Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 283 Sunday, August 5th 1990 Today's Topics: Introduction From A New Subscriber Lazar-ium and more Gulf Breeze Aug 6th???? Unsolved Mysteries GB AWOL 6 OUT THERE Re: Gb Mayor Says Case Is Hoax Re: Crop Circle Hoax Re: Gulf Breeze Six Crop Circle Hoax Gulf Breeze Six Re: ILL BREEZE Re: Gulf Breeze Six Gulf Breeze Six Re: Gulf Breeze Six Re: More GB GB 6 trying to expose cover-up? Re: Lazar-ium And More Re: Informant OUT THERE DESERTERS Re: Gulf Breeze Six ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f3206.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Introduction From A New Subscriber Date: 2 Aug 90 06:50:00 GMT > From: > Welcome to ParaNet. I hope you find it enjoyable and hope to see you become a regular participant. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f3206.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f3206.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Lazar-ium and more Date: 2 Aug 90 07:01:00 GMT George Knapp, KLAS-TV's award winning news reporter who brought us "UFOs: The Best Evidence" and whom profiled Bob Lazar as the so-called "Area 51 secret physicist" has been writing a bi-weekly column in the Las Vegas Sun. For the most part, Knapp has been writing on various subjects of local interest, totally unrelated to UFOs. In today's paper, however, George makes a comment as a close to his article (non-UFO) related which I found to be interesting. It is, and I quote, "The last chapter in the Bob Lazar story is not yet written. Anyone who thinks this is just going to disappear could be mistaken." Lazar will be sentenced for his involvement in a Las Vegas prostitution ring on August 6th. Will this close the final chapter that Knapp is talking about? Wait a minute!!!!!! Isn't that the date that Jesus is to fly into Gulf Breeze aboard Ed's UFO under the watchful eye of the "End of the World" cult and the adventures of the MIB 6? Stay tuned! Same bat time -- Same bat channel! -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f3206.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg.Booras@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Greg Booras) Subject: Gulf Breeze Aug 6th???? Date: 2 Aug 90 14:03:00 GMT Aug 6th, When I read that date for some reason I knew that it was a important date. It is the aniversary of the first Atomic bomb drop on Hiroshima.... Aug 6th 1945..... Interesting date for the gulf breeze pick up... -- Greg Booras - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Greg.Booras@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg.Booras@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Greg Booras) Subject: Unsolved Mysteries Date: 2 Aug 90 14:27:00 GMT Unsolved Mysteries will air Show on Ufo's and gulf breeze Aug 8th at 7:00 pm central time. -- Greg Booras - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Greg.Booras@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Houdeshell <70003.4667@compuserve.com> Subject: GB AWOL 6 Date: 2 Aug 90 21:40:48 GMT Bill: Caught your message on the comments of two wire service employees in Paranet Digest 279. What exactly did these people hear? I gather they were both in the southwest, so the report of the GB 6 story's quashing would be second-hand, wouldn't it? I.e., the order to stop sending stories out over the wire would be sent to a southeast bureau. If that's the case, have you had any luck tracking the story any further? To the people who were told not to give it any more coverage, for instance? Would your contacts be willing to go on record with their accounts? (I'd imagine if they went along with the original action, they likely wouldn't be candidates for investigating or documenting their experience. Not intended to be a criticism of these people, just an observation.) Have you managed to locate any newspapers in the GB area which have devoted space to the local story? I've not been able to get any Florida papers from the OSU library (I'm in Columbus), but did find a piece about it in the Army Times, containing, toward the top, the more sensational (and, I might add, unverifiable) elements of the story--elements which, so positioned, tend to mark the story as light fare. I do have a collection of six or so stories culled from various online wire services which I can mail you if you're interested. I am pretty skittish about posting them on CompuServe since the information providers (particularly AP) have placed dire prefatory warnings online to discourage the duplication or fowarding of stories even for private use. Side note: with all the accusations Bill Cooper is noted for slinging around, a recent story I read on the civil suit Eugene Hasenfus (CIA gun-running air crew member, shot down over Nicaragua a couple years back) is pressing against the gov provides food for innuendo, if not for thought. In the story, Hasenfus recounted, in court, how he was first recruited to work for the Company's bogus air freight operation by a guy named--get this!--William Cooper in Miami. As Bill himself would no doubt hold, this can only mean something ominous. :-) Michael Houdeshell CIS Mail: 70003,4667 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 'MAJ ROBERT FLURY' Subject: OUT THERE Date: 3 Aug 90 03:16:33 GMT Has anyone read a book called 'OUT THERE: The Gov'ts Search for ET' by Howard Blum (Simon & Schuster, 1990)? -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve.Peterson@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Peterson) Subject: Re: Gb Mayor Says Case Is Hoax Date: 3 Aug 90 04:46:00 GMT Discharged for desserting?? When I was in the service, I think desserters were shot, or at least court marshalled. Is this the 'NEW' army I heard about? Steve -- Steve Peterson - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Steve.Peterson@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Re: Crop Circle Hoax Date: 31 Jul 90 19:23:04 GMT > John, you are probably right -- but whatever flavor(s) of > night-viewing equipment the researchers had, they should have > been able to resolve the culprits in their systems. I think what happened was a combination of fairly low-res gear and distance. It is an odd incident, though. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zach.Harman@p0.f630.n283.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Zach Harman) Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Six Date: 31 Jul 90 16:01:45 GMT Is there something wrong with Bill Cooper? -- Zach Harman - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Zach.Harman@p0.f630.n283.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyson.Mitchiner@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tyson Mitchiner) Subject: Crop Circle Hoax Date: 1 Aug 90 07:08:00 GMT I know, I am absolutely confused on this orange blob thing.. Its almost like they found something that made them say it was a hoax.. I dont know.. there are too many inconsistiencies in this story. -- Tyson Mitchiner - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Tyson.Mitchiner@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tyson.Mitchiner@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tyson Mitchiner) Subject: Gulf Breeze Six Date: 1 Aug 90 07:10:00 GMT Let us know what happens when the 6 meets Bill Cooper... If you find out.. -- Tyson Mitchiner - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Tyson.Mitchiner@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Re: ILL BREEZE Date: 2 Aug 90 06:07:00 GMT jbh> I'd pass it around privately, and not say a word publicly. (re: hypothetical personal UFO CE) I'd think that if you just didn't try to "cash in" on it, you wouldn't demand such strict scrutiny as an Ed Walters or even a Whitley. Look at all those people whom Budd Hopkins brings on TV, some of whom use their real names. No one cares about bashing them around or even looking at them under a microscope or through a proctoscope. It just seems that the people who stand to profit the most from the UFO issue always draw the most critisism from both inside and outside of the ufology crowd. (IMHO) -- John -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Six Date: 2 Aug 90 06:15:00 GMT > Is there something wrong with Bill Cooper? Surely you jest! (rofl) jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Gulf Breeze Six Date: 2 Aug 90 06:16:01 GMT > Let us know what happens when the 6 meets Bill Cooper... If you > find out.. I understand they're going out into the boonies and wait for the end of the world, or something like that. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder) Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Six Date: 2 Aug 90 22:59:28 GMT In a message of <31 Jul 90 09:01:45>, Zach Harman (1:283/630) writes: > Is there something wrong with Bill Cooper? My advice to you is to look at all aspects of the UFO phenomena. You'll find that beliefs range from "human-eating aliens" to "space brothers offering enlightenment". The only thing missing is hard evidence and without that, all we have are other people's opinions. If you personally have had a UFO experience then you have some proof for yourself but it is unlikely that other people will consider this "proof enough". The point I'm trying to make is that after you do some reading you'll discover that 1) The UFO phenomena is real, 2) No one really knows what these UFO's are, and 3) Our Gov't knows more about them than they readily admit to. -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry.Williams@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Barry Williams) Subject: Re: More GB Date: 1 Aug 90 00:28:34 GMT Meaning that with so much UFO activity in their own backyard, they are beginning to feel very intrigued by all of it. Sort of like the people in Fyffe, Alabama, and any other place where there has been an increased level of paranormal activity (the mysterious swaths and wheat field circles bombarding the English countryside currently). Not, literally, that they, the people of Gulf Breeze, Florida, are in fact anointed. It was a figure of speech. Please don't barf so easily or without so little explanation. It gives those of us who are pursuing this subject seriously great pause as to why you are even on this BB. There's more than enough skepticism to overcome without unnecessary monosyllabic barfing occurring every step of the way. Enough said. -- Barry Williams - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Barry.Williams@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Shaffer Jr <72750.2335@compuserve.com> Subject: GB 6 trying to expose cover-up? Date: 3 Aug 90 11:17:16 GMT On tonight's 'A Current Affair,' it was mentioned that the Gulf Breeze Six (for lack of a better name) had gone to GB in order to contact a well-known author and expose the government cover-up of UFOs. This is something I've never heard in all the other reports, and in fact seems to contradict the other reports (i.e., they were there to meet Jesus.) What's going on? ----------------------------------- Jim Shaffer, Jr. 72750.2335@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve.Peterson@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Peterson) Subject: Re: Lazar-ium And More Date: 3 Aug 90 04:42:00 GMT Wait a minute, isn't Aug 6, the date of the GB 'Unsolved Mysteries' show, AND the anniversary of the dropping of the atomic bomb??? Holy bat droppings! What else is going to happen on Aug. 6? BTW 'Current Affair', this date, was pre-empted by baseball game in LA area. How can they play baseball at a time like this? Stay tuned.....Steve -- Steve Peterson - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Steve.Peterson@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick.Moen@f2.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Rick Moen) Subject: Re: Informant Date: 25 Jul 90 16:39:22 GMT ZH> Care to comment on the fact that PARANET is a gov't ZH> controlled computer network and you're a paid disinformation ZH> agent? Many people are beginning to feel this way, and I'm ZH> pretty curious. By the way, T.S. says hi! Zach -- Could somebody please inform our handlers that none of my cheques for services as a disinformation agent are reaching me? I realise that there are pressing government expenses, like Neal Bush's car payments, gifts for dictators, and the like, but I could definitely use the cash. Greetings to my fellow agents, and keep up the good work. Terrific work, by the way, on Cooper and Bennett. We managed to make it look as if they were merely cranks who shot themselves in the foot, all by themselves. The public will never suspect where all that drivel really came from. Good job! Yours Truly, Rick Moen Secretary, Bay Area Skeptics (and Disinformation Agents) Hosts of the May 1991 Berkeley International CSICOP Conference Sysop, The Skeptic's Board BBS, San Francisco Rick_Moen@f27.n125.z1.fidonet.org -- Rick Moen - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Rick.Moen@f2.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker) Subject: OUT THERE Date: 4 Aug 90 03:35:00 GMT > From: 'MAJ ROBERT FLURY' > Subject: OUT THERE > > Has anyone read a book called 'OUT THERE: The Gov'ts Search > for ET' > by Howard Blum (Simon & Schuster, 1990)? > Bob: Yes in answer to your question. In the next issue of UFO Magazine, Vol. 5 Number 5, due out the end of August, the author, Howard Blum is interviewed by myself and Vicki Cooper Editor of UFO, and his book is reviewed. This should end up as a must read for the UFO community. Also on line is Part Two of "The Whistleblowers", Part Two of "The American made UFO, the B2", and Gulf Breeze revisited. All in all, IMOHO, a must read******Grin***. Don -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frank.Cox@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Frank Cox) Subject: DESERTERS Date: 4 Aug 90 02:34:00 GMT I read a newswire report in "The Hutchinson News", Hutchinson,KS a few days ago that stated the six army deserters found in Gulf Breeze had been demoted in rank and given general discharges. I thought it strange that considering the severity of the charge of desertion, that they in effect were given a "mild" punishment. Either this was done as a "deal' for their silence in the matter or perhaps the army had been "testing" them for possible promotion to more sensitive information and they simply "freaked out" and took off. That would be a plausible explaination. I noticed all six were young, in their early and mid twenties. The only thing about this whole end of the world thread going on here is that right now it looks grim in the Mid East with Iraq having invaded Kuwait. At this moment as I'm writing this, dawn is only a couple of hours away and any military action against Saudi Arabia will be initiated at any time. At least if the "August 4th War" rumor is correct. --- ZMailQ 1.12 (QuickBBS) * Origin: ParaNet(sm) Information Service HQ - [714]985-0666 L(1:30163/150.0) cSEEN-BY: 207/3001 30163/0 1 22 100 150 -- Frank Cox - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Frank.Cox@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Six Date: 3 Aug 90 07:01:00 GMT >> Is there something wrong with Bill Cooper? Is that a "trick question"? -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************