Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 212 Wednesday, May 2nd 1990 Today's Topics: Flap in progress? Re: Sonic booms & UFO's 1990 National UFO Conference 1990 National UFO Conference Sonic Booms & UFOs Belgium Flap Belgian sightings news article Re: Paranet Newsletter 211 Re: Another Movie UFO plot Re: Another Movie UFO plot Re: Sonic booms & UFO's Paranet Newsletter 206 George Knapp/KLAS/Robert Lazar Knapp/Lazar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Flap in progress? Date: 28 Apr 90 06:39:00 GMT > what areas of Tennessee are involved? Not sure, will check this weekend. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Delton Subject: Re: Sonic booms & UFO's Date: 28 Apr 90 07:28:00 GMT I thought I read that the stealth was sub-sonic. I would not be suprised if there was some sort of problem being "stealthy" at speeds near or beyond the speed of sound simply due to the shock wave pattern that begins to set up at those speeds. Very possibly, that wave itself may be detectable with appropriate radar. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: 1990 National UFO Conference Date: 29 Apr 90 05:13:00 GMT HERE IS the skinny on NUFOC '90, for those interested. ******************************************************* James W. Moseley & Timothy Green Beckley present the 1990 National UFO Conference - Miami Beach, FL REVEALED: THE "INSIDE STORY" OF THE GULF BREEZE INCIDENT Featuring Ed & Frances Walters & a Dozen Experts Date: May 11-13, 1990 Place: Holiday Inn Oceanside (2201 Collins Ave.) Miami Beach, FL Tentative Schedule (Subject to Change) FRIDAY EVENING ______________ 7-9 PM Welcoming social and no host bar 9:30 PM Join Ed & Frances in a "sky watch" on the beach. SATURDAY & SUNDAY (Times to be announced) _________________ Ed & Frances Walters - THE CLOSE ENCOUNTERS THAT CHANGED THEIR LIVES Ed and his wife will discuss the varied effects the sightings have had on their lives and how they have coped with their experiences. Ed's story will be told in detail in the book "The Gulf Breeze Sightings - The Most Astounding Multiple Sightings in US History," published by Morrow. A TV mini-series is also scheduled to be shown in 1991 on ABC. Bruce Maccabee - THE PHOTOS AS EVIDENCE Optics expert Maccabee has studied dozens of photos Ed has produced and declared them the best UFO pictures ever. He will reveal how fakery has been ruled out. Bob Reid - THE OTHER WITNESSES Investigator Bob Reid will talk on the UFO flap in the Gulf Breeze area right up to the present moment. William Nash - MY AERIAL ENCOUNTER WITH UFOS The retired Pan Am pilot made history when in July, 1952, over Virginia, he witnessed a formation of 5 objects that appeared to change direction instantly. Antonio Huneeus - UFOS IN RUSSIA & EASTERN EUROPE A globe-trotting Ufologist who divides his time between New York and South America, Huneeus will give two slide presentations. His photo collection is unsurpassed. Plus... Prof. Bill Trantham - UFOS & LIFE BEYOND EARTH Bonnie Tynes - FLYING SAUCERS IN THE NEW AGE Virgilio Sanchez-Ocejo - REPORT FROM SOUTH AMERICA Gypse Graves - PSYCHIC ARCHAEOLOGY Sue Wallace - A HEALING PHILOSOPHY Carol Lynn Grant - MIND QUEST POSSIBLE SPECIAL GUEST: MR. CHARLES BERLITZ TICKETS AND LODGING: ____________________ Tickets are available at the special rate of $40 in advance for the entire conference. Individual session tickets will be sold at the door. Room rates: $68 per double. Holiday Inn Oceanside: 305-534-1511. LAST MINUTE ADDITIONS: Howard Menger - FROM OUTER SPACE TO YOU Dr. Berthold Schwarz - PSYCHIC ASPECTS OF UFOS ********************* If anyone from ParaNet is attending, we may be able to arrange one or two press passes. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Hicks Subject: 1990 National UFO Conference Date: 29 Apr 90 19:53:00 GMT I'm planning to go. I'll try for an interview with Walters and/or Maccabee and, of course, some sort of press credentials would help. I don't think my expired Brevard County press card would work. ;-) I'll try for interviews regardless. I'm going to contace Mike McLeod of the Orlando Sentinel. He wrote the first article on Gulf Breeze which appeared in the Florida Magazine a couple of years ago, and the recent followup. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Roger Black Subject: Sonic Booms & UFOs Date: 1 May 90 19:50:21 GMT I am neither an engineer nor a physicist, but I have read that it is possible to suppress sonic booms (as well as reduce drag) in at least two ways: (1) use a porous wing that sucks air in along the wing surface and vents it out the back; (2) emit microwaves along the wing surface to break up the laminar flow of the air. I have also been told that the USAF has sponsored a lot of MHD and plasma research that somehow relates to this problem. Unfortunately, I lack the technical credentials to evaluate all this, and for all I know it could be pure BS. If anybody knows for sure, I would be glad to hear it. Speculation: I am told that the F-117A (i.e., the Stealth fighter) is subsonic. Could this be a cover story for the fact that even when flying supersonic it doesn't generate a sonic boom? -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Roger Black Subject: Belgium Flap Date: 1 May 90 19:51:05 GMT The flying triangle in Belgium sounds very similar to the "Night Siege" vehicle that haunted New York during the early 1980s. Same size, same shape, same lights, perhaps even the same sound. It was speculated then that this was some kind of advanced military surveillance vehicle being tested at the (alleged) NSA testing facilities in upstate New York. If so, perhaps they've decided to try it out in Europe and see how well it fares against foreign (but still non-hostile) militaries. Better to lose one over Belgium than the USSR ... -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keithr@tolkien.wv.tek.com Subject: Belgian sightings news article Date: 2 May 90 00:55:01 GMT I got the following news article via a friend of a friend at a major newspaper in our area. This friend of a friend was asked to search the news article database that daily news is culled from for the newspaper. This article was not printed in the newspaper. Incidentally, newspapers will frequently edit material they get from these databases before they print it. Usually, this simply means lopping off the end of the story just to make things fit the layout. Jim Speiser, can you comment more about this? Some computer services, like CompuServe, are offering more and more databases to their customers just like the database this story was found in. I haven't checked out the CompuServe news database yet -- because of the expense -- but I am thinking about it. Lucius Farish's UFO Newsclipping Service (Route 1, Box 220, Plumer- ville, Arkansas 72127 USA) does a very good job of rounding up important UFO news stories in the US and also includes stories from Canada, Australia, and the UK. The following article came from the Financial Times news database. The Financial Times is a daily, international, London-based newspaper. -+From the DIALOG Database Catalog 1990: "The FT, one of the world's most respected newspapers, provides in-depth information on industries, companies, and markets around the world." ******************************************** FLYING TRIANGLE HAS BELGIANS GOING ROUND IN CIRCLES By Lucy Kellaway in Brussels APRIL 17 THE BELGIAN air force has been on alert for three nights running, writes Lucy Kellaway. Two Hawker Siddeley aircraft equipped with infra-red cameras and sophisticated electronic sensors have been patrolling the skies. Down below, the Belgian police force has kept a constant watch, helped by more than 1,000 concerned civilians. Along the border with Germany, 20 lookout posts have been set up. Their target: an Unidentified Flying Object. Since December, there have been 800 reported sightings, and even though some resemble a lamp-post more closely than a UFO, many of the others are being earnestly examined by SOBEPS, the Belgian Society for Studying Spacial Phenomena. More surprising is how seriously the army is taking the whole thing. For the time being it says it is viewing the matter as a "technical curiosity" as the intruder has shown no aggressive signs. Should it turn nasty, it will be a different matter altogether. The Easter operation was meant to be a world first, a confrontation between earth-bound defence forces and a UFO. The world's television crews camped out on a chilly Ardennes airfield to get the first pictures. But the event made rather poor viewing. Several times the UFO was "seen" from the ground, but each time the aircraft got there too late, in one case missing the mystery intruder by just three minutes. To make matters worse, the cloud was [sic] low, the weather changeable, and the UFO tended to hover just above the rooftops, too low to be confronted by an aircraft. The pilots, sworn to secrecy until the Defence Ministry has had time to watch the video evidence, seemed to have little to report, and could not confirm rumours of all kinds of irregular blips on their radars. Far from declaring the operation a failure, the UFO-obsessed Belgian media appear more convinced than ever that there is something odd hovering over the peaceful countryside of Wallonia. Scientists on the ground appear in the past few days to have produced a clear image of the objects, which is said to correspond to the reports of eyewitnesses. It is a triangle 30m-50m in diameter, with red, green and white lights at the corners, 10 times brighter than any star. It has a convex underbelly and makes a sharp whistling noise. Belgium may not quite yet have found its UFO. But it has found a nice new use for its air force now that its services are needed less and less by earthlings. FINANCIAL TIMES ***************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alex@atherton.com (Alex Leavens) Subject: Re: Paranet Newsletter 211 Date: 2 May 90 17:17:33 GMT Regarding Sonic Booms... There's been a fair bit of research done on avoiding sonic booms; most of it, unfortunately, is classified, so we can't get at it. However, a few interesting things are known--most of them have to do with imparting a failry (er, that's _fairly_) serious electrical charge to the object (The reason much of this is classified is because it has applicability to missile nose-cones (ie nuclear warheads) during the re-entry phase of flight). The principal here seems to be that if you impart a charge to the object in the proper fashion, you can get the air molecules ahead of the object to 'move out of the way' on their own accord. So basically you're creating a hole in the air in advance of the object (be it missile nose cone or whatever) getting there; since the actual object is never running into air and shoving it aside at some huge rate, you don't get a sonic boom. (The NSA is hereby encouraged to point out any defects in my summarization, ) Regarding the Nevada Aerial Research Newsletter... I'm not even going to try to summarize what's in it; it's just too weird. If you're interested, you can pick up copies of the current issue from Arcturus Book Service, (404)-297-4624 (note, I have no connection with Arcturus other than as a satisified customer). --alex -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kim J. Trull" Subject: Re: Another Movie UFO plot Date: 2 May 90 18:05:57 GMT Sorry, but I forgot to mention in my last note, regarding the TV movie Thomas Lapp was describing, that the reason the hermit was "feeding" animal and body parts into the "warp" in the tunnel was because this somehow kept him from aging. BTW, he discovered the warp while digging for gold in the tunnel. The warp and the alien ship are tied together, as if the warp allowed the ship to remain in contact with this world while it was "waiting" to return -- suggested by a star chart left behind years ago which indicated when it would return. KJ -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kim J. Trull" Subject: Re: Another Movie UFO plot Date: 2 May 90 18:07:00 GMT Recently, Thomas Lapp said: (Sorry, I missed the very beginning of the film, so I don't know the circumstances of how things started in the first place). -------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember the movie very well, although I don't remember the title either. The major actors were Cybil Shepard and Jan Michael Vincent. The beginning of the film, which Tom missed, was important to understanding the end. It started with a yound Cybil and her father stopping at a gas station in this small, New Mexico town. While "Dad" was inside, the little girl saw a little boy about the same age across the street from her. They were the only ones outside. Suddenly, a large ship drops from the sky and they are engulfed in a bright light. After just a few moments, the ship goes away, and the two kids run to say what happened. The girl and her father drive away, him not believing her. The boy grows up and is never believed either. IN later years, the girl, now a geologist returns to the town (not realizeing it's the same one) to investigate a "magnetic field" or some such anomoly that showed up on some remote sensing photos. The boy is now a sheriff/deputy who is investigating the mutilations. IN a scene, Cybil goes to Jan's house, sees all of his bookshelves lined with books about UFOs, they get to talking, and suddenly, realize that they were the two children years ago. At the end, as Tom described, the laser light wanted harm Cybil, nor will it harm Jan, and they are "taken up" by the light again, and we get vague scenes that suggest they were "observed." It's as if the aliens were doing a follow-up exam on subjects they tested years before (thus the protection). BTW, the movie release was '89, although I don't remember a more exact date. KJ -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Karen.Henderson Subject: Re: Sonic booms & UFO's Date: 2 May 90 04:40:49 GMT Your theory about sonic boom causes sounds good to me! -- Karen Henderson - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Karen.Henderson@f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: Paranet Newsletter 206 Date: 2 May 90 17:16:00 GMT > From: poole@convex.com (Ricky Poole) > > > Could you please forward the 3 * interview file to me I > seem to have > lost part of it. It is on its way. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: George Knapp/KLAS/Robert Lazar Date: 2 May 90 17:20:00 GMT Last evening saw yet another UFO special being aired on KLAS-TV Channel 8 in Las Vegas. I received word that something will be breaking on the Robert Lazar matter and will be revealed by Knapp on his special in the very near future. Knapp plans on running his special at least through this week. I will keep you abreast of developments as they happen. BTW, ParaNet got a big plug on the special. I did not see it yet, but Knapp interviewed me while I was in Las Vegas. It shows me operating the computer and doing my thing with the network. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: Knapp/Lazar Date: 2 May 90 17:49:00 GMT Below is a file that I prepared in Las Vegas on April 17. Due to the move it did not get posted on a timely basis. --------------------------------------------------------------- (1816) Tue 17 Apr 90 12:01a By: Michael Corbin To: All Re: William Cooper and CAJI BBS St: ----------------------------------------------------------------- ParaNet received a message downloaded from Bill Cooper's so called Citizen's Agency for Joint Intelligence BBS as uploaded by a ParaNet subscriber detailing yet more information which appears to be in the style of Bill Cooper -- Inaccurate and highly unreliable, bordering on fantasy. What follows is merely a reprint of a message taken from Cooper's CAJI Newsletter on his BBS. Cooper material follows: CAJI NEWSLETTER Information, not money, is the power of the ninetys. *********************************************************************** Bob Lazar Exposed - Arrested FLASH!!!! Las Vegas Bob Lazar, self claimed physicist who worked on saucers, arrested today for participation in one of Las Vegas' largest prostitution rings. He was also accused of running a drug lab which manufactures methamphetamine. Lazar was supposedly involved in a scheme with John Lear to penetrate the Top Secret base in the Nevada Test Site where the government has stored flying saucers. The truth is that he is a member of a ring of government agents that includes some of the so called greats of UFOlogy, William Moore, Jaime Shandera, Stanton Friedman, Bruce Maccabee, John Lear, and several others. Their goal is to put out disinformation, test the reaction of the public to an alien presence, discredit those who tell the truth, spy on researchers and whistle blowers, and collect names to update the CIA's list of abductees and contactees. (See identity of "Condor" below.) ******************************************************************** Stacey Borland Murdered Recently, Stacey Borland, the leader of a Las Vegas contactee group sponsored a talk by Budd Hopkins at a library in Las Vegas. It is rumored that a man who worked in the top secret area known as "DREAMLAND" approached Stacey and gave her some documents. The next day it was reported that Stacey and her brother were found dead in her Las Vegas apartment. They had both been stabbed many times and blood was all over the walls and floors. As if that were not enough, Stacey was set afire and burned horribly. The apartment did not catch fire. Odd, don't you think? The list of members of the contactee group and the sign-in sheet from the Hopkins event are reported missing. John Grace, aka Val Valarian, aka Mr. Wilson (in shadow with voice disguised in a video entitled "Top Secret Coverup") moved right in and took over leadership of the contactee group. John Grace is the co-author along with John Lear of "The Matrix" and authored "The Secret Treaty". John Grace is also the director of the "Nevada Aerial Research Society". A "Capt. Grace" is mentioned in the "Aquarius Telex" that was leaked by the confessed agent William Moore. John Grace is an active duty agent of the Counter Intelligence Division of the Air Force Office of Special Investigation. He has been seen wearing an Air Force officers uniform bearing the rank of Captain, an Army officers uniform, and an Air Force enlisted mans uniform with the rank of Staff Sargeant. He attends most all UFO conferences and always wears a name badge with an alias printed on it such as "Klark Kent", the badge he wore at the 89 MUFON symposium . It is reported that as the new leader of the contactee group he is categorizing the members into groups as to their degree of alien encounter. He is compiling lists labeled "CONFIDENTIAL" and the forms have been reported to look like official military or government forms. You heard it first on The CITIZEN'S AGENCY For JOINT INTELLIGENCE. ********************************************************************** ... Cooper material ends. While this material is highly sensational, ParaNet did some follow-up with KLAS-TV's George Knapp in Las Vegas. George prepared a statement in response to this material which follows: 11:24 AM PST April 16, 1990 To: Mike Corbin ParaNet >From: George Knapp KLAS-TV Dear Mike, I have just received a copy of the excerpts from Bill Cooper's newsletter and I must say I am not surprised in the least by the content. It is filled with distortions, exaggerations, and half truths for which Cooper has become so famous. Cooper claims that Bob Lazar was arrested in connection with a large prostitution ring and that he is also accused of running a drug lab. Bob Lazar has not been arrested for anything. On April 12, Lazar appeared on our news program and admitted that he had been involved in a small prostitution operation because he needed the money. His participation included the setting up of computerized accounting systems and certain security equipment. Following the televised and open admission, the prostitution setup was shut down by Las Vegas police. Whether or not Lazar will face any charges because of his admission remains up to the police, but as of today, no charges have been filed and Lazar has not been arrested. And there is absolutely no indication from the police or anyone else that Lazar has ever been involved with drugs. Cooper also states that Lazar is part of a secret ring of government agents, including Bill Moore, Stan Friedman, John Lear and others who are out to discredit the people who tell the "truth." Bill Cooper wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass. Anyone who knows any of the people mentioned above knows that such a secret organization is highly unlikely. Moore and Lear can't stand each other. Moore and Friedman have tried to contact Lazar thru me on several occasions but Lazar has been reluctant to meet them or to provide them with information on his background. What these people have in common is that they all know that Bill Cooper is a liar and a fraud. Some of the individuals have provided me with proof of Cooper's dishonesty, proof that will be made public in the near future. Thus it behooves Cooper to go ahead and try to discredit them before the information is released. In fact, anyone who disagrees with hsi ridiculous claims is automatically labeled a government agent. It is a strategy worthy of Joe McCarthy. But soon enough, Cooper's tactics and falsehoods will become very obvious, even to his most ardent supporters. The same newsletter that distorted the Lazar story also befouls the reputation of a kind woman, the late Stacey Borland. According to Cooper, Borland and her Las Vegas contactee group arranged for Budd Hopkins to lecture at a local library. Borland was supposedly given some documents at that lecture and the next day was found murdered. Stacey Borland was murdered, that much is true, but the crime occured three weeks before Budd Hopkins came to town. The lecture wasn't arranged by a contactee group, it was set up by the Library District. The disinformation from Cooper seems designed to discredit John Grace, who was appointed to take over the contactee group following the murder. Grace is an odd character, but it seems very unlikely that his is a murderer in the employ of the government. The reason Cooper wants Grace discredited is that Grace is a close associate of John Lear's and thus knows much about Cooper's lies and distortions. In fact, Cooper got his start in the UFO field with the help of Lear and Grace and has spent a great deal of time with both men. I have been at Lear's house and have heard the threats from Cooper regarding the possible publication of Cooper's fiction. Bill Cooper does not want Lear, Grace, Lazar, Moore, or Friedman to be believed by anyone, because they all know that he is a phony. Soon, others will know as well. The Lazar matter is painful and perhaps embarrassing, but it is not over. Perhaps he will eventually face charges, it hasn't happened yet. His full and public admission about his activities prior to the police involvement should be considered by those who would judge him. END KNAPP LETTER ----------------------------------------------------------------- As I mentioned earlier, Knapp has begun his sequel to "UFOs: The Best Evidence" airing on KLAS-TV Channel 8. In our conversation yesterday, George told me that something would be coming out on Lazar. I will keep the network posted on this information as it becomes available. As Knapp mentions in his letter, the Lazar matter has embarrassed him. Perhaps the tide is about to turn. 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