Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 326 Tuesday, November 6th 1990 Today's Topics: Re: Belgium Williamsburg Iowa 28 October 90 Re: GULF BREEZE UPDATE Re: NAVY INTELLIGENCE CRYPTO Re: Horse-patooties And Sonic Booms Re: Navy Intelligence Crypto Re: Navy Intelligence Crypto UFO Video No refutations of Remote Viewing Re: Ed Walters video Re: Conclusion - Gulf Breeze ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Re: Belgium Date: 2 Nov 90 14:55:00 GMT Rick, Thank you very much for the path information. I have sent a message to the site. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f110.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Williamsburg Iowa 28 October 90 Date: 2 Nov 90 15:15:00 GMT > From: postmaster@scicom.alphacdc.com > Date: 2 Nov 90 04:15:37 GMT > Message-ID: <7705@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM> > Newsgroups: info.paranet > > From: James Roger Black Is there a way to get this person posting into the digest? I would be interested in further details. Also, Roger, check into Alpha soon. There is mail waiting for you there. Thanks, Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f110.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: GULF BREEZE UPDATE Date: 30 Oct 90 16:37:23 GMT I have to agree with your final statement. It's either a coverup for disinformation, someone trying to continue the hoax (ED covering his trail), or a group trying to discredit the sightings. As you have probably guessed from my posts, I think the sightings by people were honest reports, I believe the photos and other materials from GB ED are destined to be discredited as a hoax. Meanwhile he will be laughing all the way to the bank. As for the first theory (Govt. Cover-up) this comes out whenever the evidence is not well managed or not complete enough. Great way to lay blame, and makes for great controversy, but most of the time it just does not exist. As many who study this phenomonia have probably observed, the Govt. is just as much in the dark much of the time. Some people just can't accept that "big brother" possibly does not know something. With all the resources available, the powers of information cannot find a conclusive answer either. This as I have said before is unacceptable to some people. If there is some secret information, I can bet it's not an underground base with living aliens, or vats of human cells disolved for absorption. The whole concept makes a nice SF plot though. Pass the strawberry ice cream please! Hope this finally gets out since I paid my phone bill two days ago. 8*) -- Pete Porro - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: NAVY INTELLIGENCE CRYPTO Date: 30 Oct 90 16:40:34 GMT Oops I have a file from June called Kennedy.txt I better rename it so there is no confusion in the future. Is there distribution of these releases, and what about the Paranet newsletters, where can I get them? I think I am missing something here? -- Pete Porro - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Kraus@f10.n371.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Kraus) Subject: Re: Horse-patooties And Sonic Booms Date: 4 Nov 90 06:43:00 GMT Hi Doug, I thank you for that very informative report however,I believe you meant to post it to someone else.I don't remember who it was. Someone asked if the Paint "REFLECTED" radar and I replied that I had read somewhere about it absorbing radar. DK> Thank goodness Iraq doesn't have any look-down radar DK> capabilities (they don't - do they?) I hope not. DK> By the way - couldn't that super loud, superfast aircraft DK> that pulses at 1 - 2 Hz be the Fulcrum aircraft that was DK> supposed to havbe been developed and dropped (or something DK> like that. Seem to remember something about that aircraft DK> and that it would travel Mach 3+.) Sorry,This I would not know as it is not my field. DK> DK> And is it really becoming this hard to discriminate between DK> deep black projects and actual UFO's? You went over my head at mach 3 on that one Doug>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info.and I truely sorry I can't answer those questions for you DOUG. MIKE. -- Mike Kraus - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Kraus@f10.n371.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David.Stager@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Stager) Subject: Re: Navy Intelligence Crypto Date: 4 Nov 90 05:08:00 GMT I'm sorry I don't have an answer for any of your questions regarding Paranet. I think you'll have to direct your query to Mr. Corbin. Are you out there Mike? DCS -- David Stager - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: David.Stager@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f110.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Re: Navy Intelligence Crypto Date: 4 Nov 90 06:38:00 GMT > Oops I have a file from June called Kennedy.txt I better > rename it so there is no confusion in the future. Is there > distribution of these releases, and what about the Paranet > newsletters, where can I get them? I think I am missing > something here? Which newsletters are you referring to? Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f110.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou.Zucaro@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Lou Zucaro) Subject: UFO Video Date: 4 Nov 90 16:55:00 GMT I don't know how many of you saw my last message, but my company is working on a series of video programs on the subject of UFOs. We're starting the offline edit this week for the first tape, but if anybody out there has access to photos, video, film, or any kind of info that might be helpful, I'd really appreciate hearing from you. You can leave a message for me on here, or you can call me toll-free at work during regular business hours (C/M time) at 1-800-777-2223. The company I work for is the WPA Film Library, a division of MPI Home Video (the largest independant video distribution company in North America). Thanks.. Lou Z. -- Lou Zucaro - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Lou.Zucaro@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: No refutations of Remote Viewing Date: 1 Nov 90 14:39:00 GMT Thanks for that info, Keith. At my first opportunity I will look at the references you cited both in favor of and in criticism of remote viewing. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton) Subject: Re: Ed Walters video Date: 4 Nov 90 06:47:00 GMT >>I think it flies ...Comments You have fleshed out, in excellent detail, what Jim Speiser and I discussed many months ago. Amoung the original discussions were that there were consistent "out of place" pinpoint lights around the "UFO" that appeared to be reflections on a plate of glass. You see usually three small lights around the UFO that just don't make any sense to me other then as reflections, in many of Ed's early photo's. The photo of the UFO going behind a tree had me stumped but your method of just blacking out the area of the glass in the appropriate spot makes sense. Didn't some of Ed's photo's of the "scene" even show a slidding glass door?? -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Re: Conclusion - Gulf Breeze Date: 4 Nov 90 02:47:00 GMT John: After reading the full text of the Salisberry interview, I must admit that I am shocked and disappointed with Walt's handling of their report. As you know, I have been skeptical of the Walters case for a long time. However, I *did* believe that if the persuasive evidence of a hoax was ever brought forth, Walt would admit to having been duped. I gave Walt more credit than this. I guess I was wrong. On the other hand, I have previously expressed my opinion that Dr. Bruce was "past the point of no return" and that his professional reputation was hanging on this. Therefore, I would never expect Dr. Bruce to admit that his photo analysis fell short of the degree of competence which one would expect from a PhD. Worst of all is the irony that MUFON purports to be crusading for an end to the government cover-up about the truth on UFOs while at the same time, MUFON's membership is crusading for an end to MUFON's cover-up about the truth concerning the Ed Walters hoax. Walt's continued attempts to deny, debunk and stonewall the Salisberry report have turned an unfortunately successful hoax into WALTERSGATE. A cancer has been growing in MUFON which now threatens its future existence. At this juncture, I have no desire to renew my membership in MUFON as I feel it would be prudent to distance myself from that organization. -- John -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:207/109 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************