Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 360 Tuesday, February 5th 1991 Today's Topics: Price's 1955 Abduction Phoenix and Pleiades: a Revelation or a Video Game? Belgium Update Belgium Update #2 Belgium Update #3 Belgium Update Conclusion Aliens to talk to us? UFO-Journal of Facts (none) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f4.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Price's 1955 Abduction Date: 4 Feb 91 18:36:00 GMT * Forwarded from "Fido UFO Echo" * Originally from David Stager * Originally dated 01-31-91 13:39 Price says he regrets telling story of being snagged by aliens COHOES, N.Y. -- For 35 years Richard Price has struggled with skeptics who say his story is out of this world, and they are right. Price, 43, told the Albany Times-Union Sunday he regrets ever having told anyone that he was abducted by extraterrestrials as a child in 1955, but now feels the need to tell his story to as many that will listen. Many have. Price has appeared on the television show "Hard Copy," been interviewed by Joan Rivers on her talk show and had a Japanese television crew show up to tape his story. He is currently working on a book, and hopes to be able to sell the manuscript so he can unburden himself from the past. Price says when he was eight-years-old, he and a friend were playing in Oakwood Cemetery when aliens appeared, ordered him aboard their craft, examined him for several hours and then returned him. He claims they implanted a small piece of material into his abdomen that remained there for years without discomfort, finally working its way through his skin in 1989. The material is now in the hands of a physicist from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who is trying to identify it. Whatever happened, Price said for many years people scoffed at his story and he went for long periods of time without telling anyone about it, and his family suffered also, until he began getting some exposure. "The kids used to get picked on at school, but it's not as bad now," Price said. He said he struggles to keep jobs and is currently unemployed, hoping his book will change the course of his life. "That's when I'll probably go on Carson or Letterman." he joked. Don Berliner of the Fund For UFO Research in Mt. Rainier, Md., said Price's story may in fact be true, and sympathizes with his struggles for respectability. "Skepticism is healty, what bothers me is bull-headed negativism, refusal to consider the possibility," Berliner said. -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f4.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neptune.convex.com!swarren Subject: Phoenix and Pleiades: a Revelation or a Video Game? Date: 5 Feb 91 00:12:55 GMT From: swarren@neptune.convex.com (Steve Warren) This is a response to a long posting by 'GBL', and since he doesn't give his actual name anywhere in his post, I will refer to him as GBL. +From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (God of Ultimate) + +-------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Hello. + +I am vey new to this group so I may discuss something that you all +have already seen, but I would guess from the questions that are +begin asked that you have not discovered a relatively new source +of verifiable 'inside' information on UFO's. First of all, GBL, I would like to say that I am disturbed by the level of credulity that you display throughout this post. Let's just say, for the sake of discussion, that the phenomenum known as 'ufos' is actually caused by intelligent creatures who are traveling in advanced vehicles through the Earth's atmosphere and who are from another star system. Please note that this has not been established, and I currently do not believe this to be the case. However, for the sake of discussion I will temporarily assume that this is the case. [...] +These books are the Phoenix Journals, and they also produce +a newletter, the Phoenix Journal Express. The chief author of +this series of books is Georgyos Hatonn, and he is an alien +from our Sister Constellation, the Pleiades. [...] What a throw-away line! ;^) Now please, GBL, you can't just make these baldfaced assertions as if they were self evident! Even if aliens *WERE* responsible for ufo sightings, why should anyone believe that an alien named Georgyos Hatonn from the Pleiades wrote these books? How do you know they weren't written by a crook or a kook who just wants a lot of people to pay attention to him? +They explain that they are here now and presenting this information +now because we are at the end of the present age ('end-times', as +it is referred to in Revelations and Daniel), and we need to +know what is REALLY going on in the world. We are 'Children of the Lie.' [...] OK, I'll go one further, then. Let's assume that the books were actually written by this fellow from the Pleiades. Let's further assume that these guys really *HAVE* been visiting us for most if not all of the history of this planet, and that most of our legends of the gods and the fairies and various other creatures are actually true stories of contact with these beings. If this is true then I have a serious problem believing anything they say to us. Why on earth should I pay any attention to anything this alien says? (Remember that for the sake of this conversation we are assuming a lot of things that I don't actually believe to be true). Do you know the history of these 'contacts' that go back as far as written records? Every time these guys show up they have a different story and a new way to dazzle us. They appear in vehicles that look like extremely advanced versions of whatever technology is current at the time - ie they show up with winged horses for ancient Greeks or Romans, in flying sailboats in the middle ages, in high- speed blimps or airplanes right before these were developed, and lately, in flying saucers. When people were able to talk to them they came away with confusing and contradictory stories that are never the same. Why is it that of all the people who claim to have been visited in recent history believe their visitors are from a different star system, and they all have totally different stories about the 'system' that is "in place" in the universe? It's like these guys (the ETs) can't get their stories straight. So even if they really are from outer space, which I doubt, at least all of them except one of them must be lying about what is out there, since they all tell a different story about what is out there. And I happen to be of the opinion that the other one is lying through his mouth slit, too. ;^) +I figured that the best way to introduce the books is to answer some of +the questions that have arisen in the last few Info ParaNet newsletters. [...] +In my King James version of the bible, the 'Sons of God' are the ones +who mate with the earth females. In my limited experience in reading +the bible, 'Sons of God' usually refers to aliens. +It says that the Nephilim were on the earth at that time. +I looked up Nephilim in my dictionary and +did not find it but did find 'nephology,' the study of clouds. Could +it mean that the 'People from the Clouds' were on the earth then? And just which verse explained this little known fact to you? ;^) Seriously, the Bible never states that 'aliens' as you have defined them exist at all. The Bible talks about angels and demons, and claims that all these creatures were created directly by God. You will have a hard time finding a verse anywhere in there to justify calling angels 'aliens'. Actually the phrase 'Sons of God' generally refers to any being who was created directly by God. So Adam is referred to by the Bible as 'the son of God', and the angels similarly are referred to as sons of God. Adam's descendants were subsequently referred to as sons of Adam (or of other significant individuals in the geneological chain), reflecting a parent between the individual and the initial act of creation. The Nephilim evidently were the offspring of a sexual union of human women and angels, according to Genesis. The legend of Hercules appears to recount a similar story. In Genesis it says that the Nephilim were the 'men of renown' in those days. +The Pleidians say that the beginning of human history as we know +it now, with a soul, a little good and bad in all of us, and with +Satan hanging around, begins then. See, every one of these 'aliens' has a different story. This one claims that Satan is a real being. Others say just the opposite. Which ones should you believe? Well seeing that at best only one of them is telling the truth (since they all have a different story), I would say that the odds that any particular one is the one who is telling the truth are pretty slim. +This Persian Gulf Thing is part of the fulfillment of the prophecies, which +they say were written by Satan rather than by God. People feel that +we must have our Apocalypse, but they insist that the (free) will of +humans can change things. We can make a better, less destructive +end to the story. For an interesting read, check out chapters 50 and 51 of the book of Jeremiah in the Old Testament. It is about five pages of direct prophecies against the nation of Babylon (current day Iraq) and Nebekenezer (one of Saddam's favorite names for himself, along with Saladan). Interesting descriptions of arrows that are described as 'skilled warriors' that will not return without hitting their marks, and a great coalition of nations brought together against Babylon from the ends of the earth to totally destroy their army. It is pretty interesting stuff. BTW, have you considered the possibility that these Pleiadean dudes might be the bad guys, and the guys that wrote the prophecies might be the good guys? [...] +The Pleidians identify Cooper as a liar/debunker of magnificent +proportions. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. ;^) + ... Also, they say that MJ-12 originally meant +Majority 12, and that it was initially headed up by Kissinger. +The Majestic-12 business was created because our then Free Press +was asking too many questions. If you can find the number of +the number of the Executive Order (EO), you will find, according to +the Pleidians, that it is out of order. EO's are written in +successive order, no matter who the president is. The number identified +as the Truman EO for setting up MJ-12 is a number that won't be +encountered for quite some time. I don't know how to look up such +a thing. Just because they tell you a few things that can be proved to be true does not imply that they can be trusted. That is the first thing every con artist does to set up his marks. [...] +You won't find any of these Journals in your major bookstores because +they are not allowed to carry them. The Journals point out a lot of +things that you thought you knew about history, the Hubble Telescope, +our Constitution, the World Wars I, II, and III, Kissinger, Rockefeller +are lies. This is not well received by our governmental leaders. There may even be one or two items in the middle of all of that that are actually true. How can you guess which is which? Ans: you can't. +The Belgian sightings are part of an gradual increase in their presence--in +other words, it's going to be increasingly apparent that the aliens are here. +There are MILLIONS of ships orbiting the earth. They have been and are in +contact with all the major world governments since long before Kennedy. There are some things that you just can't keep secret, no matter how hard you try. Real live aliens in contact with all the governments of the earth for the last 50 years is one of those things. There would just be too many people in the know. Once a secret of this magnitude reaches a critical mass of people it just leaks out. If this was really true then there would be enough people upset about it that it would have already come out by now. +Kennedy was assassinated in part because he was going to tell the American +people that governments were in communication with aliens, The +CIA/Mossad-run drug rings were getting out of hand, bomb shelters were +a good idea, and the Presidency was being made into a position of +dictatorship, which is being manifested now with Bush. Everyone with a conspiracy theory feels obligated to tie in the assassination of Kennedy. Otherwise conspiracy buffs wouldn't take them seriously. ;^) +Our Constitution has been destroyed by Executive Orders. No argument here. Except that I think there were a number of factors at work besides Executive Orders. +They expect the governments to eventually blame them for such things as +terrorism, eating people, abductions, near-future economic crisis, etc. If the shoe fits the tentacle, then those aliens ought to wear it, by golly. +(Remember Ronald Reagan was once quoted as saying the +Russians and USA would combine to fight a common enemy--aliens.) Hmm, you'll have to refresh my memory on that one. +The Pleidians are here to help us. Says who? That's what what we said to the Indians. ;^) +I recommend these Journals as the most important information +you ever will or ever have come across. Sounds more like a source of a lot of confusion, with enough actual facts thrown in to keep you hanging on every word. To summarize, even if a Pleiadean named Georgyos Hatonn *really did* write these books, I wouldn't believe what is in them, since 'aliens' are notorious liars. I wouldn't trust a Pleiadean as far as I could throw him. However, it is unlikely that a Pleiadean really wrote this book, so therefore you should trust it even less (if possible). BTW, do you find it even a little amusing that a '70s video game used both the name 'Phoenix' and "Pleiades"? I believe the game itself was called Phoenix, and there was a level called Pleiades, in which you had to blow up a flying saucer. Also you had to blow up a bunch of crows that would swoop back and forth across the screen on their way down. Sounds like they were tongue-in-cheeking it when they thought up the names of their outfit. _. --Steve ._||__ DISCLAIMER: All opinions are my own. 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Any comment in brackets [] is mine. BB ******************* EYES ONLY VOL. 1, No. 1 The Ufological wit and wisdom of Bob Durant or, the material I prepared for the New Jersey MUFON Newsletter but they wouldn't print. * * * PARIS MATCH is a slick French weekly something like a classy cross between TIME and PEOPLE MAGAZINE. It is very widely read and something of a journalistic institution. Although the reader can count on the latest gossip concerning Charles and Lady Di, each issue also contains serious coverage of political and scientific issues. Thanks to the linguistic abilities of my wife, I have translated an astonishing article that appeared in the July 5, 1990 issue. This recounts a series of sightings of a UFO over Belgium. There were thousands of witnesses, and the object was tracked simultaneously by two ground radar installations and by the airborne intercept radars of two F-16 fighters sent to chase it. But by far the most significant aspect of this case is that the Belgium government released all the data and worked in close cooperation with a civilian UFO research organization. To the best of my knowledge, this is unique in the history of ufology. Indeed it is the "political" aspect that prodded me to take the considerable time and effort to make this translation available to ufologists in the U.S. Please "network" this document as you see fit, remembering that the article (but not my translation) is copyrighted. Sincerely, BOB (signed) R.J. Durant * * * AN UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT ON THE RADAR OF AN F-16 by Marie-Theresa De Brosses The Belgium Defense Minister authorized us to publish this report. It is the "scoop of the sky." These two screens (see photos) [The article is referring to two photos of the radar screens in the F-16 which are derived from an internal recording device in the plane. Photo one shows the UFO as a diamond on the screen framed by short vertical lines indicating that the pilot has instructed the computer to follow the target. The comparison of the two photos supports statements by the pilots that the UFO dove from 2,000 meters (7,000 ft) to 00, indicating that it was below the 200 meter limit on the radar. This occurred in ONE second.] are the incontestable witnesses of a meeting of science & fiction. In an unprecedented action, the Belgium Air Force has released pictures of the radar images of UFOs intercepted by the pilots of their F-16 fighters. It was the precision and clarity of the pictures that convinced the Defense Minister to order full resources deployed in the gigantic chase of the UFO during the Easter weekend. PARIS MATCH takes you behind the symbols and numbers of these exceptional pictures to discover the incredible performance of those flying objects which are very real but nonetheless unidentified. We may not be the only ones in the universe. There are people in the military services who are normally silent on this subject but who now say: the UFOs are not a myth. On June 22nd, for the first time in history, an Air Force revealed an important piece of this story which is not science fiction. On this day, after going through a meticulous security screening, I find myself in the headquarters of the Belgium Air Force near Brussels. In a small room, Colonel DeBrouwer, Chief of Operations of the Belgium Air Force, started a video tape recorder. On the screen appeared the film that was brought back in the "black box" of the F-16 that was launched to chase the UFO. This, it turned out, was not really the important chase, which would happen two weeks later, when practically all of Belgium tried to capture the UFO. But until now we were not told about the one Colonel DeBrouwer was about to describe. -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f4.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f4.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Belgium Update #2 Date: 4 Feb 91 22:28:00 GMT <> The Belgium military had been on alert since November 1989, when numerous reports by the Gendarmerie (National police force) began pouring in daily telling of observations of UFOs above Belgium territory. It had started on the crazy night of November 29, 1989, during which 30 groups of witnesses, among them three police patrols, scattered over 800 square kilometers of territory between Liege and the German/Netherlands border, reported UFOs. All of the witnesses observed for hours a strange triangular object nearly silent, maneuvering at low speed and very low altitude, without creating the least amount of turbulence. As do the world's Air Forces, the Belgian military have at their disposal supersonic interceptor airplanes ready 24 hours a day to take off with five minutes notice. In this case we are talking about two F-16 single pilot fighters, armed with missiles. Headquarters was prudent and conservative. During the previous month the two planes have twice been sent in response to sightings but without results. The first time they saw nothing. The second instance was attributed to an advertising searchlight for a night club. On the night of March 30th, one of the callers reporting a UFO was a Captain of the national police at Pinson, and Headquarters decided to make a serious effort to verify the reports. In addition to the visual sightings, two radar installations also saw the UFO. One radar is at Glons, southeast of Brussels, which is part of the NATO defense group, and one at Semmerzake, west of the Capitol, which controls the military and civilian traffic of the entire Belgian territory. The range of the two radars is 300 KM, which is more than enough to cover the area where the reports took place. In this region the land is fairly flat, rolling country without any prominent hills. The radar has a perfect view of all flying objects with an altitude above 200 meters over the ground. Nevertheless, Headquarters determined to do some very precise studies during the next 55 minutes to eliminate the possibility of prosaic explanations for the radar images. Excellent atmospheric conditions prevailed, and there was no possibility of false echoes due to temperature inversions. All military and civilian airplanes are equipped with a device called a transponder which permits their immediate identification on the radar screen in the form of a coded signal. The radar echo received on that night was like that of an airplane that was moving at very low speed, about 50 KPH, and frequently changing direction and altitude. But it did not send any identifying transponder signal. Naturally, the Belgian Air Force can't permit an unidentified object to fly over its territory. So at 0005 hours the order was given to the F-16s to take off and to find the intruder. The lead pilot concentrated on his radar screen, which at night is his best organ of vision. The F-16 is equipped with very sophisticated equipment, including chase radar, which is not fixed directly ahead of the airplane, but makes a wide search in an arc of 90 degrees left and right of the nose. Slightly behind the lead fighter, the wingman in the second F-16 followed the movements of the first jet, concentrating on maintaining contact with the center of coordination of the search. Suddenly the two fighters spotted the intruder on their radar screens, appearing like a little bee dancing on the scope. Using their joy sticks like a video game, the pilots ordered the onboard computers to pursue the target. As soon as lock-on was achieved, the target appeared on the screen as a diamond shape, telling the pilots that from that moment on the F-16s will remain tracking the object automatically. On the screen is indicated the object's position, distance and speed. The object was very close to the fighters. On this portion of the video tape that Col. DeBrouwer has, in such an exceptional manner, allowed us to see, we can hear the radio exchange of the two pilots. The emotions of the pilots are clearly perceptible. "Look," the Colonel tells me stopping the VCR, and showing me the diamond shape on the screen, "At this stage in the chase in our military jargon it means a successful interception." Then I said, in layman's terms, what does a "successful interception" mean? He answered, "Our fighter planes are armed with automatically self-directed missiles. Once they are launched internal computers in the missiles intelligently guide the missiles to the target by themselves. Of course, in this case of the UFO there was no question of doing that. We only wanted to identify the intruder." The pilot did not even have time to start this procedure, which requires the fighter's radar to stay locked on for at least six seconds. But the object had speeded up from an initial velocity of 280 KPH to 1,800 KPH, while descending from 3,000 meters to 1,700 meters...in one second! This fantastic acceleration corresponds to 40 Gs. [A "G" is a unit of acceleration. One G is equivalent to the gravitational pull of the earth, 9.81 m/sec/sec.] It would cause immediate death to a human on board. The limit of what a pilot can take is about 8 Gs. And the trajectory of the object was extremely disconcerting. It arrived at 1,700 meters altitude, then it dove rapidly toward the ground at an altitude under 200 meters, and in doing so escaped from the radars of the fighters and ground units at Glons and Semmerzake. This maneuver took place over the suburbs of Brussels, which are so full of man-made lights that the pilots lost sight of the object beneath them. "In any event, it was out of the question for the F-16 to catch up with the object at this low altitude, where the density of the air limits the speed to 1,300 KPH. Above that speed, the temperature in the compressors of the jet turbines would cause the engines to burst," said Col. DeBrouwer. "There was a logic behind the motions of the object." <> -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f4.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f4.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Belgium Update #3 Date: 4 Feb 91 22:28:00 GMT <<>> Everything indicates that this object was intelligently directed to escape from the pursuing planes. During the next hours the scenario repeated twice. The Commander of the Belgian Air Force gave me a detailed report which had been produced by the Belgian Society For The Study of Special Phenomena (Sobeps) in cooperation with the Air Force. The report states: "In three cases the pilots managed to get their radar locked on the object, with the immediate result that the object's behavior drastically changed. The object literally played hide and seek with the fighters. It dived toward the ground to evade the airborne and ground radars. Then it climbed back into radar range in a leisurely manner, thus initiating a new chase. This fantastic game of hide and seek was observed from the ground by a great number of witnesses, among them 20 national policemen who saw both the object and the F-16s. The encounter lasted 75 minutes, but nobody heard the supersonic boom which should have been present when the object flew through the sonic barrier. No physical damage was reported. Given the low altitude and the speed of the object, many windows should have been broken. So, for the first time in history, a newspaper reporter was allowed to see a document which established proof of an interception of a UFO by a military fighter. I have seen on the video screen the flight maneuvers and the extraordinary changes in speed of the UFO. All the details of this affair are related in the report which has just been released by Sobeps. This collaboration between the Air Force of a nation and a private research group is without precedent and must be taken very seriously. Also, the competence of the civilian researchers is worthy of trust. This group includes several scientists with excellent credentials such as physicist Leo Brenig, Professor at the University of Brussels and August Meesen, Professor at the Catholic University of Louvain, who has belonged to Sobeps since its creation 18 years ago. On a television interview, Mr. Guy Coeme the Minister of Defense, declared that he had authorized the AIr Force to release all information at their disposal to Sobep. After having seen this dramatic sequence, I posed a number of questions to Col. DeBrouwer. First, could the object have been a radiosonde balloon? "No, the object acted as if it was totally independent of the winds, and we have done, among other things, a complete review of meteorological conditions. This is why we did not publish the report until now. We wanted to do a complete study to verify all aspects of the case. Our military defense system is not prepared for this sort of thing. We had to analyze and interpret the data from the recording inside the fighters." Is it a natural phenomenon, or perhaps the debris from rockets or satellites or space junk? "No, a meteorite or a fragment of a rocket does not enter the atmosphere in a zig zag fashion. The analysis of the radar traces showed numerous changes in direction, and the atmospheric conditions that prevailed precluded any electromagnetic phenomenon as the cause." But I asked how about the famous F-117 the American Stealth airplane, which many people think may be responsible? "This airplane is absolutely designed for penetration at low altitude. On the other hand it has a minimum speed of 278 KPH and the UFOs speed went down to 40 KPH. The F-117 does not have engines that can be tilted down for very slow speed flight. Also no airplane is capable of flying at 1,800 KPH or so low to the ground without creating a sonic boom." Then he gave me a telex sent by the Military Attache of the U.S. Ambassador to the Commander of the Belgian Air Force confirming that the Stealth airplane was never stationed on European territory nor did it ever fly over that territory. Professor Jean Pierre Petit accompanied me in my visit to the Belgian Air Force Headquarters. He once served as a controller for jet interception exercises. Petit is a senior physicist and a director of research with the National Center for Scientific Research of France. He has recently published a book entitled "Investigation of UFOs," published by Editions Albin Michel, and makes this strong statement: "In reality, there is no machine made by man either an airplane or a missile that is capable of such performance. Specifically, flying at the speed of sound without making a sonic boom. What degree of confidence can we place on this statement? The same as that in Astrophysics connected with the first detection of a Supernova in 1987 in the Magellanic Clouds galactic group. Proof of the existence of this stellar cataclysm we call a Supernova relies on this single unique observation. I am completely convinced that this type of UFO observation by radar has already happened many times over the past 30 years either by means of the sophisticated radar of the F-16 which is typical of that used by the world's air forces for the past ten years or before that by conventional radar. And those countries who have had radar contacts have kept the fact in strict secrecy to avoid public panic." But what is happening right now, what is the reason for this sudden revelation of the truth? "We are living in a time that is the beginning of a period of openness. First the Berlin Wall Crumbled, now the wall of silence about UFOs is falling. Concerning the UFOs we are entering a phase completely different from the earlier ones. It is the end of commercialism and fakery. The true scientists are finally making their appearance. Look at the work of Professor Meesen." "Sobeps has collected more than one thousand eyewitness reports from the UFO wave over Belgium. One report is especially interesting. On the night of March 31, at a location 30 KM southeast of Brussels, three completely reliable witnesses had a sighting. They were Lucien Clerebaut, Secretary General of Sobeps, Patrick Ferrym, a Moving Picture Producer, and Jose Fernandez. They observed a bright luminous light low on the horizon. The light got bigger and closer, and was seen to be an object of triangular form with rounded angles. It was carrying four spotlights and the periphery of the object had numerous smaller lights around it. As it passed over their heads at an altitude which they estimated to be 300 to 400 meters, the object had a diameter six times that of a full moon. Mr. Ferrym took four pictures of the object with a very high sensitivity film with an ASA of 1,600. As a control he photographed an ordinary airplane several minutes later, using the same shutter opening and speed." <<>> -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f4.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@f4.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Belgium Update Conclusion Date: 4 Feb 91 22:29:00 GMT <<<>>> "When the film was developed he got a surprise. The position lights of the airplane were clearly shown on the pictures. But the `spotlights' on the UFO, which to the naked eye had been much stronger than the lights on the airplane, were hardly discernible. The general form of the UFO, which had also been clearly visible, was lost on the film. It should be noted that the UFO was also much closer to the observers than the airplane." Recalling that a simple infrared ray can prevent some films from being exposed, Professor Meesen performed an experiment in his laboratory. Using a prism, he projected directly on unexposed film a spectrum of light, going from red to purple, superimposing an infrared ray on the lower part of the negative. When the film was developed, the spectrum of light is perfectly visible in the portion of the film untouched by the infrared ray but considerably attenuated, though not completely annihilated, where the infrared light struck the film." The Professor continued, "If the UFOs are really a physical object, and if they propagate infrared light, it would be quite normal that photographs would contain some surprises when they were developed. This could include the total disappearance of the object that had been observed visually. This would explain the very low number of pictures that we have received in this UFO wave as well as the failure to get close up pictures. Professor Meesen remained very conservative. As a good disciple of the famous scientist Claude Bernard, he is faithful to the Scientific Method, which consists of observing facts, then proposing hypotheses to explain the facts and finally accomplishing experimental verification of the hypotheses. To him it is absolutely essential to study this enigmatic file of UFO reports: "There are too many independent eyewitness reports to ignore. Too many of the reports describe coherent physical effects and there is an agreement among the accounts concerning what was observed. If all of these witnesses are lying, then it is a mental disease of such novelty and proportions that it must be studied. But of course there are also physical effects. The Air Force report allows us to approach the problem in a rational and scientific way. The simplest hypothesis is that the reports are caused by extraterrestrial visitors, but that hypothesis carries with it other problems. We are not in a rush to form a conclusion, but also to study the mystery." When I first met Prof. Meesen, he had not yet seen the document that was shown to me by Col. DeBrouwer. This was the Belgian Air Force report on the successful interceptions of March 30, which allowed us to understand why the military had placed at the disposal of Sobep such facilities as the F-16 interceptors and a twin engine Hawker airplane. The Hawker could carry a large number of researchers and many measuring devices, including an enormous infrared camera. During this eventful weekend, which drew in tens of thousands of witnesses, the military had put top priority on the UFO, but was remaining silent. They wanted to know more before speaking. The press was astonished by the "unsuccessful" hunt on this Easter weekend. But it is all clear now. We could not say that the UFO did not actually meet us, because there were many observations from the ground. But if the device had stayed under 200 meters in altitude, it would have been undetectable by radar. Now the sightings have dribbled off, the witnesses rarer and rarer. But the questions still remain. How disconcerting this wave of UFO sightings over Belgium! First of all, why Belgium? Why these thousands of witnesses in a six month period? In previous decades witnesses often described landings, but why were there no landing reports? Why the triangular shape of the UFO, reported by more than 90% of the witnesses? At the moment, all of these are questions without an answer. "For us, the release of this report by the Belgian Air Force and the confidence in us that it bespeaks is the reward for 18 years of work," concluded Lucien Clerebaut of Sobeps. Regardless of the frustrating irregularity of this phenomenon (waves of sightings mixed with long periods of absence), and regardless of the sarcasms of those scientists who are violently hostile to this kind of investigation which they consider to be a sort of scientific disease, a few eminent scientists such as Professors Meesen, Brenig and Petit continue their methodical work. Now is the time to help them. END PARANET FILE NAME: BELMATCH.UFO -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@f4.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vm1.yorku.ca!YSCS1296 Subject: Aliens to talk to us? Date: 5 Feb 91 04:15:47 GMT From: User Regarding the Phoenix books. It appears quite feasible that this is an attempt at getting people's names and addresses. Although I agree that perhaps we are being too paranoid about the 'authorities', and that we should have faith in their plan for gradually educating the masses, it is quite easy to see how many of us who are still basically lurking in the background while the rest of you UFO guys go out there, risk your necks, and bring us back information to analyse, would want to remain in the background. Therefore, if these Pleiades folks are truly out to help us, why not post the whole 300 pages in a special edition series of Paranet Newsletters, every day, for a few weeks? Or at least .ZIP them or something to download free and annonymously from a specified BBS. I must confess that this whole business of Pleiades people actually here to talk to us is really stretching my capacity to digest this stuff, but then again so far I've seen many weird things (not only UFO stuff) that make me believe that nothing is really impossible, only hard to believe. So if these 'aliens' are truly friendly (and who says they aren't the ones who are lying?) and if this isn't some kind of joke made by a 'skeptic' then let's get the whole schmorgasborg up to be read by everyone. And yes the reference to the Bible as 'sons of heaven' is in Genesis, Ch. 6. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave.Zidek@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Dave Zidek) Subject: UFO-Journal of Facts Date: 5 Feb 91 01:03:00 GMT John- I've been hearing about this magazine (UFO-Journal of Facts) for a few days and was wondering how I could get a copy. Do you have an address where I could send some money and possibly receive an issue? I'm sure others would be interested also. Thanks. Dave Zidek in Balto. -- Dave Zidek - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Dave.Zidek@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: conncoll.bitnet!gateh Subject: (none) Date: 6 Feb 91 00:16:01 GMT From: gateh@conncoll.bitnet + From: Michael.Corbin@f4.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) + Subject: Forteana Paper + Date: 1 Feb 91 16:02:00 GMT [much stuff deleted] + ... While Persinger discusses in particular the temporal lobes + within the brain and their role in psychomystical experience, Dennis + Stillings and others involved with the Archaeus project have been looking + at the human bioenergetic system as a totality and how EM fields may + actually influence perception and/or behavior. (Much of this research + is interesting in light of Carlos Castenada's descriptions of Don Juan's + art of seeing, where beings are seen as blobs of light with central discs + which are known as centers of attention. Don Juan and other masters were + able to shift the center of attention and in so doing literally wrench + the perceptions of their disciples to another reality. ) ... [much more stuff deleted] While such research is indeed interesting, I feel obliged to comment that Don Juan would probably derive considerable amusement from any scientific attempt to study the art of _seeing_ in a logical, systematical fashion. In fact, he continually asserted throughout Carlos' apprecticeship that as long as he attempted to rationally understand and explain _seeing_, he was thwarting his own effort to _see_. A technique which Don Juan claimed was a prerequisite to _seeing_ is the ability to _stop the world_, which I understand to mean the cessation of our continual conceptualization of our perception of the world around us, or, stated another way, it refers to the perception of the world without understanding in the normal sense. He asserted that things which happened in such a state may be talked about to the limited sense that they can be referred to, but that they cannot be explained in any normal way, and that as such rational thought (much less scientific research) was simply not possible. This was a comment out of the blue, simply meant to clarify some of the things referred to in the quoted article. I might also add that the Castenada series is a distinctly interesting and complex bit of work, and should be considered one unit. Interested parties should read the entire series before making any serious judgements - I would treat commentaries on this work (including mine!) with a critical eye (I say this only because I have read 'professional' interpretations of the work which I feel are entirely off the mark; thus it would seem that it is open to a number of different interpretations). 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