Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 461 Tuesday, August 20th 1991 Today's Topics: Re: **** Warning ***** New UFO Titles! Re: (none) Aug, 1984 fireball Gulf Breeze survey ussr Re: CONTINUUM Alternative hypothesis for UFOs? Re: The Coverup UFO Talk... Re: Alien Liaison The Atlantic Monthly - August Issue SHUTTLE UFO's Re: Cattle Mutilations Re: survey ussr Re: Leslie Watkins/Alternative III Re: New UFO Titles! Re: Aug, 1984 fireball CONTINUUM Mailing Epilepsy & Dogs SHUTTLE UFO's ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James.Nugent@f14.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (James Nugent) Subject: Re: **** Warning ***** Date: 16 Aug 91 20:23:00 GMT Clark, This was quite an unexpected message. I had a mild migrane for the last few days. It has finally subsided or is just waiting for another stealth attack. I've noticed some changes in brain activity during and after migranes. During them I become quite a lucid dreamer. I have found that during and after migranes or some sort of great stress I experience an abundance of what I will call psychical impressions. I think most people sometimes dream of things that will come in the future but there are those as myself that often have hints of minor and occasionally major events which will happen sometime after the dream. The thing that ties migranes to these psychic impressions is that I also have them when I am awake while I have migrance of some other type of physical or emotional stress. I don`t think this singles migranes out as the cause of psychic or other phenomenon. If you have ever had a migrane you would understand just what it can do. I have had them for days at a time and they some have been so intence as to affect other mental and physical processes. Imagine being hit in the head a half-dozen times with a baseball bat and then having all the blood rush there and create an imence throbing pressure in your head. Doesn't sound pleasant does it? For all practical purposes I can see no reason to have questions about extra-terrestrials in relation to migranes on any questionaire. I have no knowledge of any possible correlation. There is a very slight possibility that all of those people who have experienced UFO related phenomenon all suffer from delusions created by migrane headaches.(hehe) Migranes can create dilusions though. I have not experiences anything vivid during a migrane. Sometime I have mood swings and afterward there is a kind of peace(void) in my mind. My mind becomes quiet. I hope that this helps. Best, James -- James Nugent - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: James.Nugent@f14.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul.Faeder@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder) Subject: New UFO Titles! 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Are you interested in making a SERIOUS attempt at doing this? Doug Rogers Echo Co-Ordinator -- Doug Rogers - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Doug.Rogers@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny.Brandenburg@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Danny Brandenburg) Subject: Aug, 1984 fireball Date: 15 Aug 91 05:50:27 GMT >I saw a large blue and green fireball once. I don't remember the year, >except that it had to be sometime after I was married in June '84 but >the date would have been August 11 or 12 because we were going with Michael, That is a great coincidence. I remember distinctly that on August 10, 1984 at somwhere between 9:30 to 10:00 pm there was a large fireball , with similar description, flying over my house. At the time, I was sitting at my desk in front of a large window. Suddently, something grabbed my attention. As I looked out the window, I saw a large light blue-green sphere flying west to east. Automatically, I ran out of the house and in to the front yard in time to see it fade behind the trees. I lived in a small rual area in east-central Kentucky. The area was not extremely populated so there were not many reports of the sighting. However, I do know of at least two other that saw the same thing. What are the chances of the object either being the same thing? Were there any reported or scheduled showers for that night? I am clueless. Danny Brandenburg -- Danny Brandenburg - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Danny.Brandenburg@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Gulf Breeze Date: 18 Aug 91 05:45:00 GMT The following is an excerpt of a letter to the editor of Orbiter Magazine written by Bruce Maccabee on July 19, and an open letter of rebuttal by Rex Salisberry dated August 6. It's no big major deal, but Rex asked me to publish his letter on our nets. When I can, I'll contact Bruce to see if he has a response. From Bruce's letter..... While doing the research for my paper I found that over a dozen people have claimed to have seen the object that appears in Ed's photos. Some are well-known (Charles and Dori Somerby, Jeff Thompson, Billy Zammit, Fenner and Shirley McConnell, Arthur and Mary Hufford, Truman Holcomb) and others are less well-known (several wish to remain anonymous). However, one of the witnesses was a complete surprise to me. Unfortunately I didn't discover his testimony until after I had completed the MUFON paper so his name is not in the list of witnesses in that paper. During an interview for the _A Current Affair_ TV show that was aired in early 1990, he compared what he saw to "Ed's craft." He said, "what he (Ed) had on the photographs looked exactly like what I saw." Who was this surprise witness? None other than.....Rex Salisberry. From Rex..... AN OPEN LETTER TO BRUCE MACCABEE Dear Bruce, It has recently come to my attention that you have been spreading the false story that I have "testified" to having seen a UFO which resembled "Ed's craft." You cite as your source an interview for the _A Current Affair_ TV show that was aired in early 1990. As you should well know, the context of my comments for that interview dealt with the red light sighting at the Pensacola MUFON meeting in September 1989. My comments in that regard were accurate. The dim red glow which I saw in the sky did resemble the dim red image on the photograph allegedly taken by Walters outside of the meeting place that night. Charles Flannigan and Gary Watson were also involved with the subject interview which was conducted in Flannigan's home. Both of these individuals should be able to confirm the context of the interview. Copies of the unedited video tapes of the interviews are also available to refute your flase claims. I have never seen, nor have I claimed to have seen, an unidentified flying object which resembled any of the photos shown in Walters' book. I have seen the UFO model which was found in the attic of the Walters' former residence and it does resemble some of the photos in the book. Perhaps this may have caused some of your confusion. Dr. Willy Smith, Mr. Phil Klass and others have assured me that, down through the years, they have considered you to be a man of high professional integrity. If they are right, I believe that it would be appropriate for you to publicly correct the false assertions which you have been making. A letter of retraction printed in the MUFON Journal would be a good start. I will not ask for an apology from you, but will just chalk the whole issue up as another of your mistakes. Sincerely, Rex C. Salisberry -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: survey Date: 18 Aug 91 05:54:00 GMT A little survey.....short, concise answers please. Do you believe that the Ed Walters photos are real or hoaxed? Why? Do you believe that the Ed Walters case is true? In part true? Hoaxed? Why? If you think that the Ed Walters case is true, do you think that the debunkers should be held legally accountable for their efforts to disprove it? If you believe that the Ed Walters case is a hoax, do you think that the "true believers" should be held legally accountable for their participation in perpetrating or aiding in continuing the hoax? -- John Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny.Brandenburg@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Danny Brandenburg) Subject: ussr Date: 18 Aug 91 08:54:45 GMT I just read in the Paranet/Hynek Ratings on UFO cases. I noticed that the Voronezh, USSR sighting was recently upgraded. I remember hearing about it on the radio and getting a AP feed (I worked for a newspaper at the time). Then, suddenly, I assumed it was a hoax due to what all the news wires had to say. Can anyone explain better what happened there and or direct me to the proper references? Thank you much, Danny Brandenburg -- Danny Brandenburg - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Danny.Brandenburg@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hrusovszky@f13.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Hrusovszky) Subject: Re: CONTINUUM Date: 17 Aug 91 18:45:33 GMT CM> Hi John. You're on the mailing list for the first issue -- but CM> we're experiencing delays on this end. Thanks for your patience. Thank you. Looking forward to it! -- John Hrusovszky - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hrusovszky@f13.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Powell@p8.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Powell) Subject: Alternative hypothesis for UFOs? Date: 18 Aug 91 01:21:04 GMT In a message to stl-06sima.army.mil!wmart <10 Aug 91 04:40> Clark Matthews wrote: CM> But what if they come from the past? Toward the end of the CM> Cretaceous, there was a very interesting little brachiopod that CM> had a brain bigger than a dog's. It walked upright and evolved CM> an opposed thumb. CM> Now consider: the entire span of human evolution spans about CM> 2-1/2 million years. The Cretaceous period lasted tens of CM> millions of years. In fact, the extinction of the dinosaurs may CM> have taken longer than the entire period of human evolution. CM> What if the smart little brachiopod grew up into a sentient CM> critter like the model that was on display at the Smithsonian? CM> What if the *dinosaurs* mastered time travel? You don't even need time travel for this scenario. 2.5 million years is a heck of a long time and these critters could have just grown up and moved on a very long time ago... Thanks, take care. John. -- John Powell - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Powell@p8.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kurt Lochner) Subject: Re: The Coverup Date: 16 Aug 91 20:13:29 GMT > Hello Kurt, > I have the article ready to send and will "snail" > it out to you tomorrow!! > Thanks Linda, I'll write back upon receipt with an impression or two.... -- Kurt Lochner - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: media-lab.media.mit.edu!kjohnson Subject: UFO Talk... Date: 19 Aug 91 14:30:21 GMT From: Keith Johnson Greetings to all serious UFO researchers - I'm fairly new to this internet newsgroup/bboard but I am impressed with the dedication of those who have researched this phenomena thoroughly. I just, myself, recently, purshased a new VCR (VHS) player and am eager to view any UFO sighting/tapes that might be ab available. Does anyone out there either have a tape that I could borrow or even purchase? Also, if there are sources where I can locate some tapes, I am interested in starting a private library to help in my own personal research. Please email me at kjohnson@media-lab.media.mit.edu if you know of such info ...thx..... Keith Johnson Boston, MA -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: Re: Alien Liaison Date: 19 Aug 91 07:15:00 GMT Hi Peggy, Got your message re: Bob Oeschler. My MUFON Journal is downstairs and my eyeballs are falling out. I'm just looking at personal mail for now. Let me see what I can pull together for you in a day or so. Sleepiest regards, Linda (ZZZZZZZ....) -- Linda Bird - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hpvclmd.vcd.hp.com!miked Subject: The Atlantic Monthly - August Issue Date: 19 Aug 91 23:15:56 GMT From: Mike Dobbs There is a ten page article in the current issue of The Atlantic Monthly magazine called 'The UFO Experience'. It is written by James S. Gordon who is a psychiatrist who attended Leo Sprinkle's Rocky Mountain UFO Conference in Laramie, Wyoming. It is worth while reading. On another topic... Linda Moulton Howe has just completed a 1 hour TV show through Henry Winkler Productions for the FOX network. I am not sure of the title although I think it is something like 'Mysteries of the Unknown'. Fox could not give me an air date as of yet so keep checking your TV listings. The show is supposed to be on UFOs and recent cattle mutilations. -------- Mike Dobbs / Internet: miked@vcd.hp.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff) Subject: SHUTTLE UFO's Date: 20 Aug 91 03:22:00 GMT The following article is reprinted from the Chicago Sun-Times Monday, August 5, 1991: _________________________________________________________________ UFO NEAR SHUTTLE PUZZLES NASA SCIENTISTS by Jeff Franks (Reuters) Neither a bird nor a plane nor even, apparently, Superman, the identity of the mysterious object that floated beside the shuttle Atlantis earlier in its mission continues to elude NASA officials. The object, about 5 feet long and slightly resembling a car bumper, was videotaped by the astronauts Saturday as it sailed along between the shuttle and Earth. A NASA spokeswoman said Sunday that the object was no longer visible from the shuttle. But the mystery remained. The National Aeronautics and Space Administration believes the object was nothing more than debris lost during the deployment of a communications satellite Friday, but acknowledges it cannot be certain what was out there. Nearly identical objects have been seen on previous shuttle flights from which satellites were deployed, flight director Phil Engelauf said. He said at a Sunday news briefing at Johnson Space Center in Houston that NASA engineers are still scratching their heads over the object. "We looked at the tape again and again last night and compared it to videotape from another mission", Engelauf said. "Except to say it looks identical to the debris we saw before, I can't give you anything new." Whatever it is, he said, it has not interfered with previous missions or threatened this one. _________________________________________________________________ That's all folks... Sheldon -- Sheldon Wernikoff - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Delton@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton) Subject: Re: Cattle Mutilations Date: 19 Aug 91 17:41:00 GMT >From what I've read, they don't seem to be able to pin down a specific cause of death in very many cases, if any. Also, in many cases they can't even find footprints around the animal from the killers. They often blame Satanists yet I don't recall a single instance of the supposed satanists ever being caught or of them even identifiying potential suspects. -- Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Delton@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Re: survey Date: 19 Aug 91 21:31:00 GMT In a message to all <08-17-91 22:54> John Hicks wrote: -> A little survey.....short, concise answers please. -> -> Do you believe that the Ed Walters photos are real or ->hoaxed? Why? Hoaxed. See photo #6. -> Do you believe that the Ed Walters case is true? In part ->true? Hoaxed? Hoaxed. -> Why? Same response. His case is based on his photos and his testimony. Since photo #6 is a palpable hoax, I have no reason to believe his testimony. -> If you think that the Ed Walters case is true, do you think that the ->debunkers should be held legally accountable for their efforts to disprove it? If it turns out to be true, I think any debunker who made any overt statement that turned out NOT to be true should be held liable. I include myself in that statement. I also think Dr. Willy Smith should be held accountable, if not legally, at least to the rest of the UFO community, REGARDLESS of the outcome. -> If you believe that the Ed Walters case is a hoax, do you think that the ->"true believers" should be held legally accountable for their participation ->in perpetrating or aiding in continuing the hoax? Those who can be proven to have willfully and knowingly participated in the perpetration of a hoax should have whatever applicable charges filed against them...although technically it is not a crime to perpetrate a UFO hoax, as far as I'm aware, there may be ancillary crimes involved. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: ussr Date: 19 Aug 91 21:34:00 GMT In a message to All <08-18-91 01:54> Danny Brandenburg wrote: ->I just read in the Paranet/Hynek Ratings on UFO cases. I ->noticed that the Voronezh, USSR sighting was recently ->upgraded. I remember hearing about it on the radio and Danny: Its not that there's any real GOOD evidence regarding Voronezh, its just that we came across some reliable reports that indicate the evidence isn't quite as BAD as we once thought. Apparently there was a spate of legitimate sightings, culminating in the media circus that we heard about over here. My sources include Antonio Huneeus and articles in UFO Magazine. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: Re: Leslie Watkins/Alternative III Date: 20 Aug 91 05:54:00 GMT Hi Peggy, Perhaps I read the file on Alternative 3 that Jim Speiser just posted, but I believe the author has said that the story was meant as a joke, but that people tookd it seriously, and the story some- what ran away with itself.... Keep us posted! Linda -- Linda Bird - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: Re: New UFO Titles! Date: 20 Aug 91 06:06:00 GMT Hi Paul Would you happen to carry a book by Jacques Vallee called MESSENGERS OF DECEPTIONS. It may be out of print. (boo hoo) Thanks, Linda Bird -- Linda Bird - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: Re: Aug, 1984 fireball Date: 20 Aug 91 06:12:00 GMT Hi Danny In your message to Mike Corbin regarding the fireball: The yearly Perseid Meteor Shower occurs right around August 10, and it could be that this fireball was part of that. We live in an area that gives good views of the night sky with little light interference. Last week my husband and I had a ball watching the Perseids. They can last for several days. Just wondering...... Linda -- Linda Bird - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) Subject: CONTINUUM Mailing Date: 20 Aug 91 12:05:00 GMT > > As long as I am writing, if you don't have my name on the > list for the first sample issue, it's PO BOX 17052, > Milwaukee, WI 53217 Thanks! Hi Pete. Actually, your name was on the list that I was maintaining here, which is being forwarded to Michael Corbin. > I'm not very good with astronomy news, but for some reason > the article I lifted the information from, concludes that > this is the first. I have a feeling that it is not proven > yet, so until then, it's just another theory. Fred Van de > Kamp may have theorized he found planets, and maybe he has > not been proven wrong or right, so it stands on it's own > merit depending on the viewpoint. In other words, it's > possible he did. > I'd have to check on this, but I believe that Van de Kamp may have won a Nobel Prize for his observations re: Barnard's Star & its "planets". To my knowledge, there has been no direct observation of any planet or planetoid outside our own solar system. So neither Dr. Van de Kamp nor the Harvard folks have been able to show us film at 11... Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) Subject: Epilepsy & Dogs Date: 20 Aug 91 12:14:00 GMT > Maybe the epileptics move or behave in certain ways that > the dogs have learned is followed by a seizure. Dogs > commonly anticipate their owner's commands. My dog usually > does. > Then again, epileptic seizures are characterized by general, cascading discharges of synapses throughout the entire brain (grand mal seizures are, anyway). Such discharges would create characteristic EM fields. Maybe the dog's brain receives the signals? "Hears" the grand mal episode before its actual onset? Without actually seeing or hearing the human in the throes of the seizure? For that matter, maybe your dog "hears" you thinking about your commands before you vocalize them... This whole subject is fascinating & we're just scratching the surface with hard evidence. Electrochemical brain activity is is highly individualized and very unique. In can vary drastically when the same person says the same thing in two different languages. I.e.: "Bonjour" produces totally different discharge patterns from "Guten Tag", "Good Morning", "Hi ya'll!", etc. I keep thinking of old Tesla, who said (with his quixotic smile) that radio, sound, microwave & other radiations were all really the same thing -- and he could hear most of them!!! Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) Subject: SHUTTLE UFO's Date: 20 Aug 91 12:23:00 GMT > Neither a bird nor a plane nor even, apparently, Superman, the > identity of the mysterious object that floated beside the shuttle > Atlantis earlier in its mission continues to elude NASA officials. > > The object, about 5 feet long and slightly resembling a car bumper, > was videotaped by the astronauts Saturday as it sailed along > between the shuttle and Earth. > Sheldon, I understand that the bumper-shaped objects were determined to be ice -- the result of rainwater accumulation in the aft part of the shuttle bay doors. > Nearly identical objects have been seen on previous shuttle flights > from which satellites were deployed, flight director Phil Engelauf said. > > "We looked at the tape again and again last night and compared it > to videotape from another mission", Engelauf said. "Except to say > it looks identical to the debris we saw before, I can't give you > anything new." > Possibly caused by water accumulation before those launches? Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com For administrative requests (subscriptions, back issues) send to: UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request DOMAIN infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com To obtain back issues by anonymous ftp, connect to: DOMAIN ftp.uiowa.edu (directory /archives/paranet) ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************