Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 227 Monday, May 21st 1990 Today's Topics: Re: GB Circle Something Interesting to Try Meier Controlled Orbital Mass Religious thread Re: BIBLICAL ACCOUNTS NEW INFO ET echo/M Corbin/ and stuff.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG!steve.rose Subject: Re: GB Circle Date: 17 May 90 16:43:52 GMT > have to wonder why anyone would feel they need to remain > anonymous for finding a circle in the grass when they are > living in a community where hundreds of people aren't shy > about reporting lights in the sky. Unless they have > something to hide perhaps. Wouldn't be surprised. They've been "hiding" Gulf Breeze for decades! ;-) -- steve rose - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: steve.rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Forseti Subject: Something Interesting to Try Date: 17 May 90 17:13:39 GMT Try reading Robert Monroe's "Journeys Out Of the Body", "Far Journeys" and his soon to be released "Infinite Journeys"... It might be something more interesting than the other stuff you have dealt with.... Its up to you. -- Forseti - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Forseti@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f222.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jerry.Seward Subject: Meier Date: 18 May 90 15:45:00 GMT > Re: Meier: > > Ok, I'll concede this and this only: If someone has the immense > amount of time and patience it would take to investigate the > Meier case up one side and down the other, and are not dissuaded > by the probability of coming up empty-handed (read: no important > new discoveries), then by all means they should do so. I don't > have the time, and furthermore I don't know too many people in > this hectic day and age that do. I concur. Wendelle Stevens was my guest for dinner last Friday here in Rochester. He had "answers" for many of the controversial elements of the Meier case, however I'm still not convinced of its total authenticity. I remain open-minded and will continue to study all aspects of the case. But quite frankly, there are many local cases that show much more promise and interest than does this 'old rerun.' -- Jerry Seward - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jerry.Seward@f222.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Thomas.Lett Subject: Controlled Orbital Mass Date: 19 May 90 16:32:55 GMT Kurt, Thanks for the response! I've been working on this concept of using what I really consider a "space sail" since october of 1980. It's really very simple. A set of rings, at least 60 meters in diameter, rotating at or above orbital velocity, could be controlled to do work under the same 'physics' we use to determine elliptical orbits. The practical applications allow for space vehicles that could use inexpensive electrical power, slow/safe speeds in atmospheres, reusable hardware, the ability to exert a continuous accerleration on a 'platform' mass. | *-*------tan. velocity The idea is to "throw" a mass into R | * orbit and using it pull another "platform" | | * path mass with it. This could be done | by the use of rings, rotating in @ @ * opposite directions. @ I will give you more information @ field @ -- Thomas Lett - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Thomas.Lett@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Doug.Rogers Subject: Religious thread Date: 19 May 90 20:38:51 GMT By this time you will have read Dan's reply to the points you raise. Allow me to nip this in the bud. You are certainly welcome to hold any and all religious beliefs that you please. You are free to make whatever connections you wish to attempt between the UFO experience and your religious viewpoints. You are *NOT* free to represent these opinions as established fact (they are not), and were it I, I would be extremely hesitant to make the sorts of sweeping statements about other groups (i.e. the Jewish people) that Dan has responded to. The moment that your postings begin to take a turn towards saving souls and gathering the flock, I will suggest to you, (in the strongest terms available) that you take those ideas to one of the many other echos established for the spreading of the xian faith. These are scientific echos for the persuit of rational inquiry. If you can make a good case for a religious connection, please do so. If not, let's remember that the puropose of Paranet is the study of the paranormal, not the study of what various religious groups do or do not believe. Doug Rogers Echo Moderator -- Doug Rogers - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Doug.Rogers@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Doug.Rogers Subject: Re: BIBLICAL ACCOUNTS Date: 19 May 90 21:12:48 GMT Thanks for the moderate tone of your reply to Greg Clawson. You might want to read the note I've just posted to him. I would hope that you, and the remainder of the group here, will continue to be rational in our search. I will not allow this echo to become a religious battleground. We are not here to study religion, and, in the final analysis, there is NO WAY to settle a religious dispute. For that reason, I would hope that we would all attempt to make our religious connections (if any) to the UFO issue in as scholarly manner as possible. Again, thank you for your tempered response. I hope you will not have to make another such, as I hope Greg will either qualify or moderate his position. Doug Rogers Echo Moderator -- Doug Rogers - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Doug.Rogers@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Tim.Hamewka Subject: NEW INFO Date: 19 May 90 19:02:06 GMT I'm getting ready to start on the newsletter for our local UFO group and I'm in dire need of some up-to-date information. If anyone has any current info on any UFO sightings, especially the one in Belguim, please leave me a message. Thank you -- Tim Hamewka - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Tim.Hamewka@f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 23bmsdo@sacemnet.af.mil (David Winters) Subject: ET echo/M Corbin/ and stuff.. Date: 21 May 90 05:19:21 GMT --------ET echo I think that the ET echo died about the same time as UFOnet. I stopped getting it at about that time.....around March. --------M Corbin What do you do for a living and how would I get a resume' from you? Do you want this known? --------T.s.Bennett He is the type of person that thrives on the attention that you give him by giving him "warnings" and excluding him from your net. The best way is to let him ramble on until he runs out of steam and ignore him. -------Things that bump in the night ATTENTION all you conspiracy freaks!!! We should be hearing something in the public media soon about the F-22/23 that is rumored to be in testing at Nellis AFB. So get those imaginations cranked up and lets see if we can come up with some really bizaar stories to explain how Alien technology created these new aerospace vechicles. Maybe they are made out of the magic element 115 that Lazar speaks about? Maybe they can go supersonic and not make a boom? Or they use hidden magnetic grids controlled by a alien command post in Dulce? What other tricks can the all powerful evil minds of your local government have hidden in Area 51? So watch a couple of episodes of Twilight Zone and put forth your most wack'o story......your might even become famous and be interviewed by Hard Copy. Enjoy, David Winters ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************