Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 299 Monday, September 10th 1990 Today's Topics: Keith Rowell e-mail address or whereabouts Re: Mystery Teletype Re: Betz Comment Mystery Teletype Re: Betz comment Exeter Sighting Re: Wheatfield Circles, Phase II? Bill English Tapes Mystery Teletype New ParaNet Node RE: teletype message (none) Re: Wheatfield Circles, Phase II? Re: ILL BREEZE Re: UFO'S; BERMUDA TRIANGLE Playing tag on radar Re: Betz comment Re: Mystery Teletype Re: Mystery Teletype Re: Wheatfield Circles, Phase II? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gary Knight Subject: Keith Rowell e-mail address or whereabouts Date: 5 Sep 90 20:18:11 GMT Sorry to use the net for contact purposes, but would Keith Rowell please send me an e-mail with his new address? I tried the old one this morning and the message bounced. Thanks, Gary ------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Re: Mystery Teletype Date: 5 Sep 90 15:55:00 GMT Clark: Its not clear from the tract I read whether the teletype message was sent OVER the teletype, or whether it was received in the mail by the various entities. I got the impression it was mailed, since it contained several photos as well. The word "teletyped" appeared in the story in Saucer Smear, so I gather the message had that "teletyped" look about it, at least. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Re: Betz Comment Date: 5 Sep 90 07:38:00 GMT Clark: It seems that the CIA may have even violated the relaxed "restrictions" afforded by Pres. Ron (or his puppeteers). As I recall, they were given free reign to go back to their "old tricks" as long as they avoided trying to influence journalists or shape domestic public opinion. If what Blum says is correct, they (CIA) may have crossed those boundaries. -- John -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Mystery Teletype Date: 3 Sep 90 17:17:00 GMT > Rex S. told me that many similar messages were received by news > organizations in the area, and the Army. > My best guess is that some folks are coming out of the woodwork. ;-) > At any rate, I think the Army just wanted to get rid of the Six and > get it over with before it became a huge media event. A year from now, a > mention of the GB6 will probably get you a "who?" > I'm sure you're correct. Its just that, well, what the hell is gonna happen next with this case?? Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton) Subject: Re: Betz comment Date: 3 Sep 90 19:22:00 GMT Without seeing the photos one can only speculate but the 0-2 is a somewhat distinctive aircraft in that it has a twin boom to hold up the tail;i.e., there is no rear fuselage cuz the rear prop goes there and the booms go out around the prop. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David.Stager@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Stager) Subject: Exeter Sighting Date: 4 Sep 90 03:01:00 GMT 09/03/90 25th anniversary of famous N.H. UFO sighting observed EXETER, N.H. -- New Hampshire saucer watchers said Monday they will observe the 25th anniversary of the famous "Incident at Exeter" UFO sighting with a week-long program of films and discussions. It was in the early morning hours of Sept. 3, 1965, that a near hysterical Norman Muscarello burst into the Exeter Police station and told startled officers he had seen a huge pulsating red light flitting above a farmer's field. The 19-year-old Muscarello said he had been hitchiking on a lonely stretch of highway between Kensington and Exeter when the UFO suddenly appeared. Exeter Police officer Reginald Toland was convinced the teenager saw something and sent patrolman Eugene Bertrand back to the area with Muscarello to look for the UFO, said Peter Geremia, state director of the Mutual UFO Network, an international non-profit group that investigates UFO reports. Bertrand was later joined by officer David Hunt and the pair saw what appeared to be a 90-foot diameter glowing red disk eerily tracking through the trees above a farm, said Geremia. The close encounter, later documented by Connecticut author John Fuller's bestseller "Incident at Exeter," touched off a massive wave of sightings across the nation. To Geremia and other UFO researchers in New Hampshire, the Exeter sightings were significant because of the credibility of the three police officers involved. "They showed a tremendous amount of courage to come forward and tell what they saw. In '65 there were many skeptics ... and crazy kooks involved in UFOs. Now there's more credibility associated with the subject," he said. "This wasn't what you would call a superduper sighting with abductions and all that. But it's a nuts and bolt sighting with excellent witnesses and an enormous amount of research involved. It was read into the Congressional Record and the government has never been able to dispute that those officers saw something," Geremia said. Fuller and two of the police officers involved in the sighting are expected to appear at the Exeter Public Library Sept. 11 for a discussion honoring the 25th anniversary of the close encounter. Geremia said Fuller will reveal information never before released about the incident. A slide show and talk by MUFON officials are also planned, he said. The library has also scheduled films and activities relating to UFOs for the week following the Fuller appearance, Geremia said. -- David Stager - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: David.Stager@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gatech!mcnc.org!convex!swarren (Steve Warren) Subject: Re: Wheatfield Circles, Phase II? Date: 6 Sep 90 15:47:13 GMT +From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) +Subject: Wheatfield Circles, Phase II? +Date: 30 Aug 90 03:09:00 GMT [...] +According to the gents who showed me the photos, the new patterns exhibit the +same oddities as the circles: the stalks are flattened without breaking, yet +the grain survives and grows; the patterns emerge overnight; they are almost +perfectly symmetrical; and no one has yet been spotted trampling the fields. +Furthermore, the scale of the patterns is an order of magnitude larger than +before. Whereas the circles averaged about 30 - 50 feet in diameter, several +of these new patterns are the size of a football field. [...] Ah-ha! That explains it! Now I know what is causing the phenomenum! It is my old Highschool marching band practicing their corp-style exhibition drills in the grain-fields of England! The smaller circles of course are caused by the batton-twirlers. Boy, if they knew how much trouble they were causing, I'll bet their faces would be red. _. --Steve ._||__ DISCLAIMER: All opinions are my own. Warren v\ *| ---------------------------------------------- V {uunet,sun}!convex!swarren; swarren@convex.COM -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Bill English Tapes Date: 5 Sep 90 15:54:00 GMT This past weekend, Bill English was the featured speaker at a conference held by the Foundation for UFO Research in Tucson. English spoke at two sessions. At the morning session he talked about his research into the paranormal aspects of UFOs and abductions. In the afternoon, his talk focused on his experience at RAF Chicksands, where he allegedly saw a top secret document called "Project Grudge Special Report 13", and on subsequent events in his life. 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For background, see GRUDGE.DOC, ENGLISH.DOC on ParaNet. -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Orchard@p1.f502.n202.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Orchard) Subject: Mystery Teletype Date: 7 Sep 90 03:15:47 GMT In a message to Don Orchard <04 Sep 90 17:59:00> Clark Matthews wrote: CM> Hello Don! Actually, I wasn't implying that the culprits had CM> cracked a military TTY. Rather, they seem to have cracked a CM> commercial/proprietary TTY. It's difficult to tell because the text CM> of the teletype doesn't show from what wire it originated. CM> Anyway, the teletype was received at the CM> Gulf Breeze Sentinel with a header: CM> <> CM> assuming a commercial newswire. Even so, I'm impressed at someone CM> cracking the UPI or AP wire -- let alone dedicated military lines! I don't know anything about how the commercial newswire circuits are set up but I would imagine that they are fairly secure and may even be on dedicated phone lines. But I agree it is impressive. Thanks for the info. CM> Suggest you follow the message thread backward about a week or so -- CM> the plain text of the message in question is quoted in a message CM> from Jim Speiser. Thanks for the suggestion and I would if I could but I just joined the NetWork here. The proverbial 'New Kid on the Block' (smile). Your's was the one of the first messages I replied to since I thought it ws hitting me where I work, so to speak. I haven't even written a decent introduction message yet. I guess I better get on the ball and do that. Thanks for the reply and I'll be watching. See Ya!! Don -- Don Orchard - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Orchard@p1.f502.n202.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Orchard@p1.f502.n202.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Orchard) Subject: New ParaNet Node Date: 7 Sep 90 03:24:12 GMT Hello Everyone, I'm pleased to announce that there is now a ParaNet Node in the San Diego area. The name of the BBS is Don's House and has been in operation for about a year now. I'm looking forward to operating as a ParaNet Node and getting to know you all. As far as credentials go, I really don't have any. Just an honest and sincere interest in the field, with a mature and open attitude. I have always had an interest in UFO's and the Unexlpainable or ParaNormal though I never really persued it to a great extent. I started becoming active a couple months back when a couple of my callers got me interested in finding Echos pertaining to UFO's. Then through other Echos I finally found Mike and ParaNet and what I feel will be a good source of current and accurate information without alot of Bickering and nonsence, which I have a low level of tollerance for. I will be more than happy to provide information in any areas I can and as my education level increases I will have no qualms with jumping in the frey with the rest of you. Thanks for your time and I hope to be welcome here with you experts. Thanks Mike. Regards Don -- Don Orchard - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Orchard@p1.f502.n202.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Lapp Subject: RE: teletype message Date: 7 Sep 90 18:33:53 GMT + TTY. It's difficult to tell because the text of the teletype doesn't show + from what wire it originated. + + Anyway, the teletype was received at the Gulf Breeze Sentinel with a header: + + <> + Many of the newswires have TTY broadcasts on shortwave frequencies. It is then just a trivial matter to hook up a shortwave receiver to a converter that can convert the 'deedle deedle' of the RTTY (radio TTY) back to text. I recently saw something that says that if you have a PC already, a $100 card for it and a radio will get you receiving all sorts of good stuff. I would guess that the TTY message may have been 'intercepted' that way... - tom -- internet : mvac23!thomas@udel.edu or thomas%mvac23@udel.edu (home) : 4398613@mcimail.com (work) uucp : {ucbvax,mcvax,psuvax1,uunet}!udel!mvac23!thomas Location : Newark, DE, USA Quote : I know how to spell banana, I just don't know when to stop -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder) Subject: (none) Date: 7 Sep 90 02:40:03 GMT In an article of <4 Sep 90 07:20:29 GMT>, ddrasin@well.sf.ca.us (Dan Drasin) writes: >Paul, would you be willing to grant me permission to post your >Hudson Valley files (Written by Phil Imbrogno) on the San >Francisco-based BBS, the WELL? These were the ones that appeared in >Info-Paranet Newsletters #293 and #296. >Dan Drasin I don't think there would be a problem since those files are now available on CompuServe. -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Re: Wheatfield Circles, Phase II? Date: 6 Sep 90 14:43:00 GMT > Jim: > What are the possibilities of obtaining GIF files on the latest > wheatfield action for the ParaNet library? > -- John Now that's a great idea. Only trouble is, this network has had very little luck in "commissioning" GIF artwork in the past, and I just don't know how its done. Can ANYONE out there give us some advice? Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: ILL BREEZE Date: 27 Aug 90 18:05:30 GMT Sorry about long delay in answering, modem connections have been poor for the last few weeks. Suddenly I am waiting day by day for Paranet feeds. I think my Seadog has stopped talking to Frontdoor again. Ah well. You asked if ED was considered a kook or fraud to start with. I don't think so. In fact the whole GB incident still seems very real, it's just that most of the atention has been directed at one person, who is losing credibility as time passes. I'm not the first to say this, but what about the other 100-200 people who saw something? All this attention for one couple who have photos that look fishy to me, is diverting the study of the rest of the people. I don't think it's a conspiracy, it's just someone grabbing an event and making the best of the free publicity to write and promote a book. I don't know if ED is a kook or a fraud, I'll just say the evidence and the photos he has presented are very suspicious. -- Pete Porro - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: UFO'S; BERMUDA TRIANGLE Date: 27 Aug 90 18:29:36 GMT After many wasted hours reading about the Bermuda Triangle, it is my current view that it was created in many peoples minds as a mode to sell books. There is not way to prove it false, but the weight of the evidence statisticaly shows there is nothing unusual going on in the vague area use by numerous authors. I don't want to waste the space debating, but I will say that the triangle is stretched to fit the cases selected by authors. Many cases are fictionally reported as fact, and some are only partially documented to somehow support the creative writing. Examples: A newspaper account of a ship that vanished without a trace is used, what is not mentioned is that debris is found weeks later. Reports that a pleasure craft is lost in calm seas, actually there is quite a drift and small craft warnings when records are checked. I guess the one that sticks in the back of my mind is that... More planes are lost over the continental US and never found, than over the water. So if aircraft are lost over land, what chance is there of finding something that sinks in the ocean? -- Pete Porro - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Roger Black Subject: Playing tag on radar Date: 8 Sep 90 06:51:31 GMT The request for information on UFOs and radar brought the following tale to mind. It doesn't have anything to do with the RFI, but it's interesting in its own right (at least to me). Sometime during the 1970s or thereabouts, a friend of mine was flying cross- country in a private Lear jet. While over the midwest (somewhere, I believe, near the Great Lakes, but I'm not sure) he started playing with the plane's radar. First he directed the radar downward, just to see what he could pick up. Then he directed it outward, looking for other aircraft. Then, on a whim, he aimed it up. Much to his surprise, he picked up a number of fast- moving targets at tremendous altitude, which seemed more than anything else to be chasing each other around and playing tag. After watching this for a while, trying to figure out if it was perhaps some trick of the weather or the equipment, he brought it to the pilot's attention. 'Oh, yeah--those things!' he replied. "A lot of people have noticed them, but nobody knows what they are. You're really not supposed to talk about them.' He hinted pretty strongly that anybody who tried to make a big deal about it could end up losing his pilot's license, so everybody just acted like they weren't there. I am neither a pilot nor an expert on radar, so this could all be hogwash; I'm just relaying what I was told. Does this make sense to anybody? Has anyone else ever run across anything like this? -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Re: Betz comment Date: 7 Sep 90 19:48:01 GMT JD> Without seeing the photos one can only speculate but the JD> 0-2 is a somewhat distinctive aircraft in that it has a Yeah, the O-2 (Cessna Skymaster) is distinctive. I haven't been following this thread. Was the airplane seen at night or at a great distance? jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Re: Mystery Teletype Date: 7 Sep 90 19:53:03 GMT JS> Its not clear from the tract I read whether the teletype JS> message was sent OVER the teletype, or whether it was Mailed, according to R.S. a while back. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark.Matthews@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) Subject: Re: Mystery Teletype Date: 8 Sep 90 03:55:00 GMT > Thanks for the suggestion and I would if I could but I > just joined the NetWork here. The proverbial 'New Kid on > the Block' (smile). Your's was the one of the first > messages I replied to since I thought it ws hitting me > where I work, so to speak. No problem, Don. Actually, you can find the original message pretty fast if you set the BBS to read elected messages. The BBS will ask you what you want to read, messages rom someone, o someone, or by ubject. Just put the Subject header in and you can read or capture the entire thread. Heck, you're a Sysop -- forgive my spouting off. Nice typing to you & welcome to Pnet! Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder) Subject: Re: Wheatfield Circles, Phase II? Date: 8 Sep 90 03:47:56 GMT In a message of <06 Sep 90 07:43:00>, Jim Speiser (1:114/37) writes: >Now that's a great idea. Only trouble is, this network has had very >little luck in "commissioning" GIF artwork in the past, and I just don't >know how its done. Can ANYONE out there give us some advice? I've had fairly good luck in creating some GIFs by using a hand scanner. There are some things to consider though such as the item being scanned/GIF'ed and distributed must be in the public domain otherwise there may be problems such as copyright infringements. From the technical point, the image must be of high contrast to produce good results (at least with my scanner). I'm sure a higher quality scanner would produce a better image but as always, money (or the lack of) is a limiting factor. The best image to scan is black ink on white paper. Colors are seen as shades of gray. The scanned image on my scanner produces a file with a .PCX format. I have a program that will convert that PCX file to GIF. It fails if the PCX file is large ( approx. > 150K ). -- Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************