Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 317 Monday, October 15th 1990 Today's Topics: Aliases Southern Hemisphere SETI Re: Gulf Breeze Re: Mystery Teletype Re: Aliases Re: JFK's UFO Connection? Public BBS's Wall St. Journal Re: Mayor Ed vs. Mr. ED Various & Sundry Magazine _UFO_ The Salisberrys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian.Clark@f11.n289.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Brian Clark) Subject: Aliases Date: 11 Oct 90 17:37:00 GMT > Er, Brian....I think that CYRO Lord is his real name... > > Jim > Woops! Well, I stand corrected. No offense intended! Brian -- Brian Clark - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Brian.Clark@f11.n289.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David.Stager@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Stager) Subject: Southern Hemisphere SETI Date: 12 Oct 90 21:38:00 GMT ET search begins from Southern Hemisphere By ROB STEIN UPI Science Editor WASHINGTON (UPI) -- A powerful new radio receiver began scanning the sky from the Southern Hemisphere Friday for messages from intelligent life from outer space. About 100 people gathered at the Argentine Institute of Radioastronomy outside Buenos Aires as the high-tech receiver was switched on at 10:09 a.m. EDT and began monitoring more than 8 million radio frequencies. Nothing was immediately detected. "Nobody thinks it's going to get turned on and there will be a, 'Hello, how are you?' sitting there. But this is clearly a significant step forward," said astronomer Carl Sagan beforehand. The new receiver allows astronomers for the first time to systematically search the part of the cosmos visible from the Southern Hemisphere for radio signals from extraterrestrial beings. "If we were extremely lucky, and there were some relatively nearby civilization broadcasting us a message, but they were in the Southern Hemisphere, we could have blithely been going on all these year and never heard it," said Sagan, president of The Planetary Society, which set up the receiver. Although there is no evidence intelligent life exists on other worlds, it is theoretically possible, Sagan said. "A lot of scientists, the overwhelming majority, expect there's a lot of life and intelligence," Sagan said. "The whole point is we don't know." Astronomers are anxious to scan the sky from the Southern Hemisphere because they will have access to some of the stars nearest Earth, including those in the heart of our own Milky Way galaxy. "For the first time, we will be a very capable of searching for extraterrestrial intelligence in the other half of the sky," Sagan said by telephone from Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y. The $150,000 META II or Megachannel Extraterrestrial Assay II receiver will complement META I, which has been scanning the Northern Hemisphere's sky from the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics' Oak Ridge Obseratory in Harvard, Mass., since 1985. "We've sometimes detected some strange signals," said Thomas McDonough, who runs the SETI, or Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence project, for the Pasadena, Calif.-based Planetary Society, which promotes space exploration. "In most cases we've been able to track them down as being from the sun or our own civilization. We have on occasion detected strange signals. But they have not repeated. The most likely explanation is they are from our civilization. But we don't know for sure," McDonough said. With its dish antenna 98 feet in diameter, the new receiver can simultaneously scan 8.4 million radio frequencies, systemically moving across the sky in search of incoming signals. There have been previous searches, but the new receiver, run by the Organization of Argentine Astronomers, will be the first permanent outpost that will continuously sweep the entire sky, McDonough said. NASA, meanwhile, is trying to get money for a 10-year, $100 million SETI project that would monitor 20 million radio channels every second. -- David Stager - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: David.Stager@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton) Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Date: 13 Oct 90 18:25:00 GMT All those questions that you would like answer to are good questons but it simply isn't possible to cover everything in a 20 minute segment. It seems that most people are attacking anyone who trys to cast any doubt on what Ed says. In an effort to discredit those who question Ed's story we now have allegations of the debunkers having planted a fake "fake" UFO, arranged for someone to buy the house and "find" it' arrange for a newpaper reported to come by and ask about it, arrange for other newspeople to arrange photo's of it that show how well it matches the "real" UFO; arrange for a teenager to come forward so he can be attacked apparently by the believers. The scenerio painted by the believers to "explain" the apparent evidence of a hoax are about as hard to believe as the original claims made by ED. The Believers are willing to pretty much take everything ED says at face value while questioning the motives and abilties of just about everyone who dares to question ED's veracity. I heard statements over and over again by ED's supporters about how the Model in the Attic looked nothing like anything in Ed's photos yet as shown on UnSolved Mysteries, the match between the two when photographed in similar perspective is virtually identical. I have to aske myself how objective these supposedly objective investigators are when somehting that is so similar is said to have no similarity. I have to wonder why, when the homeowner says he found the model months before anyone asked him about I, the believers continue to say over and over again that the reporter came to the house only a couple of days after the model was found. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton) Subject: Re: Mystery Teletype Date: 13 Oct 90 18:40:00 GMT Am I reading your messages correctly?? You are saying that Ed's videos show that the UFO stayed within one video scanline and that is verification of authenticity??? I thought he took those videos while the camera was handheld. To maintain within one scan line would require a very steady hand indeed!! Am I mistaken and he used a tripod? Remembering that this is the guy who usually used a handheld polaroid we are to believe that suddenly he turned into Francios Truffant and set up all his proffessional video equipment and got everything stablized and framed before even fireing off the camera? Hmm, can you clarify any of that for me.... -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton) Subject: Re: Aliases Date: 13 Oct 90 18:57:00 GMT At the risk of offending, I thing you are misinterpeting what a "public" BBS is. When it comes to non-gvt entities there is no free speech right as many people seem to think there is. The only right one has on a non-gvt BBS, or magazine, or newspaper is whatever rights the owner chooses to give you. BBS's by their nature, are far more free in the rights they grant then virtually any other open forum I can think of and that has lead many people to think that the owners have no right to try and control what they own. If you feel that your free speech rights are compromised on a BBS consider how you would be recieved if you went to a newspaper office and asked for unlimited access to the newspaper columns to have them print whatever you wanted printed and in whatever quantity, and at no cost to you, and with no control over the content, or the timing, or the legal implications of your material. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton) Subject: Re: JFK's UFO Connection? Date: 13 Oct 90 18:58:00 GMT IMHO, No. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton) Subject: Public BBS's Date: 13 Oct 90 19:09:00 GMT RE> the previous message that starts "At the risk of offending" It was supposed to be address to Someone else, Brian Clark I think, who was unhappy that there were any restraints on his freedom of speech. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul.White@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Paul White) Subject: Wall St. Journal Date: 14 Oct 90 15:47:00 GMT Cou someoe please post the conent of the recent Wall treet Journal articl dealing with the Belgian UFO sightings (if it's not too much trouble). I briefly glanced at thront page art in the airport in Denver, bt didn't get to read the entire th. Onetng I did note from the article was thatEuroans were getting quite a joke out of the whole thing ecausetheobjects have been sighted in Belgium.ropeans tell `Belgian jokes' like Americans tell Polish jokes. I rememberthe article stating that they're not laughinnow after some of the better sightings, correlated with radar video. -- Paul White - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.White@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Re: Mayor Ed vs. Mr. ED Date: 15 Oct 90 04:43:00 GMT > > So, for all I know the esteemed Burgomeister of Gulf Breeze may be as > deep as the North Atlantic and as principled as Honest Abe, but none of > it came thru the lens. What's the skinny on Gray? Did you publish the > interview? How long did you talk to him, and when? > > Inquiring minds want to know. It was around September of '88, and I published highlights of the interview in that month's INSIDE UFOLOGY column. I think its still online somewhere. Hall and Smith referred to it in an article in the MUFON Journal last year. I'll see if I can dig up the column. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Various & Sundry Date: 15 Oct 90 05:04:00 GMT 1) Dr. Richard Haines has just published his fourth book, "Advanced Aerial Devices Reported During the Korean War." Apparently there were quite a few reports by our flyboys during that period, 1950-53, and Haines is probably the most qualified man in the field to discuss them, as he has devoted a goodly portion of his UFO career to studying pilot reports. The book includes a forward by Jacques Vallee, who collaborated with Haines on some of the research. Available for $9.50 + 1.25 s/h from: LDA Press, PO Box 880, Los Altos, CA, 94023-0880. ISBN # 0-9618082-1-7 2) The aforementioned Dr. Haines will be speaking in Phoenix at the Arizona Science Teachers Association Conference, at 11:30 Thursday the 18th. Then on Friday he will appear in Tucson at an affair arranged by Allen Benz' Foundation for UFO Research. Contact Allen at 602-792-4522. 3) Dr. Marcello Truzzi has been added to the speakers list at the upcoming Santa Barbara Conference, which is already one of the very best lineups ever. Truzzi, as you may know, is that rarest and most valuable of commodities, a CSICOP defector. Not exactly a true believer, mind you, but Truzzi parted company with CSICOP several years ago in a dispute over their general approach and attitude towards the paranormal, and I believe the Gauquelin incident fanned the flames as well. If you can only make it to one UFO event this year, make it this one. The other speakers are: Eddie Bullard, Jerry Clark, George Eberhart, Dick Haines, Budd Hopkins, ParaNet's Dave Jacobs, J. Gordon Melton, Mark Rodeghier, John Saliba, and Don Schmitt. They've packed all that into one day, and its only $40. For information, contact: The Santa Barbara Centre for Humanistic Studies, Inc., Box 91611, Santa Barbara, CA, 93190-1611, 805-967-2669. 4) Does ANYONE have ANY information on the sightings in Northern Minnesota, which were allegedly reported on network TV news recently? Lights in the sky is all I know at this point. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZAK@cu.nih.gov Subject: Magazine _UFO_ Date: 15 Oct 90 19:11:58 GMT Someone, I believe, was looking for a place to buy copies of the magazine _UFO_. As it so happens, I was browsing the magazine racks at a recently opened bookstore and found v. 4, No. 5 ($3). If you're in the DC (Washington) area, try Borders Books at the corner of Rockville Pike (Route 355) and Nicholson Lane. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: The Salisberrys Date: 15 Oct 90 05:50:00 GMT John: Forgive me if I've asked this before, but what do you know about Rex and Carol Salisberry now claiming to be convinced that Ed is a hoaxer? I have now heard this from two sources. 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