Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 286 Friday, August 10th 1990 Today's Topics: exoglyphs Gulf Breeze Re: Deserters Re: More GB Re: Gulf Breeze Six Re: Gulf Breeze Six Re: Deserters Re: Gulf Breeze Six Re: Photo examination TS and Zach... Re: Don Ecker's Foul Mouth Re: OUT THERE exoglyphs Re: OUT THERE Cooper and JFK Re: Gulf Breeze Six ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: exoglyphs Date: 6 Aug 90 08:09:00 GMT > > In the abduct echo you had mentioned exoglyphs. Do you know where I can > see examples of exoglyphs? Have any been reproduced in any books that > you know of? > No, that's just it, Paul. Hopkins has claimed for some time that he's collected these exoglyphs but has been keeping a lid on them so as to have a check on future cases. Apparently Dave Jacobs has come across the same sort of thing, and so I understand has Leo Sprinkle. Everyone seems to be sitting on them. It happens that I've seen a few of them, thru acquaintances of Hopkins, but only from one set, so I couldn't compare. Hopkins has made vague promises to come forward with these exoglyphs at some time in the future, but no one's been able to nail him down on it. I'm ready and waiting to be impressed. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Gulf Breeze Date: 6 Aug 90 22:29:00 GMT JB> Coul d you possibly help me understand just JB> what is happing (or happened) with Gulf Breeze? Whew, that's a question. I wrote an article on the Walters case and general Gulf Breeze area cases. You should be able to find it on many ParaNet systems, but I don't know the name Jim Speiser gave it. You can get it from me if you want. Freq or download GB.ZIP. Ed's book is the proverbial tip of the iceberg. As for August 6, the six Army deserters said that'll be a special day, and something special will happen in Gulf Breeze. Several other sources also said something will happen in Gulf Breeze on that day, which is now past. I'm writing this on the afternoon of August 6. At any rate, one of those who mentioned August 6 has a phenomenal hit rate on predictions relating to the ufo phenomena. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Re: Deserters Date: 6 Aug 90 22:30:01 GMT JD> It seems to me that the GB "thing" has reached the point JD> where if a VW You might be right. Of course, a Beetle is close to the right shape..;-) jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Re: More GB Date: 6 Aug 90 23:10:00 GMT > That was before the days of computers and stuff. > I'm not sure we haven't moved backwards in our analysis > techniques in some ways. Yeah. I think many are so quick to digitize, poke, prod, enhance and analyse that they don't use the old-fashioned methods first. There's certainly a place for edge enhancement via computer etc., but the best place to start is with an ordinary magnifying glass. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Six Date: 6 Aug 90 23:12:01 GMT > I can see how it all happened, and how it can be connected with > Gulf Breeze, without it being a significant development. Yeah, that plays very well. In an AP article in today's paper, Beason says they came to GB for religious reasons, whatever that may mean. He said there's no ufo involvement. However, at least one of the six is on record as asking Pensacola MUFON members how to get in touch with Cooper. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@f17.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Six Date: 7 Aug 90 07:32:00 GMT JH>However, at least one of the six is on record as asking Pensacola JH>MUFON members how to get in touch with Cooper. Sure..who better to know one of their own Govt operatives! hehehe -- Don Allen - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@f17.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@f17.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: Re: Deserters Date: 7 Aug 90 07:44:00 GMT I don't put much credibility into the GB deserters claims of the "end of the world". I suspect that they READ something and decided to act upon it. This case has more holes in than the swiss cheese I ate for lunch today BUT I cannot discount that they read something of importance..important enough to take the kind of action they did..but to get busted by the military,send to Ft Benning for "de-briefing" and then released to go find Bill Cooper is something that should leave a BIG audit trail for all to see.. :^_) Before The Plains of Megiddo comes the Rapture and it ain't happenned yet (hey,I'm still here!) Didya ever wonder about who's laughing like crazy at all the sink holes placed before all of us? uhmmmmmm...Could it be......? -- Don Allen - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@f17.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@f17.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Six Date: 7 Aug 90 07:52:00 GMT ZH>Is there something wrong with Bill Cooper? JS>Is there something right with him? Could it be *possible* that Zach Harman/T.S. Bennett and Bill Cooper are the SAME person????? Hmmmmmmm...I'd havta give it a high probability myself. I guess we'll know when Ole Wild Bill and Timmy resurface in Arizona. An informed source posed the same question to me tonight. Makes you wonder, though :^) -- Don Allen - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@f17.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kurt.Lochner@p22.f66.n147.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kurt Lochner) Subject: Re: Photo examination Date: 7 Aug 90 21:19:45 GMT > There's certainly a place for edge enhancement via > computer etc., but the best place to start is with an > ordinary magnifying glass. > Yeah, I had a science teacher in grade school that lived across the street that gave me a piece of 8mm film of a deliberate hoax. He challenged me and my thoughts of UFO studies with it, hence I broke out the 75x-250x-500x Gilbert microscope and found the string that supported it and reported back on how far (estimated) the object was.... prehistoric methods still work effectively, if not best. -- Kurt Lochner - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kurt.Lochner@p22.f66.n147.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kurt.Lochner@p22.f66.n147.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kurt Lochner) Subject: TS and Zach... Date: 7 Aug 90 21:30:33 GMT > > @ Could it be *possible* that Zach Harman/T.S. Bennett > and Bill Cooper > are the SAME person????? Nope, I've spent the dollars to speak with both of them, TS is 45, a freelance consultant, musician, definately not the 15 year olde "seeker" of the "cosmic truth". Besides, I spoke to Zach's father first, so I have an address in Iowa for Zach, as well as the number, and it's definately not the same personna being used for Bill Cooper. > > Hmmmmmmm...I'd havta give it a high probability > myself. I guess > we'll know when Ole Wild Bill and Timmy resurface in > Arizona. Well, Timmy could be Bill Cooper, same hysterical tone.. > > An informed source posed the same question to me > tonight. > Makes you wonder, though :^) Oh yeah, it does, doesn't it...hehehehe /&^) -- Kurt Lochner - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kurt.Lochner@p22.f66.n147.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Re: Don Ecker's Foul Mouth Date: 8 Aug 90 07:16:00 GMT ZH> TS told me what he thought about Don Ecker, and I thought I see ZH> what Don's response was. Ahhh... sounds like you got set up. You see, now you're *supposed* to get kicked off ParaNet so you can go help out TS and join in solidarity with the "censored" and surpressed leader of BenNet (The World's Most Impotent Computer Network). -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Re: OUT THERE Date: 8 Aug 90 07:26:00 GMT Paul: Bob Girard of Arcturus says he may have it in on Aug. 10. If this book is going to be promoted as many seem to think, you should be able to find it on a shelf of your local chain bookstore by then. (The question is: Which shelf? -- "Occult-Astrology-Past Lives"?) I guess we'd better ask a "viewer". :-) -- John -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder) Subject: exoglyphs Date: 9 Aug 90 04:22:21 GMT In a message of <06 Aug 90 01:09:00>, Jim Speiser (1:114/37) writes: >No, that's just it, Paul. Hopkins has claimed for some time that he's >collected these exoglyphs but has been keeping a lid on them so as to >have a check on future cases. Apparently Dave Jacobs has come across the >same sort of thing, and so I understand has Leo Sprinkle. Everyone seems >to be sitting on them. Too bad. I'd like to see if they compare to the egyptian and S. American glyphs. -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder) Subject: Re: OUT THERE Date: 9 Aug 90 04:40:30 GMT In a message of <08 Aug 90 00:26:00>, John Burke (9:1011/20) writes: > Bob Girard of Arcturus says he may have it in on Aug. 10. If >this book is going to be promoted as many seem to think, you should be >able to find it on a shelf of your local chain bookstore by then. >(The question is: Which shelf? -- "Occult-Astrology-Past Lives"?) Somewhere between Seth Speaks and Linda Goodman's Sunsigns :-) It is interesting to note that Blum like Strieber are both recognized authors (with bestsellers?) and both have entered the UFO field, even if it's only a temporary excursion. It seems that if anything, it's now OK for people to come out of the "UFO closet". Hopefully this will be the beginning of a sort of movement and UFOlogy will become respectable in the public's eye. > I guess we'd better ask a "viewer". :-) I should ask him where I lost my car keys! As for viewers; I remember a few years ago on a weekly TV show narrated by Leonard Nimoy (can't remember it's name) that there was an episode on viewers (or whatever they called them). I remember the show claiming that our military was experimenting with physics and there was one person who claimed he could focus on a building in Moscow and actually read papers laying on a person's desk. This person was a man and I think he was an ex-policeman. I can't remember much more about it but that was the jist of it. -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Finney@f701.n362.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Finney) Subject: Cooper and JFK Date: 7 Aug 90 04:09:57 GMT > One of Cooper's wilder contentions is that President Kennedy was > assassinated > Cooper himself put it in Los Angeles on 17 November 89: > 'President Kennedy was killed by the driver of his car, his name was > William > Greer. He used a recoilless, electrically operated, gas-powered > assassination pistol that was specially built by the CIA to assassinate > people at close range.' funny that this comes up.... This afternoon I heard on a radio talk show (FOR THE PEOPLE) that a Ricky White has come forth and told that his father was one of several men involved in the JFK assassination. He stated that his father fired 2 of the 3 shots. He is offering as evidence a high-powered rifle with scope, and a number of pieces of (written) materials supposed to have been letters or notes passed between the men. The person telling of the Associated Press report also mentioned that there was some question about the National Security Agency having ordered the assassination. A press conference was scheduled for later this afternoon. The father was supposed to have been a police officer, served in the Marines with Oswald and had died in a house fire in 1971. When I got home this evening, I checked with the local radio station and asked them about it. A shorter version came across the AP wire this afternoon about 1:00 PM. No other reports have come across the wire since 1 PM. There is one thing I seem to remember about the films of the assassination that were shown on TV in later years, and from a photo in LOOK that I saw also. One of the reasons I remember this was that the film was played more than once and I can recall the commentators talking about how Kennedy's head went backwards, then he slumped forwards. I also seem to recall that there was a spray of tissues towards the rear of the car... not the front. john -- John Finney - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Finney@f701.n362.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Six Date: 9 Aug 90 06:47:00 GMT jbh> Beason says ... there's no UFO involvement. Hmmm... another strange twist taken in this case. Wasn't it Beason's quasi-"family" that was interviewed in that article mentioned by Jim Delton? Maybe Beason was told to "play down" the UFO angle with the threat of sanctions for breaching his security oath. Curiouser and curiouser ... -- John -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************