Abduction Digest, Number 35 Saturday, December 14th 1991 Today's Topics: Commumion Re: abductions Re: Commumion Re: abductions ASW Karten Re: abductions Re: abductions Bible The Watchers Strieber ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron.Harkins@f300.n238.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Aaron Harkins) Subject: Commumion Date: 6 Dec 91 01:41:26 GMT Great book! ---+++++--- (Aaron Harkins) ----+++++---- -- Aaron Harkins - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Aaron.Harkins@f300.n238.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob.Martin@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bob Martin) Subject: Re: abductions Date: 9 Dec 91 06:29:00 GMT I dn't believe in hassling atheists or agnostics; however, everyone agrees that there are at the very least "principles" of some sort that allow existence. I call the "principles" God. Sure, it smacks of semantics, but give it some thought...you may reply that these principles are not sentient nor self-aware, as most folks require of a supreme being; but what is sentience? All of existence is the "sentience" of the "principles"...maybe... The thing is, if you give this argument any credence at all, you acknowledge a -constant- presence of God... -- Bob Martin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bob.Martin@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob.Martin@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bob Martin) Subject: Re: Commumion Date: 9 Dec 91 06:36:00 GMT A friend of mine bought a house near Whitley Streiber's (said friend is also a writer). Streiber subsequently told a third party (who reported back to my friend) that Streiber was convinced that said friend was peering into Streiber's windows at night, trying to steal ideas. Have you read any of Streiber's fiction? Like L.Ron Hubbard, Streiber was writing some of the same stuff -as fiction- years before trying to pass it off as fact. -- Bob Martin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bob.Martin@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob.Martin@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bob Martin) Subject: Re: abductions Date: 9 Dec 91 06:38:00 GMT Whoops! I didn't realize that your quote came from the famous Sue Wide-of-the-Mark when I wrote my reply. I suppose she'll accuse me of the Pantheistic Heresy. I plead Guilty. -- Bob Martin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bob.Martin@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Passler@f10.n245.z2.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Passler) Subject: ASW Karten Date: 30 Nov 91 00:34:00 GMT Hallo, kann mir irgendjemand sagen oedr besser vielleicht schreiben, wo man in Deutschland ASW Karten (Stern, Kreuz, Wellenlineien usw.) bekommen kann? Am besten natrlich in Berlin. Vielen Dank im Vorraus, Michael -- Michael Passler - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Passler@f10.n245.z2.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morgan.David@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Morgan David) Subject: Re: abductions Date: 10 Dec 91 08:16:00 GMT AHH But what if one does not believe in a Supreme Being separate from oneself. What if they believe and therefore have proof to themselves that GODDESS exists! And what if they also have proof to themselves that UFO's exist and abductions occur. Whether or not anyone else believes them is inconsequential, because you need prove nothing to no one. BB Morgan -- Morgan David - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Morgan.David@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morgan.David@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Morgan David) Subject: Re: abductions Date: 10 Dec 91 08:22:00 GMT Thanks for your post! I have a question for you.... Is it not possible that the Gods of the Ancient peoples were perhaps Non-terrestrial beings who were here at that time....we really have no proof one way or the other, but it is theoretically possible, isn't it? Morgan -- Morgan David - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Morgan.David@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron.Harkins@f300.n238.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Aaron Harkins) Subject: Bible Date: 12 Dec 91 05:00:39 GMT The Bible is a very large book of UFO stories. Many things could be explained by visitors from other planets. Would not we seem as gods to a primitive culture with our science and medicine, although beings capable of long distance space travel would have a much more advanced amount of science? -- Aaron Harkins - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Aaron.Harkins@f300.n238.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: The Watchers Date: 13 Dec 91 03:45:00 GMT Has any one read "The Watchers" by Raymond Fowler, or "Perspectives" by John Spencer? If so, any comments? -- Keith Basterfield - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: Strieber Date: 13 Dec 91 04:50:00 GMT Bob, Hi, you asked about Striber's fiction writings. I read his book "Cat Magic" which was published in 1987 by Grafton, of London England. There are some parallels to "Communion" and "Transformation." Examples are:- 1. Page 26 "One of her most treasured talents was the ability to have detailed visualizations on demand. But they never came like this, unbidden. And yet, despite the fact that she was healthy and not in the least tired, she found herself in the grip of just such an uncalled vision." Compare this to Strieber's entity visits and his numerous comments on the detailed, coloured, 3D imagery he experienced. 2. Page 141. Character Tom the Cat. "He could feel the faint rush of microwaves from the newly installed motion detector in the centre of the room...when he wanted Dr Walker to come in here, he would trip the alarm, but not until then." Compare this to the visitors ability to fail to trip Striber's burgular alarm in his cabin. 3. page 288. The character Mandy is "dead" after being experimented on. A fly lands on her and lays its eggs: "...in the cathedral of her left nostril." Where do abductees reckon the needle is inserted, up through the nose. Bob, also worth looking out for is Strieber's latest novel: "The Wild",1991 Futura books, London. It's about a man who turns into a wolf. Some interesting comments in it about Earth and co-existing entities-wolves. -- Keith Basterfield - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG ****************A**B**D**U**C**T**I**O**N****D**I**G**E**S**T******************* Submissions UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!abduct Submissions DOMAIN abduct@scicom.alphacdc.com Admin Address abduct-request@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu Mail to private Paranet/Fidonet addresses from the newsletters: DOMAIN firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP scicom!paranet.org!firstname.lastname ****************A**B**D**U**C**T**I**O**N****D**I**G**E**S**T*******************