Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 534 Monday, February 10th 1992 (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: The Reptoids Are Coming! The Lucifer/Poseidon mythologem: a reply to Doug Rogers Re: Black Aircraft in Belgium Astronomers & Ufos 11:11 Fact Or Fiction C-130 Pulsar planets Missive... Jason Society and Men In Black _Science News_ on crop circles Re: PUB'G INFO: FEDER, Breakdown Deja Vu all over again! Re: OZONE AND MEIER Re: ASTRONOMERS & UFOS (none) Kopechne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f605.n104.z1.PARANET.ORG (Mike Keithly) Subject: The Reptoids Are Coming! Date: 5 Feb 92 15:57:02 GMT >Mike: > Is this "Randal Martin" another incarnation of T.S. >Bennett? There are some familiar glaring departures from what >is easily verifiable. >I got a real kick out of: >> the Military Office of the White House >and the news that the infamous "MJ-12 document" now has a more >"legit"-sounding handle: >> NSC5410 >I guess old B.S. never dies ... it just ... gets recycled! Well as I recall T.S Bennett was a story monger like the guy who posted this I just posted this as a kick for the readers here. Very hard to swallow this one.. Mike Keithly -- Mike Keithly - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Keithly@p0.f605.n104.z1.PARANET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ncar!oxy.edu!yokatta@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM Subject: The Lucifer/Poseidon mythologem: a reply to Doug Rogers Date: 5 Feb 92 18:38:50 GMT From: yokatta@oxy.edu (Scott Littleton) Dear Doug, Re your query: DR>Could I ask you how this thread relates to UFO's? Did you read the last paragraph of my post? To wit: SL>But to return to the more ancient mythologem--as well as to the thrust of SL>this echo--could the Luciferian/Promethean rebellion myth reflect an SL>internecine conflict of some sort among the ancestors of our ubiquitous, SL>gray-skinned 'visitors,' perhaps over what kind of contact was most SL>appropriate as they consolidated their hold on 'Colony Earth'? One SL>wonders, especially since myths of this sort, though varying widely as to SL>details, are found among the great majority of early civilizations, from SL>Mexico to Japan. In any case, for better or worse, the 'open-and-direct SL>contact' party seems to have lost decisively. The Lucifer/Poseidon mythologem--which as, David Coleman noted in the post that triggered the foregoing, is wholly distinct from the Iranian-rooted Satan myth--may well reflect an early stage in the evolution of the UFO 'phenomenon,' one that has had fateful implications for subsequent human-alien relations. Let me add here that I am NOT a disciple of Eric Von Daniken and others who have suggested that 'ancient astronauts' somehow shaped the course of human history by building the Egyptian pyramids, etc. On the contrary, I suspect that our extraterrestrial 'colonial masters' have, for the most part, systematically refrained from direct interference in human affairs. Indeed, after the rebels (the prototypes of Lucifer, Poseidon, Quetzalcoatl, et al.) were contained, something akin to STAR TREK'S 'Prime Directive' seems to have formed the cornerstone of the "Grays'" colonial policy--much as our own scientists systematically refrain from upsetting the 'balance of nature' in wilderness areas, while at the same time performing a variety of experiments, including genetic experiments, on individual creatures abducted and tranquilized for the purpose. Need I say more? Cheers, Scott Littleton -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ichips.intel.com!larry Subject: Re: Black Aircraft in Belgium Date: 6 Feb 92 00:50:19 GMT From: larry@ichips.intel.com Keith Basterfield writes: + +SECRET US AIRCRAFT +The US magazine 'Popular Mechanics' in its Dec 1991 issue covers ground +previously discussed in the US Journal 'Aviation Week and Space technology' + ... +Type 3:- Black, silent, boomerang shape. 600-800 foot across. Random pattern of +white lights on black underside. Manouvers at 20km/hr, stopping, rotating, and +hovering vertically. +Re type 3, take a look again at the Belgian reports. +a. Mostly nocturnal sightings. +b. Dark, triangular shapes. +c. Large in size, cited as 'huge', "massive." +d. Objects hover. 'When it began moving it usually moved very slowly, slower +than an aircraft.' +e. When objects turn, they turn slowly through 90 or 180 degrees. +Interesting correlation? Yes, I find it interesting that there are lots of deltas around. They seem to be of different sizes, shapes, and portray different flight characteristics. I have pretty good connections in the SW Test Range Areas, I know about some others that haven't been reported. Has any group (CUFOS, MUFON, etc ...) tried to collect detailed descriptions of all these delta planforms to correlate them? Sounds like a worthwhile effort! Also, what are these groups doing to help themselves better filter reports between UFOs and Black Aircraft? My suspicion is that there are NO knowledgeable people that can accurately perform this function, associated with these study groups. Or is the thought to give Black Aircraft a certain percentage of the 'unknown' category and leave it at that? + However, it sounds crazy to suggest that the USAF is +testing advanced aircraft over Belgium. Or is it? Stealth fighters were based +in the UK after 1983 some 8 years before public release. Jenny Randles refers +to UFO researchers having tumbled to some UK UFO cases being stealth before +public release. + All comments I've seen about the possibility of secret +aircraft being the cause of the Belgium flap have referred to current stealth +planes, not these observed advanced type 3's. +Any comments? I've been to Tonopah Test Range at night and have seen F-117A's coming back from training missions. They are loud near the ground, and have a triangle shaped lighting pattern from underneath (Nose light, and a wing light on each wing tip - the F-117A's wing is highly swept - 67.5 deg, the HAVE BLUE F-117A concept demonstrator had a 72.5 deg sweep), and they've never been observed accelerating to supersonic velocities. F-117A lights don't change colors as well. If memory serves me, the Belgian vehicles went high supersonic at low altitude without any shock wave (sonic boom) effects. Going high supersonic at low altitude and alleviating shock wave effects at the same time is the most difficult level of capability in this area. This is why it is expected that US research would be directed towards a high altitude environment to assist in the alleviation of shock wave effects. High altitudes are also going to help alleviate other effects as well, such as contrails and shape signatures. An example of the benefits of altitude is indicated in the recent publication of the 25 page history of the CIA OXCART program. This document is the formerly secret history of the development of the Lockheed A-12 Blackbird reconnaissance platform, started back in the late 50's. The A-12 was the predecessor to the USAF SR-71A reconnaissance vehicle. During the development of this aircraft, flights over the continental US were achieved with a rumbling ground sonic boom, INSTEAD of the sharp sonic CRACK normally heard. The A-12 aircraft was flying supersonic and was flying too high to be visible. It is interesting to consider this in light of recent ground rumbling reports. This flight occurred on Dec. 21, 1966. It IS also documented that the government HAS worked on sonic boom alleviation in the past, back in the late 60's and early 70's. It is interesting that all published research in this area seems to end in the early 70's. Much of this work was published as being related to SST sonic boom alleviation. The military applications are obvious. PM mentioned that the Type 3's may be aerostats, or stealthy delta shaped baloons. One thing that I've never seen mentioned in the UFO circles is the capabilities of a very quiet propeller driven aerostat with sequenced lights to confuse people. Were these issues ever raised regarding the Hudson Valley sightings for example? The theory would be that normally, as radar reflectors, and also to stay out of the range of anti-aircraft fire, delta shaped aerostats would be high altitude devices, but it might be interesting to fly them near the ground for other applications. The usage of the American public as a test group might be possible, especially if the true stealth nature of the aerostat could be made to look like a UFO. However there are problems with this. 1. A low flying baloon, even a stealthy one, would seem to be VERY vulnerable once detected. 2. Also it seems, the existence of tactical stealth attack aircraft is never shown until the aircraft is obsolete (F-117A is a case in point). The idea is the belief that the blackness about the existence/capabilities of certain stealth aircraft, is part of their stealthiness. Though an aerostat could take the place of something similar, I suppose. 3. Also, an aerostat wouldn't be accelerating to high supersonic speeds, as reported on radar in the Belgium case, if I recall correctly (even though sequenced lights on the edge of a large wing at night might be able to give such an impression to the eye). There MIGHT be research into more exotic aerospace vehicles that MIGHT have some of the capabilities you are inquiring about. This however requires more data and MUCH analysis. The recent hints in AW&ST and by other Aerospace Inductry experts indicate this might be a fruitful area for analysis! Who is doing this analysis for the UFO community? Just some thoughts. Larry -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.PARANET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Astronomers & Ufos Date: 6 Feb 92 05:30:00 GMT Recently, I got into a discussion concerning astronomers and UFOs. Here is something interesting that I found regarding astronomers and their feelings about UFOs. Contrary to what most people might think, there are more of them who give serious attention to the phenomenon. This is from 'The Hynek UFO Report,' page 23, Footnote: -- A recent survey of professional astronomers, ("Report on a Survey of the Membership of the America Astronomical Society Concerning the UFO Problem," P.A. Sturrock. Report #681, Institute for Plasma Research, Stanford University, Stanford, CA; January 1977) showed a marked increase in their interest in the UFO phenomenon. In answer to one of the twelve questions submitted to them, asking whether the UFO problem deserved scientific study, 23 percent replied "certainly," 30 percent "probably," 27 percent "possbily," 17 percent "probably not," and only 3 percent "certainly not." 52 percent of the questionnaires were returned, comprising 1,356 members of the Society. -- Additionally, Hynek, who was an astronomer himself, and a prominent consultant to the Air Force's Project Blue Book, formulated a theorem concerning the scientific community and what he called the "Committee Complex." This excerpt is taken from the same book, 'The Hynek UFO Report,' page 24: -- A scientist will confess in private to interest in a subject which is controversial or not scientifically acceptable but generally will not stand up and be counted when "in committee." -- This theorem was supported by the same study mentioned above. In my opinion, I feel that this is a highly valid theorem, and sufficiently explains the lack of serious "main-stream" scientific interest in the subject of UFOs. This also ties out very nicely with the decision of the Robertson Panel of 1953 to use various "celebrities" to "debunk" the UFO phenomena. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.PARANET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.PARANET.ORG (Jim Greenen) Subject: 11:11 Date: 6 Feb 92 03:14:00 GMT * Replying to a message originally to Pete Porro JH> > Anything new on the PA UFO flap? I keep seeing bits and pieces, but JH> last JH> > thing someone said it was a C-130? I don't get it. How could one plane JH> > fool so many people. JH> JH> What I'd like to know is how could a C-130 be so quiet? JH> But on that note.....C-130s are used for aerial refueling JH> of helicopters....lots of strange lights, etc..... JH> JH> jbh JH> John, I thought the C-130 was a cargo plane? I don't know what the stalling speed of the C-130 is but I would have to say that the helicopet woud have to have the thottle to the floor and the C-130 almost on stalling speed. As I think about it, how do you refuel a helicopter in flight? You know, the chop-chop of the blades could chop-chop the hose. --... ...-- <<< JIM >>> -- Jim Greenen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.PARANET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.PARANET.ORG (Jim Greenen) Subject: Fact Or Fiction Date: 6 Feb 92 03:25:01 GMT * Replying to a message originally to All MC> * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" MC> * Originally from William J. Casperson MC> * Originally dated 01-31-92 12:34 MC> MC> From: st193@menudo.uh.edu (William J. Casperson) MC> Date: 31 Jan 92 04:29:27 GMT MC> Organization: University of Houston MC> Message-ID: <1992Jan31.042927.20394@menudo.uh.edu> MC> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors MC> MC> MC> Is this fact or fiction: MC> MC> Recently a man in California caught on video two F-16's MC> being swallowed by what appeared to be a UFO. The man is MC> currently selling the video (Or has sold) to television MC> stations around the world. Apparently Unsolved Mystries MC> has purchased the video -- ?? MC> MC> Also, I need to know this: MC> MC> What government agenices are currently investigating UFO MC> crashes etc. What is the agency called that keeps track of MC> all the abductions. MC> MC> Has anyone heard of the FEMA cover-up? This too would also MC> be a big help. MC> MC> BTW, I think this is a great forum for discussion, but, too MC> bad everything one says is being monitored by dozens of MC> federal agencies. Esp. on this newsgroup. MC> MC> ALSO, Scott and the Red-head, take your discussion else MC> where -- I'm getting tierd of reading the BS that is being MC> sent out. MC> Mike; I sure would like to tell you some information that was told to me but John Powell told me if I can't prove it then its not worth telling. If you want to know who is behind the black helicopters and some information on the surpose secret manned mars flight in the early 50's, then I would have to post it as fiction to satify John. Its getting very difficult to do any research anymore. I am getting to the point, like many others and will file this information away and keep it to myself. --... ...-- <<< JIM >>> -- Jim Greenen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.PARANET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.PARANET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: C-130 Date: 6 Feb 92 03:33:04 GMT > John, I thought the C-130 was a cargo plane? That's been its primary use, although there have been many others, such as the AC-130 Spectre gunship, Coast Guard SAR, water-bombing on forest fires, etc. I believe the stall speed is under 100 kts, but I'm not real certain of that. As for refueling, the tanker extends a drogue, which looks like a badminton birdie on a hose. The chopper fueling probe goes into the basket. Since the basket is streaming behind the tanker, it's below the chopper rotor blades. Next time you get a chance, take a look at one of the Jolly Greens over at Patrick AFB. Look for a long tube sticking forward from the nose. That's the refueling probe. Anyway, my point here is that a tanker and one or two choppers doing a night refueling show a *lot* of lights that if you can't see exactly what's going on, don't look like any sort of airplane. And now back to our regularly-scheduled topic....... jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.PARANET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: afglsc.span.nasa.gov!WEBB Subject: Pulsar planets Date: 6 Feb 92 15:52:40 GMT From: WEBB@afglsc.span.nasa.gov There have been a couple of misconceptions floating around regarding the pulsar planets recently reported. Last year Andrew Lyne of England reported the first evidence of a planet circling a pulsar. At an astronomy meeting last month, Lyne retracted that observation, saying that noise in the data had been misinterpreted as a signal of a planet; i.e., a periodic change in the precise timing of the pulses of the pulsar. However, at the same meeting, A. Wolszczan of Cornell reported seeing evidence for 2 planets circling a second pulsar (not the same one Lyne observed.) This report looks solid and Lyne's original obs. may still hold up. Because pulsars are neutron stars formed after supernova explosions, the planets may have formed from accretion of debris after the explosion or, less likely, may have been there before and somehow survived. Either way they would be dried cinders! I hope this advances this discussion. Dave Webb -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush Subject: Missive... Date: 6 Feb 92 17:55:55 GMT From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush) Don Allen, Did you get the letter I sent you by USMail? Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu) -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cwns4.INS.CWRU.Edu!aa440 Subject: Jason Society and Men In Black Date: 7 Feb 92 04:38:22 GMT From: aa440@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dale Wedge) I got a request from a reader on the Cleveland Free-Net UFOlogy Sig asking if there was any relationship between 'The Jason Society' and 'The Men In Black.' To be quite honest, I am not even familiar with 'The Jason Society,' although the Men In Black have been around since the early 50's. Any- ways, any info on this would be appreciated. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: YALEVM.YCC.Yale.Edu!conncoll.bitnet!gateh Subject: _Science News_ on crop circles Date: 8 Feb 92 01:04:02 GMT From: gateh%CONNCOLL.BITNET@YALEVM.YCC.Yale.Edu The latest edition of _Science News_, dated Feb. 1, 1992, has a very interesting article on crop circles, in that it approaches the subject from (what to me) is a completely new angle. Being a subscriber to the periodical, I expected the article to be primarily an update, leaning towards the 'it was hoaxers after all' frame of mind, but I was pleasantly surprised by the new information and open-minded approach. The article reports on the findings of a retired astronomer, Gerald S. Hawkins, who is 'famous for his investigations of Stonehenge as an early astronomical observatory'. He began a 'systematic study" of the geometry of the circles, and 'found ratios of small whole numbers that precisely matched the ratios defining the diatomic scale. These ratios produce the eight tones of an octave in the musical scale corresponding to the white keys on a piano.' Next he discovered four geometric theorems involving ratios of areas of circles, which 'were really special cases of a single, more general theorem... Remarkably, he could find none of these theorems in the works of Euclid, [...and] was also surprised at his failure to find the crop-circle theorems in any of the mathematics textbooks and references, ancient and modern, that he consulted... This suggests that the hoaxer or hoaxers 'had to know a tremendous lot of old- fashioned geometry', he argues... The hoaxers apparently had the requisite knowledge not only to prove a Euclidean theorem but also to conceive of an original theorem in the first place -- a far more challenging task. To show how difficult such a task can be, Hawkins often playfully refuses to divulge his fifth theorem, inviting anyone interested to come up with the theorem itself before trying to prove it.' The article ends by wondering whether Chorley and Bower had the 'mathematical sophistication to depict novel Euclidean theorems in the wheat', and offers as a solution the idea that the ghost of Euclid himself is stalking the fields of England :-). Very interesting reading, a must for anyone following the circle phenomenon. Cheers! - Gregg Gregg TeHennepe | SysAdm, Academic Computing gateh@mvax.cc.conncoll.edu | Connecticut College, New London, CT -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.PARANET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: PUB'G INFO: FEDER, Date: 5 Feb 92 19:19:47 GMT Here's another one for you. Although the titles don't seem to apply, the theory and practice do fit with psychics and paranormal endevors. "Cult Archaeology and Creationism" a collection of authors. Feder and Williams are two who contributed. Alice Kehoe (from Milwaukee hey), Laurie Godfrey, Thomas Gray, Francis Harrold, Luanne Hudson, William Stiebing Jr., and others. Most of them are anthropologists. They discuss pseudoscientific (spurious claims), and cult following of of rejected ideas which almost become religious following. I think this is very well related to UFO's, paranormal, Crop Circles and the like. -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.PARANET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.PARANET.ORG (Vladimir Godic) Subject: Breakdown Date: 9 Feb 92 05:25:00 GMT Due to a technical problem, we have lost some of the messages from Paranet when I polled last Thursday, February 6. If anybody has sent messages to Bill Chalker, Keith Basterfield (or myself) since Saturday, February 1, would you kindly send them again. This is just in case you have replied to some of our messages or have any queries. We have had a few hiccups in transmission during the past two weeks. Thank you for your cooperation. Regards from "Down Under", Vlad -- Vladimir Godic - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.PARANET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cwns4.INS.CWRU.Edu!xx044 Subject: Deja Vu all over again! Date: 8 Feb 92 16:48:07 GMT From: xx044@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (UFOlogy SIG) Geesh, I thought all of this conspiracy crap had been put to sleep! I guess as long as people are continuing to believe that the right-wing establishment in this country has continually run drugs, had President Kennedy killed either by the CIA, the driver in the front seat, the Cubans, Mob Connections from Italy, etc, etc., we will never put an end to this. Now we have massive mother ships just waiting for President Bush to give the word so that the New World Order can be established by the tri-lateral Commission, the World Bank, and a set of right-wing elitists. But, we al- so have Star Wars being put into place so that we can fight this menace from Zeta Reticulli. C'mon, get a life! Hey, and don't you think that people or beings that are capable of going inter-stellar could make synthetic hormones. It would be like us going to the moon in an effort to find lava rock. Hey, whats gonna happen when the right-wing motherships meet the left-wing motherships of Louis Farrakhan? Can you imagine the multi-cultural war in space with blacks, whites, reptilicans, angelic beings, the forces of the dark side, and whomever else you want to stick in the mix. The state of UFOlogy is sad. The only thing worse are those that seem to hold close to their hearts things which cannot be proven. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.PARANET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: OZONE AND MEIER Date: 7 Feb 92 19:49:34 GMT Leave it to me to drop a message the day before the Govt. comes out and says it's now 40% when what I had just read said maybe 3%. Ouch! To tell the truth about how available information is to anyone, many psychics are know to do research before making predictions. The killer bees are a good example. No news anywhere until Jean Dixon or someone says, I predict a new strain of killer bees will invade the US in ten years. It turns out that as strange as it sounded at first report, they were already know in South America, and know to be moving north. I read some unusual journals sometimes and see things that don't come close to making the news, because there is just too much to cover and interest levels don't include real news much. Ever read Jama? Journal of the Am. Med. Assn.? How about some of the other specific publications? This is not a criticism of you, but the point is that even though I spend hours a day reading, and sometimes just go hang out at the library, cruising the stacks for books on anything that catches my eye, I don't know very much about anything. I confess I do read more science related topics, UFO, Archaeology, and psychology. But sometimes scanning Jama is worthwhile, you wouldn't believe the stuff they are doing in research and medicine. (I take it back, yes you would and so would I) Seven books on the Bermuda Triangle in one week, dozens of sailing Mags. the next, Recipe collecting last week plus working at the museum about 6-7 hours sorting bags from the last dig, took in two more chapters of Light Years last night... Yes I do miss football! What does all this have to do with paranormal? If you put it all together, the information is out there for anyone who tries. If Meier wanted to he could dig around in the library for one day and come up with enough to amaze us all a few times. If a syndicated psychic has a staff, you can believe me they know more of what's comming in the future than just what they can predict out of the blue. Just for information my latest project is making a database of the 81 chambered cairns of Orkney, according to location, features, types, and condition. It won't be a best read file, but considering the number and the area they are located, it's interesting. How many people even know where Orkney is? How many people care about a bunch of stone graves from 2400 BC? There was supposed to be a launch of a scientific probe to study the ozone layer, which was delayed at last reports. Maybe it got up there? It raises another question... Here I go again. With all the peeking and probing done from outer space (by earthly creatures) wouldn't one expect to have some photos or data on UFO's comming out of those programs? Not a word, right? We get radar reports, strange sightings from airlines, and all sorts of ground sightings. How come the spy sats. don't see anything? If they are supposed to be able to distinguish something smaller than a six inch square, how come these football field size UFO's are not getting seen. Or are they? Just another area of mystery. -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.PARANET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.PARANET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: ASTRONOMERS & UFOS Date: 7 Feb 92 20:10:48 GMT Funny you should quote the pages I keep marked with a business card in my copy of the book? Speaking of unspoken pressures, some people may not have answered for fear of being included in the study at all. I wonder what a similar study would produce for results at this time? -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.PARANET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush Subject: (none) Date: 9 Feb 92 22:44:08 GMT From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush) Subject: Kopechne ? Hi Greg! ? ? I seem to have missed Coleman's article, due to a disk crash ? on my 'personal' computer (not the BBS, praise be to God!) ? ? Anyway, the MJ Kopechne item you quoted caught my eye. ? I attempted to send you private e-mail, Clark, but it didn't work. I have trouble sending to people through paranet. The only mention of MJ Kopechne was that which you saw. I didn't understand what you were referring to with regard to the BBS. Were you talking about the Phoenix Liberator BBS? The only copy I have of the article is a hardcopy which I will send to you if you give me your address. I don't know much about the Chappaquiddick ( <= correct spelling. We both got it incorrect!) business. The only two books in our library are 'overdue/billed.' Thanks for your responses to my earlier questions and let me know if I can be of service. You seem well informed. 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