Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 210 Friday, April 27th 1990 Today's Topics: Gasoline Ally UFO Theme; new movie; Alien Seed Flap in progress? Re: Paranet alpha ParaNet Flap in progress? Re: Questions from a beginner... Chronocentricity Flap in Belgium? Flap in Belgium? Stealth Corvette? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithr@tolkien.wv.tek.com Subject: Gasoline Ally UFO Theme; new movie; Alien Seed Date: 26 Apr 90 20:18:48 GMT ------- Forwarded Message I'm following with some interest the current Gasoline Alley comic strip. To my knowledge, the current UFO sighting theme started 4-11-90. Walt, middle-aged husband of Phyllis, says he saw a saucer. She, disbelieving, tries to talk him out of it. He decides to go for a walk to visit Skeezix, his son. Today, Walt visits Skeezix at the gas station where his son works. Walt says to a derisive, "Were there any little green men?", that they had little heads and giant bodies. This reminds us of the Russian Voronezh sighting and a Kansas or Oklahoma sighting of about the same time, right? I wonder where the cartoonist will take this theme? Do any of you know of any comic strips that treated the UFO in a series over some days, developing the theme? This can't be a first, right? There are, of course, countless one panel gags about UFOs, and Hynek was famous for his collection of them. But is this the first comic strip series to treat the UFO? *************** Report on new movie: Alien Seed. Released 1989. I.P. Associates(?) Not distributed in theaters apparently. I found a copy of the video tape only at a 7-11 convenience store. No regular independent or chain video stores in my area had the movie. Stars Erik Estrada and nobody else famous. Produced, directed, etc., by a small Colorado-based company. I think Estrada served as a co-producer. Most of the principals served more than one role. I would guestimate the budget was less than a million. PLOT. A pregnant abductee is shot by a renegade, former MJ-12 operative. An abduction researcher arrives too late to interview her, but learns that her sister has also been abducted and impregnated. The rest of the movie concerns their flight from the murderous renegade MJ-12 operative and two equally murderous, regular MJ-12 thugs. At one point the UFO researcher explains MJ-12 to the sister abductee. This two minute explanation did not deviate significantly from the Moore/Friedman/Maccabbee plausible scenario of MJ-12. This means that the writer is fully cognizant of the UFO literature about MJ-12 speculation. The MJ-12 thugs wanted to kill the pregnant abductee because they feared the alien baby would disrupt the world social and economic order. In the end, all the MJ-12 thugs were killed by the abductee after they got the UFO researcher. So, the message is that the alien baby would live to do its work. EVALUATION. The acting was bad. The special effects were bad. The car chase scenes went on too long. The only thing recommending this movie is the very explicit use of UFO lore. There was a minimum of traditional science fiction/fantasy mixed in with straight UFO information in this movie. I can get more exact information if people want it. It would be interesting to know how this movie came to be made. Why it is distributed in such a limited way. How the writer came to be so well acquainted with the latest MJ-12 information. To my knowledge, MJ-12 was made public in the summer of 1987 in Washington, D.C. at the MUFON conference, right? This movie must have been a year in the writing and making right? So, the writer only had a year to decide to make the movie. Got any thoughts? Keith -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Flap in progress? Date: 24 Apr 90 06:58:00 GMT > Pennsylvania huh? I feel sort of left out. I never see or read of > anything happening in PA. > You might try getting in touch with Stan Gordon, head of PASU. He used to log into Alpha once in a blue moon. I'll get you his number in a minute. [1 minute later] OK, its 1-412-838-7768. Tell him I said hi, and to get his butt online. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f26.n123.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Komar Subject: Re: Paranet alpha Date: 25 Apr 90 08:19:00 GMT In a message to John Komar <04-23-90 10:05> Tim Hamewka wrote: TH=>I was just told by another sysop in town that Mr. Corbin TH=>has moved back TH=>to Colorado and the line will be up in a week or two. No, Mike's alive and well in Los Angeles. I've just talked to him and he'll be back on soon. John -- John Komar - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Komar@f26.n123.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder Subject: ParaNet Date: 26 Apr 90 03:04:27 GMT My sympathies to you about your grandfather and I'm sorry to hear of your run of bad luck. I'll hope things work out for the better for you in California. As far as temporarily hubbing echos it was no problem. We're all part of the same family. -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder Subject: Flap in progress? Date: 26 Apr 90 03:35:57 GMT In a message of <23 Apr 90 23:58:00>, Jim Speiser (1:114/37) writes: >You might try getting in touch with Stan Gordon, head of PASU. He used to >log into Alpha once in a blue moon. I'll get you his number in a minute. >OK, its 1-412-838-7768. Tell him I said hi, and to get his butt online. I called and left a message on his answering maching and gave him your message about getting his butt online (I hope he has a sense of humor). Maybe we can convince him to get a computer/modem setup (?) PS - Did you know that he's also the State director for MUFON? -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Brennan Subject: Re: Questions from a beginner... Date: 26 Apr 90 06:17:00 GMT Mike, you might want to check out two books on the subject. CLEAR INTENT (I've forgotten the authors) and ABOVE TOP SECRET by Timothy Good. Above Top Secret seems to be the best of the two, though at times it seems a little incredible. I think one thing that hurts the book are some references taken from the National Enquirer. But it is still good nonetheless and raises some good points. -- John Brennan - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Brennan@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly Subject: Chronocentricity Date: 14 Apr 90 16:03:00 GMT Hi Gary That was a long but highly perceptive message on chronocentricity, ie our tendency to explain phenomena we don't understand in terms of our most recent technology. The explanation of the brain is certainly badly presented, since as you say, it is now seen as just a big mega-computer. Our modern super-computers are now big enough to exhibit some sign of self-awareness or consciousness of the kind we see in lower animals such as insects or slugs. Yet we know that the insEct responds in ways which prove its sense of consciousness (fear, aggression etc.) wheras the biggest computer behaves exactly like what it is - a dumb machine. Clearly the brain cannot be described in terms analogous to a digital computer. I have always wondered what it is that separates animate life from inanimate life. Is it merely the complexity of the connections etc., or are living molecules responding to a subtle force of nature which acts, or is detectable at, only the molecular level (somewhat similar to the weak nuclear force), a force or influence which we could call the `life force', for want of a better term. If such a force existed, it would explain why our supercomputers cannot respond to it, wheras a slug or even a sperm cell can do so with ease. It would also explain why life evolved from the smallest unit (DNA molecule) upwards, and not from the largest downwards (as our computers have done with the evolution from valves to transistors to chips). Life has another puzzle too. Life began perhaps 1,000 million years ago on Earth, and evolved to result in the present range of life forms including us - according to orthodox science. The problem I have with that theory is that 1,000 million is nowhere near long enough to achieve present life forms on the basis of random life forms. The complexity of the human brain is mind-boggling, and it was created by a series of mutational accidents over 1,000 million years? I think 100,000 million years at least would be needed for this. Unless... there is a force or influence which accelerates the process. If a life force literally `forces' evolution along, then 1,000 million years becomes feasible. Once again, a very interesting message you posted. Regards John Daly Tasmania -- John Daly - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Daly@f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f8.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Bill.Chalker Subject: Flap in Belgium? Date: 19 Apr 90 05:32:00 GMT > Has anyone got any info on the UFO flap in Belgium? I heard a A friend told me that a few days ago he could the tail end of a TV item that carried a movie footage from Belgium. My friend who has looked at a lot of UFO footages over the years described it as looking like the typical effect one gets of a defocused image of say Venus, only difference being that this one for a change was apparently a daylight footage. He wasn't very impressed. Thats all I know. Regards from down under. -- Bill Chalker - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bill.Chalker@f8.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f8.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Bill.Chalker Subject: Flap in Belgium? Date: 21 Apr 90 04:08:00 GMT > Has anyone got any info on the UFO flap in Belgium? I heard a Further to my earlier comments about the Belgian film, the following item appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald, April 19, 1990: "Belgian Air Force has been on alert for 3 nights running. 2 aircraft equipped with IR cameras and electronic sensors have been patrolling the skies. Down below, the Belgian police has kept a constant watch, helped by more than 1,000 concerned civilians. Along the border with Germany, 20 lookout posts have been set up. Their target: a UFO. Since December, there have been 800 reported sightings, which are being earnestly examined by the Belgian Society for Studying Spacial Phenomena. In the Easter operation, the world's TV crews camped out on a chilly Ardennes airfield to get the first pictures. But the event made rather poor viewing. Several times the UFO was "seen" from the ground, but each time the aircraft got there too late. Scientists on the ground appear to have produced an image of the object. It is a triangle 30 metres to 50 metres in diameter, with red, green and white lights at the corners, 10 times brighter than any star. It has a convex underbelly and makes a whistling noise." Sounds like it could be rather interesting. Anybody else out there have anymore information. -- Bill Chalker - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bill.Chalker@f8.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Stealth Corvette? Date: 27 Apr 90 01:18:59 GMT I posted this to paranet shortly before it went down, so here's a reposting, with the assumption that it never made it to begin with. --------------------------------------------------------------------- A friend of mine just recently showed me the May, 1990 issue of Car and Driver magazine. On page 125 is an article entitled "Stealth Corvette". It's not a joke. The gist of the article is about a man, "Bob" (not his real name), who modified a 1986 Corvette to make it "invisible" to conventional detection methods such as radar. "Bob" is doing this in Nevada. Allow me to quote a few lines from the closing paragraphs..... "Bob is a tinkerer..." "Bob would like to listen for extraterrestrial perpetrators..." "That's not a pipe dream--not for Bob." "Nobody's been able to get into Groom Lake, a supersecret military base in Nevada also known as Area 51, Site S4. Bob says, "They have nine UFO's kept up there". Well, there probably isn't any significance to this article. Some possibilities: a.) "Bob" is someone who really has the Corvette, and knows about Lazar's story. As a sort of joke, he chose the name "Bob" for the interview with Car and Driver. b.) "Bob" really is Robert Lazar.....Naaah! c.) "Bob" and his "Stealth" Corvette is simply another piece of disinformation to throw us off-track. Just thought you might find this interesting. 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