Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 214 Saturday, May 5th 1990 Today's Topics: Magnetic grid? Magnetic Grid? Astrophysicist Re: Magnetic grid? Re: Sonic Booms & UFOs Re: Knapp/Lazar MS sighting Knapp/lazar Magnetic grid? Astrophysicist Billy Meir Re: Paranet Newsletter 209 Re: Sonic Booms & UFOs Magnetic Grid? Bill Cooper's Downfall Magnetic Grid Aliens from the Plieades ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder Subject: Magnetic grid? Date: 4 May 90 04:55:24 GMT In a message of <02 May 90 22:45:00>, Jim Speiser (1:114/37) writes: >As far as I know, a dipolar magnet does not create a grid, but rather >lines of flux, resembling a segment of an ellipse, flowing in one >direction (South to North, right gang?) This is what I was trying to describe. >There was a theory put forth some time ago by a French Ufologist named >Aimee Michel, that there IS some kind of magnetic grid surrounding the >earth ("UFOs and the Straight Line Theory"), but I never read the book >and consequently can't really comment. It was based on his observation >that UFO sightings tend to cluster around certain parallels. I have never >noticed this clustering, and I tend to think his data selection was >probably biased. (There I go, commenting when I haven't read it!) I'll have to keep a watch for this book. What you're saying regarding his observations is something I've been thinking about. If a map showing these "lines of flux" as you put it, were fixed in position it might be interesting to see if there are more UFO's reported along these lines than outside of them. -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder Subject: Magnetic Grid? Date: 4 May 90 04:37:36 GMT In a message of <03 May 90 13:15:00>, Michael Corbin (1:209/0) writes: >Could you go into more detail as to your interest? Maybe someone here >could go into this subject. Actually I was just speculating as to a UFO's means of propulsion. IF a UFO used some sort of a magnetic drive, then there MAY be more UFO's reported along these magnetic lines. These lines might act as highway since the magnetic fields would be stronger; outside of the lines would be a weaker field and therefore slower travel. How would this be possible? I don't know but (and still speculating) if a disk could apply a charge to the bottom that was opposite of the Earth's charge, it would ascend. It if then applied a negative charge to it's nose, it would be attracted north. The stronger the charge, the faster the travel. I'm not sure why I've been thinking about the type of travel of UFO's, but they have been reported to make almost right-angle turns, as if they're grabbing onto something, and I've not read of a sonic boom being reported even though they seem to travel at super sonic speeds. Basically I'm attempting to learn more by learning what they don't do (if that makes any sense). -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder Subject: Astrophysicist Date: 4 May 90 05:02:09 GMT Today, while driving to work I was listening to the car radio. The DJ who was on was doing a Dial-A-Date comedy segment. A man calls up and is interviewed by his prospective date who asks him what type of work he does. He claims to be an astrophysicist. He also says that most of his time is spent at the telescope and that most of his work involves classified work for the Gov't. I'd like to know what you think this classified work might entail? What's out there to be observed that must remain classified? Are there enough classified "things" out there that would take up the bulk of a person's time? -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Delton Subject: Re: Magnetic grid? Date: 3 May 90 16:56:00 GMT I don't see any reason to expect the earth to have a magnetic grid. Often you see a "grid" on drawings as a way to represent the pattern of the magnetic field, but that is the same as weather maps that show isobar lines. Its just a way to draw a picture, it doesn't mean there really are little lines of pressure spread out in a grid structure. What is likely is that the magnetic field has local areas of slightly higher and lower strengths due to various geological anomolies, faults, etc, in the earth, but not in any regular pattern other then a pattern from, say, a range of mountains that is high in iron ore content and similar types of things. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Delton Subject: Re: Sonic Booms & UFOs Date: 3 May 90 17:00:00 GMT If the UFO's are surrounded by some sort of "field" as many have speculated, it is also easy to speculate that the "field" has the side benefit of eliminating sonic booms as was explained by someone in regard to rocket nosecones having a strong charge, or whatever to help in reducing heat build up. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Burke Subject: Re: Knapp/Lazar Date: 3 May 90 22:57:00 GMT Hi Mike! What was the poop from Coop' about the identity of Condor? -- John -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: MS sighting Date: 4 May 90 02:51:00 GMT We have a very preliminary report of a couple of sightings in a small town in Mississippi called Pontotoe, which is supposed to be an hour and a half from Memphis. Supposedly involves at least one police officer and some videotape. A major UFO publication will pay gas expenses. Any takers? Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Knapp/lazar Date: 4 May 90 04:21:00 GMT > > Knapp has capitalized on this in his reporting. He makes mention of the > fact that his first special was an award-winning special, but he does > not go into details as to who awarded him. Kinda reminds me of Linda > Moulton Howe's award-winning 'Strange Harvest,' although hers was an > Emmy, right? It was a Denver Emmy, not a NATAS Emmy, as I recall. -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Magnetic grid? Date: 4 May 90 04:22:00 GMT > I'll have to keep a watch for this book. What you're saying regarding > his observations is something I've been thinking about. If a map showing > these "lines of flux" as you put it, were fixed in position it might be > interesting to see if there are more UFO's reported along these lines > than outside of them. It would, indeed, and I didn't mean to throw cold water on the idea. Its worth looking into, as long as you don't unconsciously skew your data. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Astrophysicist Date: 4 May 90 04:24:00 GMT > Today, while driving to work I was listening to the car radio. The DJ > who was on was doing a Dial-A-Date comedy segment. A man calls up and is > interviewed by his prospective date who asks him what type of work he > does. He claims to be an astrophysicist. He also says that most of his > time is spent at the telescope and that most of his work involves > classified work for the Gov't. > > I'd like to know what you think this classified work might entail? > What's out there to be observed that must remain classified? Are there > enough classified "things" out there that would take up the bulk of a > person's time? Hmmm....interesting question! -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Tim.Hamewka Subject: Billy Meir Date: 3 May 90 20:20:55 GMT Maybe I missed something, but from what I've heard, they've pretty much dismissed the Meir case as a hoax, and the only evidence I've heard against him is that they found some carved models of the saucers at his home. Is that it? I've seen a vidio of some of his 8mm footage and a most of it looked pretty convincing to me. -- Tim Hamewka - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Tim.Hamewka@f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Daniel.Wisnosky Subject: Re: Paranet Newsletter 209 Date: 3 May 90 22:37:07 GMT n> Does anyone know how to get a hold of Goodman? This may be a long s I've been trying to get ahold of Billy Goodman for a couple of weeks myself, the only thing I've come up with was a man named William Goodman who was quite sick of calls from people asking if he was THE Billy Goodman from KVEG. -- Daniel Wisnosky - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Daniel.Wisnosky@f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Daniel.Wisnosky Subject: Re: Sonic Booms & UFOs Date: 3 May 90 22:55:54 GMT JS> even for Earth vehicles. Why would the ufonauts bother? A sonic boom w JS> establish their presence any more than any of the other evidence that' JS> collected. Well, possibly convienience? If we lived in a society that was more technically advanced than ours, and we had many veichles that were used by most of the population that were supersonic, wouldn't it make sense that we would want technology that would keep us from having a sonic boom every 2 minutes? If so, probably all our veichles would have this technology, even ones being sent to another planet. Just some speculation, Dan -- Daniel Wisnosky - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Daniel.Wisnosky@f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: Magnetic Grid? Date: 4 May 90 19:14:00 GMT On that note, I must echo what Jim Speiser suggested on the book by Aimee' Michel. This book is an older book, so you might want to check into the used stores. If you can't find a copy and want one, let me know. I can get it from the store in Denver. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: Bill Cooper's Downfall Date: 5 May 90 05:14:00 GMT As if the UFO field was not in enough trouble, George Knapp of KLAS-TV in Las Vegas put the icing on the cake with the exposure of Bill Cooper as a "phoney" and a "fraud." Tonight saw the continuing saga of "UFOs: The Best Evidence" as George Knapp featured Bill Moore, John Lear and a host of others who have had contact with Bill Cooper, and whom all state that Cooper has been making up all the story of aliens eating people, underground bases and the whole paranoid gamut of trash that has flooded the UFO community in recent times. In a startling revelation, John Lear admitted that he "and another person" had dreamed up the O.H. Krill material and name and that Bill Cooper was aware of this despite Cooper's insistence that he had also seen the material while onboard the PacFleet vessel in the early 1970s. According to Lear and Moore, Cooper has taken material from several sources and has blended it into his famous document long ago denounced by ParaNet shortly after it made its appearance on our network. According to Moore, Cooper's original document consisted of only a few pages. Now, his document is over 28 pages long and covers everything from the Kennedy assassination conspiracy to the trilateral commission takeover of the world at the hands of the aliens. As if that was not enough, KLAS featured a phone answering machine tape where Bill Cooper called John Lear's home and stated that anyone who went against him would be "crucified." Cooper made certain threats to John Lear for discrediting him and ended the call with the statement, "I hope you have a nice flight." Cooper's tone of voice implied that the statement was meant as a threat against John Lear for making public statements against Cooper. This leaves a very sour taste in the mouths of literally thousands of "Cooper-ites," -- those loyal followers of Bill Cooper who have gravitated toward extremists beliefs and comes on the heels of Billy Goodman's firing at KVEG radio for featuring Cooper on his program wherein Cooper lashed out at the radio station for moving Goodman's program from 10 P.M. to 1:00 A.M. to midnight to 3:00 A.M. More to follow... Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Gross Subject: Magnetic Grid Date: 5 May 90 16:56:51 GMT Hi Paul: The Earth creates a tremendous magnetic field--in fact as I recall my readings, the Earth's magnetic field is extremely intense for a planet this size (on the order of .5 gauss). However, unlike the magnets that you and I buy in the store, the Earth's field is a very dynamic field. It is very possible that the field builds up eddies here and there. Based on this, some have postulated that the Devil's Triangle (and other similar areas around the globe) are merely massive eddies that come and go. But little research has been done that I know of. I heard a couple of folks talking about the magnetic field in relation to observed polarization of light around UFOs. They said that to achieve that polarization would require a magnetic field on the order of 2000 gauss! Not being a physicist, I can't confirm nor deny such statements, but I tend to be a wee bit skeptical. 2000 gauss is one intense magnetic field. Remember that the Earth's field measures only .5 gauss and that is enough to keep out a lot of the radiation that would scour this planet clean of all lifeforms in short order. Much of that radiation comes from the Sun carried on the solar winds. Jim mentions that a French UFOlogist has discovered a grid, and Mike seems to confirm that. I can't comment on that because I haven't come across this in my personal readings. I'll see if I can find a copy of the book that Jim mentions. One thing to keep in mind though is that many of the reported physical reactions to being in close proximity to a UFO match the same reactions reported when exposed to very intense magnetic fields. Certainly something to think about. Gene -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: elec@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Doug Renner) Subject: Aliens from the Plieades Date: 5 May 90 22:00:27 GMT The film, "UFO's are real" has a segment that deals briefly with this case, and I have seen the volumes of alien communications advertised in certain new-age publications, at a cost of over $100... The swiss farmer, Billy Meier, had photographed over a dozen different types of alien craft operating in swiss airspace. Some of the craft were smaller unmanned drones that were specifically for collecting environmental data. One type of craft reportedly contained equipment enabling it to make direct point-to-point jumps to any point in the universe. (The photo of this craft was televised several years ago; it was saucer shaped with three black rectangular formations extending radially from above the dome.) He also had photographs of the occupants, which looked human in every detail. The content of the communications was that the Pleiadians and the Human Race share a common ancestor; that the contactee is a direct Human-Pleiadian descendant; that they are concerned for us, their 'younger brothers' because our technical potentials have exceeded our spiritual ability to handle the informaton. 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