Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 408 Monday, May 27th 1991 Today's Topics: Uncle Sam's Moon Mountain... Uncle Sammites ARTHUR C. CLARK BAR Nuke 'Em! Flight 19 Gb Paper Re: WALTER.SAL Flight 19 found! Re: Meier, Stevens, Tucson and the Moon Re: WALTER.SAL WHERE'S WHITLEY? Re: Uncle Sam's Moon Mountain... Re: 'UFO Abductions' show on CBS Woo-woo Letter Letter (Pt 2) Conclusion Woo-woo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve.Rose@p1.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose) Subject: Uncle Sam's Moon Mountain... Date: 16 May 91 17:05:12 GMT In a message to Jim Speiser <13 May 91 23:29> Linda Bird wrote: LB> As I said, "If Hollywood can tell us about UFO's and E.T.'s, LB> why can't Uncle Sam?" Because despite anyone's claim to the contrary, Uncle Sam is not in the Space Fantasy and Amusement Park business. Although they *could* be keeping Hollywood in their back pocket for just such a purpose. ;-) -- Steve Rose - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Steve.Rose@p1.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve.Rose@p1.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose) Subject: Uncle Sammites Date: 16 May 91 17:08:56 GMT In a message to John Hicks <14 May 91 06:27> Jim Greenen wrote: JG> won't prove anything. The public will only believe the debunkers JG> because they don't want this to exist. What a beautiful job that JG> our government has done for the passed 40+ years, my hats off to them. And here I thought we just sit and push papers around the office for 8 hours each day. Tell me...what mystical powers should we be ascribed with that allows us to keep every valid sighting and contact down in the septic tank? Is one admitting that we are smarter that all those friendly 'Greys' could ever hope to be? Haven't they learned anything about field tactics in all those years...or are they too naive to even try a direct approach? :-\ -- Steve Rose - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Steve.Rose@p1.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve.Rose@p1.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose) Subject: ARTHUR C. CLARK BAR Date: 16 May 91 17:21:52 GMT In a message to Jim Speiser <13 May 91 10:15> Pete Porro wrote: PP> Seems that when I make a statement about why I believe what I do, PP> the answer from a small portion is "Your another one of those PP> debunkers aren't you!" Oh, shame, guilt, and whatever else is PP> being heaped on me. I'd say "The facts, just the facts..." Amen! PP> but leads to nothing. I am making a concious effort to no respond PP> in the future, and therefore avoid PP> conflicts and wasted space on this echo. There are good informative posts and wasted space posts as well. Don't be put off from joining in! PP> The Fox Sisters were one of the first cases of PP> contact with the dead. The lady confessed that she did the PP> clicking responses by clicking her toe joints. This is one of the PP> foundation cases for spiritualism from 1947 I think. More like *1847* so I do not think you saw any live confession from her. But yes...their history has been parially debunked, never the less. PP> other mystery miracles had confessions with them, like the never PP> dying flowers in the church. You mean someone admitted they watered them? :) PP> Biggest laugh for me was Uri Geller bending a spoon, and taking PP> about how much money he had made. Yet, his self-exposure and public downfall will long be forgotten, after the next generation of magicians have taken those same tricks and popularized them all over again as valid and genuine phenomenon. Some things never change... including people. :-) -- Steve Rose - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Steve.Rose@p1.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Nuke 'Em! Date: 17 May 91 17:07:00 GMT > Hmmm, that might work. Lemmee grab some and give it > a couple of kWatts. Nope, must not be the right > kind of grass.../&^). Brandenburg claims to have demonstrated the effect several times. BTW, the kind you're talking about is most likely too dry. ;-) > I'd think that the grass would have to be wet with > dew for this to work well in a field. I don't think that's a factor. I was speculating about moist heat a while back. Picture a stalk of brocolli; it's pretty stiff. Now steam it and it becomes limp, but isn't damaged. A microwave oven would do pretty much the same thing, with the plant itself supplying the moisture internally. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Flight 19 Date: 17 May 91 17:09:01 GMT CNN just aired a story in which treasure hunters found five TBM Avengers in 750 feet of water off Ft. Lauderdale. The story said the treasure hunters will be sending submersible RPV's down to look for serial numbers. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Gb Paper Date: 18 May 91 07:25:00 GMT MC> Could you elaborate on what it is that could "knock your MC> socks off?" I'll be abstracting and extracting from the report soon's I can. Per Bruce's suggestion, too. ;-) jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Re: WALTER.SAL Date: 18 May 91 07:42:00 GMT I've heard it said that Ed was involved in hoax ufo photos while he lived in Costa Rica. However, I've never heard anything more than mentions, and I've never seen any evidence. Know anything? jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Flight 19 found! Date: 18 May 91 07:47:01 GMT An AP story in todays Orlando Sentinel indicates that the aforementioned TBM Avengers are indeed the aircraft of Flight 19. According to the story, the designators FT were visible on the a/c, and the numbers 28 were also visible on one a/c. The leader's a/c carried the designation FT 28. Pretty conclusive proof. The article said that the a/c were in good shape except for the leader's, which had some damage, and that all were found within a 5000' radius. Bill English said tonight on UFINET that he's gotten confirmation from the USAF that the a/c are indeed the lost a/c of Flight 19. jbh -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Re: Meier, Stevens, Tucson and the Moon Date: 18 May 91 08:17:00 GMT ->great statesmen like Garry Hart and John, Robert, and Ted ->Kennedy have function effectively despite numerous alleged Great statesmen???? Gary Hart??? TED KENNEDY?????? Is this 201-451-3063....? -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Re: WALTER.SAL Date: 18 May 91 08:45:00 GMT In a message to Jim Speiser <05-18-91 00:42> John Hicks wrote: -> I've heard it said that Ed was involved in hoax ufo ->photos while he lived in Costa Rica. However, I've never ->heard anything more than mentions, and I've never seen any ->evidence. -> Know anything? Nope, not a word. I know he lived there, but didn't know anything about that. I spose it could be checked out, though not easily... Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff) Subject: WHERE'S WHITLEY? Date: 19 May 91 02:54:00 GMT {{ Has anyone on this conference heard anything from or about Whitely Strieber recently? He seems to have vanished from the face of this planet! I used to correspond with him periodically, but he has not responded to my last four letters concerning events that have occurred in the Chicago area Communion group. The same goes for Dora Ruffner, editor of the Communion Letter. This breakdown of communication is very disturbing, and leaves me with a rather uneasy feeling about the whole Strieber scenario. The last I heard of Whitley was on 9/21/90 on a CNN interview with Larry King and Howard Blum, where he stated that he's only told about "10%" of his story. Does that mean we can look forward to another 27 or so books? Can someone please enlighten me? For those interested, the following is a copy of my last correspondence, to which I have received no response: February 28, 1991 Mr. Whitley Strieber 496 LaGuardia Place New York, NY 10012 Dear Whitley, This is my fourth and final letter to you in regards to the rather nebulous structure and lack of adept leadership of the Chicago area "Communion" group. I really do not understand why you have not responded to my questions. To reiterate my grievance, half of the group was "voted" out at a clandestine meeting, by members that had never even met me or my fellow excommunicates. The group has become a small, secretive, cult-like coterie, which has no intention or aspiration of unraveling the mystery of the visitors. There is virtually no organized interaction between groups, and the Communion network (through which I have made many important contacts) seems to be disintegrating. I have been trying to locate a hypnotherapist for a witness living in a remote area of Oregon, but have had no success. I thought this is what the "Communion" groups were supposed to be all about. People helping people. Perhaps I am wrong. In any case, I would greatly appreciate your input in this matter if for nothing more than to reaffirm my belief in your earnestness and consideration. You stated in an interview with Larry King that you have only told about ten percent of your story. Don't you think it's time to get on with it? Individually, we are ineffectual, but as a group, we can work miracles. Best wishes, Sheldon Wernikoff 9200 Niles Center Road Skokie, IL 60076-1548 cc: Whitley Strieber Dora Ruffner -- Sheldon Wernikoff - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: Re: Uncle Sam's Moon Mountain... Date: 19 May 91 03:24:00 GMT Hi Steve, Good point! I think Hollywood is going to break the UFO story to us first. What if? Wouldn't that be IRONIC? (What's life like in Washington. D.C.? As I sit out here in this desert, I wonder...) Thanks, and take care, Linda -- Linda Bird - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Re: 'UFO Abductions' show on CBS Date: 20 May 91 06:37:00 GMT In a message to All <05-18-91 11:50> Michael Corbin wrote: ->Walton abduction and basically recanted the ->same stuff that we have thorough knowledge of. The second They glossed over a couple of important factors in that one. First of all, Walton's mother was conspicuously NOT upset by the abduction - was quite calm, in fact, and almost seemed to have expected it. Second, Walton did NOT pass his FIRST polygraph exam, a fact that was intentionally hidden until Phil Klass discovered it (giving the devil his due here). The reasons given were that Walton was still traumatized at the time of the first exam, and that the examiner conducted himself in a thoroughly unprofessional manner. I have read the transcript of the first exam and I can accept that explanation, but still, I believe it is incumbent upon TV shows, even on the entertainment side, not to be evasive on such issues. It was produced to inform, it should do so correctly. The other two cases I have not heard of, they are quite interesting. I'd like to see some more discussion of them. By the way, I thought the alien's costumes were the best I've ever seen. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Woo-woo Date: 20 May 91 23:26:00 GMT > From: well!ddrasin@apple.com (Dan Drasin) > Since everyone's perception is unique, it may not be such a bad > thing for contexts to overlap. I think it's more important for > people to be tolerant of, and to listen to, each other, than it is > to create more compartmentalization and more walls, more judgements > and more 'us-and-them' thinking. IMHO, we have enough of those > already. If we aren't forced to recognize other contexts, we'll > *never* achieve the critical mass of interdisciplinary, > intercontextual communication that's a *minimum* requirement for > solving the multidimensional UFO riddle. Some 'woo-woo' might be the > price we have to pay for this, but the alternative would seem to be > a situation that could set our understanding back many decades... > and that is no doubt precisely what some people would like to have > happen. I get really nervous when someone starts talking of mixing science with metaphysics. Why? Because, I do not feel that there is any relationship. Science is concerned with demonstrable, mechanical things whereas metaphysics are concerned with the esoteric and undemonstrable. For example, when Illya channels "Ramtha," there is no way to measure, quantify or demonstrate the process that is occurring. There is absolutely no proof that anything unusual is going on except to say that it appears that Illya is in contact with an agency. This is not solid proof of its authenticity. The discipline of science is this: If A can demonstrate something occurs, he places the procedures in his notes. A sends his work to B across the country and B is able to duplicate the process using the procedures that A has outlined and the phenomenon repeats itself. Back to the channeler. This person can repeat the procedures but it cannot be examined by A or B. It is totally up to the word of the channeler that someone is talking through them. Further, if the channeler could produce information that could be demonstrated to have been channeled that could be tied to a future event, and this could be done consistently, then there would be something for a scientific person to begin hypothesizing and formulating some models to begin work. Again, channelers don't even produce this kind of information. So, where do we go from here? Finally, personal feelings do not make a scientific fact. There can be no working relationship between a metaphysician and a scientist simply because there is no common ground. However, it is a requirement by all to have an open mind and to attempt to find a middle ground on the road to discovery. On another note, the lady that claims to be from Venus is totally outrageous. There is no scientific evidence that Venus is habitable by anyone. Until something more concrete breaks, if it even does, that supports the possibility that someone of human nature could live on Venus, I would say that there should be no room for a person with any ability to think critically to arrive at the conclusion that this woman is talking out of her glutius maximus. Sadly, though, the press is not intelligent enough to deduce that for themselves either and they print such trash to discredit the serious work that is being done. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly) Subject: Letter Date: 20 May 91 20:30:00 GMT I just recieved this in the mail today, from who i dont know but here it is in it's entirety. THIS INFORMATION COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE AND FREEDOM THE COMING "OFFICIAL" ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE ALIEN PRESENCE ON EARTH WHY "STAR WARS", THE HUBBLE SPACE TELSCOPE,THE SUDDEN FALL OF COMMUNISM? ______________________________________________________________________________ What is going on? Something very sinister is going on. Polls reveal that over 90% of the americans people believe in UFO's and 95% of these people believe the government is keeping this knowledge from the public. But Why? Are they afraid the people will panic if an "Official" announcement were made? Hardly. Such an announcement would create interest and excitement and many questions, particularly by the churches, but do not panic. Why then the continued cover- up? There is overwhelming evidence in the past several years from "Whistle Blowers" retired military officers who have finally said, "Enough is enough! It's time the government told the people the truth!" These officers, such as Navy Intelligence officer, William Cooper, Major John Lear (whose father founded the Lear Jet Corp.) and Air Force officer William English, to name but a few, have all discovered the truth, and at the risk of their very lives, are trying to alert YOU to the secrets behind the UFO's and the Alien Presence on this earth. These people worked on the secret projects, had access to 'classified' Top Secret documents , had seen with there own eyes 'captured' aliens, or extreterrestrial entities, UFO's and the incredible technology they brought with them. Sightings of UFO's have been reported throughout history, and biblical and historic references to "Flaming Chariots" huge flying 'birds' and odd looking beings predate our history by thousands of years. In the 1940's several alien spacecraft were recovered by the U.S. and other countries, along with a few dead aliens and one live one they named EBE (a name suggested by Dr.Vannever Bush and was short for Extraterrestrail Biolgical Entity). In 1953 astronomers discoverd large objects in space which were moving toward earth. At first they believed they were asteroids, but later evidence proved the objects could only be spaceships. Project Sigma and Project Plato intercepted alien radio communication and using the computer binary language, was able to arrange a landing that resulted in face-to-face contact with alien beings from another planet. Meanwhile, a race of human-looking aliens contacted the U.S. Government, warning us that the aliens orbiting the equator were hostile beings from Orion. These human-type aliens demanded we dismantle and destroy our nuclear weapons, that we were on a path of self-destruction and we must stop killing each other, stop polluting the earth, stop raping the earths natural resources and learn to live in harmony with one another. President Eisenhower rejected these demands. Later in 1954 the race of aliens, known as Greys, from Zeta Reticuli area in space, who had been orbiting the equator, landed at Holloman Air Force base. they stated their planet was dying and needed quarters on earth to conduct genetic experiments theat might allow their race to survive; this in exchange for certain technology. President Eisenhower met with the aliens and a formal treaty was signed. The treaty stated the aliens would not interfere in our affairs and we would not interfere in theirs. We would keep their presence on earth secret; they would furnish us with advanced technology. They could abduct humans on a limited basis for the purpose of medical examination and monitoring, with the stipulation that the humans would not be harmed, would be returned to their point of abduction, that the humans have no memory of the event. It was also agreed the alien bases would be constructed underground, beneath Indian reservations in the 4 corners area of Utah, New Mexico, Arizona and Colorado. Another was to be constructed in Nevada in the area known as S-4, about 7 miles south of area 51, known as 'Dreamland'. A multi-billion dollar secret fund was organized and kept by the Military Office of the White House, supposedly to build secret underground sites for the President and the staff in case of military attacks. Cont Next Message Mike Keithly -- Mike Keithly - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Keithly@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Keithly@f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly) Subject: Letter (Pt 2) Conclusion Date: 20 May 91 23:49:00 GMT (Cont from previous message) By secret Executive Memorandum, NSC5410, Eisenhower established a permanent committee known as "Majority Twelve" (MJ12) to oversee and conduct all covert activities with the aliens. This included FBI director J. Edgar Hoover and six leaders of the 'Council on Foreign Relations, known as the 'Wise Men' and later others from the Trilateral Commision. George Bush, Gordon Dean, and Brzezinski were among them. A major finding of the commision was the aliens were using humans and animals for a source on glandular secretions, enzymes, hormonal secretions, blood and in horrible genetic experiments. The aliens explained these actions as necessary for their survival, that if their genetic structure were not improved, their race would cease to exist. The ruling powers decided that one means of funding the alien project was to corner the illegal drug market. A young ambitious member of the Council on Foreign Relations was approached. His name is George Bush who at the time was preident and CEO of Zapata Oil Co. based in Texas. Zapata Oil was experimenting with offshore oil drilling and it was arranged that the drugs could be shipped from South America to the offshore platforms by fishing boats, then transferred to the U.S. shore by normal transportation, thus avoiding search by customs agents. The plan worked better than anyone expected, and today the CIA controls all the world's illegal drug markets. One should remember, it was George Bush who first started selling drugs to our children. The drug money was used to finance the deep underground alien bases. Conclusions: the Bilderburgers, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commision are the SECRET GOVERNMENT and rule this nation through MJ-12 and the study group known as the Jason Society. Throughout history the aliens have manipulated and/or ruled the human race through various secret societies, religion and the occult. The CFR and the Trilateral Commision are in complete control of the alien technology and the nation's economy. Eisenhower was the last president to know the entire overview of the alien problem. Succeeding presidents were told only what MJ-12 wanted them to know, and it was NOT the truth. MJ-12 presented each new president with a picture of a lost alien culture seeking to renew itself, build a home on this planet and shower us with gifts of technology. Each president has bought the story hook, line, and sinker. Meanwhile, innocent people continue to suffer unspeakable horrors at the handsof alien and human scientists who are engaged in barbarous research that would make the Nazis pale in comparison. As if that is not enough, many people end up as food for the insatiable alien appetite for biological enzymes, hormonal secretions and blood. At least 1 in every 40 Americans have been implanted with alien devices that are used to control them if necessity calls. By 1989 over 3 million 'Greys' are occupying these deep multi-level underground complexes. Level 7 at Dulce is called "Nightmare Hall". They have welched on their agreement on abducting humans; today over 25 million citizens have been abducted and implanted, a literal army awaiting oreders to march! (Whitley Strieber has written bestselling on his personal expierience as have many others). For this reason other nations were informed. Within 5 months the communist monolith Russia was dismantled to unite with the U.S. and it's technology to fight the invasion. The Hubble Space Telescope was created to keep a watchful eye on the invasion fleet; Star Wars technology has been developed to hopefully stop them in outer space before they can get to the earth. Today, the government is on the horns of a dilemma. Too may sources are releasing alien information. The public could get angry at continued secrecy. So MJ-12 plans soon to make an "Official" announcement, under controlled conditions, probably Area 51. Network TV will be called to meet the staged 'landing' of the aliens, these being the Greys. They will come bearing gifts, technology that supposedly will heal Cancer and AIDS, retard aging, etc. They will tell us they are 'saviors of humanity' who have come to defend the earth against an invasion of man-eating aliens called Reptoids. This story is a LIE, they already work for the Reptoids! Their plan is to unify the world into a One-world Government, a 'New World Order' with the argument that only this can defeat the invasion by Reptoids. This is a trap to enslave the world's population. Control will be accomplished through the money system, a universal currency controlled by certain international bankers, who for years have been lackeys of the aliens, who seized upon their greed and lust for wealth and power as a means to bring about their evil plan to control the earth. (This also being the scenario predicted in the Bible's 'Book of Revelation' wherein only those who accept the Mark of the Beast (the aliens being the 'Beast' and the 'Mark' being some sort of laser tattoo or Credit Card they will use, which will allow people to buy and sell goods). Those who do not accept this 'Mark' must live outside the money system and survive somehow on their own, through barter etc. SO BE AWARE! ONLY YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THIS FAKE INVASION AND FAKE RAPTURE CAN PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING. DEMAND THE TRUTH FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT. TELL THEM YOU KNOW ABOUT THE ALIENS AND THAT THERE ARE GOOD ALIENS AND BAD ALIENSAND THAT MJ-12 IS PROMOTING THE BAD ALIENS AND THE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT THEY HOPE TO CONTROL. Mike Keithly -- Mike Keithly - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Keithly@f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Woo-woo Date: 20 May 91 07:16:00 GMT Mike Corbin writes: > > On another note, the lady that claims to be from Venus is > totally outrageous. There is no scientific evidence that > Venus is habitable by anyone. Until something more > concrete breaks, if it even does, that supports the > possibility that someone of human nature could live on > Venus, I would say that there should be no room for a > person with any ability to think critically to arrive at > the conclusion that this woman is talking out of her > glutius maximus. As a matter of fact, during the very week that this conference was going on, U.S. News did a *cover story* entitled "What We Know About Venus" based on the latest info beamed to earth by good-ol' human-made technology. We now know that the surface of Venus is hot enough to melt lead and that it is a fair model of the way many people imagine hell to be like. Of course, back when George Adamski was trotting around the world on his "diplomatic immunity" passport, no one had a clue about what Venus was really like. Now that Wendelle has a new book out on Adamski, it is very important for him to get someone like "Omnec Onec" to tell the believers about the wonderful climate on Venus, to provide "support" for Adamski's idiotic tales. -- John -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com For administrative requests (subscriptions, back issues) send to: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request DOMAIN infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com To obtain back issues by anonymous ftp, connect to: DOMAIN ftp.uiowa.edu (directory /archives/paranet) ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************