Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 229 Thursday, May 24th 1990 Today's Topics: Something of Interest Magnetic Grid Re: Magnetic grid? Devil's Tower GB Circle Re: GB Circle Paranet feed Skeptics UFO Newsletter Lear as Condor Public Service Announcement Re: GB Circle Re: Lear as Condor (to Jim Speiser) Et Echo/m Corbin/ And Stuff.. Field circles here... Thanks for the good wishes and positive vibes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Doug.Rogers Subject: Something of Interest Date: 20 May 90 19:16:13 GMT New Element Discovered at NRC Research Centre ============================================= The heaviest element known to science was recently discovered by physicists at the NRC Research Centre. The element, tentatively named Administratium, has no protons, 125 assistant neutrons, 75 vice neutrons, and 111 assistant vice neutrons. This gives it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together in a nucleus by a force that involves the continuous exchange of meson-like particles called morons. Since it has no electrons, Administratium is inert. However, it can be detected chemically as it impedes every reaction it comes in contact with. According to the discoverers, a minute amount of Administratium caused one reaction to take over four days to complete, when it would normally occur in less than one second. Administratium has a normal half life of approximately 3 years, at which time it does not actually decay, but instead, undergoes a reorganization in which assistant neutrons, vice neutrons, and assistant vice neutrons exchange places. Some studies have shown that the atomic weight actually increases after each reorganization. Research at other laboratories indicates that Administratium occurs naturally in the atmosphere. It tends to concentrate at certain points, such as government agencies, large corporations, universities, and NRC, and can actually be found in the newest, best maintained buildings. Scientists point out that Administratium is known to be toxic at any level of concentration and can easily destroy any productive reactions where it is allowed to accumulate. Attempts are being made to determine how Administratium can be controlled to prevent irreversible damage, but results to date are not promising. (Reprinted from CRESS Bulletin, York University, Jan. 24, 1990.) ============== I figured we needed to lighten up just a bit... Doug -- Doug Rogers - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Doug.Rogers@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f8.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Bill.Chalker Subject: Magnetic Grid Date: 18 May 90 05:43:00 GMT The French ufologist you are referring to is Aime Michell. See his book "Flying Saucers & the Straight Line Mystery" (1958) which describes his theory of orthoteny. This idea of sighting congregation along "great circles" etc held favour for some years then with Vallee's refutation in "Challenge to Science" (1967). Anyway the idea was never really a grid theory as such. The main propenent of that idea was New Zealand researcher Bruce Cathie in his books "Harmonic 33" (1968), "Harmonic 695" (1971), "Pulse of the Universe - Harmonic 288" (1977), and "The Bridge to Infinity - Harmonic 371244" (1983). One of my university majors was Pure Mathematics, and at the time I was friendly with the daughter one of the maths lecturers. Some of us in the class did a detailed mathematical review of the Cathie theory and found it wanting. There were a number of errors. However ignoring those thought the theory in essence revolves around harmonic mathematical "numerology", without any substantial physical basis. An interesting idea but one with a dubious physical basis. In fairness to Cathie he corrected a lot of the mathematical errors when paperback editions appeared of his books but this still did not address the fatal problem of his harmonic numerological manipulations which immediately divorced his work from any connection with physical reality. His theory had and still does have a lot of followers but on his theoretical exposition to date he fails to convince me. Anyway his whole theory was based on a magnetic grid concept, ie that UFOs were busily going around maintaining a magnetic navigation grid around the earth. Cathie can tell you exactly where its all at. His book touches on such wonders as "the harmonics of the Philadelphia experiment" (which does nothing to add to the spurious nature of the latter). It will be interesting to see if there are any Cathie-ites out there! -- Bill Chalker - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bill.Chalker@f8.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Kay.Schaney Subject: Re: Magnetic grid? Date: 20 May 90 15:23:00 GMT Paul, Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. These addresses are from "The Map Catalog" 1986 Tildon Press. Here are some addresses; U.S. Geological Survey Maps USGS Public Inquiries Office 503 National Center Room 1-C-402 12201 Sunrise Valley Drive Reston, VA 22092 703-860-6167 State Map Agencies in Pennsylvania Archives: Historical and Museum Commission P.O. Box 1026 Harrisburg, PA 17108 717-787-3051 Aviation: Bureau of Aviation Department of Transportation Capital City Airport New Cumberland PA 17070 717-787-5574 Geology; Department of Environmental resources Bureau of Topographic and Geological Survey 913 Executive House 101 South 2nd Street Harrisburg PA 17120 717-787-5574 Good Luck with your research, Kay -- Kay Schaney - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kay.Schaney@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f24.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jeff.Ballard Subject: Devil's Tower Date: 20 May 90 22:35:00 GMT The son of a friend of mine is working this summer at the Devil's Tower National Monument in Wyoming. Can anyone fill me in on the lore concerning this area (UFO and other)? -- Jeff Ballard - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jeff.Ballard@f24.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Hicks Subject: GB Circle Date: 20 May 90 17:54:00 GMT > The circle DOES appear to be very similar to the English cases, > for which I have not seen a decent explanation. But something > tells me that a little intensive investigation will provide the > "aha!" link. Unfortunately, no one seems to have the time nor > the resources to conduct such an investigation. Photos of the two circles show them to be incredibly similar to the English circles. That is, swirled, definite edges and no apparent plant damage that I could see in the photos. The Salisbury's (MUFON folks) said that both circles were found shortly after skyquakes were felt. Speaking of skyquakes, I lived about 200 miles east of Pensacola/Gulf Breeze from 1980 to 1984, and occasionally things in the house would shake and rattle for no apparent reason. No ground shaking was felt, and there was no sound. Folks assumed this was due to sonic booms too far away to really be heard. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Hicks Subject: Re: GB Circle Date: 20 May 90 17:58:01 GMT > Never one to stay away from limbs, I'll go out on another one in > regard to the GB circle. I read the article in the MUFON. I > found it odd, to say the least, that not one of the many > "investigators" made any mention of taking samples both in and > outside of the circle, for microscopic analysis of the grass to > see if there was any animal fur or feathers on any of it. Good point, but according to the photos I saw, (which included a person for scale) these circles are larger than I'd expect from animals. Maybe 10 feet in diameter. I can say for sure they're not alligator nests, though, in case that comes up. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Hicks Subject: Paranet feed Date: 20 May 90 18:08:02 GMT My Paranet feed went brain-dead about a week ago, so I may have missed some mail. If there was anything important, please repost. Shortly I'll present a bit of information which is the result of quite a bit of time spent talking with Ed Walters, Frances Walters and Bruce Maccabee. To put it simply, it puts the Gulf Breeze sightings in a somewhat different perspective. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Skeptics UFO Newsletter Date: 22 May 90 07:01:00 GMT Arch-skeptic Philip Klass has come out with his own self-published newsletter, entitled "Skeptics UFO Newsletter," or SUN. The newsletter is a series of brief (2 or three paragraph) updates on several hot UFO fronts, followed by the usual pointed Klassic barbs. Issue #3 runs 8 pages. Its quite informative, but as can be expected, quite biased. Among the major touche's: Ed Walters' has been taking pictures of UFOs again, this time with a new 35mm SLR camera. These, however, have turned out to be nothing more than red blobs of light. Worse yet, there is every chance that the objects depicted are flares carried aloft by balloons. Klass cites witnesses who called the TV station and reported seeing the balloons through binoculars. Further, photoanalysis shows the objects to be no more than a foot in diameter. CSICOP has challenged Ed and his wife Frances to seek a Congressional investigation into the Gulf Breeze sightings. In a letter of March 30th, CSICOP told Walters that if his story is true, "they should promptly seek the aid of elected officials responsible for the safety and well-being of the American public." Klass complains, however, that Ed has not responded to the letter. I somehow doubt that he will respond; however, I don't doubt that Walters might seek such an investigation, if challenged by someone other than Klass and CSICOP. Ed has made it a point to completely ignore Klass; and his confidence in his own "case" - be it true belief or pure hubris - is legendary. One important fact that has been glossed over in the past but that Klass brings out is that Walters' claim that he turned down the National Enquirer is NOT true - THEY turned HIM down, after JPL's Robert Nathan cast doubt on the photographs. True to form, Klass takes a rather mean swipe at Whitley Strieber, asking rhetorically if he is "suffering depression as a result of the critical reception accorded his movie and most recent book [Majestic]." And he falls flat on his face in criticizing the recent presentation at the National Science Teachers Conference by a panel of distinguished Ufologists. He cites the titles of the four papers presented: "Using the UFO Subject to Spark Students' Interest" (Marge Christensen) "Using Anomalous Phenomena to Teach Science" (Michael Swords) "Using UFO Reports by Pilots to Illustrate Scientific Procedures" (Richard Haines) "Learning Critical Thinking from the Study of Unidentified Flying Objects" (John Schuessler) ...then proceeds to quote EDWARD CONDON of all people, in an attempt to discredit the teaching of "pseudo-science" in the schools. "...Many children," says Condon, "are being allowed, if not actively encouraged, to devote their science study time to the reading of UFO books and magazine articles... Such study is harmful, not merely because of the erroneous nature of the material itself, but also because it retards the development of a critical faculty..." Klass also bemoans the fact that "No UFO skeptics were invited to speak." Its a safe bet that Klass has not seen the booklet containing the actual talks given, but did he not even read the TITLES of the papers when he typed them? It happens that I attended this conference, and the whole point of the presentation was to INSTILL critical thinking in the student, not discourage it or even to gloss over it. Nothing of a sensational nature was presented, not even the slightest suggestion that teachers ought to teach UFOs because they're "real." The message was that much can be learned from the study of an emerging discipline, WHETHER OR NOT the base phenomenon has any reality. For if there is no reality to the UFO question, we will need an entire generation of well-prepared critical thinkers to find out WHY the past 43 years ever happened and to make sure it doesn't happen again! I'm not sure of the public availability of the SUN newsletter yet, so I won't give the address here. If anyone's seriously interested in receiving it, let me know and I'll pass it along. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser Subject: Lear as Condor Date: 23 May 90 01:04:00 GMT I have just reviewed the tape of "UFO Cover-up Live" and paid special attention to the segment showing "Condor", the anonymous government scientist. In my opinion, it is not John Lear. Having spent many hours with Lear on the phone and in person, I think I would know his inflections, his syntax, and his diction, even if masked. While there is a slight similarity in the inflection, the speaking style of Condor does not exhibit the smoothness and glibness of Lear. Lear was never one to stammer or pause for impact; his is a more direct, forceful, almost staccato delivery. In addition, the identification of Robert Collins as Condor has been made by several people close to the production of "UFO Cover-up Live"; and, though given plenty of opportunity, Collins has never denied it to my knowledge. Jim Speiser -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: Public Service Announcement Date: 23 May 90 02:30:00 GMT > Ed Biebel, Asst. State Director of MUFON in AZ, who was > also mentioned in the article, would also like to state for > the record that he was never in Dulce, nor does he work for > the US govt. > > For what its worth, I believe both gentlemen > wholeheartedly. Although I have not had the opportunity to talk to Allen as of yet, I do recall that some months ago, he was involved in organizing a "field trip" to Dulce. I also recall that it was being coordinated with Gabe Valdez, a state trooper in New Mexico who is supposedly real involved. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Delton Subject: Re: GB Circle Date: 23 May 90 03:54:00 GMT This is not directed at you specifically, and in fact you have a good point in that the circle may be too large to be an animal nest. But, while I and you may not be in a position to actually take samples and really investigate the circle and can only speculate one it, the "investigators" that are on the scene ought to be doing more then that sort of off hand dismisal. They ARE in a position to do something meaningfull but as I read the account they might as well be tourists - about all they do is wander around the thing gawking at it. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jeff.Marsh Subject: Re: Lear as Condor Date: 23 May 90 10:48:24 GMT JS> I have just reviewed the tape of "UFO Cover-up Live" and paid special JS> attention to the segment showing "Condor", the anonymous government JS> scientist. In my opinion, it is not John Lear. Having spent many hours I have to disagree. JS> Lear on the phone and in person, I think I would know his inflections, JS> syntax, and his diction, even if masked. While there is a slight simil JS> in JS> the inflection, the speaking style of Condor does not exhibit the smoo JS> and glibness of Lear. Lear was never one to stammer or pause for impac JS> is a more direct, forceful, almost staccato delivery. I have watched him on LOCAL tv shows here in Las Vegas (ch-8 with George Knapp's "On the Record"... for instance) and the bulk of the speech was essentially (almost word for word) what CONDOR said on the national show... I could be wrong, but who knows for sure? A tid bit of info here... in the MID 70's Lear flew for a project that my father was involved with here in Las Vegas, using a LIDAR (laser system) for pollution detection. I actually met him, but was only 14 years old. (just threw that one in for the fun of it, true story) Jeff -- Jeff Marsh - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jeff.Marsh@f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: (to Jim Speiser) Date: 23 May 90 17:19:00 GMT > From: asuvax!mcdphx!xroads!gmz@ncar.UCAR.EDU (Gerry > Zeitlin) > > Jim, I have a photo you might find interesting. > > If you would send me your mailing address (or email to me > at CIS 71605,2013) I could send it to you. Gerry, Please, one to: ParaNet P.O. Box 97797 Las Vegas, NV 89193-7797 Thanks for the trouble and time. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paranet!mcorbin Subject: Et Echo/m Corbin/ And Stuff.. Date: 23 May 90 17:22:00 GMT > From: 23BMSDO <23bmsdo@sacemnet.af.mil> David Winters > --------M Corbin > What do you do for a living and how would I get a resume' > from you? Do you want this known? Who's asking, and why? > ATTENTION all you conspiracy freaks!!! We should be hearing something > in the public media soon about the F-22/23 that is rumored to be in testing > at Nellis AFB. So get those imaginations cranked up and lets see if we > can come up with some really bizaar stories to explain how Alien technology > created these new aerospace vechicles. Maybe they are made out of the > magic element 115 that Lazar speaks about? Maybe they can go supersonic > and not make a boom? Or they use hidden magnetic grids controlled by > a alien command post in Dulce? What other tricks can the all powerful > evil minds of your local government have hidden in Area 51? > So watch a couple of episodes of Twilight Zone and put forth your > most wack'o story......your might even become famous and be interviewed > by Hard Copy. The following announcement has been a service of the disinformation network of the Winter's broadcasting company. -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:209/722 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JIM GRAHAM" Subject: Field circles here... Date: 24 May 90 05:40:56 GMT The following is a report of my "investigation" of the "mysterious" circles discovered near here (about 5.2 miles from my home). I apologize for its length, but I think it might me useful for those interested in how hoaxes are perpetrated. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sunday, May 13, 1990, I, along with two other people, arrived at the scene at 9:30 a.m. The other two people were there to interview the people who rented the land, and who had originally reported the circles to the Herald Times (the local Bloomington, IN. newpaper). This interview was to be a segment in their upcoming documentary/satire called "Mysteries of the Wabash". The previous day had displayed heavy rains and Sunday was overcast, with occasional light drizzle. The ground was exceedingly wet. Video recording equipment was set up, and I proceeded with my pack of tools to the "rings". The area containing the rings was roped off and sat on a slight incline (about 20 deg.), with the lowest portion Northward. About 100 feet West by Southwest was the ruins of an old barn, complete with sleeping pigs. First, a description of the "circles". Although the Herald Times has been consistently calling the circles "concentric", they are in fact a continuous SPIRAL. The band of discoloration composing the spiral is approximately 8" wide and separated by the adjacent band by a distance of 36". The outer spiral contained some discontinuities. At one point, the intensity of discoloration gradually weakened, stopped, then resumed with a large "splotch". Starting from the inside of the spiral, the direction is counter-clockwise. The beginning of the spiral is on a line projected radially from center, due West. The end of the spiral stops on this same line. In the center of the spiral are three depressions, each is approximately 8" wide and the outer 1" of each depression is further "depressed" about 0.5". The depressions form an equilateral triangle, with each side measuring 7' 1" in length. One side of the imaginary "triangle" runs parallel to an imaginary line running east to west. Soil and plant samples have been taken. One sample was taken from the outer Northern "limb". Other samples were taken of the Eastern most depression. These have not yet (as of May 15) been analyzed. Photographs of the depressions and portions of the spiral have been obtained. After returning home, and some time later (around 5:50 p.m.), I decided to call one of the interviewees in order to request permission to obtain more samples the next day. Becky Merida told me that the rings had been mowed down because later that day, someone had, without permission, pulled their pickup truck up to the rings so they could stand on the cab and get a good picture. In the process, the truck was "hung" up. When they attempted to get it free, they left deep ruts, which made the Bruce Merida's uncle angry, so, he went out and mowed it all down. I found this horrifying, thinking at the time that some good evidence had just been destroyed as the result of a man's quick temper! As soon as I was finished talking to Becky, I hung up the phone and immediately called the producer of "Mysteries...", telling him of my recent conversation with Becky. Later, he sent me an E-mail message informing me that Becky called him about 1/2 hour after I did, to tell him that her husband's uncle made the spiral by pouring weed killer in the pattern we saw. The depressions were made with a sledge. He did it as a practical joke on his nephew, and never expected it to go outside the family. In a later computer e-mail message, the producer of "Mysteries.." interviewed the "perpetrator" of the "joke" (found in sci.skeptics for those with news capability, under "MotW:...."). Here is the gist of that message.... ---------------------------------------------------------------- START It seems that he and his brother have been playing practical jokes on one another all of their lives. This particular joke had been germinating at least a year. The intent was just to play it on the brother and others of the family who are enamored of the idea that UFO's are alien space craft. His method was simple. He set a 15 gallon can in the center of the area, filled it with water to give it significant weight, and wrapped a rope around it. On the free end of the rope he attached a watering can, which he then filled with weed killer. He walked around the central can, keeping the rope taught but unwinding it as he proceeded. Afterwards, he measured out the equilateral triangle and then used a mallet to make depressions at each apex. He never intended the hoax to extend beyond the family -- he was very surprised when the newspapers and TV took such interest after being contacted by one of his nieces. END ---------------------------------------------------------------- Four questions remain unanswered, (at least to me). 1.) After some calculations, knowing the distance between spiral arms was 36", which would also be the circumference of the can, using the formula: circumference=2*pi*radius, and solving for radius, the central 15-gallon can would have to have been about 11.5 inches in diameter. In order for a container that skinny to hold 15 gallons of water, it would have to have been at least 34-35 inches tall. I can think of a container that might fit this bill (I've never measured one). That is an old-fashioned milk-can. 2.) The mallet trick bothers me. The depressions were 8" in diameter. That alone could have been done by a mallet of that same width. Incidentally, I don't think it was done by anything smaller because the depressions were fairly round. The thing that bothers me (only because I haven't heard the explanation yet) is the further depression around the outer 1" of the main depression. Either the mallet had a funny "lip" shape around its edge, or some other object having this lip was placed on the ground and then pounded into the ground by the mallet. I have thought about the "lip-shaped" top of a milk jug, and this may indeed be the case. The uncle may have pounded the main, 8" shape into the ground, then, inverted the milk jug (after emptying the water), and pushing it further into the ground around the mallet mark. Since I don't know the actual dimensions of a milk-can, I cannot be sure of this. 3.) The weed killer...what kind was it? If I knew this, then it would make analysis of the samples much more straightforward. It is not trivial to detect the presence of a complex organic molecule which doesn't belong. Knowing what to look for first would help quite a bit. 4.) Why did Becky Merida not tell me about the "joke" when I spoke to her, yet 30 minutes later, spills all to someone else? Perhaps she was just too embarassed at that moment, or, she learned shortly after our conversation that it was indeed, a joke. It is interesting that the subsequent article in the Herald Times did not mention the "mowing" incident, nor did they mention any details of HOW the joke was perpetrated, but only that weed-killer was used. I do not know if the samples will ever be analyzed at this point. Frankly, I'm having trouble connecting with the right people on this. Furthermore, it is probably detrimental to keep them for too long. I will maintain a file of all articles, photographs, and so on on this case, if for no other reason then future references on hoaxes. Jim --------------------------------------- BITNET: GRAHAM@IUCF.BITNET INTERNET: GRAHAM@venus.iucf.indiana.edu BBS: The PORTAL DOLMEN, (812) 334-0418, 9:00pm to 8:00am EST daily HOME: (812) 334-7754 evenings WORK: (812) 855-7882 --------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Gross Subject: Thanks for the good wishes and positive vibes Date: 24 May 90 17:42:31 GMT Hi Klaatu, fellow sojourners, and aliens: ;-) Paul thanks for the good wishes and positive vibes. I tend to get absorbed in my work to the point that I forget to take vacations. Been known to work through holidays as well. I'd love to be taking a month or so off, but I might not come back if I did. ;-) I'm looking forward to getting up a little later in the morning (still think mornings should start later--say 1:00 p.m.). Also looking forward to meeting Don when we get to Altamonte Springs. I'm also going to be doing research for a book that I'm writing (purely fiction of the horror genre). I need to check up on a couple of streets in Orlando--my memory is loaded with UNIX and sockets stuff right now. Once I double check on things, I can jump right back into the story and get the first pass draft done. (Clark did this to me!! ;-) Thanks for the impetus Clark.) Some where in there, I plan to lay upon a white sand beach and lightly toast the old bod. I don't burn, but I do turn a wlanut brown rather rapidly. Must have something to do with my Native American heritage. Anyway, I'll get back on the net as soon as we get back. Check ya'll later. 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