Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 185 Monday, March 26th 1990 Today's Topics: Re: Ufos Re: Gulf Breeze Re: Gulf Breeze Re: _confrontations_ Re: For Your Info Re: Klass Re: Science Fiction Come True Message From Don Ecker Re: Signals Leaving Earth; Book Publisher? Re: Richard Murray information packet Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter Re: Strange flash of light Re: School? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Re: Ufos Date: 24 Mar 90 23:23:00 GMT > They believed that UFOs were our government's own secret > planes. I > believe that like I believe the stealth story! I didn't > plumb their > religious beliefs. They seemed pretty secure and narrow- > minded in them. > Besides, it was a family gathering, and I didn't want to > start > something I couldn't finish! Yes. That can lead to serious conflicts! I am very familiar with this. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Date: 24 Mar 90 23:31:00 GMT > I think the > remark the Mr. Maccabee made to you about the above > mentioned photo does cast some serious doubt on the > situation, however. Another thing which I think is being overlooked here is *what* Maccabee actually stated about the photographs. He was very careful in not coming right out and stating that the pictures are of a UFO, but instead he pre-qualifies this with the statement that in his opinion, and based upon *available* information, he cannot find any ability on Ed's part to have been able to hoax those photographs, although he does state that the photographs could be hoaxed and that they have the quality of "Hollywood" about them. From this, and only this, he draws his conclusion that Ed's pictures are of a TRUFO. I am recalling this from memory although I have a copy of Maccabee's original paper regarding the analysis of the videotape of the UFO. I will endeavor to find that report and provide a more accurate rendition of Maccabee's statements regarding this. Bottom line....Maccabee leaves a very large chasm between his professional opinion of the authenticity of Ed's pictures and the scientific validity of the data as I could find no real body of scientific data to support such a blatant claim of proof of the UFO's existence. Suffice it to say that Maccabee is quite credible and competent, and we are not implying that Maccabee is anything but professional, but I am at a total loss as to how Maccabee arrived at the conclusions that he did regarding the photographs. I have yet to have a lengthy conversation with him on this subject and am planning on doing so in the very near future. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Date: 24 Mar 90 23:36:00 GMT > The Ufo was seen, but not publically discussed until Ed's > encounter. I don't know if what he has is fame or not, but > it sure has been great P.R. The biggest mistake made by > everyone is that they have been so tied up with Ed. that a > lot of good stories have been missed. Just a few nights ago > when the large white lights were seen in North Ala. a man > got video of it. When he and his wife went inside to run > it back and look at it, his house trailer started shaking > all the wat down to the foundation. When they went outside > a white sphere was sitting 3' over his roof. The phones > went as well as other things. He was scared to hysteria. > They asked me what I thought, and I said if I was him I > wouldn't take any more pictures. What is your source of information, Ray? Perhaps I have missed something in the months of knowing you, but are you an investigator for one of the UFO groups such as MUFON? Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Clark.Matthews Subject: Re: _confrontations_ Date: 24 Mar 90 19:48:00 GMT You're welcome! Best, Clark PS -- Enjoy! -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Clark.Matthews Subject: Re: For Your Info Date: 24 Mar 90 19:57:00 GMT > I think he told me it was the FRENCH National Science > Academy. Makes sense! I thought my memory was more or less correct -- but I couldn't imagine that Vallee succeeded in interesting the US Academy of Science in a UFO study when all others have failed! So my message looked wrong from the moment I typed it! BTW, talked with John Keel last night about UFOlogy in France and he says that the French gov't gave up on its own (secret) UFO research in disgust. Instead, the enlightened French now provide DIRECT GRANTS to UFO study groups to evaluate present & past sightings. The real surprise in this? Many French researchers have now become very skeptical of some of the best-known cases of the the 1950's and 60's. I mean, more skeptical than the French Air Force folks! All this according to Keel. He gave a funny -- but too short & nonspecific -- talk on MIBs at the Gramercy Hotel here in NY. But he seems very discouraged by the present state of UFOlogy. Well, gotta go. I actually packed up the videocassette & will mail it tomorrow! Will wonders never cease! Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Clark.Matthews Subject: Re: Klass Date: 24 Mar 90 20:02:00 GMT > Klass....hope you don't take offense. That's just my > personal feelings on the man, I just don't think he's quite > in the "spook" league. No problem Jim. There are, after all, bush-league spooks, too. Then again, there's Carl Sagan. Heh-heh-heh. Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!Clark.Matthews Subject: Re: Science Fiction Come True Date: 24 Mar 90 20:22:00 GMT Hi Gene. Long time, no type! I'll be mailing copies of the Harris paper out, soon, by the way. The article from AI Expert sounds like worthwhile reading! As to implants, the technology to do them is really here now, although it would involve some pretty sophisticated microsurgery. We already have VLSI chip technologies that could allow remote control of (theoretically) a million ganglions from a single CMOS chip. What's more, the many non-volitile semiconductor materials now in use would allow the creation of a biological ROM chip -- nerves could be triggered automatically, in sequence, whenever required. This has very interesting implications, of course. Not the least of which: Such an implant could be attached across the Vegas nerves and literally turn someone's heart on or off. Or it could be attached across the optic nerves and trigger blindness or the miraculous restoration of sight! Today's chips are still rather large, of course -- even submicron CMOS VLSI chips like those of the IBM workstations are about 1" square. Moreover, many of the nonvolitile chips must utilize arsenides, so they would quite literally be poisonous. But I'm sure we're working on the problems... Best, Clark (Ain't materials science wunnerful?!) -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: Message From Don Ecker Date: 24 Mar 90 22:56:00 GMT To All CIS and ParaNet members: This file is uploaded exactly as I received it. The file came to me unsigned and in the proverbial brown paper envelope. The text was postmarked from Canada, and it had no return address. In the file you will see reference two photo's that were included. What these were: a xerox of an aerial photo of the Carp, Ontario region and a very poor xerox of what was supposed to be an alien. No detail was observed. Just a poor shot of what appeared to be a "Grey". All in all, this is extremely "suspect" and the only reason that I uploaded it was that there had been much comment regarding it, not only here but on ParaNet. So: read it at your own risk. Don Ecker ***************************************************************** The Alledged C/R of the 11/89 "Alien Starfighter" Canadian and American Security Agencies are engaged in a conspiracy of silence, to withhold from the world the alien vessel seized in the swamps of Corkery Road, Carp, in 1989. UFO sightings in the Ontario region had intensified in the 1980's, specifically, around nuclear power generating stations. On Nov. 4, 1989 at 20:00 hrs Canadian Defense Dept. radars picked up a globe shaped object travelling at phenomenal speed over Carp, Ontario. The UFO abruptly stopped, and dropped like a stone. Canadian and American Security Agencies were immediately notified of the landing. Monitoring satellites traced the movements of the aliens to a triangular area. (see aerial map) off Almonte and Corkery Roads. The ship had landed in deep swamp near Corkery Road. Two AH-64 Apaches and a UH-60 Blackhawk headed for the area the following night. The helicopters carried full weapon loads. They were part of a covert American unit that specialized in the recovery of alien craft. Flying low over Ontario pine trees the Apache attack choppers soon spotted a glowing, blue, 20 metre in diameter sphere. As targeting lasers locked-on, both gunships unleashed their full weapon loads of 8 missiles each. All 16 were exploded in proximity bursts 10 metres downwind from the ship. The missiles were carrying VEXXON, a deadly neuroactive gas which kills on contact. Exposed to air the gas breaks down quickly into inert components. Immediately after having completed their mission the gunships turned around, and headed back across the border. Now the Blackhawk landed, as men exploded from its open doors. In seconds the six man strike team had entered the UFO through a 7 metre hatchless, oval portal. No resistance was encountered. At the controls, 3 dead crewman were found. With the ship captured, the US Air Force, Pentagon, and Office of Naval Intelligence were notified. Through the night a special team of technicians had shut-down and disassembled the sphere. Early the next morning Nov. 6, 1989 construction equipment and trucks were brought into the swamp. The UFO parts were transported to a secret facility in Kanata, Ontario. As a cover story the locals were informed that a road was being built through the swamp. No smokescreen was needed for the military activity as Canadian forces regularly train in the Carp region. Officially nothing unusual was reported in the area. Although someone anonymously turned in a 35mm roll of film. It was received by the National Research Council of Canada, in Ottawa. The film contained several clear shots of an entity holding a light. (see photo) At this time the photographer is still unidentified. The humanoids were packed in ice and sent to an isolation chamber at the Univ. of Ottawa. CIA physiologists performed the autopsies. The reptilian, fetus-headed beings, were listed as CLASS 1 NTE's. (Non Terrestrial Entities) Like others recovered in previous operations, they were muscular, grey-white skinned, humanoids. The ship was partially reassembled at the underground facility in Kanata. Unlike previous recoveries this one is pure military. Built as a "Starfighter" it is heavily armed and armored. In design no rivets, bolts, or welds were used in fastening, yet when reconstructed there are no seams. The UFO itself is made up of a matrixed dielectric magnesium alloy. It is driven by pulsed electromagnetic fields generated by a cold fusion reactor. All offensive capabilities utilize independently targeting electronic beam weapons. In the cargo hold were found ordnance racks containing fifty Soviet nuclear warheads. Their purpose was revealed by advanced tactical/combat computers located in the flight deck. Threatened by recent East-West relations, and the revolutionary movements within itself, Red China is preparing for the final ideological war. The aliens have agreed to defend China from the free world's combined military and nuclear forces. At this time China is arming the Middle East with their own nuclear arsenals, in order that they can successfully take on Israel. Unifying the Arabs under one Chinese command was simple, especially with Israel's recent "iron fist" attitude toward occupied territories. The Soviet warheads found in the UFO were destined for Syria. CIA operatives in the Middle East have noticed huge movements of Chinese "technicians" and "advisors". China is also supplying the Arabs with bacteriological agents, Migs, Hind gunships, tanks, and missile launchers. The use of "Soviet" instead of "Chinese" nukes is part of a disinformation campaign to break up East-West relations after the annihilation of Israel. The Warheads were hijacked from Soviet subs in the Dragon's Triangle. A section of alien controlled Pacific once frequented by Russian subs. After losing some 900 high yield warheads and 13 vessels, commanders were ordered to steer clear of the area. The most important alien-tech. find were the 2 milimetre, spheroid, brain implants. Surgical inserted through the nasal orifice the individual can be fully monitored and controlled. The CIA and Canadian Govt have actively supported mind-slave experiments for years. Currently the Univ. of Ottawa is involved in ELF wave mind control programs. A continuation of the CIA psychological warfare project known as MKULTRA, started at the Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal. Using ELF signals transmitted at the same wavelength the human brain uses, the researchers could subliminally control the test subject. The alien implants utilize the same principles except that the whole unit is subminiaturized and contained in the brain. Fortunately the implants can be detected by magnetic resolution scanning technology. All individuals implanted by the aliens are classified as ZOMBIES. The ZOMBIES have been programmed to help overthrow Mankind in the near future. When China finishes with Israel it will invade Europe. At the same time Chinese spacebased bacteriological weapons will be launched at the Arctic. The winds will carry the diseases into Russia and North America. In days 100's of millions will be dead, survivors will have to deal with Chinese, aliens, and the ZOMBIES. The aliens want all out war so that human resistance would be minimal, when they invade. They tried this same tactic once before with Nazi Germany. Most of the scientific advances we have today came from German science which was based on alien technology. Had Hitler won the war, the earth would have become a concentration camp.In order to depopulate the continents for the aliens. Data aboard the sphere explained why the aliens are so comfortable on our world. They preceded man on the evolutionary scale by millions of years; created with the dinosaurs. Some 675 million years ago an interdimensional war destroyed most of their civilization, and forced them to leave the earth. Now they have chosen to reclaim what was once theirs. The alien forces with their Chinese and Arab allies will attack within the next 5 years. Waiting longer than that would make it impossible even for the aliens to reverse the ecological damage inflicted on the Earth by Man. ***************************************************************** -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Linda.Murphy Subject: Re: Signals Leaving Earth; Book Publisher? Date: 23 Mar 90 23:17:00 GMT Re: "The Boat" Interesting. But you said it had a banner that showed it sailed the Pacific. How then, Africa? Unles of course they took the "long way" around. Was the boat moved and ported to the Atlantic? Still more questions, as I guess you can gather. I am wondering if you might be able to help me out with a little of my own investigation on this matter. I will send details via net to Alpha. If it is, it is. If it ain't then it just ain't. (Good english, eh?). Yeah, that post was pretty interesting. WHat was the name of that file you mentioned that you had? Was hoping to get a look-see at it. Tom did have the knack of posting unusual things. He once casually posted a msg about a Sandia Employee who went bonkers up in Toronto (made news and all) and holed up in a room with a gun. I wanted to persue it but he felt it was "not related". I am doing fine. Just trying to "resist" the "rough weather" out there. And recouperating from the ups & downs of sysopship. I got an interesting packet in the mail a couple of weeks ago, and have been going through the material. I might get around to doing a file sometime in the future. -- Linda Murphy - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Murphy@f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Linda.Murphy Subject: Re: Richard Murray information packet Date: 23 Mar 90 23:48:00 GMT Re: Robert Anton Wilson, Cosmic Triggers, and LIBERTY Hi Don... I see you have access to the LIBERTY also. I wonder if you have read the following? Libernet Msg: Mandella states that Jews have no place in South Africa. [link] Leathel Weapon II (happened to rent it same night Mandella was released). A strong statement for a movie. [link] Benevolent Space Brethern are responsible for "World Peace" efforts, and bringing the Wall in Berlin down. Libernet Msg: Timothy Leary to speak at the NY Libertarian gathering. The topic is: "How Libertarians Helped to Bring Down the Berlin Wall." Timothy Leary ala "Star Seed" (ever read "Cosmic Trigger"?) Who arrested Timothy Leary?. Feb. of 1989 Liddy and Timothy Leary were on a TV show together. Great companions (or as the person said, who told me about it "What an odd "couple"). Read Jim SPeiser's interview with John Lear. He has an interesting comment to make about the picture he saw that has an autograph on it. To really stimulate some thoughts, if you can find the book, read Bowart's account of Leary and the CIA trail that followed. (Operation Mind Control). Amazing. I had read Bowarts book a LONG time prior to knowing about the Matrix. Matrix material touches on the very things covered in the Bowart book. Ask Bill English what he thinks of the Libertarians. Interesting response. Just a little additional thought. In Cosmic Trigger, Wilson gives us a "cosmic message" which he says that Leary had decided to apply to himself. That message? LEAR-23-666-333. Well, who knows... maybe it is just "synchronicity" and nothing else. And now -- onto the next fable! -- Linda Murphy - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Murphy@f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Linda.Murphy Subject: Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter Date: 24 Mar 90 00:10:00 GMT To John Chalmers About Klass. There is a great issue of OMNI magazine that you might find interesting. The entire issue is devoted to "Science and Censorship. (February 1987). THere is an article in the "Continuum" by Jerome Clark about CSICOP and some interesting statements about Phill Klass. The article states that not long after the formation of this group, CSICOP went and complained to the FCC about an NBC Documentary that treated paranormal phenomena more "sympathetic then the debunkers" liked. Althought CSICOP alleged that the point of view the documentary represented was harmful to the public, the FCC, unimpressed, refused to act. To direct quote the article: "In one strange indicent CSICOP official Philip J. Klass, learning of a forum of anomalies research that the University of Nebraska was sponsoring, called the school to protest that CSICOP's views were not being represented, and that, moreover, in questioning the United States government's word on the nonexistence of UFOs, speakers at the conference were seeking "what the Soviet Union does -- to convey to the public that our government cannot be trusted, that it lies, that it falsifies.... As a patriotic American I very much resnt [this]." After Klass threatened legal action against the university, it canceled its sponsorhip of future conferences of this kind. Klass withdrew the threat and pronounced himself satisfied with the university's action." Clark then adds: "Since then satellite groups of debunkers have prolifierated all around the country, determined to do battle with "pseudoscience" real and imagined. Not content simply to argue the issues on their merits, they have harassed colleges and universities in dropping (unusally noncredit) courses in paraphychology, conducted vituperative campaigns against anomaly proponents, and done -- in the words of Philadelphian Drew Endacott, on of their number -- "anything short of criminal activity" to get "the point across to people who have no demonstrated facility to reason." I only ask one thing: What determins the facility of reasoning? -- Linda Murphy - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Murphy@f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f20.n3607.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jerry.Woody Subject: Re: Strange flash of light Date: 24 Mar 90 07:02:00 GMT -> Well, I was wondering when Tennessee would turn up in -> Anyway......the reason I checked in today was to ->mention that I came across more messages regarding St Pat's ->bolide. It has turned up on three different boards.....so ->far......I'm hoping there will be more posts.............. Hello Gregg; I hear some witnesses observed a large orange ball of light for about 30 seconds in Tennessee. It went behind some trees, there was a bright flash of light and a dull boom. I don't know if it's connected or not but Ray Griffin wrote me about some people in N. Alabama observing a couple of balls of orange lights and a light show. Jerry -- Jerry Woody - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jerry.Woody@f20.n3607.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Sandy.Barbre Subject: Re: School? Date: 23 Mar 90 12:34:01 GMT Interestingly enough I am very much interested in physics!!! So where's the scoop?!!! -- Sandy Barbre - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Sandy.Barbre@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************