Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 347 Thursday, January 10th 1991 Today's Topics: Need information Re: Super 8 film light st Re: Paranet newsletter 34 Re: Couldn't resist Re: Fyi Re: Couldn't resist Eclipse Statistics Frank Edwards Edwards Pt. 2 Edwards Pt. 3 Need Information Need Help! Need information ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cwns1.ins.cwru.edu!aa440 Subject: Need information Date: 8 Jan 91 19:05:40 GMT From: aa440@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dale Wedge) I was wondering if anyone had any information on a William Weitzel who worked with NICAP during the mid-60's? If so, please let me know his status (alive or dead). If he is alive, please leave me his address and/or phone number. Also, does anyone know what happened to the files that NICAP had after it went defunct? Rick Dell'Aquila and I are working on a police chase of a UFO from 1966 and this information would help. Dale B. Wedge Co-SySop UFOlogy Sig -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG (Rick Moen) Subject: Re: Super 8 film light st Date: 4 Jan 91 17:15:30 GMT SR> Well...you may never get to see any original frames in person...but SR> 'Unsolved Mysteries' should be into re-runs soon, if nobody has a SR> tape copy. :-) SR> SR> Happy KNEW Year! <--- A psychic's New Years greeting. Ah, I love it! or, as Robin Williams put it: And now, heres a joke for us psychics... ... ... ... ..._We_ know who we are. Best Regards, Rick M. Xpress Yourself! -- Rick Moen - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG (Rick Moen) Subject: Re: Paranet newsletter 34 Date: 4 Jan 91 17:15:32 GMT MC> Welcome back, Rick [Dell'Aquila, of the Cleveland Freenet MC> UFOlogy SIG]! Glad to see you in here finally. MC> Hope to see lots of participation from you and your group in MC> Cleveland. The UFOlogy SIG appears to be a quite active group, and I hope more of their folks are able to participate. I've been getting Internet e-mail from another SIG member (pooling our ignorance on the Al Seckel story in _Saucer Smear_, and coming up dry). Welcome, Rick D., and please stick around! Best Regards, Rick Moen, Secretary Bay Area Skeptics P.S.: That other SIG member is UFOlogy SIG co-sysop Dale Wedge, who I see is also on here, now. Doubly welcome! -- Rick Moen - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG (Rick Moen) Subject: Re: Couldn't resist Date: 4 Jan 91 17:15:34 GMT MC> I transferred two pieces of mail that Rick Moen of the Bay Area MC> Skeptics uploaded to ParaNet Predictions Registry. I found it very MC> interesting and informative. MC> Thanks, Rick. You're very welcome. Our annual predictions review gets quite a lot of _angry responses_, curiously. Some people thinks it means we don't take the possibility of psychic predictions seriously. (We do, sometimes, just not from "psychics" who are consistently and thoroughly wrong in the tabloids.) Many people don't like the fact that it's light-hearted. What can I say? The following is my response to one such outburst from a Cleveland high-schooler, following the posting of our press release on Cleveland Freenet's Skeptic SIG: Dear [name] If you don't like the Bay Area Skeptics' traditional end-of-year review of pop psychic predictions, I'm sure you'd _hate_ James "The Amazing" Randi's Uri Awards -- for most gullible news story, etc. The award consists of a "tastefully bent spoon, suitably mounted in a flimsy and transparent base". Recipients are invited to announce the results in advance, through precognition. We enjoy having a little fun. How could you work on this stuff and resist the temptation to do a little annual shtick? So, the _Star_, the _Weekly World News_, etc., aren't the place to find "true psychics", you say? You may be right, but then _where do_ we find them? We've seen lots of excuses, some mangled statistics, some misinterpreted natural phenomena, and some not-half-bad magic tricks, but no psychic phenomena. Almost everyone we've seen has been sincere and forthright, but we've found no evidence of psychic powers among them. The "psychics" whose bad guesses we expose in our press releases typically charge large amounts of money for this stuff, often taking advantage of the unwary, the elderly, the poor and disadvantaged. Why exactly do you object to our pointing out that these particular emperors are naked? Would you prefer that they go on conning people, undisturbed? You say that the _National Enquirer_ is not "reliable", and that I should "take a look at my sources". I can only assume you mean that the "psychics" were substantially misquoted by the _Enquirer_, in the parts we referred to in our press release. How much would you like to bet on this? I don't ordinarily make wagers, but a sure thing is another story. So, tell us where to find these "true psychics", and we'l be happy campers, [name]. One last thing: You should know that, generally, the sort of e-mail you posted to me will not get you a civil response. Calling your correspondents "incoherent fools" and "phonies" doesn't usually convince anyone, and isn't too constructive unless you're hoping for the name-calling contest that often results, or for being ignored. In addition, most of your readers will be bright enough to spot an argument based on ad hominem appeals (launching personal attacks to avoid having to address issues), and will dismiss you as simply a hot-headed crank. I should hasten to add that I don't think you are one -- not at all -- and am just offering friendly advice to help you keep from sounding like one. On rare occasions, you may find it necessary to launch something bordering on a personal attack, in your e-mail. When you do -- then in particular -- do run your text through a spelling checker, and go over the grammar. I hope you'll take this advice in the spirit intended. Best Regards, Rick Moen, Secretary Bay Area Skeptics Xpress Yourself! -- Rick Moen - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG (Rick Moen) Subject: Re: Fyi Date: 4 Jan 91 17:15:40 GMT JG> Don, was the purpose of these new condoms for guys that don't want JG> their you no what to be seen? Or for the boys in MJ--. Ah, yes. The last word in camouflage. Regards, Rick M. -- Rick Moen - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG (Rick Moen) Subject: Re: Couldn't resist Date: 4 Jan 91 17:15:44 GMT 'round about 12-31-90, keith@pecan.cray.com (Keith A. Fredericks) spoke thusly: KF> Please try harder to resist, Mike. These things found their way KF> into the media as cutesy-cutesy news items. My theory is that KF> these are actually a new strain of insight-resistant viruses. This posting gives me high hopes that you intend to post a few insights, other than the one about how open-minded you are and how closed-minded sundry folk who have the temerity to call themselves skeptics are, with which you have favoured us -- oh -- at least a few times. Not entirely coincidentally, you may be interested in the following letter I've submitted to be printed in the February "BASIS", newsletter of the Bay Area Skeptics. OPEN)MINDEDNESS, AGAIN by Rick Moen Editor -- Dr. John R. Lee's topic (fluoridation) is a bit far afield for a skeptics' group, but when magician Bob Steiner asked my opinion on hosting him, my sole question was "Will he be interesting?" Answer: "Absolutely." For me, that was the end of the matter, as with almost all the BAS activists Steiner consulted. Thus, I'm surprised at the controversy. Some people feel we should refuse Lee a forum, or impose conditions never applied to other speakers. Why? Apparently, some think BAS exists to promote the received wisdom of science, shutting out unconventional viewpoints, which should be dismissed unheard. This attitude quite simply runs counter to the principles and purpose of the skeptics' movement. It would make a mockery of our intent to consider claims _fairly and impartially_ , albeit critically. It would reduce us to closed-minded, ideological cheerleaders of the science establishment. Worse, it would make us _dull_ DD preachers to the converted. Worse still, it might even make us _dead wrong_: Some mavericks just might be correct. We prefer to help people to _judge for themselves_, airing both sides. BAS has in the past had, as speakers and authors, UFOlogists, parapsychologists, creationists, and proponents of various unusual claims. They have always been treated with friendliness, respect, and appreciation. If I have my way, they always will. The suppression of unconventional views, and advocates of that suppression, have _no place_ in the skeptics' movement. The rest of us will benefit from being stimulated, entertained, and perhaps enlightened by exposure to a wide range of views. Rick Moen BAS Secretary -- Rick Moen - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Eclipse Date: 8 Jan 91 17:19:00 GMT RARE SOLAR ECLIPSE TO FOLLOW GULF DEADLINE WELLINGTON (JAN. 4) REUTER - A solar eclipse -- which ancient civilisations associated with death and destruction -- will darken central New Zealand soon after the deadline set for Iraq to pull out of Kuwait expires, an astronomer said on Friday. Astronomers from around the world will visit New Zealand on January 16 to witness the first ''annular'' eclipse to pass over a large body of land since 1976. But Graham Blow, Scientific Officer at the National Observatory, is hopeful the event will not spell war in the Gulf following the United Nations deadline of January 15. ''Certainly astrologers and doomsayers have used eclipses as portents of doom and gloom, but generally nothing's happened,'' he told Reuters. In an annular eclipse some parts of the sun's surface remain visible, thereby swamping the sun's faint and delicate outer atmosphere (or corona) seen in a total eclipse. The eclipse will be relatively long, about eight minutes, and plunge central New Zealand into twilight. People near Perth, Western Australia, and in northern Tasmania will also experience its full effect and most people in both countries and the South Pacific will see at least a partial eclipse. -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Statistics Date: 8 Jan 91 17:26:00 GMT Your postings do not go unnoticed. I have determined that we are widely read, but most people are enjoying the reading rather than posting. Every little bit helps....:-) Thanks for your participation. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker) Subject: Frank Edwards Date: 8 Jan 91 20:48:00 GMT Several years ago, I did an interview with long time UFOlogist John Keel. One thing that he said to me then has stuck with me ever since. "Each generation of ufologist has to re-learn what the previous generation already knew." One of the premier UFOlogists of past years was Frank Edwards. For the people that may know the name, but little else, Edwards was a reporter, and UFO researcher well known in the 1950's and 1960's. He authored a number of very important books such as "Flying Saucers, Serious Business". He also wrote a number of others such as "Stranger Than Science", and "Strange World". In each of Edwards books however, were numerous stories that chronicled what was going on in the UFO field. While doing some research on a story I am working on, I came across the following little gem from Edwards book "Strange World" , by Ace Books, that is copyrighted in 1964. As this essay shows, Ewards and others were able to prove the coverup that all researchers knew was ongoing from the government, not to mention some of the names that cropped out of this. Also, as you will see near the end of this. The "doom and gloom" scenario is nothing new in the field of UFOs. There were some very important people back in the 50's and 60's that spoke out on the "alien threat". At any rate, for your reading enjoyment. Strange World, Chapter 58 "Does Science Follow the Flying Saucers?" The world-wide phenomenon of the unidentified flying objects known as "flying saucers" constitutes one of the most fascinating stories of the century-and perhaps one of the most important in human history. These objects, in various forms, have been seen since 1947 in every part of the world. They have been seen most fre- quently in the heavily industrialized areas. A study of their appearances shows that they made systematic flights from one important point to another, as though they were mapping which they may have been. By the time they had ceased to be seen in numbers, one thing about them was well known to those entrusted with the responsibility of analyzing their activities: These strange craft, operating beyond the capabilities and control of any man-made devices, had visited every impor- tant communications center, industrial center, and military installation on earth. When this interesting and potentially ominous pattern began to develop, the government of the United States issued strict orders to prevent military or government personnel from discussing the objects publicly and provided stiff penalties for those who violated the restrictions. Commercial airlines cooperated with the government by ordering their personnel to refrain from mentioning such sightings in public. Airline sightings were to be dealt with only by written report to the company officials. In cases where the pilots did speak out in public, they generally recanted or became strangely silent on the subject, for reasons which can be easily surmised. In fact, I have a tape recording of a veteran airline pilot describing a strange object which paced his passenger plane. The pilot was subsequently silenced by the airline, which denied that he had ever made such a statement! When the world-wide compilation of UFO sightings showed clearly that they were engaged in a program of organized surveillance of the earth, culminating in their three memorable appearances in force over Washington, D. C., the lid of censorship came down with a bang and, by and large, has remained down ever since. By patiently assembling the bits of authoritative evi- dence which are gradually becoming more numerous and meaningful, it is possible to recognize the true nature of such procedures as the incredibly expensive space program in which we are engaged. Why the great urgency to reach the moon, which we are told is nothing more than a dead and arid orb that has sailed harmlessly round us since the beginning of time? Why the big rush to get there-NOW? And for that matter, why are we engaged in this head- long risk of life and fortune to get to Mars, which we are told is nothing more than a great frozen desert in the sky? There must be a reason-a compelling reason-for our frenzied activities in these directions. There is a reason, and little by little it is beginning to show through the curtain of censorship. Dr. Carl Sagan, eminent astronomer at the University of California, is also adviser to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration; is a member of the National Academy of Sciences; and, most important, is a member of the Armed Forces Panel on Extraterrestrial Life. Speaking to a meeting of the American Rocket Society in the winter of 1962, Dr. Sagan said: "The earth probably has been visited by intelligent beings representing an advanced civilization from outer space!" And he added that these space visitors logically would have built and maintained a base on our moon, on the side which man cannot see. In Decatur, Illinois, on January 9, 1963, Brigadier General John A. McDavid, Director of Communications-Electronics for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Washington, D.C., spoke at the annual alumni assembly at Millikin University. The University Public Relations Office, with approval of the General, pre- pared and released to the news media a report of the speech: "General McDavid said we must be prepared for the future. Our relation to other life in the universe is part of this future, for as the British interplanetary scientist and author, Dr. Arthur C. Clark believes, there can be little doubt we will ultimately come into contact out in space with races more intelligent than our own. "General McDavid added: 'Before long people may be forced to realize and accept as a fact that this earth is only an infinitesimal grain of sand in an infinite universe, that the human is one of many forms of life with which God is con- cerned and that others are far superior to us. " 'And, if this is true' he warned, '. . . our meeting with other types of existence in other places in the universe quite likely will increase the potential element of conflict rather than reduce it . . . .this imposes . . . an even greater burden of leadership on your generation,'he told the students." Is this the background information on which our costly space program is predicated? Is this WHY? Let's look at the record. On December 14 1962, our Mariner space probe sailed past the planet Venus, beeping its findings back to earth. It was a magnificent milestone for science but a fantastically expensive triumph for the American taxpayer. That series of radio messages cost us more than fifteen million dollars per hour-about fifty million dollars all told. And Mariner was but one of many such experiments. Beginning with our first satellite launching in February, 1958, we have launched ( or tried to launch ) more than fifty devices of various types: Explorers, Vanguard, Discoverers Echoes, Telestars, Samos, Tiros, etc. There is still another type of satellite, devoted to photography alone, of which we have at least five in orbit, although their launchings never have been officially announced. This means the American taxpayer has spent about fifty billion dollars on various space projects in the ten years between 1953 and 1963. Why? What grave emergency inspired us to embark on this program? At first we were told we must beat the Russians to the moon. cont. next file. -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker) Subject: Edwards Pt. 2 Date: 8 Jan 91 20:50:00 GMT cont. from previous. Edwards; Then we were told, more generally, that we must support the space program at any cost 'to beat the Russians." But our fifty-million-dollar Mariner shot past Venus can hardly be included in racing the Russians. There are no Russians on Venus. If there is a real urgency for this frantic drive into space-and there must be-then we must look beyond the offical statements for it. Especially as you will recall that after the Cuban crisis Assistant Defense Secretary Arthur Sylvester said that the government had a right to lie and to "generate news" if a matter of national security were in- volved. Following World War II we began to read news of "flying saucers." From 1947, when they first appeared, to the summer of 1952, reports on flying saucers were carried openly by the news services; newspapers front-paged many of the sightings. But the lid of censorship came down with a sudden and dramatic bang in August, 1952. That was the month sixty- eight of these strange glowing objects were over Washing- ton, D.C., all at one time-on the night of August 13. Al- though this event occurred less than a month after the discs had visited the nation's capital in smaller numbers, the August 13 incident was so well suppressed it was not even mentioned by the news services. However, the full story was carefully compiled in a document, published by the Civil Aeronautics Administration entitled: "A Pre- liminary Study of Unidentified Targets Observed on Air Traffic Control Radar." It shows the patterns of objects used in flight, specifies which commercial airliners they followed, and it describes them for the guidance of the government personnel who might be confronted with similar experiences. The lid of censorship is still on. Since then, we have spent a fantastic amount of money trying to get out into space ourselves. And we still are pouring money into the project, in many directions, at a rate which threatens bankruptcy. But we no longer are told we must do this to beat the Russians. Now it is being done in the name of Science- which is to the space prograrm what religion was to the Crusades. The first project to follow the appearance of the Un- identified Flying Objects was the many-nation rush to the Antarctic. Perhaps it was mere coincidence that Russia, Sweden, Norway, Canada, and the United States poured men, money, and materials into many projects which still are largely functioning in the Antarctic; that Argentina, Chile, Australia, France, Great Britain, and the United States all sent expeditions into the Antarctic in 1948. Russia and Swe- den joined the rush a year later. This means that within a twenty-four-month period following the appearance of UFO's at the South Polar regions, more nations sent more men and ships and gear into that area than in all the preceding two hundred years! At any rate, expeditions to the South Pole produced two very tangible developments: First, the motion-and-still-pic- tures of the disc-shaped objects which circled the ships under Chilean Commander Orrego; second, the realization that these objects presumably were entering our atmosphere at the polar regions for a good reason. Did it mean there was some invisible obstacle out in space above our equator, as a few scientists had cautiously theorized early in this century? At the time we had no way of knowing but, as soon as we were able to contrive rockets capable of reaching ex- treme altitudes with the necessary instruments, we directed our attention to answering the question. On March 2, 1958, it was announced that two of our Explorer satellites had confirmed the existence of a belt of intense radiation circling the earth about six hundred miles out from the equator. This zone we now call the Van Allen belt. There is no such belt above either of our polar regions and the confirmation of its existence evidently came as a surprise to our scientists, for the NEW YORK Times quotes them as saying that the radiation was a thousand times more powerful than they had estimated. When it appeared that the UFO's preferred to enter our atmosphere only at the poles, science began to examine space over our equator and found the radiation belt. Coincidence? After the skies of the earth were invaded by innumerable disc-shaped devices which seemed to defy gravity, Can- ada, the scene of so many UFO appearances, set up a project under Dr. Wilbur B. Smith. Canadian equipment was adequate, rather than elaborate. Dr. Smith was a dis- tinguished electronics engineer and an authority on geo- magnetics. He and his staff soon noted that whenever one of these UFO's came within range of their gear, there was a sharp disturbance of the earth's magnetic field in that area. In other words, there was gravitational distortion induced by some phase of the disc's operations. Two years after the Canadian investigation began, Dr. Smith was in Washington to attend an international confer- ence on broadcast wave-length problems. In an interview he said: "From the weight of evidence, I believe that the 'flying saucers' come from outer space. And I think their appearance is what suddenly increased your govemment's interest in space travel and an artifcial satellite. Judging from your own operations I would say that your govern- ment is also vitally concerned with the secret of propulsion." West Germany, which had been the scene of so many visits by the UFO's, including some reported landings, named the world-famous rocket and space-travel scientist, professor Hermann Oberth, to head their probe. After three years of studying the information supplied by his own and other governments, the outspoken Oberth said at a news con- ference in 1954: "There is no doubt in my mind that these objects ( UFO's ) are interplanetary craft of some sort. I am confident they do not originate in our solar system, but they may use Mars or some other body for a way station. . . . It is also our conclusion that they are propelled by distorting or converting the gravitational field." Shortly after he made this remarkable statement to news- men at Frankfurt, Professor Oberth was flown to this country and placed under' security regulations as a con- sultant to his former student, Dr. Wernher Von Braun, at the Redstone Rocket Arsenal. These regulations prevented Oberth from making any more public statements until 1959, when he returned to Europe. As soon as he landed in Frankfurt he told newsmen there was a world-wide effort to learn how gravity could be put to use as a form of energy. And he added that he expected men would be traveling to the moon in electrically driven devices within five to ten years. The United States, said Professor Oberth, had made great progress in this field of research. cont. in next message. -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker) Subject: Edwards Pt. 3 Date: 8 Jan 91 20:52:00 GMT cont. from previous file; Edwards; Dr. George Gamow, the eminent geophysicist of George Washington University, says: "There exists a profound similarity between Newton's law of universal gravity and Sir Humphrey Filbert's law for the interaction of magnetic poles. And if one can shield electrical and magnetic forces, why can it not also be done with gravitational forces?" It has been obvious from the outset of our space program that the chemical-reaction rocket is not the answer to space travel. Too much fuel is required to produce too little usable energy. But if, as many scientists believe, gavity can be con- verted into electrical energy it will be possible to travel any- where in space at fantastic speeds. This seems to be precisely what UFO's are doing. Can we duplicate their performance, as Canada's Dr. Wil- bur Smith and Professor Hermann Oberth indicated we are trying to do? Just what has been accomplished I do not know. I do know we have spent-are spending-vast sums of money and great amounts of time in gravity research. At Dayton, Ohio, the Air Force has a multi-million dollar institution, built and operated especially for this purpose. Govemment contracts for additional millions have been let to various steel companies and other industrial research groups since as far back as 1955, and renewed year after year. By understanding the force that holds man to this earth we hope to project man into space. This is still another branch of scientific research that has followed closely on the idea that the "flying saucers" already are utilizing gravity. Our space effort can be described correctly as a "crash" program-one that is driving ahead at full speed regardless of cost. This ordinarily would indicate an emergency that it may be-but not necessarily the type of emergency that is being sold to the public. The appearance of the UFO's in all parts of our earth in the late 1940's and early 1950's apparently jolted our top level authorities into believing the earth was under well-planned and systematic scrutiny-by someone from somewhere. Obviously we have no control over these craft and thus far we have been unable to match their performance. One phase of this crash program was the construction of giant radio telescopes-long-range listening devices designed to eavesdrop on the universe in the hope of intercepting transmissions from sentient beings on distant worlds. Or in not-so-distant space craft? Tesla and Marconi both reported strange, unintelligible signals in the early part of this century. Ohio State Univer- sity reported to the American Astronomical Society in August, 1956, that it had recorded interesting radio signals from Venus. Our first space probe, the Mariner, was directed to Venus. Coincidence? The moon has been the scene of some strange lights and sights in the past half-century, according to astronomers. It is spoken of as a logical space base for men venturing out from the earth to other planets, and so must be considered a logical base for incoming traffc as well. Extra-terrestrial beings con- ceivably would use the averted side of the moon, which is always hidden from us. Perhaps this explains why the Soviet's picture-taking Lunik, sent to the moon, devoted all its facilities to the far side of the moon and took not a single picture of the side where they expect to land their own first space travelercs! We have by no means dealt with all the scientifc activities which have followed our observations of the ubiquitous Unidentified Flying Objects. But I think we have mentioned enough to show that there exists a most interesting rela- tionship between them. It is diffcult to believe that our "crash" program is moti- vated by nothing more urgent than "scientific research." It hardly seems likely that after thousands of years we suddenly find ourselves desperately in need of knowing, for merely scientific reasons, the temperature of Venus and the depth of the dust, if any, on the moon. It does seem that the entire space program, intentionally or otherwise, is a process of trying to duplicate the per- formance of the Unidentified Flying Objects and of trying to trace their presumed path across space. Isn't there some other motivation well hidden behind the screen of offcial deception to which the American public has been subjected in recent years, behind our "scientific" ex- ploration of space? Major Patrick Powers, one of the Army's top missile ex- perts, said, "There may be life on other cosmic bodies that would resent our intrusion on the moon and move to force us off. To be prepared for this our space ships will have to be armed." Does he speak only from the military man's natural bent, or does he have some information which leads him to worry in this direction? General Douglas MacArthur, asked about the possibility ' of a third World War, is quoted 'in the NEW YORK TIMES on October 9, 1955, as saying, "The nations of the world will have to unite, for the next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations of the earth must some day make a common front against attack by people from other planets." Seven years later, addressing the 1962 graduating class at West Point, General MacArthur retured to this grim theme. NICAP Bulletin for October-November quotes him as saying, "We deal now, not with things of this world alone but with the illimitable distances and as yet unfathomed mys- teries of the universe. We are reaching out for a new and boundless frontier. We speak in terms of harnessing the cos- mic energy . . . of ultimate conflict between a united human race and the sinister forces of some other planetary galaxy; of such dreams and fantasies as- to make life the most exciting of all times." Is this the real motivation behind our space program? Do those in charge of it know something we don't know? Something they are not telling us? Or is it just one more coincidence in the series of strange coincidences so evident in our space program-in our frenzied effort to follow the flying saucers to the stars-and perhaps to disaster. END OF FILE -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Need Information Date: 10 Jan 91 00:32:00 GMT > From: aa440@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dale Wedge) > > Also, does anyone know what happened to the files that > NICAP > had after it went defunct? I believe that the files for NICAP are now the property of CUFOS. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou.Zucaro@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Lou Zucaro) Subject: Need Help! Date: 10 Jan 91 03:53:00 GMT HELP! PLEASE! This is Lou Zucaro from The WPA Film Library. As some of you out there may know, we are doing some UFO programs for release (hopefull) in March. Anyway, there are some last minute things we're trying to get. If anybody knows the whereabouts of any of the people listed below, please have them call me (phone number to follow) or leave me a message here telling me how I can get in touch with them. Your help will be much appreciated... The common thread linking all of these people is that they all attended UFO conferences in either Reno or Giant Rock in the early 60's and were interviewed on film by Daniel Fry. Here are their names, although I'm sure if the spelling is correct on them: Wayne S. Alhold Lenora Croft Hunno Mayberry Mary Anne Francis Carl Anderson Again, any leads will help. Also, if anybody reading this attended those same conferences, please get in touch with me - I have many questions... Thank you, Lou Zucaro Assistant Producer, "Contact UFO" Phone: (708) 385-8535 or (800) 777-2223 Fax (708) 385-8528 -- Lou Zucaro - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Lou.Zucaro@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Need information Date: 9 Jan 91 14:45:00 GMT Dale: Welcome, guy! Long time no see. How's da fambly? > Also, does anyone know what happened to the files that NICAP > had after it went defunct? Contact Sherman Larsen through CUFOS, 312-271-3611. He's got 'em. > > Rick Dell'Aquila and I are working on a police chase of > a UFO from 1966 and this information would help. Any details you can give us at this point? Happy hunting! Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************