( ret. & active ) * Scientists * Astronauts * Civil Workers * Witnesses * Members of MJ-12 * C.I.A. & F.B.I. * anyone who had hands-on experience and proof. This letter needs a reply. Please reply to this letter within ten ( 10 ) working days from the reciept of this letter as to your decision. Sincerely yours, _______________________________ taxpayer & voter Return to : ________________________ ________________________ ________________________ cc ; file Esq. group file **************cut here************************ -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: Message From Sally Sheridan Date: 8 Mar 90 19:21:00 GMT >From: Sally Sheridan To: All Subject: Billy Meier Case Just a thought on the Billy Meier Case. It has always been a puzzle as to how Billy Meier could possibly have managed to operate a model AND take pictures of the model with just one arm. (He lost his left arm in a bus accident in Turkey.) When I read Gary Kinder's Light Years I noticed, on page 94 of the paperback edition, the following list of odd jobs Billy Meier had held before the accident. "He found employment as a snake catcher and a gardener, drove a nitroglycerine truck, sang in the streets, waited tables, herded pigs, sailed an oceangoing tug, sold pots, pounded nails, supervised a youth hostel, prospected for rubies and gold, posed as a veterinarian, coached, worked as a male nurse, picked grapes, designed jewelry, performed puppet shows, raised chickens, and taught German, etc." What pops out at me are: snake catcher, jewelry designer and performer of puppet shows. Do you know what these occupations have in common? A need for above average eye-hand coordination and above average manual dexterity. So, perhaps the ordinary one-armed person couldn't pull off a hoax like the one he is suspected of perpetrating, but a one-armed man who had demonstrated ABOVE average manual dexterity and eye-hand coordination is a different matter. Especially a puppeteer. Also, his left arm was severed just above the elbow leaving enough arm to, perhaps, hold a pole, a camera or some other tool. And perhaps his experience in jewelry-making could have been put to use designing other objects in metal, little flying disks, for example. Just a thought. Sally Sheridan January 14, 1990 -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************