Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 539 Thursday, March 12th 1992 (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: The Lazar Tape Mel Noel/Kirkwood Cable Radio Network Eduard "billy" Meier - Photo Evidence Eduard 'billy' Meier Black Helicopters Re: MAITREYA, SPIRITS, ANTICHRIST Re: CABEL RADIO NETWORK X-ray Bulletin 532 - followup to case report Black Helicopters Re: Cable Radio Network Cable Radio Network Mel Noel/kirkwood W. Strieber Germs in Space ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan) Subject: The Lazar Tape Date: 7 Mar 92 23:09:01 GMT > > You mentioned national cable radio. >Peggy CRN is available nationwide on your cable system and FM >stations. I spoke several days ago to Mike Corbin about it, he >is going to check and get back to me on cable systems and >possible FM stations. Will let you know when I hear from Mike. >Mike, have you checked with anyone yet? No word yet, Don, but I see there are several waiting messages so maybe it's on the stack here... Meantime, are you still on Compuserve? I posted a message EMail but it bounced back. If you are, what's your number (must've written it incorrectly in my log.) Thanks -- looking forward to the radio info. =Peggy= -- Peggy Noonan - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan) Subject: Mel Noel/Kirkwood Date: 7 Mar 92 23:12:02 GMT > >You wrote to Don Ecker that you couldn't wait to see something >on Mel Noel in the next issue of UFO Magazine. Did you know >that Mel is our Ogden Object friend Guy Kirkwood?? Yep. > Hi Linda! How nice to hear from you again after so long! Thanks for writing! (Have you received those messages I sent? Or did they vanish into the electronic void?) Re Mel Noel/Guy Kirkwood, yes, I did know that -- a very nice "little birdie" tipped me off a while back [thank you "birdie"] and that makes me wonder about the whole thing... Still no reply from the guy who was supposed to send the photos [big surprise!] Take care--great to hear from you again. Hope you're fully recovered from the sick spell! ==Peggy== -- Peggy Noonan - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan) Subject: Cable Radio Network Date: 7 Mar 92 23:33:00 GMT > PN> Does that mean that if a person does not have cable TV > PN> not available either? Sounds that way >That is exactly right. Though they might be able to get it >from their 16 foot backyard satellite dish receiver. ;-) Thanks for letting me know. Satellite dish, huh... Well, those of us who're still in the dark ages of electronics will have to wait, I guess. Appreciate the info! -- Peggy Noonan - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Eduard "billy" Meier - Photo Evidence Date: 8 Mar 92 19:09:00 GMT * Forwarded from "ParaNet General Echo" * Originally from Vladimir Godic * Originally dated 03-07-92 13:40 In 1981, the late Frank Gillespie wrote the following review of "UFO ...Contact from the Pleiades." In light of recent Paranet discussions on this very outdated subject, I will repeat Frank's article here. Before doing so, I would like to point out that Frank Gillespie was a scientist with the Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO). Being a photographic expert, Frank was, for many years, a scientific advisor to Australian UFO groups. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Part 1: "UFO...CONTACT FROM THE PLEIADES Vol.1" The presentation of this UFO contactee story is quite different from any of its predecessors. The backbone of the book is a series of twenty two flying saucer photographs, supported by a rather sketchy and disjointed text; and padded out by personal photographs, snatches of cosmonaut and other philosophy, and seven pages invoking tenuous connections with the pyramids, the parthenon, and verious other ancient structures. There are also some visually impressive computer generated images, for which the interpretations may or may not have been quoted correctly. The credit for the preparation and publishing of this book is shared by a team of nine indivduals and four companies; but all of the flying saucer photographs are attributed to Eduard "Billy" Meier, a farmer/caretaker of Inwel, Switzerland. A connected series of photographs such as this can be likened to a chain, where the failure of a single link distrupts the entire chain. Rather ironically, the very first photograph in the book is the one in which evidence of fakery can be most clearly seen, so that detectable discrepancies in later photographs only go to confirm that a superimposition technique such as front projection has undoubtedly been used. The first picture, which is reproduced again precisely half way through the book, is one of a series supposedly taken just before sunset on 29th March, 1976. It has the appearance of a scene largely in shadow, but lit from the right by a reddish sun, which also flashes brightly off the upper section of the spacecraft. However, this apparent illumination terminates abruptly along the line of the distant hilltops, along with the transition from pale blue sky to brownish hills. Close examination reveals that this appearance of sunshine has been achieved by displacing the magenta and yellow colour image laterally from the cyan and black, thus generating an orange flash on one side of the tree limbs. The effect of this technique is apparent only where the background is lacking in magenta and yellow - in this case, the sky. The question arises, was this the result of poor printing technique, or was it deliberately done, either before or after the picture reached the hands of the printers? Consider the evidence; that the only pictures in the book which have this defect to any serious extent are the ones in this particular series, that the extent of the defect is far beyond what any reputable colour reprodcer would allow, and that the effect of the misregistration is so pronounced that it could not possibly have been missed. As to who was responsible for the fakery, the buck appears to stop at the colour reproducers, because in the second printing of this picture, the colour displacement has been done in the wrong direction, and the trees appear to be sunlit from the left. The printers would have used the blocks as received, on equipment which automatically preserved the registration of the four colours. It would be tedious to go through all the individual discrepancies in the various pictures, particularly as the book pages are not numbered for reference. Suffice to say that the faults to look for come into the following categories: 1. Lighting direction discrepancies between the background and the spacecraft. 2. Overcast sky and flatly lit ground scene, with a brightly lit craft. 3. Correct exposure for the craft, when the scene is badly underexposed. 4. Craft in better focus than any part of the scene. 5. Lack of ground shadow cast by the craft. 6. Inconsistent lighting between shots supposedly taken at the same time. 7. No signs of life in any of the UFO pictures. The first five of these faults all indicate that a superimposition technique has been used, probably involving models for the spacecraft. Confirmatory evidence comes from the last saucer picture in the book, where the painted on "portholes" are fairly obvious. The most likely technique used for the superimposition is front projection, which is widely used in the United States today. With this technique, you can have your wedding day photographs taken in front of the Salt Lake Tabernacle, even though the ceremony took place in a Brooklyn registry office. The technique is virtually undetectable, except when mistakes are made, such as those listed above. The text of this book is also not immune to criticism. The claim is made, for instance, that the focussing of the camera used for all the saucer stills was jammed just short of infinity. This is just the setting which would be used to obtain maximum clarity in a landscape photograph, so it becomes a rather hollow excuse for the poor focussing evident in many of the pictures. The captions of the two micrograph pictures are nonsensical - all metals have adequate conductivity for scanning electron microscopy, but the specimen in the picture exhibits signs of poor conductivity, suggesting an improperly prepared nonmetallic object; and the machining in the other micrograph is not only very poor, but it appears to have been done by an unsuitable technique. It is repeatedly claimed that an abundance of pictures are available for publication, which makes it hard to understand why five of them have been printed twice, for no good reason. Looking at the drawings of the various craft, one would expect from their clarity and detail, that they would be accurate. This appears to be so for type 5 craft, and for type 2 other than the one in the movie sequence, but it is definitely not the case for the remaining variations. The claims made for the movie segment deserve some attention. Ask any film producer, and he will tell you that these are all standard effects with a tripod mounted camera, involving only simply stop/start and time-lapse techniques. Continuing in part 2.... -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Eduard 'billy' Meier Date: 8 Mar 92 19:09:00 GMT * Forwarded from "ParaNet General Echo" * Originally from Vladimir Godic * Originally dated 03-07-92 14:14 Part 2: The scientific investigation is one aspect of this book which worries me. Apart from acknowledging the part played by De Anza Systems Inc., the book does not name any of the persons involved; but one would expect an honourable scientist to revoke any abuse of his professional status. I can only conclude, therefore, that some, at least, of my colleagues, have allowed themselves to be so blinded by state-of-the-art technology, that they cannot see how easy it is to cheat such a system. Relying entirely on a computer for UFO photograph analysis is like staking your reputation on the computer beating all comers at chess. Anyone knowing or guessing the factors on which the computer calculations are based, can devise techniques to force incorrect analyses from the comptuer. For example, distance and size assessment are both based on edge sharpness data, which can be readily manipulated to give any desired result during a superimposition. Regarding the metal, biological and mineral specimens left by the cosmonauts, there is a technique called isotope analysis now available, which will determine with absolute certainty whether a material is of extraterrestrial origin. There are many places where it can be carried out; and some of these must be known to the American scientists allegedly involved in the investigation. Significantly, no mention is made of this technique being used. This scientific aspect is so important, that, at the risk of boring layman readers, I will deal specifically with some of the misconceptions which appear in the book. Electron microscopy always sounds impressive, but it would be hard to conceive of a greater exercise in futility than using it on colour film images. A scanning microscope would show only the topography of the emulsion surface, wheras in a transmission microscope, the dye materials of the image would be indistinguishable from the gelatin medium. Three dimensionality can be detected with reasonable certainty from an original photograph, taken under known conditions. However, UFOs have frequently been assessed as three dimensional from analysis of copied photographs, which are, by definition, photographs of photographs having only two effective dimensions. Alternatively, skillful artists routinely transfer attributes of three dimensionality to canvas, sufficient to fool any computer analysis. In colour film, the image is composed of three dyes, each of which is visible to the eye. There is no other material present with which any invisible image could be formed; and to suggest that some mysterious radiation produced such an image is surely ridiculous. Similarly, it is foolhardy to suggest that any wire or thread supporting a model must show up with computer enhancement. A 300mm diameter foam plastic model, for instance, could easily be supported by a single fibre from a nylon stocking, which, at 2 metres from the camera, would be well beyond the resolving power of its optical system. A general characteristic of film grains is that they overlap - it is only thus that a true black image can be built up. This is especially true of colour film, where each of the tree emulsions has to be capable of developing as a solid colour. Another characteristic of film grains is that once they are developed, there is no way to tell how or when they were exposed; hence film grain analysis gives no information about the use of multiple exposures, or of most darkroom techniques. In conclusion computer techniques have their place, but they cannot substitute entirely for careful visual examination of any UFO photograph. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The above article which appeared in the `UFO Research Australia Newsletter," Vol.2 No.1, Jan-Feb 1981, is one of many written at the time. Other individuals and organisations wrote expose as well, so the above is not an isolated critique. I reproduce Frank Gillespie's article here in an attempt to show those who have only been subjected to pro Billy Meier arguments that scientific evaluations revealed a very different story. I think it a shame that time is wasted on cut and dried hoaxes when there is so much that is presently unexplained and far more deserving of our time and attention. In closing, I would like to state that the above ends my participation in the Billy Meier farce. I will not enter into any further discussions, I value my time far too much to debate proven hoaxes. -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Zuk@f0.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Zuk) Subject: Black Helicopters Date: 7 Mar 92 03:54:17 GMT About every 6 to 8 weeks, I see what looks like a black helicopter either surveying the area or looking for something. I've read that these helicopters have shown up after UFO events but I'm not aware of any UFO activity. I travel on my job in an area approximately 600 square miles and almost like clockwork every 6 to 8 weeks, I see another black 'copter. The last one was just the other day and this was an unusual event. I usually work in a rural area and I've assumed these 'copters are looking for marajuana growing in either the National Park or the State-owned game lands (?). But yesterday, I was in town when I hear a low rumbling sound which I knew was the black helicopter. I went outside and about 500 feet up Main street is a black 'copter flying in circles at about 100 feet in altitude which I feel is definately UNsafe. But I was able to get a very good look at it. It WAS flat-black, and I saw no numbers or other I.D. at all except for what looked like some sort of insignia on the door. But it was small and the helicopter was moving continously so I cannot be sure. I thought all helicopters required ID numbers and I feel that operating at a low altitude in a congested area is not only grossly stupid but illegal. Does anyone know who these copters "belong" to; what they are doing; and why do I see them so often? Am I paranoid and if not, should I be? -- John Zuk - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Zuk@f0.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: MAITREYA, SPIRITS, ANTICHRIST Date: 4 Mar 92 18:20:01 GMT I have to agree with your anaylsis of the religion based theories, relating to UFO's. However I am a Christian believer. I don't intend to say that religion has some secret connection to UFO's, I keep the two seperate. My religious beliefs are related to everything I do and feel in my whole life, but I'm not selling anything to anyone else, nor do I care to. I'm not selling UFO lit. to the JW's either. Never the two shall meet. I'm not bringing up the next point for argument, just interest, and then I'll return to our regularly active topics. Your definition of Knowledge included the last line, "the sum of universal knowledge." Many religious thinkers will agree that this describes the Bible itself. I had an SJ friend who lectured that the Bible was... "The wisdom of the tribe." which turns out to be the knowledge accumulated over time and writen down to guide us. OK so I don't expect to be swallowed by a big fish, and dropped off on the shore because I have a mission. And you mean the Earth isn't the center of the solar system. 8*) Science: Systematic aqusition of knowledge. Faith: Belief, loyalty. I've got both and know that I put my faith in science. ET's don't create any conflict in my mind vs the writings and my religious beliefs. Balance might be the answer? -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: CABEL RADIO NETWORK Date: 4 Mar 92 18:34:33 GMT You mentioned that if we didn't have access you had some more information. I don't have cable, I have the great list that Paul posted, and I still can't get the show without driving an hour south into IL. Any ideas for Milwaukee? Hope the show takes off and continues to explore the questions we have all been reading and writing about for years. Vol. 7, No. 2 of UFO arrived here this AM. Just looked at the index and can't wait to start reading it all. -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: X-ray Date: 9 Mar 92 04:20:05 GMT > It's got to be them danged CRT emissions again John... too many > sleepless hours at the keyboard! Gotta be. ;-) > Unfortunately, you are probably right. These cases seem to always > terminate in a dead-end. In an interesting coincidence, David Jacobs mentioned in _Secret Life_ that some abductees had said they'd had abdominal implants. Interesting...... > Take care... and don't forget those eye drops tonight... I don't suppose you own stock in Visine..... ;-) jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Bulletin 532 - followup to case report Date: 9 Mar 92 04:28:06 GMT > In Newsletter 532, Mike Corbin relayed a message by Ian Taylor > from Alt.Alien.Visitors concerning a strange aircraft Ian saw We have two similar blimps here in central Florida; they look *very* much saucer shaped in the early evening when the main body of the blimp is internally-illuminated, and they're seen at a distance against the evening sky. >From a few miles away, the running lights aren't visible; all you see is a glowing saucer shape. Not only that, they fly together frequently, so you see *two* saucers off in the distance. When they first appeared there were quite a few ufo reports, but the locals are now familiar with them. I've noticed that fairly often a tourist waits until he gets home to report his "ufo sighting;" often to his hometown newspaper. The local blimps are internally-illuminated, white, but the tail isn't illuminated, and of course an ad on the side can appear to be windows or a port at a distance. They're operated by Virgin Airways, which I think is a British-owned company. jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Black Helicopters Date: 9 Mar 92 04:32:07 GMT > I thought all helicopters required ID numbers and I feel that operating > at a low altitude in a congested area is not only grossly stupid but > illegal. Many military and law-enforcement helicopters are painted a dark, dull grey that appears black against the sky, and their numbers, unit markings etc. are usually black stencil-outlines. I've seen an Orange County Sheriff's Office (identified) "black helicopter" operating at around 500 feet over a metro area searching for a crime suspect. Found the guy, too. jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan) Subject: Re: Cable Radio Network Date: 9 Mar 92 17:13:03 GMT > PN> Thanks, Don. When you say "on your cable system," that's referring > PN> to cable TV? (Sorry if that's an incredibly dumb question, but when >FM Radio is carried on many cable systems...the same as TV signals. >Just hook the wire up (after it is split in two) to the FM receiver and >you might here all the local stations plus imported signals. But if I don't have cable, then there's no way to get it, right? (Yes, that's right -- I'm one of the last two dozen people in the US who have not yet gotten cable.) -- Peggy Noonan - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan) Subject: Cable Radio Network Date: 9 Mar 92 17:21:04 GMT >I work for Scientific-Atlanta, the company which supplies the >DMX tuners. It is CD quality digital sound, 30 channels worth >plus simulcast capability (for MTV, HBO, etc). No commercials, >no talking. Just music. We also have a special remote (called >the DJ remote) which will display title, track and artist of >whatever you're currently listening to. Pretty neat, actually. Anson, I saw your reply on this thread by reading replies to the original message I'd received, so I hope you won't mind my butting in here...I'm very interested to know more about this DMX system. Is there a brochure available which would tell me the types of music selections available and costs in the Denver metro area? If so, let me know where to send for it. Thank you. ==Peggy== -- Peggy Noonan - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan) Subject: Mel Noel/kirkwood Date: 9 Mar 92 17:30:05 GMT >Hi Peggy, > >Not surprised about the fact that no one is following through... > >My husband and I found your message on Compuserve and answered it. >We thought we weere having a ball answering you! To bad We lost YOU! Hi Linda, Maybe the CIS message is there waiting for me...I just checked my notes and see I haven't called back since 2/28 so I'd better do that. Sorry for the delay! See you later -- ps, still no word from the guy! Ogden turns out to be VERY iffy. The guy says that his friend, the one who actually went to the site, buys the government line on what it's all about and has absolutely no further interest in the story at all. Evidently the friend and the original guy have had a falling out, so the only thing that's going to be available is 2nd hand stuff. Drat. ==Peggy== (you know it's been a long day when you can't even type your own name without 3 corrections!!! Back to the snowshovels!) -- Peggy Noonan - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z91.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: W. Strieber Date: 10 Mar 92 05:05:00 GMT Hi everyone, This coming Wed. night on L:arry King, our boy Whitley Strieber will be a guest. Don't know what the topic is, sorry. Linda -- Linda Bird - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z91.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z91.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: Germs in Space Date: 10 Mar 92 05:10:00 GMT Hi Brent, Thought I'd share this with you on Mars; it's from the March 2 PHOENIX GAZETTE. Going boldly where no one has gone before is one thing; being interplanetary Typhoid Marys is another. University of Wisconsin researchers fear germs that hitchhike on spacecrafts could contaminate Mars. There nost likely was life on Mars at one time--it's possible life actually evolved first on Mars--says Kenneth Nealson, chairman of a National Academy of Sciences task force on planetary protection. Terrestrail microbes could disrupt efforts to study Martian life, Nealson says. 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