Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 521 Wednesday, January 15th 1992 Today's Topics: Roswell Investigation MJ-12 and Bill Moore Omni Online Bruce Cathie & Stan Deyo Conference Re: Verbal Abuse Nephilim An Interesting Development ... Circles down under 1 Circles down under 2 Circles down under 3 Circles down under 4 Re: AVRO Car Texas Camps Re: Nephilim Roswell Investigation Roswell Investigation Suicides? Noriega Trial Suicides? Ufo Magazine Mistake Radio Isotopes found in Corn Doug and Dave in Australia??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@p666.f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Roswell Investigation Date: 3 Jan 92 06:18:42 GMT In a message to All <01 Jan 92 19:05> Sheldon Wernikoff wrote: SW> ------------------------------------------------------------------ SW> ___ Project A -- To conduct further research into UFO SW> crash/retrieval cases (Leonard Stringfield): $1,200 SW> ___ Project B -- To interview six additional witnesses SW> (Don Schmitt): $1,700 SW> ___ Project C -- To conduct hypnosis sessions with known and SW> potential witnesses (Stanton Friedman): $15,860 SW> ___ Project D -- To conduct further research at the Truman and SW> Eisenhower Libraries, the Sandia and Los Alamos Laboratories, and SW> at the Library of Congress (Stanton Friedman): $6,545 SW> ___ Project E -- To produce a follow-up videotaped summary of SW> witness testimony (Fred Whiting): $500 SW> ___ Project F -- To bring significant witnesses to Washington, DC, SW> for a de-briefing by congressional staff and interviews with media SW> representatives (Fred Whiting) $5,700 SW> Any further suggestions:.............. SW> ------------------------------------------------------------------ SW> My personal order of importance would be F (absolutely!),D,A,C,E,B SW> Sheldon Mine would be F E D B A C (with almost no emphasis whatsoever on the last two. I am also going to propose a Project G, which would be a comprehensive PLAN OF ACTION, combining elements from several of these projects into a cohesive whole, with the ultimate goal being Congressional hearings. It would involve preliminary interviews with Congressional staffers to ascertain just exactly what would attract the attention of Congresscritters, assembling the needed evidence, gathering the witnesses together for a first round of talks with the staffers, getting the staffers to lobby their bosses to RESCIND ALL OATHS OF SECRECY REGARDING ROSWELL, using this declaration to gather more witnesses, then bringing it all together for public hearings. Doing it piecemeal is not going to cut it with Congress, there MUST be a plan. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@p666.f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: col.hp.com!THURMAN_JIM/HPATC_01%hpcsee.col.hp.com Subject: MJ-12 and Bill Moore Date: 3 Jan 92 22:44:51 GMT From: THURMAN_JIM/HPATC_01%hpcsee.col.hp.com@col.hp.com To All: I have been trying to find out the latest on the MJ-12 documents and what has happened to Bill Moore. My understanding from reading the literature is that the MJ-12 papers were considered, by most researchers, to be faked... possibly by Moore himself. If anyone has up-to-date information on this I would greatly appreciate it. Also any new info on the Groome Lake (Area 51) happenings would be of great interest. Thanks in advance for any help! Jim Thurman INTERNET: 70322.1607@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan) Subject: Omni Online Date: 3 Jan 92 22:26:02 GMT >I've noticed that in the last 2 issues of _Omni_ there has been >no "Antimatter" section and hence, no "UFO Update". Did they >drop it or what? I'm going to have to call and find out what's going on. Last they told me was it and Continuum were their two most popular features but the January issue just came and there's no Antimatter in it either. Worrisome! Will let you (all) know when/what I find out. ==Peggy== -- Peggy Noonan - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Duncan.Roads@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Duncan Roads) Subject: Bruce Cathie & Stan Deyo Conference Date: 3 Jan 92 13:26:00 GMT Hello all from down under. Can't keep us Aussies down heh? Just leaving a note to let anyone interested in the following event: Stan Deyo and Bruce Cathie are guest lecturers at a two day event to be held in Sydney, Australia on the 9th & 10th May, 1992. The event will repeated the following weekend in Brisbane, Qld (Still in Australia). Those interested can book for the event, by contacting me below: Duncan Roads Nexus Magazine c/- Post Office, Mapleton. Qld. 4560 Australia Ph: Australia 074 760 122 Fx: Australia 074 760 495 Cost: $45.00 per person per day (Aussie dollars only) if booked and paid prior to Feb 29th 1992 (Add $10.00 per person per day if you want lunch laid on). Otherwise the cost will be $55.00 per person per day, if booked and paid afterY3{{Feb29th 1992. Hope to see some of you people down here. Tally hooooo...... regards Duncan Roads -- Duncan Roads - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Duncan.Roads@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doug.Rogers@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Doug Rogers) Subject: Re: Verbal Abuse Date: 31 Dec 91 08:15:43 GMT I believe we can loose the "Addams Family thread" right here. OK? -- Doug Rogers - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Doug.Rogers@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl.Aztec@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Carl Aztec) Subject: Nephilim Date: 3 Jan 92 17:47:00 GMT > A question for you and Rocky: who is Yahwah, the > (oops, that's Yahweh) the spiritual leader/god for the > Isralies? It's the personal name of God in the Old Testament. Called the Tetragrammaton (name of 4 letters), it means Yod-Heh-Vau-Heh (YHVH). This is the name that appears as Jehovah in many versions of the bible. It's a form of the verb 'to be' and means 'he is". The name YHVH was considered such a powerful word, (after all, it's God's 'personal' name), it was seldom used by the Jews of the time out of respect or out of fear of some evil magic happening to them. Rumor has it that the exact pronunciation of YHVH is only known by the most elite of elite since it is a "secret of secrets" but modern scholars choose Yahweh pronounced yeh'we (better check your dictionary on that). The search for God's real name ( a secret name of infinite power) has preoccupied man for a long time. -- Carl Aztec - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Carl.Aztec@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: An Interesting Development ... Date: 3 Jan 92 15:41:00 GMT * Replying to a message originally to John Burke JS> In a message to Don Allen <29 Dec 91 12:11> John Burke JS> wrote: JS> JB> Internet. Now if I can just find someone to do the "dirty work" JS> JB> and really MAKE those damn things ... Happy New Year! -- John JS> JS> Speaking of which, I dutifully posted the recipe to the JS> local net here, and I was informed that it is one of those JS> "online urban legends," as I kinda suspected it was. JS> Afraid you're right...went back and looked through that newsgroup and waded through the thread a bit deeper...it appears that I was snookered. Oh well.. Haven't had a chance to make them up yet..the wife said this weekend :-) Don -- Don Allen - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: Circles down under 1 Date: 31 Dec 91 20:33:00 GMT Regular users of Paranet will recall that there has been some suggestion that quite a few crop circles have been found in Australia recently. Living here, I naturally pricked up my ears when this was floated. So, I thought I'd take a look into it and post the following messages on the subject for you all. I've delved into the files of UFORA; material published by Bill Chalker in the mid to late 70's; read all the crop circle books around, and tested out my own 20 odd years of field work. >From all sources I was able to come up with a list of some 31 cases which at first glance sounded like English crop circles. I was trying to match reports of roughly circular, flattened, swirled crop/vegetation. A review of each of these 31 cases quickly reduced the number to 13. This and the following messages will detail what I found. 1. Tully, Queensland. 19 Jan 1966. In what is regarded as a classic UFO sighting, George Pedley was driving a tractor on a cane farm at about 9 a.m. Suddenly a saucer shaped object rose out of a swamp, and departed from the area. Pedley then found a perfectly circular, 9.1m diameter, flattened, swirled area of reeds floating on top of 1.3m of water. The reeds were swirled clockwise. (Source: UFO Research Queensland file). 2. Bankstown, New South Wales. 14 Feb 1966. Two school boys discovered, in a swamp, a 5.9m diameter circle. It consisted of flattened reeds swirled clockwise. The reeds were bent at the base and not broken. (UFO Investigation Centre). 3. Brisbane, Queensland. Nov 1966. After hearing an unusual noise during the night a couple found a trace in an adjacent block of land. The previously 1m high grass over the whole centre of the block had been flattened and splayed out in a circle like a pack of cards. Direction of swirl unknown. (UFORA files). 4. Hill River, South Australia. 18 Nov 1966. Two children watched a 60cm long by 25cm thick football shaped light, golden in colour, pass within 50m of them and land in a paddock. The weeds in that spot were later found flattened, corckscrew wise, in a circular patch some 1.5m in diameter. (Personal investigation). -- Keith Basterfield - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: Circles down under 2 Date: 31 Dec 91 20:58:00 GMT 5. Lynchford, Tasmania. 25 May 1971. A Mr Archer was woken at 2 a.m. to hear his dogs barking and a strange humming noise. The next day he found a flattened area of grass and blackberries some 150m from his house. The trace was 4.5 by 9.1m, with a spiral pattern in the centre. (Tasmanian Investigation Centre). 6. Tooligie Hill, South Australia. Christmas 1971. Farmer Rob Habner was reaping a wheat field when he saw a mark in his paddock. The trace is best described as a doughnut shaped, bare depression in the soil, with crop flattened but still present in the middle, and crop flattened and swirled outside the bare area. Outside of this the crop was still waist high. The centre hole area was 1.1m in diameter, the doughnut bare soil depression was 0.45m across, and the outside flattened area was 0.6m wide and swirled anti- clockwise. The trace may have been made as early as Dec 8 because the grain from part of the crop which had been flattened had dropped out and reseeded. (UFOR SA). 7. Bordertown, South Australia. Dec 1973. Seven sections of the oat crop of farmer Kevin O'Connell were found to have been disturbed. Seven nearly circular spots were found spread out several hundred metres across the paddock. The crop had been bent over, not snapped, in a distinct anti-clockwise motion. Stalks were lying over each other, some traces giving the appearance of a woven mat. Their ages were estimated as between 2-4 weeks and they ranged in diameter from 2.1 to 4.6m. (Keith Basterfield and Garry Little). 8. Wokurna, South Australia. Dec 1973. A bare centred circle was surounded by flattened, swirled wheat crop, making a total diameter of some 2.4m. The direction of swirling was anti-clockwise. (Peter Horne and Steven Bolton). 9. Pullabooka, New South Wales. Dec 1974. Farmer V Huckle was ploughing a paddock of saffron thistles when he came across a 5.8m diameter area where the waist high thistles had been flattened. In the centre of the ring the earth was completely bare. As one moved towards the perimete, damaged thistles had been pulped or shredded, whilst others had been broken along the stem but were still intact. The perimeter line was very sharply defined. Near the outside edge the thistles had been swirled anti-clockwise. (UFO Investigation Centre). -- Keith Basterfield - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: Circles down under 3 Date: 31 Dec 91 21:07:00 GMT 10. Tranmere, South Australia. 8 Dec 1975. After waking to hear an unusual noise a woman found 2, 0.9m diameter areas of strawberry plants flattened in an anti-clockwise direction. (Ray Brooke). 11. Torrita, Victoria. Oct 1976. A farmer reported finding 2 circles some 7m apart, each 5.5m in diameter. Grass had been swirled, and appeared to be burned. (Circular Evidence page 82). 12. Tully, Queensland. 20 Feb 1987. 5 circular areas appeared on the same property as the 1966 event! Again they were in a lagoon area where the vegetation was a fast growing grass. The vegetation within the traces was flattened, matted and swirled clockwise. Sizes of the marks, arranged in an arc, ranged from 3-4.9m. (UFO Research Far North Queensland). 13. Speed, Victoria. Dec 1989. The farm of Max and Nancee Jolly was the location for the discovery of 5 swirled, flattened, wheat circles. 2 circles were 3m across whilst the other 3 were 1m in diameter. The wheat had been flattened and swirled anti-clockwise in each circle. Stalks were undamaged with grain matured on the heads. (Victorian UFO Research Society). In summary, apart from the event at Lynchford, all other traces were almost circular in shape. There were no complex geometric patterns in the distribution of circles in multi-ring events. There were, for example, no pictograms. Most (10) were simple, single rings. Interestingly, if you look at the direction of swirl, where known, 6 are anti- clockwise and 3 clockwise. However, all 3 clockwise marks occurred in a swamp! Why this should be remains unclear. -- Keith Basterfield - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: Circles down under 4 Date: 31 Dec 91 21:11:00 GMT Just in case we were not hearing of some crop circles, Vladimir Godic and I went out looking for crop circles in 1990. Early in the year we circulated a media release to capital city newspapers seeking Australian examples of swirled crop circles. None were reported to us. The exercise was repeated in November 1990 towards the end of the harvesting season. A media release was sent to 18 South Australian country newspapers, several national farming papers and 18 light aircraft clubs. Despite this widespread publicity, the resulting find was exactly nil! We are now in the 1991/92 harvesting season and there have been no reports of crop circles to date. So, yes, Australia has experienced a few flattened, swirled crop circles of unknown origin. However, the 13 known examples have been spread over the years since 1966, very few when compared to the UK. True reproductions of the UK crop circles might really be restricted to only Bordertown and Speed. -- Keith Basterfield - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kay.Mclaughlin@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kay Mclaughlin) Subject: Re: AVRO Car Date: 29 Dec 91 01:18:00 GMT JP> In a message to John Powell <15 Dec 91 16:59> Travis Hall wrote: TH> In a post concerning the AVRO Car at the Smithsonian Museum... > JP> I've been there and haven't seen it. If someone knows where it is I'd > JP> really like to see it... (I'll send free photos to the 1st correct > JP> respondee...) TH> John, Suggest you check the Garber Facility at Silver Hill MD. The Air JP> I talked with them today. They are open everyday of the year except JP> Xmas day, Mon-Fri 10am - 5pm, Sat/Sun 10am-1pm. JP> Reservation/appointment _is_ necessary. I was told it was a technical JP> type of tour, about 3 hours, quite unsuitable for children or the JP> elderly or those who are only casually interested. Also, no heat, no JP> security, no facilities. JP> Thanks, (their number is 202-357-1400), take care. JP> John. John, I left you a message awhile back regarding the AVRO, did you get it? It is at in the transportation museum at Ft. Eustis, near Newport News, VA. Regards, Kay -- Kay Mclaughlin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kay.Mclaughlin@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kay.Mclaughlin@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kay Mclaughlin) Subject: Texas Camps Date: 3 Jan 92 06:18:00 GMT Don, On the Chuck Harder Show the other night, I heard a snippet about how various private pilots(?) have been seeing "concentration type camps"(!) springing up in the wilds of Texas. I didn't catch the whole thing, but it sounded weird, he said he was looking into it. Heard anything? Regards, Kay -- Kay Mclaughlin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Kay.Mclaughlin@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: Re: Nephilim Date: 4 Jan 92 23:13:00 GMT Hello Carl, Thanks for that information on Yahweh. Have you read any of Zecharia Sitchin's books? I was wondering if one of the Sumerian gods could have been adopted by the Hebrews, and, if so, which one? The origin of religion fascinates me; what a mystery it is! Regards, Linda -- Linda Bird - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Winn.Schwartau@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Winn Schwartau) Subject: Roswell Investigation Date: 5 Jan 92 07:33:00 GMT The biggest trouble will be getting sympathetic ears. Staffers do not particularly like to make their bosses look bad - not good for putting groceries on the table. When trying to force hearings, you have a lot of other political forces working against you; for eery ear in Congress, there are a dozen others listening in - and that won't help. First, you need to pick an appropriate committee whose function might in some way be related to the subject. Oversight? Appropriates? Sciene and Technology? Areonautics? But remember, whoever you approach in that committe will be calling around for verification to NASA, NSA, etc. and that's likes putting in over a bullhorn inside the Beltway. There are two other approaches to getting heard without announcing it too loud first, and both involve finding a willing ear: 1. Find an old timer, (the House definitely, forget the Senate) who has no need of another term. Sell HIM on the idea and the value, a great departing moment, etc. 2. Under some state laws, term limits may assist is finding a sympathizer. DC is a bitch to get around and get anything done. But press is the name of the game. It is often asked, "Why are these issues reported by Tom Brokaw?" on NBC, (CNN etc.) in a serious news vein: Simple - no one wants to be the first to look like a Geraldo clone. However, if, and iff, a Congress kind of person will play, a press conference can do amazing things to the media: They get real worked up if a 'name' is playing. Also, maybe some of the 'believer' ex astronaust mights be willing to assist. It's quite a job, and YES! A plan is needed! A good one. Not fringe, but solid approach to questions and answers and possibilities. Good luck. We need it. -- Winn Schwartau - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Winn.Schwartau@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Roswell Investigation Date: 6 Jan 92 00:57:00 GMT Sheldon: Here's my 2 cents' worth concerning FUFOR's grant proposals: > ___ Project A -- To conduct further research into UFO > crash/retrieval cases (Leonard Stringfield): $1,200 Naah! There is an established problem with signal-to-noise here. > ___ Project B -- To interview six additional witnesses > (Don Schmitt): $1,700 Good one! Numero Uno by me. > ___ Project C -- To conduct hypnosis sessions with known > and potential witnesses (Stanton Friedman): $15,860 Like whom, Gerald Anderson? (Yecch!) Forget it! > ___ Project D -- To conduct further research at the Truman > and Eisenhower Libraries, the Sandia and Los Alamos > Laboratories, and at the Library of Congress > (Stanton Friedman): $6,545 The Truman and Eisenhower Libraries, huh? Do I detect the fragrance of "Eau de MJ-12" or are we driving by a cow pasture? > ___ Project E -- To produce a follow-up videotaped summary > of witness testimony (Fred Whiting): $500 Good idea! Numero dos! These should be done before proceeding to the next project to insure its success: > ___ Project F -- To bring significant witnesses to > Washington, DC, for a de-briefing by congressional staff > and interviews with media representatives > (Fred Whiting) $5,700 This one's a *must*! Not only is it more useful to fly these people to Washington than it is to hypnotize them, but it costs a third as much! > Any further suggestions:.............. Offer a reward to people like Bill Brazel or anyone else who may still be holding Roswell debris, to come forward with it on live television. $100,000 -- John -- John Burke - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) Subject: Suicides? Date: 6 Jan 92 01:22:00 GMT In a message to Clark Matthews <30 Dec 91 21:46> Linda Bird wrote: LB> Amazing story.... LB> Thanks and Be Good! Well, I try to be careful, anyway :-) Happy New Year! Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) Subject: Noriega Trial Date: 6 Jan 92 01:27:00 GMT In a message to Clark Matthews <01 Jan 92 08:49> Jim Greenen wrote: JG> Sorry Clark, the odds are not high enough. How about 50 to 1, JG> the I might bet you a quarter. ---Grin--- You're probably right. I called my friend Manny the Shark in Atlantic City and offered him 16:1. He suggested I take my business to Walgreen's.. :-( Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) Subject: Suicides? Date: 6 Jan 92 01:28:00 GMT In a message to Clark Matthews <01 Jan 92 08:53> Jim Greenen wrote: JG> You forgot James V. Forreststall (spelling not correct) and JG> probably thousands more that we are not aware of. ---Jim--- Correcto-mundo. I actually did recall the Defenestration of Forrestall after I finished the message. I actually have a file on Forrestall's death, but I don't know that anyone has done a take-no-prisoners investigation. Jumping out a window is a pretty unusual way to go -- and it's so easy to "assist" such a suicide... Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian.Harper@f54.n440.z2.FIDONET.ORG (Ian Harper) Subject: Ufo Magazine Date: 5 Jan 92 04:01:00 GMT Hi Don thanks for the reply about the ufo mag. I am cosysop a bbs and we like to give as much information to our users as possible. do you know if there are any good text files regarding ufo's in you area? and if so i would like to get hold of them. (the cheapest way possible) as bbsing is not cheap. if there is any thing i can di for you please let mr know bye for now..........IAN -- Ian Harper - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Ian.Harper@f54.n440.z2.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Thomann@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Thomann) Subject: Mistake Date: 5 Jan 92 16:58:00 GMT Doug, For some reason my private message with references to the Addams F. was not very private. Guess it ended up in the wrong place or I am just not familiar with the BBS. Anyway, if I'd of known that it would never of been posted. Mike T. -- Michael Thomann - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Thomann@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: doc.imperial.ac.uk!aixssc.ibm.co.uk!rob Subject: Radio Isotopes found in Corn Date: 6 Jan 92 13:11:42 GMT From: Robert Trevelyan Hi, I have just heard that some samples of corn were taken from one of the Beckhampton 'fish' formations in 1991 by Michael Chorost on his visit to the UK. On his return to the USA these were passed on to Marshal Dudley for analysis and were found to contain 13 radio isotopes. Dutron [sp] was found, a proton/neutron highbrid I'm told, and contained heavy nitrogen. This type of radio isotope does not occur naturally and could not be created without a lenear accelerator similar to the one at Stanford. At this point I am not sure how sinificant it is to the crop circle phenomena but if anyone has any knowledge of this type of isotope I would be interested to learn more about it. Other news on crop circles is that the Cereologist is due out any day now and the next CCCS monthly conference is on Jan 10th 1991 at the Public Library, Kensington, London and is to be given by Michael Green, and starts at 7pm. Rumour has it that there have been some formations in Canada and I hope to get some more details on that one soon. Regards, Robert -- Robert Trevelyan UKnet: rob@aixssc.ibm.co.uk AIX Communications VNET: TREVELR at NHBVM7 Voice: +44-(0)256-56144 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: doc.imperial.ac.uk!aixssc.ibm.co.uk!rob Subject: Doug and Dave in Australia??? Date: 6 Jan 92 13:12:07 GMT From: Robert Trevelyan Keith, Can you confirm whether Doug and Dave came to Australia in 1991. There was a rumour that they were doing the lecture circuit ahead of Colin Andrews and we know they went to Italy and Holland but cannot confirm if they went down under. Thanks, Robert -- Robert Trevelyan UKnet: rob@aixssc.ibm.co.uk AIX Communications VNET: TREVELR at NHBVM7 Voice: +44-(0)256-56144 ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com For administrative requests (subscriptions, back issues) send to: UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!infopara-request DOMAIN infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com To obtain back issues by anonymous ftp, connect to: DOMAIN ftp.uiowa.edu (directory /archives/paranet) Mail to private Paranet/Fidonet addresses from the newsletters: DOMAIN firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP scicom!paranet.org!firstname.lastname ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************