Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 175 Thursday, March 15th 1990 Today's Topics: ParaNet Mercury Mines (none) Richard Murray & Congressional Amnesty Signals leaving earth; book publisher? Gulf Breeze and national media; Alternative-3 video tape Re: Gulf Breeze pictures -- imitations Re: Central Florida Sightings WHO'S ON THE MOON? What's New? Re: What's New? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Cyro at uucp host: 'paranet' is back up after a hard journey so here we go again. Thanks to all for not bugging me about the newsletters, I had time to catch up on you job here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: ParaNet Date: 15 Mar 90 23:29:34 GMT Sorry about the delay. ParaNet is back online in its new home in Las Vegas, Nevada. The new data number is 702-792-9773. Thanks, Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chalmers@violet.berkeley.edu (John H. Chalmers Jr.) Subject: Mercury Mines Date: 13 Mar 90 00:14:54 GMT One of the towns in the San Jose, CA area which had working mercury mines is New Almaden. I visited a closed mine there in the 1960's, looking for toxic metalliferous soil to test in a life-detection assay to be flown to Mars. Alas, another groups's experiment was flown the landers. --- John -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ddrasin@well.sf.ca.us (Dan Drasin) Subject: (none) Date: 13 Mar 90 05:24:35 GMT Meier Photos -+ From: paranet!Clark.Matthews -+ Subject: Re: (none) -+ Date: 10 Mar 90 05:26:00 GMT -+ As to the Meier case, I noticed the disparity between the earlier -+ photos and the later ones, too. But if Meier was looking to -+ establish "plausible deniability" for personal reasons (or -+ whatever) -- he succeeded beyond his wildest dreams! I'll second that. With the caveat that the actual situation has been amplified many times by rumor. I find it especially painful that much of that rumor comes in the form of proclamations by ufologists whose knowledge of the case is limited to the sketchy and inaccurate information in those godawful INTERCEP coffee-table books. -+ Nevertheless, his admitted complicity in the fakes blows the whole -+ case beyond redemption, in my opinion. Clark, as I understand it, Meier's models were intended to illustrate the *difference* between models and the real thing. I don't understand how that constitutes fakery. Meier's assertions seem to be reinforced by the fact that the models in question bore only the crudest resemblance to the "beamships" and could not in a million years have been mistaken for the "real thing." -+ Tell me, have you ever looked into the Philadelphia Experiment? I've heard sketchy accounts of it over the years, but I'm afraid I've never dug deeply enough into it to have any valid opinions. -+ From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser -+ Subject: Message From Sally Sheridan -+ Date: 8 Mar 90 23:11:00 GMT -+ This individual drives a car, smokes cigarettes, shoots long arms -+ (no pun intended) for target practice, and holds down a job as a -+ bookkeeper. Oh yes, he's married to a beautiful woman, too. -+ When I showed him the book, "UFO Contact from the Pleiades" about -+ the Meier case, he read the comment about how hard it would be for a -+ one-armed man to pull off a hoax of this sort, and just laughed out -+ loud. Jim, I think this remarkable man's opinion would carry a great deal more weight had he taken the time to educate himself about the case in depth. In my opinion, it is extremely far-fetched to think that one can have any valid opinions based purely on those coffeetable books. They are superficial and factually inaccurate. The writing and editing are abysmal. They don't begin to scratch the surface. Responsible skepticism absolutely *demands* a careful study of, and intimate familiarity with, any case under consideration. I have myself read five books about the case, will read the sixth shortly, and still don't consider myself an authority on it. My jury is still out, but doing my homework has definitely been a fascinating experience, and a wonderful exercise in keeping an open mind. Whether or not Meier could have faked the photos (which are themselves only a very small part of the "evidence") on his own, is a question that has been dismissed over and over again as largely irrelevant. When you *really* look into the case, it's crystal clear that (assuming fakery) he couldn't have done everything himself. On the other hand, there's no reason why he *couldn't* have had help -- it's just that there's no evidence for it. Nobody has ever turned up any "confederates" -- and that's where it stands at present. -+ From: Craig Cholar <3432P@navpgs.bitnet> -+ Subject: Gulf Breeze -+ Date: 11 Mar 90 01:32:04 GMT -+ I can say with almost complete certainty that the photo was of a -+ ceiling light reflected off of a glass window or patio door. How can -+ I be so certain? Because I have the EXACT same light in our living -+ room! Craig, I thought the exact same thing when I saw that photo. But before you debunk it (which sounds as if it won't take much effort), why not look into the case a little more closely to find out the context in which it was taken. Over the years I've encountered several instances (for example, the Meier model photos) in which certain pictures were not intended in the context in which they were ultimately publicized. The Gulf Breeze "craft" always seem rather dim in the other photos, so I wonder whether there might not be a dim image of a craft in the sky, (perhaps somewhere near the ceiling light reflection,) that was the original object of interest. If this were in fact the case, it wouldn't be hard to understand why the reflection (being more prominent) would have been interpreted as the "object." I'm not saying this is the case, but I think it's important to have the *original* photo (not a fuzzy TV image) in front of you when you make any evaluations of this kind, and also to have very solid, detailed information about the context in which the photo was taken. I have been intimately involved in the independent Martian Anomalies investigation for five years, and have encountered many misunderstandings based upon the viewing of poor photographic reproductions out of context. By the way, I'm reminded here of the classic dismissal of Adamski's saucer photos as being of a "chicken brooder" heat lamp unit. Everyone "knows" it's only a chicken brooder! The interesting thing is that nobody has ever produced such a brooder to compare it with. All we have is someone's assertion. The photo may well be a fake, but let's have some real evidence to that effect, and the freedom to discuss it without being steamrollered by rumors and alleged "common knowldge" pro or con. My own opinion of Adamski's photos is not high, but I have seen a variety of similar "craft" photographed under much more solid circumstances that bore a very close resemblance to his purported saucer. The bottom line? Be skeptical, but remember the original etymology of "skeptic" -- "One who looks into things." -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: isis!uunet!sparta!esanborn (Ed Sanborn) Subject: Richard Murray & Congressional Amnesty Date: 13 Mar 90 12:40:59 GMT Yes Keith, I received the same package of material. The package consists of several letters which Murray says to simply make copies of and send out. The tone of the letters is very abrasive (understandably so if his claims are correct) and full of grammatical mistakes. All that aside I would like to add the following to Keith Tolkien's update on the content of the letters. The one Keith typed in (Thanks!) is actually the last letter, from what I can see as the final "call to arms" so to speak on the issue of the alien/military base(s) issues. The first letter is a request, which can be made to Senators and Congressmen for the following documents: 1. A copy of the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. 2. THE AMMENDMENTS OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. 3. HR-5210 Passed 1989. 4. Publication : 7277 / Printed Sept. 1961 : Titled : FREEDOM FROM WAR AND INTERNAL ORDER 5. PUBLIC LAW : 87297 /Passed by the 87th Congress. 6. HR-9118 / Passed by the 87th Congress : DATED : 26 Sept. 1961. 7. SJR-42 / Passed by the 87th Congress : 1961 I have sent this request to Senator Edward Kennedy and Senator John Kerry here in Massachussetts. I have received a signed certified receipt and I await copies of the requested materials. I was meaning to wait till I received the material before I posted but I wanted to help give a more complete update on Murray's package. The letter to 'FREE JOHNATHAN MAY' I agree was poorly explained by Murray. I heard just last night that he is someone that tried to start a bank in Illinois or Nevada (?) which had a unique feature in that it was to be backed by real assets. That is, money, gold, etc. and not just a bank operated on paper. The government and/or Federal Reserve didn't like this good approach in starting a bank so they somehow through him in jail. May has served 3 of a 15 or 18 year sentence. Murray has been following it and wants people to help put a stop to what he feels is the senselessness (sp?) of this. The letter about the Federal Reserve has to do with Senator Reed in Nevada who has been calling for the auditing of The Federal Reserve. He feels as does Murray, that The Federal Reserve is involved in illegal counterfeiting and that is ruining the U.S. economy. He asked that you send the letter to your State and Local officials to express your support for Senator Reed. A curious note about the Johnathan May letter is that Murray asks that the person send it to the following address: Susan Baker c/o Yelm Natural Foods P.O. Box 498 Yelm, Washington 98597 If anyone has any info on this or any of the other issues mentioned please echo them. If I've not been completely clear on the Johnathan May details or the Senator Reed situation please be advised that I'm simply letting others know what some of my research/investigations have yielded. As always please feel free to call or email if you would like. Take care. Ed Sanborn Mass. Mufon State Director 175 Cross St. Lowell, Ma. 01854 H# (508) 453-5609 uunet!sparta!esanborn W# (508) 937-1600 x.247 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Lapp Subject: Signals leaving earth; book publisher? Date: 14 Mar 90 08:13:22 GMT -+ Subject: NASA/SETI -+ Date: 28 Feb 90 16:13:46 GMT -+ -+ IS ANYBODY OUT THERE? -+ by Michael Corbin -+ -+ [...] -+ As we continue to close the gap between worldly boundaries -+ with satellite communications -- television and radio -+ transmissions -- and all manner of electromagnetic emissions that -+ occur on Earth 24-hours per day, have you ever wondered what -+ happens to the signals? They not only reach their intended -+ destinations, but continue endlessly into the vastness of space -+ in all directions. On this point, I would like to just make one comment. From my Electrical Engineering background and some work at broadcast radio stations, I've found that contrary to popular belief, the signals from broadcast stations do not radiate in the half-sphere above the transmitter. It is inefficient to do so since radio stations are not trying to target ET markets, just terrestrial ones. So the antennae are designed so that the actual signal resembles a flattened doughnut shape where the tower is in the center of the doughnut hole. Most of the signal goes out horizontally from the transmitter, and only the side lobes (which they try to supress) are broadcast upwards into the sky. Also, many frequencies do not make it out of the ionosphere but are reflected back to earth. With that out of the way, the only point is that signals leaving the earth aren't nearly as powerful as they are under the ionosphere. However, as shown further on in this paper, if we are able to detect the signals from very weak transmitters of interplanetary satellites, than surely an intelligent life form can still amplify what signals we create enough to hear them. Now for a question: Does anyone know if a book publisher out of Clarksburg, West Virginia is still in operation. I forget the name, but most of the stuff they published was about the paranormal. There is a pretty good collection of their books in the West Virginia collection at West Virginia University Libraries in Morgantown, WV. Thanks, - tom -- internet : mvac23!thomas@udel.edu or thomas%mvac23@udel.edu uucp : {ucbvax,mcvax,psuvax1,uunet}!udel!mvac23!thomas Europe Bitnet: THOMAS1@GRATHUN1 Location: Newark, DE, USA Quote : Virtual Address eXtension. Is that like a 9-digit zip code? -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithr@tolkien.wv.tek.com Subject: Gulf Breeze and national media; Alternative-3 video tape Date: 15 Mar 90 00:28:04 GMT I have just read Walters' The Gulf Breeze Sightings. It is certainly the most convincing of any UFO percipients' books. (Note that this only includes Travis Walton's book, a bunch of 1950s and 1960s contactee books, and Walters' book, though.) At any rate, I would like to know how much *national* TV, radio, magazine, and newspaper coverage these sightings have gotten. I know about the KNBC LA TV show, and the shlockily (<- is that a word?) produced UFO Coverup: Live! show. Does anybody know about other national exposure for Gulf Breeze? Please be as specific as you can. Thanks much. A UFO researcher friend wants to know how he can get a copy of the video tape of the British produced Alternative-3 show. He has seen this on TV, I think. Also, I seem to recall that one of the authors Leslie or Watkins "confessed" that this show was a hoax. Does anyone know more about this. Thanks again. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Sandy.Barbre Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze pictures -- imitations Date: 14 Mar 90 08:21:00 GMT At a private MUFON directed meeting they showed a video of very recent photos taken at Gulf Breeze, which was done after the TV show and also after the book. I really saw nothing spectacular about the video and it's pictures of UFO's however some of the comments where OK (views) by members of mufon, a couple of writers, and newsman. -- Sandy Barbre - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Sandy.Barbre@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Sandy.Barbre Subject: Re: Central Florida Sightings Date: 14 Mar 90 08:23:00 GMT Thanks John! Missed talking with you. Have been up to my ears in moving and now that I have that settled, I'm straightening out about 200 diskettes that I have and zipping some files. -- Sandy Barbre - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Sandy.Barbre@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZAK@cu.nih.gov Subject: WHO'S ON THE MOON? Date: 15 Mar 90 16:24:26 GMT -+From: paranet!Phil.Imbrogno -+ I AM LOOKING FOR A BOOK BY FRED STECKLING"THEY DISCOVERED ALIEN BASES -+ ON THE MOON. IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE I CAN GET A COPY PLEASE CONTACT ME -+ ON THIS ECHO I have another book on apparently the same topic-- Somebody Else Is on the Moon, by George H. Leonard. My copy is a Pocket Books paperback (ISBN 0-671-81291-2), published in 1977. The book was originally published in hardback by The David McKay Co., Inc., NY, 1976. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Karen.Henderson Subject: What's New? Date: 13 Mar 90 02:42:01 GMT Anything NEW happening recently out there? Let's hear it! -- Karen Henderson - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Karen.Henderson@f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Tim.Hamewka Subject: Re: What's New? Date: 14 Mar 90 20:26:49 GMT I just read an interesting article in UFO Magazine. It seems that one of the latest rumors is that the Hudson Valley UFO is actually the real Stealth aircraft. The one they have showing off is a ploy. 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