Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 346 Wednesday, January 9th 1991 Today's Topics: Bo Gritz says.... Last but not least.... Re: Paranet Newsletter 344 Chuck Harder's 'For The People' show Hoagland's Mars Hoagland's program Statistics Towards hardwares discussion? Friedman, Above Top Secret... Hoagland's program ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know, are we confused yet? Just kidding. This newsletter is coming from the new address for outbound mail. PLEASE remember, the submission address of: infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com (The new address is to catch returns.) -Cyro ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker) Subject: Bo Gritz says.... Date: 6 Jan 91 03:09:00 GMT Editor: I've served most of my adult life as an intelligence operative (In- telligence Officer, Delta Force; Com- mander, Special Operations, Viet- Nam: Commander Special Forces, Latin America; Principal Agent, NSC-ISA). Unlike William Cooper, I can prove this identity. I have been a Pilot for more than 30 years. My assignments have taken me all over the globe including Africa, Asia, Middle East, Latin America, et al. Much of this time has been spent out in the open under the stars. I have never witnessed a UFO in the classic saucer sense, but I believe they exist nevertheless (Even Jimmy Carter says so). While in England, enroute to Bangladesh, I bought and read Above Top Secret, which strengthen- ed my personal convictions. This past month the Association of Former Intelligence Officers and Na- tional Intelligence Counter In- telligence Association included UFO reports (Belgian Air Force Colonel Wilfried de Brouwer) in their monthly INSUMS (Intelligence Sum- maries). As a Chemical, Biological, Nuclear trained officer, I know that "the" government lied about gassing sheep in Montana with GB-Agent, infecting San Francisco with a virus, and the proposed use of underground nuc - lear demolitions to construct a new canal in Nicaragua. They denied Frank Powers U-2 over Russia, SR-71, and Stealth. Why wouldn't they cover-up UFOs (classic or other- wise)? I obviously don't know much about flying saucers, even though I have more than a dozen friends, in- cluding pilots, who are eye witnesses to UFO sightings. I know a lot more about people and I certainly know the intelligence system. I have ex- amined military records on Bill Cooper. I have spoken with him and listened to him on telephone recorded audio tape. I feel compelled to add my opinion to that of George Knapp, Ed De Mar and others. I am absolutely convinced that Cooper is a charlatan. There is no doubt that he has information concerning govern- ment cover-up, which is easily vacuumed from the presentations and publications of others. When I retumed from Burma's Golden Triangle with videotape of overlord Khun Sa accusing U.S. of- ficials of being his best customers, Cooper started saying that drugs were funding the secret government UFO campaign. Only God and Cooper know if he actually observed a UFO, but I don't buy his story about being a part of Naval Intelligence. I have a Top Secret Crypto clearance with access to Special Intelligence, which is clear- ly imprinted on my records. None of the Cooper file shows him to have these basic intelligence clearances, without which he would be denied access to classified materials. I also have been granted coded clearances which open doors when combined with a "need to know" to highly selected ''compartments'' of information. If Cooper were real, he would have long ago referenced the proper codes that deal with informa- tion he says was available to him. 1 believe Bill Cooper is a fraud. There is enough wrong with the govern- ment. Cooper types only hurt honest efforts to gain truth. His fare would be more accurately billed as ''enter- tainment.'' As Chief of Special Activities on the Army General Staff, I regularly briefed the U.S. Army Chief of Staff and the other generals. I know and have experience working with Ad- miral Isaac Kidd (former Com- mander in Chief, Atlantic) and his staff. There were no enlisted men on the "briefing team." Field grade officers (Major and up) normally furnish in- formation to these key decision makers. Classifed information is carefully guarded, especially the com- partmented information that Cooper refers to. Without the proper coded access and a need to know, you don't get in! I don't buy Bill's "testing" the government by mixing up code names (Majestic vis Majority). Every time someone produces information contradicting Cooper, he changes, adds to, or reveals yet another per- sonal revelation he read in the cloak- ed documents way back when. St. John should have had such access. Cooper has more twists than a snake. He is also dangerous. I listen- ed to a telephone answer tape where- in Cooper badgered, bribed, threatened, cried, and then later allegedly slashed the tires on a man's car. Cooper talks and acts like a number of other fakes I know. They seem to want someone, anyone, to do anything that might threaten them since to be that important would enhance their own self-image. In the absence of real threats they conjure them up. I don't begrudge whatever popularity or success he may garner- that is show biz. But I do feel he is hurting the credibility and honesty of sincere researchers at a time when we are facing a true peril from within. The secret government needs to be exposed and expunged before it turns us into economic slaves through King George's "New World Order.'' Cooperites dull our cutting edge of truth. I exhort William Cooper to stop his Bush-lip and focus his energy and resources on unmasking the real villains. This is the first time I have written a letter to the editor. Strange that with all that is going on, it would be to a publication I haven't read, about a person I hope-if there are ETs-will soon be beamed up. Please send me info on your magazine. It wasn't on our Pentagon reading list, but maybe it should be. James "Bo'' Gritz Center for Action Sandy Valley, NV * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * You bet Colonel. Send $18.00 for a years subscription to; UFO Magazine 1800 S. Robertson Blvd. Box 355 Los Angeles, Ca. 90035 Editor: I've served most of my adult life as an intelligence operative (In- telligence Officer, Delta Force; Com- mander, Special Operations, Viet- Nam: Commander Special Forces, Latin America; Principal Agent, NSC-ISA). Unlike William Cooper, I can prove this identity. I have been a Pilot for more than 30 years. My assignments have taken me all over the globe including Africa, Asia, Middle East, Latin America, et al. Much of this time has been spent out in the open under the stars. I have never witnessed a UFO in the classic saucer sense, but I believe they exist nevertheless (Even Jimmy Carter says so). While in England, enroute to Bangladesh, I bought and read Above Top Secret, which strengthen- ed my personal convictions. This past month the Association of Former Intelligence Officers and Na- tional Intelligence Counter In- telligence Association included UFO reports (Belgian Air Force Colonel Wilfried de Brouwer) in their monthly INSUMS (Intelligence Sum- maries). As a Chemical, Biological, Nuclear trained officer, I know that "the" government lied about gassing sheep in Montana with GB-Agent, infecting San Francisco with a virus, and the proposed use of underground nuc - lear demolitions to construct a new canal in Nicaragua. They denied Frank Powers U-2 over Russia, SR-71, and Stealth. Why wouldn't they cover-up UFOs (classic or other- wise)? I obviously don't know much about flying saucers, even though I have more than a dozen friends, in- cluding pilots, who are eye witnesses to UFO sightings. I know a lot more about people and I certainly know the intelligence system. I have ex- amined military records on Bill Cooper. I have spoken with him and listened to him on telephone recorded audio tape. I feel compelled to add my opinion to that of George Knapp, Ed De Mar and others. I am absolutely convinced that Cooper is a charlatan. There is no doubt that he has information concerning govern- ment cover-up, which is easily vacuumed from the presentations and publications of others. When I retumed from Burma's Golden Triangle with videotape of overlord Khun Sa accusing U.S. of- ficials of being his best customers, Cooper started saying that drugs were funding the secret government UFO campaign. Only God and Cooper know if he actually observed a UFO, but I don't buy his story about being a part of Naval Intelligence. I have a Top Secret Crypto clearance with access to Special Intelligence, which is clear- ly imprinted on my records. None of the Cooper file shows him to have these basic intelligence clearances, without which he would be denied access to classified materials. I also have been granted coded clearances which open doors when combined with a "need to know" to highly selected ''compartments'' of information. If Cooper were real, he would have long ago referenced the proper codes that deal with informa- tion he says was available to him. 1 believe Bill Cooper is a fraud. There is enough wrong with the govern- ment. Cooper types only hurt honest efforts to gain truth. His fare would be more accurately billed as ''enter- tainment.'' As Chief of Special Activities on the Army General Staff, I regularly briefed the U.S. Army Chief of Staff and the other generals. I know and have experience working with Ad- miral Isaac Kidd (former Com- mander in Chief, Atlantic) and his staff. There were no enlisted men on the "briefing team." Field grade officers (Major and up) normally furnish in- formation to these key decision makers. Classifed information is carefully guarded, especially the com- partmented information that Cooper refers to. Without the proper coded access and a need to know, you don't get in! I don't buy Bill's "testing" the government by mixing up code names (Majestic vis Majority). Every time someone produces information contradicting Cooper, he changes, adds to, or reveals yet another per- sonal revelation he read in the cloak- ed documents way back when. St. John should have had such access. Cooper has more twists than a snake. He is also dangerous. I listen- ed to a telephone answer tape where- in Cooper badgered, bribed, threatened, cried, and then later allegedly slashed the tires on a man's car. Cooper talks and acts like a seem to want someone, anyone, to do anything that might threaten them since to be that important would enhance their own self-image. In the absence of real threats they conjure them up. I don't begrudge whatever popularity or success he may garner- that is show biz. But I do feel he is hurting the credibility and honesty of sincere researchers at a time when we are facing a true peril from within. The secret government needs to be exposed and expunged before it turns us into economic slaves through King George's "New World Order.'' Cooperites dull our cutting edge of truth. I exhort William Cooper to stop his Bush-lip and focus his energy and resources on unmasking the real villains. This is the first time I have written a letter to the editor. Strange that with all that is going on, it would be to a publication I haven't read, about a person I hope-if there are ETs-will soon be beamed up. Please send me info on your magazine. It wasn't on our Pentagon reading list, but maybe it should be. James "Bo'' Gritz Center for Action Sandy Valley, NV * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * You bet Colonel. Send $18.00 for a years subscription to; UFO Magazine 1800 S. Robertson Blvd. Box 355 Los Angeles, Ca. 90035 -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker) Subject: Last but not least.... Date: 6 Jan 91 03:11:00 GMT One of the biggest draws in Cooper's more recent lecture presen- tations is a videotaped clip from the famous Abraham Zapruder film of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Lars Hansson, JFK assassination researcher and producer of the videotape, entitled, "The Truth Betrayed: Dallas revisited, " narrates on the tape how the Secret Service driver, William Greer, turns around and fires the fatal shot at Kennedy. In Nov. of I988, UFO first saw this video at the home of John Lear, who had also given the tape to Cooper the month before. Hansson gave the following statement to UFO. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * According to John Lear, Cooper was very interested in the Kennedy video at the time he received it, but it was not until they were both guests on a Las Vegas TV talk show with George Knapp in April 1989 that, much to Lear's surprise, Cooper claimed that he had seen verification of the driver scenario in the Navy briefing papers he claims to have read between 1970 and 1973. Cooper has merely been using the videotape as a sensational ploy to sell tickets to his events. I had told Cooper not to show my tape publicly in early November 1989, that I did not support the theory and hadn't since November 1988, and have never authorized distribution of the videotape to anyone. Although I have never been con- vinced that the driver fired a weap- on, and am certainly not convinced now, I had met in early 1988 at length with two other researchers who had spent years attempting to prove this theory, and it seemed that a compelling case existed to pursue an intensive investigation to confirm or disprove it. In the course of trans- ferring the original 8mm film to vid- eo, it was arbitrarily decided to tone down the color during the first trans- fer, in order to heighten the contrast of reflective surfaces in the film, not in an attempt to deceive anyone. The resulting tape was never in- tended as a ''final product'' or proof of anything, but simply as a spur to other researchers and/or financial backers to initiate a complete and thorough investigation of this ''angle.'' The tape was made only as a research aid, an admittedly rushed and crude one, and was not to be sold or distributed to anyone. The most immediate and obvious pro- blem with using it as proof is that there is no apparent muzzle blast or recoil from the so-called weapon, along with many other problems. I first met American POW-hunter Lt. Col. Bo Gritz in mid-May 1988, and Captain John Lear a few weeks later, and I showed them the tape in hopes of enlisting their interest and support in my investigative effort. Although Lear felt that there may have been some connection between JFK's murder and his reputed deter- mination to expose the UFO coverup to the public, this has never been even remotely substantiated. If any- thing, I believe the only aliens Kennedy was intent on exposing were the Nazis and fascists who had come to saturate the highest levels of the U.S. intelligence community, aero- space and defense industries. Unfor- tunately, Lear sent a copy of the tape to Bill Cooper along with his other research material, mistakenly believing he was a serious researcher. Since that time, Cooper has shown the tape to hundreds of people and sold copies (under his own label) around the world, according to his disttibutor, Stan Barrington of Lan- caster, CA. In early November 1989 and again in January 1990, I ordered Cooper to cease and desist, informing him that all the evidence I've gathered thus far disproves the "Greer Theory." He refused, claiming he saw 'all the proof' he needed in the so-called "Navy briefing papers" and that he would continue to show and sell it whether I approved or not. When I insisted that he remove my narration, since I did not want to be responsible for indirectly misleading the general public, he refus- ed to do that also although it was removed in the tape he showed at Hol- lywood High immediately after our talk. He claims now to have made his own ''cleaner'' version. On KVEG and KFI Radio recently, Cooper has claimed: 1) that I gave him a copy of the Kennedy tape and authorized him to use it; 2) that I made the tape for Lt. Col. Bo Gritz and authorized him to use it; 3) that I received my copy of the film from Robert Groden one of the premier Kennedy researchers, a specialist on the Zapruder film and author of two best-selling books on the JFK assassination) and that Groden had worked for Time-Life and lied to the Senate Select Committee about Greer's role in the assassination. I had not met or spoken to Bo Gritz and had never even heard of John Lear when I made the Kennedy videotape, and I did not authorize either gentleman to distribute it to anyone. Groden, who has labored tirelessly for more than two decades to expose Kennedy's killers, told me, "I would have been the first to charge Greer with shooting Kennedy if it was true. My copy of the film was taken directly from the original Zapruder print and my first effort was to zero in on the actions of agents Greer and Kellerman, only to discover that, while he turned around to look back at Kennedy TWICE, and stepped on the brakes instead of immediately accelerating, GREER'S HANDS NEVER LEFT THE STEERING WHEEL. The relection on the film is the top of Kellerman's head, and is not from a weapon of any kind. ''The Senate Select Committee never called me to testify, but I spared no ef- fort to influence them to call Greer for additional questioning. I have never worked for Time-Life in any capacity whatsoever.'' - Lars C. Hansson END -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vanth!jms Subject: Re: Paranet Newsletter 344 Date: 8 Jan 91 05:41:31 GMT From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer) >From: Clark.Matthews@p0.f4.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) >Subject: Re: Resonant Gravity Field Coils >Date: 3 Jan 91 05:33:00 GMT > >He got noticeably worse during his work at Colorado Springs & >Wardenclyffe. That was when he started his long obsession with >birds, especially pigeons. His condition stabilized after J.P. Morgan & >Westinghouse pulled the plug on Wardenclyffe and he didn't have >the funding to continue his experiments. Sounds like it was EM-related then. If it was purely psychological I'd have expected it to get *worse* -- lots worse -- when he was subjected to the trauma of being forced to abandon his work. > Read Margaret >Cheny's book on the subject 'Man Out of Time'. It's outstanding. I looked through it one afternoon a few years ago in the local college library. I agree, it was fascinating. >Tesla won the patent suit against Marconi, too. Tesla actually >demonstrated remote control by RADIO at the 1897 World's Fair. I had heard this. What a shame the legal system in this country can tie cases up for so long. I've also heard that Tesla submitted a patent for a laser or something similar, but the patent office rejected it. Do you know the details? >things 'snap back'. Indications are that the corresponding >'bubble' is much larger, volumetrically, than the 'bubble" >induced in our time-space continuum (meaning that the 'alternate >universe' is two or three times larger than our own??? you tell >me...) This is a new one for me. I wonder what that means? >weirder. Power fails regularly with the things, despite all >precautions. This phenomenon is one of several anomalies >associated with devices like these. Other anomalies include >capacitors that get colder the longer they run. Now that's a strange effect all right! Shouldn't you be able to show that to a scientist and prove that something downright impossible is going on, never mind the spacetime thing?! As for the power failing, I'd like to take the design and put it into SPICE and plot some waveforms at different points in the circuit. Just to see how much electricity we're talking about, if it should feed back into the power supply or control electronics. But it'd probably take an all-day hacking session for me, because I'm not that experienced with SPICE. >Watch it! Al Blieleck might pop up! Or Elvis. Or Jimmy Hoffa. >Or me. Now if we could get Jessup to pop up and tell us what he figured out just before he died... -- jms@vanth.UUCP amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms [.signature under renovation] -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vanth!jms Subject: Chuck Harder's 'For The People' show Date: 8 Jan 91 06:02:23 GMT From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer) Several people have mentioned Chuck Harder's radio show, 'For The People', in connection with Richard Hoagland. I also remember hearing about it during either the Lazar or Cooper fiascos. Could anyone give me some pointers to stations that carry it? Preferably AM, since I *know* none of the local FM stations do. Thanks in advance. -- jms@vanth.UUCP amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms [.signature under renovation] -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Hoagland's Mars Date: 6 Jan 91 19:27:02 GMT > I heard Hoagland interviewed last night on 'For The People' > (WWCR 7520 AM Do you have a schedule for this show? jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kurt Lochner) Subject: Hoagland's program Date: 6 Jan 91 13:01:30 GMT > I would appreciate it if anyone able to tape the program > would send me a copy. I will be happy to pay for it. > Hmmm, I think I've solve two problems here. One, my messages might reach you this time. Two, I've looked up the original message as to the actual transponder. Originally scheduled for January 6, 1991 12:00 EST? Westar 4, transponder 11 "Hoagland's Mars" So I'll be monitoring this AM/Noon to see what, if any is broadcast, tape will be prepared to roll/record.. Please aknowledge receipt of this message, later... -- Kurt Lochner - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kurt Lochner) Subject: Statistics Date: 6 Jan 91 13:08:45 GMT > > Lazar's Element 115 ..... > .................................. 2 0.3% Well, it said I got there, but... Now I have it figured out, here's something that I meant for you to get after I did some reading. "Out There"-remarkable yet kinda hurried, which matters little to me. I find that book to be pretty credible, though non-commital. Yes, it answers the question that's been in everybody's mind for some time, unanswered by any kind of authority (plural). So, great...there IS some kind of coverup, but what's being covered up? As I've said earlier, the Air Force and any others engaged in the subject have not generated a single reason or explanation to satisfy themselves to declassify anything of importance. Perhaps the outer "arms" of this galaxy, the Orion Arm being our district, are a little more crowded than even Drake's Equation permits? "Above Top Secret" hehehe, I can't keep from skipping ahead to see some of the more recent sightings. Again, we have the texts of MJ-12 and several plates of some pleasent faces, and some of the international sightings are really well done. It's not easy reading but it's interesting to find parts about the nuts/bolts. And that's what I really wrote to you about.. I've been making noises about the propulsion scenarios involved with these sighting. Letting the sightings display the overall characteristics of such a machine saves alot of guesswork. The international sightings pointed it out, at least to me, when one guy said that it sounded kinda like a refrigerator taking off. Later in the book, a guy that was present at some questionable crash recovery sight later on told his daughter that the craft operate on water, and that it might threaten the oil industry. To support this conjecture, I believe that if I was pressed to do so, I could find a significant number of sightings around water, and I recall some from earlier publications of observing hoses in the water. If you think that boiling water under pressure does marvelous energy transfers, try thinking about water in a partial vacumn...or ammonia, or even methane. So, in closing, I can see that my previous posting was pretty useless, I'll try not to waste bandwidth again until I've caught up my reading, but I thought that I might be able to add some useful conjecture as to what kind of "cover-up" might be occurring. -- Kurt Lochner - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kurt Lochner) Subject: Towards hardwares discussion? Date: 6 Jan 91 13:10:42 GMT Originally on ParaNet ET, I wrote to Pete Porro about this Element 115. I've some education in physics and think that I've hit on what the stuff might actually be. You know, there's something that bothers me about Lazer. The reports so far indicate that he's an Electro-Physicist but I've some doubts as to that. First off, there's nothing in Physics to support an element with an atomic weight of 115. So here's the new thread.... If there's some exotic "element" that powers these craft and assuming that nothing unusually different exists in the universe in the way of physics, then I suggest the following.. I'm not a chemist at heart and wouldn't care to take it up as another major, even for a Masters Degree. It does strike me that the discussions that I've had with Rod Wilson here about potentials of difference may apply, f'rinstance... An "element", with properties resembling to present day instrumentation an atomic wieght of 115, might be a new sort of alloy that can be fabricated out of two, perhaps three dissimilar metals by means of a furnace in hard vacuum with the eternal cold/background of "outer space" as a means of "super-quenching" the material into a solid before the base elements can separate. Do I need to explain "Quenching" of metals? Ok, so this alloy, when heated again releases an exothermic reaction of these base elements trying to separate from each other. Hmmm, I guess a good analogy would be like freezing a bunch of magnets together, with their "like" poles facing each other, in another media, water or something like that. Then you'd melt the "ice" and the magnets would "want" to move apart, just as they should, right? Now all we need to keep alert for is some kind of physical clues that might be byproducts of such a reaction. Potassium has been indicated. Heard of any others? All of the universe is constrained by physics, Einstein was most certainly correct, God does NOT play dice...... He plays piano and needs help tuning the damn thing! -- Kurt Lochner - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kurt Lochner) Subject: Friedman, Above Top Secret... Date: 6 Jan 91 13:23:28 GMT Previous text from a report reminded me of something that I read in "Above Top Secret"....in fact, it's something that I imagine Copernicus must have confronted, at least in a rather "heliocentric" universe...... > begin quote.. Ironically, Friedman points to Gallup Poll results indicating that 60 percent of Americans who have college degrees say they believe UFOs are real. With such a receptive constituency, why would government officials persist in what Friedman calls the "Cosmic Watergate" -- the cover-up and denial of the New Mexico crashes? Perhaps, some speculate, because it would be too embarrassing now to admit that some supposedly made-in-USA technologies actually were plagiarized from confiscated spacecraft. Friedman emphasizes that he's not as interested in uncovering past misdeeds as he is in encouraging future progress. "I believe we should have an 'Earthling" orientation rather than nationalistic orientation. The easiest way to demonstrate the wisdom of this is to prove that life forms from other planets are coming here. If we can do that, then everyone will be forced to look at our world differently, as a part of a galactic neighborhood." >-+-----end. In the book, there's a quotes from a Brazillian Air Force major about how the governments of the world were decidedly "anthropocentric" ("man as the center of the universe") on the subject of UFO's.... Remember Copernicus? And how he had to fight against a view of the solar system with Earth as the center? This tells me something, that even if there aren't other civilizations through the universe, we've at least helped humankind towards a humbler view of itself in the scheme of life and civilization...... Nahhh, can't happen here....... /&^) -- Kurt Lochner - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kurt Lochner) Subject: Hoagland's program Date: 6 Jan 91 22:44:38 GMT > I would appreciate it if anyone able to tape the > program would send me a copy. I will be happy to pay > for it. > Well, you aren't out any money this time. There wasn't even a test pattern, or text announcing rescheduling... We checked Westar 4 11 & 22 (11 with the other polarity) at 11:00 and 12:00 CST, nothing to report on this.... -- Kurt Lochner - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************