Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 350 Tuesday, January 22nd 1991 Today's Topics: Re: Scanner & Ocr Re: Need Information Marian Visitations (followup To Petit Interview) Newsletters Carp.ufo And Gulf War Re: Phenomenon Framed Again! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moderator Note: I'm still looking for number 20 and 68. Have received all the rest. -Cyro ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Houston.Mayer@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Houston Mayer) Subject: Re: Scanner & Ocr Date: 19 Jan 91 01:24:00 GMT Thanks for the reply. I'm running the scanman installed in my machine with my mouse on Com 1. I have my modem set to Com 3. I'm playing havoc on one of the local BBS. Didyou encounter any problems from your setup? Thanks for the tips on the scanner, I'll have lots of time to practice if I'm restricted from the BBS. Houston -- Houston Mayer - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Houston.Mayer@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dale.Wedge@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Dale Wedge) Subject: Re: Need Information Date: 19 Jan 91 02:12:00 GMT Yeah, I've left several messages on the good old CUFO's answering machine ffor Sherman Larsen. No answer yet. You would think such a big outfit could get back to you, wouldn't you? Anyways, I also tracked down who I believe to be William Weitzel of Bradford, PA., now Allegheny PA., who did the investigation of the Portage County UFO Chase in 1966. But, alas his number is unlisted. Everytime I get involved in something the people change their number or leave the area. I shower, trust me, I do. Anyways, trying to get info in this area is like pulling teeth. Rick, if you ever talk to Sheaffer, who I believe did an expose on this case, can you see if he would send me info on his conclusions, which I believe was one of a balloon and then Venus!!! It would be great reading. My name and address are as follows: Dale B. Wedge 126 Goredon Drive Chardon, Ohio 44024 216-285-9408 -- Dale Wedge - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Dale.Wedge@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f9.n310.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Marian Visitations (followup To Petit Interview) Date: 20 Jan 91 05:58:00 GMT From: Roger Black > As for the Virgin Mary, there is a lot to be learned by comparing > claims of Marian visitations with claims of UFO contactees. As I > hope to explain in a subsequent posting, the relationship between > these two phenomena may even now be altering the course of history. > (A grandiose claim, but you'll just have to wait a few days for > the proof!) My basis for this statement lies in 'The Keys of This Blood' by Malachi Martin (Simon and Schuster, 1990). Martin, for those of you who don't follow such things, has written a number of influential books on history, theology, and the paranormal, including 'Hostage to the Devil' (the most influential modern work on exorcism and possession) and 'The Jesuits' (an expose' of the inner workings of the Society of Jesus). 'The Keys of This Blood' is subtitled 'The struggle for world dominion between Pope John Paul II, Mikhail Gorbachev, and the capitalist West', which just about says it all. On page 627 of 'The Keys', Martin embarks on a detailed description of the famous 'Miracle of Fatima' of 13 October 1917. Briefly, on that day 70,000+ people in rural Portugal saw storm clouds part to reveal a silvery disk which they took to be the sun--but a most pecular sun which 'danced' in the sky, spewed out a rainbow of colors, dived at the crowd, emitted such intense heat that the observers' rain-soaked clothes were dried, and then climbed into the sky and once again became a normal solar disk. This bizarre event was immediately acclaimed by most of those present as a miracle; and despite initial attempts at suppression, and serious doubts by the Catholic hierarchy, it has gradually come to be accepted by many in the Church (including a number of Popes) as a genuine case of divine intervention in the natural order of things. Fatmina cannot easily be dismissed. There is no reasonable doubt as to whether the incident actually occurred; it was seen at close range by a number of 'objective observers' (i.e., skeptics and journalists) who confirmed it in detail. The phenomenon was also witnessed by lone observers several miles away, which would seem to rule out hoaxes, 'mass hallucination', or similar pseudo-explanations. Of course, it probably goes without saying that the incident has all the trappings of a classic UFO encounter. (One witness who looked at the disk with binoculars even claimed to have seen a ladder-like structure and humanoid figures.) If the dance of the sun were all we had to go on, we could pigeonhole Fatima as perhaps the grandest UFO event of all time (at least until the Belgian triangle came along!) and leave it at that. Unfortunately, the religious element of the Fatima sighting cannot be attributed to the overblown imaginings of superstitious peasants who were faced with the unknown and simply plugged it into the only categories they knew. For the Fatima incident was the capstone of six months of visitations by 'the Virgin Mary' to three young children who insisted that the Virgin had given them messages and signs, including three secret prophecies about coming world events. The dance of the sun, which they had predicted well in advance, was meant to be the final, definitive proof that the children were telling the truth about what they had seen and heard--as well as a warning to the world of impending calamity. Consequently, whatever it was that manifested itself to 70,000 people as a dancing silver disk had already repeatedly represented itself to the children as the mother of Jesus Christ. Two of the three prophecies became publicly known. The first was a general warning of sin and the wrath to come. The second predicted the outbreak of World War II and the malign influence of Russia on the rest of the world. (Not bad for 1917!) The third, however, was kept secret; it was written down and entrusted to the Vatican for safekeeping, where it remains to this day. The contents of the third prophecy have only become widely known in the pontificate of John Paul II. Apparently the prophecy has three components: (1) there will be a 'physical chastisement of the nations' by land, sea, and air; (2) there will be a 'spiritual chastisement' in which religious faith will all but disappear; and (3) ... Maddeningly, the third component is still a closely guarded secret; but it seems to be a detailed and sophisticated statement of a geopolitical nature which has to do with relations between the Communist world, the West, and the future of the Catholic Church. John Paul II has said that the third prophecy must be kept secret 'so as not to encourage the world power of Communism to make certain moves'. Others are more forceful; one Cardinal said in 1957 that the third prophecy should be buried 'in the most hidden, the deepest, the most obscure and inaccessible place on earth'. So how is Fatima, after all this time, relevant to what is going on in the world today? Primarily because of its powerful influence on John Paul II, and his influence in turn on the course of world events in Eastern Europe and the Third World. If Malachi Martin is correct, John Paul II has built his entire understanding of current events, and his strategy for coping with and shaping them, around the Third Prophecy of Fatima. He, like the people of his native Poland, has always been supremely devoted to Mary; but now, it is said, he prays to her as Our Lady of Fatima. Furthermore, he has apparently been blessed with his own personal vision of the silver disk, which came to him while he was recuperating from the wounds he received during the assassination attempt in St. Peter's Square. He received those wounds on May 13--the feast day of Our Lady of Fatima. -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f9.n310.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f9.n310.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Newsletters Date: 20 Jan 91 06:13:00 GMT > From: Ted Goranson <70142.2426@compuserve.com> > > First I want to say how much I enjoy your newsletters. > Second, if possible can you resend newsletters:337, > 338, 341, 342, 343? > If not, is there a telephone number I can get to d/l > these myself? > Thanks! > CIS 70142,2426 Just in case this got missed, you can request them via Info-para@scicom.alphacdc.com. Glad you are enjoying the material. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f9.n310.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f9.n310.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Carp.ufo And Gulf War Date: 20 Jan 91 06:19:00 GMT > From: User > > With the recent turn of events, can we focus a bit on > the validity of > what CARP.UFO may be telling us? I know I came across > it quite a few > months prior to the Kuwait invasion, but does anyone > have the exact date > of its release to the public? Was there, in the Don Ecker provided that file to us. I will leave it to Don to tell you the story of how he came across it. It is very interesting. As far as the rest of your posting, I find some events equally puzzling about the whole situation and feel it might be worthy of further discussion. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f9.n310.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peggy.Noonan@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan) Subject: Re: Phenomenon Framed Again! Date: 21 Jan 91 16:54:00 GMT Hi John, I've just found your reply here on the Denver link to Paranet (and thanks for the tip that they're available here!) -- sorry for the delay. Does she get to all the conferences/meetings or is it just some places she visits? I had the impression from the program that she sold her photos of the mysterious UFO visitors at these events and it sounded as if they were saying she made the circuits and attended all of them, but maybe they just meant she worked her local area. Nice to be able to talk with you here! -- Peggy Noonan - via FidoNet node 1:310/8 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@paranet.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************