Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 208 Friday, April 20th 1990 Today's Topics: Re: Well (Jim Delton) Helicopter incident Chron something or other ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Gross Subject: Re: Well (Jim Delton) Date: 19 Apr 90 16:02:48 GMT Hey, Jim, Ol'Salt, Our satellite and other detection gear is tuned to pick up man-made objects, namely ballistic missiles and aircraft. The systems could be tuned to detect almost anything, but the thinking was that anything moving faster than a ballistic missile must be something from outer space--and we have no interest in them, do we!? We have detected UFOs on radar in the atmosphere on a number of occasions. In fact, we've clocked objects moving at speeds far in excess of anything our aircraft are capable of. However, as I understand it, the radar that makes up our early warning system is "tuned" only to detect objects that are man-made. Not being a radar expert myself, I am not sure how this is done. But a friend of mine who has worked on radar says that it is fairly easy to do today with computers controlling the radars. So, again, we have a problem. Sort of the old absence of evidence is not evidence of absence routine. We are detecting nothing mainly because we set it up that way. The we is very generic, please. Gene_O -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: asuvax!mcdphx!xroads!gmz@ncar.UCAR.EDU (Gerry Zeitlin) Subject: Helicopter incident Date: 20 Apr 90 03:58:14 GMT To Michael Schwartz et al.. I often hear of people going to the FAA with these low-flying aircraft incidents; nobody ever seems to try the National Transportation Safety Board, which is specifically concerned with unsafe practices. I'm not saying you'll get any better treatment out of them, but at least NTSB is a different organization from FAA, and is actually often found to be in an adversary relationship with them. Couldn't hurt. On another level, I have to wonder what anybody hopes to gain by going to an agency of the government which is doing so many of these things to us, to report what they are doing. Now I'm not saying that every bureaucrat who picks up the phone has been thoroughly briefed about UFO, crash/retrieval programs, etc., and knows consciously that these things are being covered up. But I would expect that each of these people has been told what to do about these incidents, and what they are told to do is not going to give the individual citizen any real satisfaction. =gerry -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Gross Subject: Chron something or other ;-) Date: 20 Apr 90 22:01:07 GMT Gary: I hear what you are saying, but tell me how we can try to examine and explain things without referencing out current knowledge and state of technology first? Also, I think that the use of metaphors helps to explain things to others without the education to otherwise understand. For example, try to explain quantum theory to people who do not have the math and physics background. You'll find yourself resorting to metaphors like the brain is like a computer type of metaphor. How can we explain or investigate things based on knowledge or a state of technology that doesn't yet exist? Nonetheless, you have some interesting ideas. Gene ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************ 'paranet' the fido site where some of the articles come has not been heard from since my last mailing. I expect to hear from Mike soon but know his GrandFather died and he was not the Los Wages type. I will keep you posted. -Cyro *******************************************************************************