Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 532 Monday, February 3rd 1992 (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: Strange Aircraft? Re: Albert Einstein From Ummo ??? Re: maitreya, spirits, antichrist The Lazar Tape Re: Budd Hopkins In Denver Re: RE:FEDER & WILLIAMS Alternative 3 Aussie circles NEWSNOTES 20 FPP Fact Or Fiction Scranton Ufo's Re: Maitreya 1/2 A bit of Ancient Thought... OZONE AND MEIER Re: 11:11 JFK murders Phoenix Liberator BBS Texas Camps - FEMA UK Bulletin Boards ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Strange Aircraft? Date: 31 Jan 92 14:12:00 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally from Ian Taylor * Originally dated 01-23-92 19:02 From: imt@crosfield.co.uk (ian taylor) Date: 23 Jan 92 11:06:27 GMT Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom. Message-ID: <12613@suns8.crosfield.co.uk> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors While driving home from work last night (Wed 22nd Jan) I saw an aircraft with rather odd lights, and I was wondering if anyone could clarify what I saw. The full story begins at about 6:30 pm, as I was driving south on the M1 into London. The sky was extremely clear last night, with good visibility of early evening stars. At a point about five or six miles outside London, I noticed a lot of aerial activity - several light aircraft, and a helicopter, which was intermittently using a searchlight. I would imagine this was a police helicopter, since they are quite a common sight. There were probably around half a dozen aircraft flying around the area, and they all seemed to be circling, rather than actually headed somewhere. Now comes the interesting bit. I noticed an aircraft crossing the motorway at ~200ft, and the configuration of lights it showed seemed rather odd - there were two lights, about 30-40ft apart, which were aligned in the direction of travel, ie at each end of the craft. One light was red, and the other white, and every couple of seconds, both lights would flash brighter, and then change colour, so the red and white were reversed. The lights on this object were quite different to the more familiar light configuration on the helicopter or the light aircraft, but seemed about the same intensity when they were not 'pulsing' before a colour change. The aircraft flew quite slowly over the road, in an easterly direction. I couldn't make out any shape to the object - all that was visible was the two lights. As I continued into London, I could still occasionaly see planes and helicopters, but I didn't see the two-lighted craft again. Can anyone identify what this strangely lit aircraft could be? I'm not at all familiar with aircraft light regulations, but I'm sure I've never seen a configuration like that before... -ian _______________________________________________________________________________ | Ian Taylor (x4097) | The opinions expressed |"Well money can't buy me | | Crosfield Electronics | here are not mine. | love, it's true, but it | | Hemel Hempstead, UK | God came to me in | can buy a red Ferarri... | | | a vision and told me | and BABY...that'll do..." | | imt@cel.co.uk | to do it. | Zodiac Mindwarp | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Re: Albert Einstein From Ummo ??? Date: 31 Jan 92 14:15:00 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally from Marc Milanini * Originally dated 01-25-92 11:23 From: marcmil@microsoft.com (Marc MILANINI) Date: 24 Jan 92 22:21:18 GMT Organization: Microsoft Corp. Message-ID: <1992Jan24.222118.24307@microsoft.com> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors In article <1992Jan17.153021.9566sheaffer@netcom.COM> sheaffer@netcom.COM (Robert Sheaffer) writes: >In article <1992Jan16.124915.5836@ugle.unit.no> klippgen@lise.unit.NO (William Klippgen) writes: >>According to this information, several famous people on earth are of >>'Ummonian' origin, such as Einstein and Marx. >> >This is a famous contactee-oriented UFO case, with photographs, from >Madrid, Spain, starting in 1965. > >Dr. Claude Poher of the French National Center for Space Research (CNES) >investigated this incident, and concluded it was a hoax. (No, Poher is >NOT a skeptic; he accepts other UFO cases.) His analysis was published >byt the Center for UFO Studies in its Spring, 1977 Bulletin. > >His conclusion: "These studies indicate that the photographs are a hoax, >produced by using a small model of translucent plastic, on which the >insignia was drawn in ink. This model was suspended for the photographer by >means of a very fine line ... " > >-- > > Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com > > Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized! > > "Simply follow nature, Rousseau declares. Sade, laughing, > grimly agrees." - Camille Paglia, "Sexual Personae" Thanks for that information. The "Ummo" case is still vivid in France. A few months ago, a "Directeur de Recherche" -Research Manager- of the CNRS -National Center for Scientific Research- published a book about that. His name is Jean-Pierre Petit, and the title of his book must be "Enquete sur les Extra-terrestres qui sont deja parmi nous" -Investigation on the ETs who are already among us-. Here is a summary of that book. The "Ummits" are so-called ETs who are in contact with several persons, especially in Spain. They communicate with the contactees via mail, sending them information about their planet, their arrival on the Earth, ... The first thing is that they landed on Earth around 1953, which of course invalidates the possibility of Einstein or even Marx to be one of them. They have described quite precisely the place where they landed: it is near Digne in the south of France. JP Petit has been there and found that the description was so accurate that only someone who had visited the mountains around Digne could have written it. After that, they spread to Spain, and several other countries, and began to study our society. In the letters they sent to contactees, they told about several incidents which happened to them, and again, JP Petit found articles in some spanish nespapers relating strange things that have arrived then (like the finding of one the Ummit labs). The "Ummits" are allegedly quite similar to us, the only difference being that they have a stain on their body. They live on a planet revolving around a star that is yet to be identified (it is much like the Sun, G6 class if my memory serves well), about 15 light years far. Their system of government could be qualified of "communist". In the letters that contactees receive, there is not a single trace of humor or metaphor. Still today, people keep on receiving letters from them (26 years after the first ones !). The only condition for being chosen is to show interest in the case, by going to meetings with other contactees for example, and not use the letters for one's own purpose. It seems that, like in lots of other abduction cases, the contactees have used the letters for their own publicity. JP Petit asserts that the "Ummits" stopped writing to them at once. But there are still many meetings around them with people saying that their parents are ETs, ... (example taken from the book). The most interesting thing about that case is that JP Petit has used, or found inspiration to be more precise, in some of the scientific material found in the Ummit letters to publish Physics articles in refered publications. His articles deal mainly with the possibilities of parallel universes, time, general relativity. JP Petit is regarded as quite prominent in those fields. He believes that the Ummo letters can only be written by people having a very extensive knowledge of general relativity, and physics. I must say that he is very much biased towards believing in ufos, and he has carried out studies about their mode of propulsion. He thinks that MHD is bound to be the solution (he is also an expert in that field BTW). Nevertheless, I personnally think that he has kept all the characteristics of a good scientist. I am sure that he considers all that "New Age" stuff as having nothing to do with real Ufology, for example. Sorry for not quoting exactly which publications JP Petit made. I left the book in France, and it will take me time to get it back. -- =---K8>>@@@@@@@@ Marc Milanini @@@@ marcmil@microsoft.com @@@@%% -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wam.umd.edu!infinity Subject: Re: maitreya, spirits, antichrist Date: 31 Jan 92 20:11:49 GMT From: David Elmore Coleman In the discussion of the Endora channeler and good vs. evil spirits, which involves Don Allen... Here is the Biblical quote that seems to many to confirm the good of contact with psychic channels: 'Try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.' All major New Age channels confesseth this. They also confesseth that there are 'many false prophets gone out into the world.' There are many cases reported by psychics when obviously malevolent spirits have attempted to disturb psychic communication, or muddy it. The most common occur when the Ouija board is used, since it is easy for any spirit (and any human) to use. More galactic thoughts from: Amicitia Subjugat Omnia Hweohthte... (Hwe-oath-T) ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- David E. Coleman infinity@wam.umd.edu 8125 48th Ave, Apt. 612 College Park, MD 20740 1-(301)-474-7424 ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- Unknowingly, he picked up a whirly blue throwstone with strange hieroglyphics on the opposite side he didn't see, and he tossed it into the sunlit stream; A note said he had opened a gate to some place indescribable. ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hpvclmd.vcd.hp.com!miked Subject: The Lazar Tape Date: 31 Jan 92 20:33:38 GMT From: Mike Dobbs The latest UFO Magazine carried an advertisement for 'The Lazar Tape... and excerpts from the Government Bible'. Has anyone viewed this video? Don? A brief review would be appreciated. -------- Mike Dobbs / Internet: miked@vcd.hp.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hrusovszky@f300.n238.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hrusovszky) Subject: Re: Budd Hopkins In Denver Date: 30 Jan 92 01:53:17 GMT MC> Come on John! You surely know that this is not THE Budd Hopkins. :-) MC> Budd MC> is considered to be the premier abduction researcher in the world. What MC> you read in the tabloids is generally considered the finest in BS. I know they are full of BS, BUT, they mentioned the famous UFO researcher Budd Hopkins, and I figured that they were opening themselves up for one hell of a slander suit if that part were not true. Wish I'd have kept that issue. -- John Hrusovszky - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hrusovszky@f300.n238.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: RE:FEDER & WILLIAMS Date: 30 Jan 92 19:38:49 GMT I have to agree with you that keeping an open mind is important. No matter what I say that may seem to be the "S" word, I won't throw out new ideas until they have been examined. As I also am willing to change from old to new when there is enough evidence to demand it. You can't teach and old dog new tricks because it's too stuborn to learn them. Not because they can't learn them. I'll try to stay a pup for another 44 years. -- Pete Porro - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker) Subject: Alternative 3 Date: 1 Feb 92 00:58:00 GMT Greg Lush asked; > Someone probably has already discussed this but I > was wondering if anyone has an outlet for obtaining > the book, 'Alternative 3.' Thanks. Greg check with Bob Girard, who runs ARCTURUS Book Srv. You can reach him at: Aarcturus Book Service P.O. Bx 831383 Stone Mountain, Ga. 30083-0023 Don -- Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: Aussie circles Date: 31 Jan 92 03:27:00 GMT Hi Sheldon, The Melbourne Age is a very well respected established daily paper, and not of the ilk of the "National Enquirer." I have drawn the Age report to Bill Chalker's attention and he is attempting to track down further details. No doubt Bill will post something in due course. -- Keith Basterfield - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: NEWSNOTES 20 Date: 31 Jan 92 04:28:00 GMT SECRET US AIRCRAFT The US magazine "Popular Mechanics" in its Dec 1991 issue covers ground previously discussed in the US Journal "Aviation Week and Space technology" in late 1990. Mostly nocturnal observations have been made of several apparent advanced secret US aircraft. Type 1:- Several different triangular aircraft in the 60-160 foot wingspan area. Possibly one of these is the Northrop TR-3A, 42 foot long, 60-65 foot wingspan. Another is said to be 150 foot wingspan and reported to be able to turn 90 degrees on its wingtip. Type 2:- High speed/high altitude-pulsing engine noise plane. Seen as a high altitude light associated with this noise. Aircraft produces sausage link shaped smoke/vapour trail. Type 3:- Black, silent, boomerang shape. 600-800 foot across. Random pattern of white lights on black underside. Manouvers at 20km/hr, stopping, rotating, and hovering vertically. Re type 3, take a look again at the Belgian reports. a. Mostly nocturnal sightings. b. Dark, triangular shapes. c. Large in size, cited as "huge", "massive." d. Objects hover. "When it began moving it usually moved very slowly, slower than an aircraft." e. When objects turn, they turn slowly through 90 or 180 degrees. Interesting correlation? However, it sounds crazy to suggest that the USAF is testing advanced aircraft over Belgium. Or is it? Stealth fighters were based in the UK after 1983 some 8 years before public release. Jenny Randles refers to UFO researchers having tumbled to some UK UFO cases being stealth before public release. All comments I've seen about the possibility of secret aircraft being the cause of the Belgium flap have referred to current stealth planes, not these observed advanced type 3's. Any comments? -- Keith Basterfield - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: FPP Date: 31 Jan 92 05:26:00 GMT John here is a suggested reading list:- 1. Wilson, S.C. & Barber, T.X. (1981). Vivid Fantasy and Hallucinatory Abilities in the Life Histories of Excellent Hypnotic Subjects, in Klinger, E. (ed). Imagery: Vol 2. New York. Plenum. 2. Wilson, S.C. & Barber, T.X. (1982). The Fantasy-Prone Personality: Implications for Understanding Imagery, Hypnosis and Parapsychological Phenomena. PSI Research 1(3):94-116. 3. Wilson, S.C. & Barber, T.X. (1983). The Fantasy-Prone Personality:Implications for Understanding Imagery, Hypnosis and Parasychological Phenomena. Chapter 12 in Sheitch, A. (ed). Imagery:Current Theory, Research and Applications. New York. Wiley. 4. Myers, S.A. & Austrin, H. R. (1985). Distal Eidetic Technology:Further Characteristics of the Fantasy-Prone Personality. Journal of Mental Imagery 9(3):57-66. 5. Lynn, S. J. & Rhue, J. W. (1986). The Fantasy-Prone Person:Hypnosis, Imagination and Creativity. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 51(2):404-408. 6. Richardson, A. (1986). A Follow-up of Nine Typographic Eidetikers. Psychologia:An International Journal of Psychology in the Orient 29(3):165-175. 7. Rhue, J. W. & Lynn, S.J. (1987). Fantasy-Proneness:Developmental Antecedents. Journal of Personality 55(1): 121-137. 8. Lynn, S.J. & Rhue, J. W. (1988). Fantasy-Proneness. American Psychologist 43(1):35-44. 9. Rhue, J. W. & Lynn, S.J. (1989). Fantasy-Proness, Hypnotizability and Absorption: A Re-examination. International Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis 37(2):100-106. 10 Fellows, B. & Wright, V. (1989). Fantasy-Proneness: Data and Observations on the British Use of the Inventory of Childhood memories and Imaginings. British Journal of Experimental and clinical Hypnosis 6(1):57-59. Unfortunately I find that many UFO researchers have failed to read some of the above material before relegating the FPP hypothesis as a potential explanation for some abduction cases to the trash can. In abductions there is a thread of "alien babies" being removed from pregnant women. Barber and Wilson relate how two of their FPP hypnotic subjects fully believed they were pregnant and went for abortions only to find no evidence of pregnancy. If these women had been investigated by UFO researchers and not by psychologists chances are the "missing baby" file would have had two more cases logged. -- Keith Basterfield - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Fact Or Fiction Date: 1 Feb 92 22:09:00 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally from William J. Casperson * Originally dated 01-31-92 12:34 From: st193@menudo.uh.edu (William J. Casperson) Date: 31 Jan 92 04:29:27 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <1992Jan31.042927.20394@menudo.uh.edu> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Is this fact or fiction: Recently a man in California caught on video two F-16's being swallowed by what appeared to be a UFO. The man is currently selling the video (Or has sold) to television stations around the world. Apparently Unsolved Mystries has purchased the video -- ?? Also, I need to know this: What government agenices are currently investigating UFO crashes etc. What is the agency called that keeps track of all the abductions. Has anyone heard of the FEMA cover-up? This too would also be a big help. BTW, I think this is a great forum for discussion, but, too bad everything one says is being monitored by dozens of federal agencies. Esp. on this newsgroup. ALSO, Scott and the Red-head, take your discussion else where -- I'm getting tierd of reading the BS that is being sent out. -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Scranton Ufo's Date: 1 Feb 92 22:10:00 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally from Ccf1@jaguar.uofs.edu * Originally dated 01-31-92 18:26 From: ccf1@jaguar.uofs.edu Date: 27 Jan 92 20:49:38 GMT Organization: University of Scranton Message-ID: <1992Jan27.154938.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors I have seen the video tape they ran on the local news here, (WBRE) and I was not very impressed. The object could have been anything. Could someone please give the dates for these events so that I could head down to the local library and see what the papers have to say. Thanks in advance... -Jetto- ccf1@jaguar.ucs.uofs.edu -- Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Goldsworthy@f27.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Goldsworthy) Subject: Re: Maitreya 1/2 Date: 20 Jan 92 04:37:14 GMT wake up man!!! you sound like you are brain washed. if there was a god, would you think that he would allow men to fight over what his name was? and don't give me that one true name stuff. if you opened your eyes instead of you "conciousness" you may see that god is within all of us, now, here! we don't need a manifestation, or even a "son" of god to save us...all we need to do is look in a mirror and see him. don't get me wrong; i don't want to mock your beliefs, but don't place your faith in someone else...place it in yourself, the true immage of god, or whatever you wish to call him! more blood has been shed in the name of the "true god" than for any other reason in the history of mankind; do you think that the PERSON you are talking about is worth that? -- John Goldsworthy - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Goldsworthy@f27.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f8.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: A bit of Ancient Thought... Date: 1 Feb 92 21:54:31 GMT Here's a tidbit published in a recent newspaper: "The Greek philospher Metrodorus in the 4th century B.C. wrote: To consider the Earth as the only world with life in all of space is as absurd as to believe that in an entire field sown with grain, only one plant will grow." Linda Bird -- Linda Bird - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f8.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: OZONE AND MEIER Date: 31 Jan 92 17:39:51 GMT The "Ozone Layer" was discovered in 1956 by Reginald Dobson during the first geophysical year. He studied it again in 1957. The measurment system used was created by him in 1956. The units of measure are called Dobson units. There has been continued study since then. When the sun is less active, the layer can get thicker. This happened in the early 70's. Now the sun activity is up, more sun spots and as you have noticed more flares etc. This causes a change in the Ozone layer thickness. According to measurements and current studies, the ozone layer is not thinner than it has been before. The doomsayers are trying to scare us with biased information. There is an annual variation of 25% and right now the latest reports show a 3% depletion. I don't find that very significant or alarming. The current probe that will measure changes was launched last month. We shall see more then. Politicized science is bad science. I saw your message on UFO echo and it reminded me that people here don't all wade through the large volume of messages on the fidonet echo. Mike Christol was making a reference to Meier getting information from Semjase which suggested that they had knowledge of the problems with the ozone layer, before we discovered it. The point is that this claim is unfounded since Meier's report was in the 80's and the above information shows that down here on Terra Firma, the studies have been ongoing since 1956. This is not an effort to discredit all the information, but just another hole in the Meier mystery. As for my personal belief, I don't think Meier's claims are worth much. I know there are others who think he is absolutly factual. -- Pete Porro - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: 11:11 Date: 31 Jan 92 17:45:42 GMT I'll be dropping this topic since it's really not going anywhere, but I just wanted to add that this is 4690, the year of the monkey, and new years day is Feb. 4th. For this reason and others in the same vein, numerology, the great cosmic convergence, and other 11:11 ideas have no foundation to stand on. Time is a human creation and concept. It is not a natural feature of the universe or the planet we live on. Anything new on the PA UFO flap? I keep seeing bits and pieces, but last thing someone said it was a C-130? I don't get it. How could one plane fool so many people. -- Pete Porro - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush Subject: JFK murders Date: 3 Feb 92 00:33:36 GMT From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush) >From Dr. John Coleman's article... Begin Quoting... That the CIA had become a law unto itself was confirmed by Senator George Smathers. One of the Senator's secretaries was Mary Jo Kopechne who later died at Chappaquidack. There was a great deal more to Miss Kopechne than has ever been told. Her roommate, Carol Tyler, was killed in a strange and as yet unexplained plane accident over the sea near the coast of Maryland. End Quoting... So, maybe you can add a couple more deaths to the 'related to JFK's murder' list. Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu) -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush Subject: Phoenix Liberator BBS Date: 3 Feb 92 02:32:42 GMT From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush) Long ago, many wanted to obtain some material from the Publishers of the Phoenix Journals without having to pay for their books. >From a recent newsletter... Effective immediately the Phoenix Liberator BBS is up and running. To download information to your computer, simply dial (with modem) (805)822-1309. The BBS is nonsubscription and functions at 2400 baud. You'll find information regarding citizen's rights, state citizenship, Constitutional concerns and legal insights, conspiracies, and so much more. I believe UFOs will get some mention as well, but I know nothing else about it. I barely know how to spell BBS. Hope this helps/interests the curious among you. Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu) -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.PARANET.ORG (Clark Matthews) Subject: Texas Camps - FEMA Date: 2 Feb 92 09:58:00 GMT In a message to Clark Matthews <23 Jan 92 23:22> Kay Mclaughlin wrote: KM> THX, Clark! Sheesh, I figured that what I'd heard was a wild rumor, but KM> the more I hear from folks the more I wonder... Just when you thought it KM> was safe to back in the water...... Hi Kay. Well, the rumors are flying and I don't pretend to know what they really mean. My suspicious nose [well, let's be kind & call it my advanced pattern-matching capabilities... :-) ] makes me wonder about the agenda behind this stuff. Where is the money coming from?? What appropriations? Is it discretionary? At whose discretion? The answer could be as simple as: FEMA f*cked up handling the earthquake & the hurricane and consequently got *more money than it knows what to do with*. Or the answer could be : FEMA f*cked up handling the earthquake & the hurricane and used the bureaucratic snafu as leverage to add funding to other priority projects under NSD-47. Like internment camps for undesirables and/or barracks for "deputized" National Guard and State police. The activity here in Jersey centers around large barracks complexes in extremely secure enclosures. Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.PARANET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian.Harper@f54.n440.z2.PARANET.ORG (Ian Harper) Subject: UK Bulletin Boards Date: 28 Jan 92 05:18:03 GMT In a message to All <21 Jan 92 12:10> mrc-crc.Ac.Uk!sgamble wrote: Hi to you. Nc> Several people have posted recently asking about UK based UFO Boards. if you like to tell me what you require, i might be albe to help you out? We are a new bbs in the UK but are looking for special areas of interest like "UFO'S". perhaps we could take the fido ufo echo then if ther are any good messages pass them over to paranet? i will leave it up to you to tell me what you want? bye for now..............IAN HARPER -- Ian Harper - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Ian.Harper@f54.n440.z2.PARANET.ORG ******************************************************************************** For permission to reproduce or redistribute this digest, contact: DOMAIN Michael.Corbin@paranet.org UUCP scicom!paranet.org!Michael.Corbin ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com For administrative requests (subscriptions, back issues) send to: UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!infopara-request DOMAIN infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com To obtain back issues by anonymous ftp, connect to: DOMAIN ftp.uiowa.edu (directory /archives/paranet) Mail to private Paranet/Fidonet addresses from the newsletters: DOMAIN firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP scicom!paranet.org!firstname.lastname ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************